Don't blame Democrats. This has been Michigan policy under Republican and Democrat administrations. Plus, blaming Whitmer for the policies of a predominantly Republican Michigan Congress in the past is why we have problems with division. Don't just blame the current administration and it's makeup. Our state has been here a lot longer than one year.
Lived in Darmstadt Germany, years ago, and they have a high temperature garbage incinerator to generate steam and electricity. It works so good they import trash to burn. The landfill is way outside of the city.
@@matthewholmes5285 it has been running now for about 30 years with zero emissions, it is based off an super high temp to get it started, and a massive filter system. No smoke and no smells. Lived in the area 16 years.
@@matthewholmes5285yeah watch the documentary literally 0% waste and emissions. The only thing the plant exhausts is 0xygen (O2) and water. Literally the most efficient trash system ever created. Even the trucks run off all the CO2 and hydrogen. Most countries don't allow it in cause it would destroy privatized garbage contracts 😂😂😂 so most lobbyists have resisted and burned through a lot of money doin it.
American politicians from both Repub and Dem party's have been engaged in graft and personal bribes for decades. Currently it's mostly the Dems being exposed for insider trading. Former Michigan governor Cramhole, who is now the Fed Energy Sec., is being grilled under oath for stock insider trading for Green Energy companies that she oversaw contracts for, but sold her stocks when the negative optics of insider trading by politicians became more evident. Green Energy is more accurately...GREED SCAMERGY.
Exactly, separating garbage from recycling is just a make work project to keep the people busy wasting their time. It all gets reunited at the landfill to go who knows where, for who knows what 🤔.
@@jimbrady1372 Or people who move into desolate areas where prisons are already built, and then complain about the activities inside the prison boundaries....
not only next to the airport, - but probably not in a 10 miles radius, and some directions probably up to 20 miles, - stay away from approach course for aircrafts. if you gonna check George Bush airport, - planes are coming west-east, south north in most of the cases. some days very rare from north to south (getting some of woodlands)
WTH do you expect when the state encourages trash from surrounding states & Canada? Toronto's trash comes there, for God's sake!! Hugh trash hauler trucks pounding the roads in an endless stream every day.
I lived near a landfill when I was younger. We knew it was there, but nobody really even noticed it until one day it was surrounded by fire trucks, sheriff's department, EPA, and of course news crews. They place hadn't been properly vented, and they had us convinced the whole place was going to explode. That was all that happened, but they sure made a big deal out of it. Here these poor people are suffering, but struggling to get any help with real issues.
There's an old quarry in my neighborhood that closed and was filled in with garbage in the 50s, and the land was used for a park and houses. In the last few years some of the houses had to be demolished after residents had issues with dangerous explosive gases seeping into their basements, and the park's parking lot closed after it settled into a shallow sinkhole. It seems like this kind of thing was pretty common over the last century and we still don't have a great solution of what to do with trash.
Wait. So people pay to have there trashed picked up. Then its used for the gas it produces and then is sold as electricity that people pay for. So everyone makes money from it but the residents.
Lol do The Privileged want their poop back? It wasn't important or considered valuable to the average resident. But it upsets you that residents PAY for a "no touch poop" experience & end up NOT profiting? The way I see it, it makes sense for the companies to profit because they are the ones who also have the vision, gumption, forward-motion, research, processes, specialized equipment, land, ect to process it.
Politicians built a landfill near me..well thirty miles away..zero cancer cases within a few miles...within five years more than a hundred case of variouse types of cancer...end result was a mass lawsuit...closed down a few months later...bad news for the ones that had been around it.....
Trash importation is encouraged. Canada yes. Michigan has lower rates for dumping than Canada or surrounding American states. Trash is brought from Toronto ( pop. Of what millions?).
So the problem started when they added septic tank waste to the garbage. Of course that's gonna smell! This wasn't an experiment gone wrong. I'd say it worked exactly as expected.
Landfill gas power generation is supposed to eliminate odors. That is why governments usually subsidize those projects. This project is a failed experiment.
You can do it safely if you add cooling towers for capturing salts. If you don't close the whole thing that way, you get toxic fumes. It's a technical problem that could be solved. Because many, many other places burn worse stuff - tires, for example - and they capture it all in their process. Maybe I'm missing something. It just looks like half-assery.
