This Formosa 51 SANK + LOST VIDEO of Mikelson 50 Pilothouse Sailboat PRE BOTTOM PAINT (Ep. 37)

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Two episodes back, we explored a 1987 Mikelson 50 sailboat. Known for their luxurious teak woodwork, these Taiwanese boats have a rich history in the sailing world, and are loved by many. Only 18 were built in Taiwan for Mikelson in San Diego, and we were lucky enough to find out sitting in our back yard.
Last week, we explained a little bit about ourselves and talked about the boat in more detail.You told us to hold out, to not buy the boat, because it was too far gone and we could do better. We didn't listen and we put in an offer on the boat anyway. We offered $30k, and it was turned down.
This week, we've seen the final days of a Formosa 51, one of just over 100 that were built. After that, we share lost video from July, from one of the first times we saw the Mikelson, before the new bottom paint was put on.
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@fxpthl 10 месяцев назад

So sad about that boat sinking! My heart goes out to its owner! Really enjoying your postings and hoping you find your next one soon!😊

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Thank you so much!! Please subscribe!

@lifeinnohurry2425 10 месяцев назад

I enjoy watching your adventures while you’re trying to find the perfect sailboat for yourself. I live in Ocean Springs MS, and I’m working on setting myself up for a live aboard sailboat. I believe sailboat only for me. I’m setting a goal to be on a sailboat in the next year. Fair winds Chuck

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

Nice. It is all we talk about and argue about.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Nice!! Congrats, Chuck! Let us know how it goes!

@kenwilkes44 10 месяцев назад

Love Ocean Springs

@philliphogg2329 10 месяцев назад

Glad to see you said no,it is a major costing heaps, keep looking guys, you'll find it.❤ 😊🌏👍

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Thank you!!! Subscribe and stick around!

@Regencyexpress1769 10 месяцев назад

Great video , I moved my boat from the shipyard to my