People that live around landfills need to understand this is a product of our environment what we do. I live in an area where they have done this for the last 20 years and it's not an issue.
Just like no one considered the long-term effects of using raw garbage landfills in the first place. All manner of proof exists that ash monofills, once capped, can support the construction of substantial buildings.
Methane itself has no odor; the filtration was done to separate the hydrogen from hydrogen sulfide, allowing the hydrogen to pass thru while converting the iron to iron sulfate (?)
@@tomgiorgini9154 Well when you fart. It's the H2S you smell. Methane, propane and butane do not smell until the odorizer is added. Very dangerous in a refinery fun part of doing a startup after a turn around. You feel it. you don't smell it. I did it once. Never did it again, because they did not have explosive gas meters for everyone.
after washing containers /bottles/ cans and filling up my recycle can, saw the garbage truck dump it in the garbage truck many times, not wasting my expensive water on this scam after seeing that
You don't need a bioactive landfill to generate methane to burn to produce electricity. Many of WM landfills extract methane to use for electricity generation on site. They needed a place to dump the sewage, so saying its benefit is quicker decomposition isn't quite accurate as plain water will speed up the decomposition of the garbage just the same.
doubt that, considering the cancer clusters in chemical alley . the reservation there, there was more of one gender being born due to the toxins in the environment that the companies are spewing. everything looks rusty bc of the chemicals.
Don't they do this all over w/o issue? Some of my local garbage trucks are run off that gas.. we appear to have our landfill tarped to trap the gasses is the only thing I noticed here.
It took our group of protestors several decades to close down the Detroit incinerator you could smell for many miles and was proven to affect life expectancies by 50%.. Not many people helped nor the news, we showed up at Detroit city council meetings where they were "discussing" our concerns while Martha slept in her chair and several others blew off the issue a few of those people eventually went to jail for various corruption and abuse.. If you live within a few miles of ANY landfill it will stink if the wind is blowing your way.. This sounds like a worthy experiment that will pay off more over time but again weepy eyed and selfish people complain and get it stopped.. Do they recycle??? There is a lot of bs in this state that stinks worse
done correctly, the landfill gas generators work flawlessly. in sacramento, Ca., the Kiefer landfill uses the technology to power several huge generators. they're required to control the gas anyway, so why not just collect it and at least try and recoup it?
I think there problem lies with spraying the wastewater onto it to hasten the rotting, they cover all the landfills with clay, stopping water infiltration, which is needed to rot the garbage, land fills all over collect methane to convert to electric they are trying to hasten the process and are coming into problems
who was there first? if the bar was there first, they have a legit reason to tell them to stop. if the dump was, the dump has the reason to tell them no. Dont live next to a dump/commercial area and complain that there is noise and smells.
Burning trash for fuel is not a new technology. Neither is adding acidic compounds to compost to speed decomposition. My 80 yr old neighbor did the same thing by pouring cola soda on her mulch pile.
Last time I was @ the pink elephant (off Main st / Henry, ya?) it was cigs in the house (maybe 2019 er '20r prepando zone) & idk but outside has to be better than in - no disrespect to a locals haunt love the spot but... c'mon..
Don’t worry citizen. You live in the greatest country in the world. All you have left to think about is who is allowed in the bathroom. Return to your processed food, all is well.
Such an awful thing, to be importing trash for profit is flabbergasting . There need be better solutions: I compost, for one. And recycle. Municipalities should aid/collect, etc. Anyways, shame on St Clair Cty for capitalizing at the expense of the community and environment!!
Another "great idea" that if you object to you, you'll be called anti-evironment, a boomer, or NIMBY by some idiot who only has to hear "it helps the environment!" to be all in.
Sounds like it is a gas recovery problem. Not a system design flaw. Increase the recovery system to a level necessary. That will increase the amount of electricity that can be made as well. Was the very first car ever designed perfect? Allow the engineers to make adjustments and move forward.
"Nobody designs something to pollute the community..." Right, but thanks to Capitalism's "Market Externality", you have zero responsibility to make sure it doesn't. A system is what it does, not what we wish it could do.
People kinda are too entitled and too hard to please. Like if the trash just piled up theyd be complaining about the smells or something akin to that so they try to do something and the people complain about that too. Something tells me people are going to complain about literally everything
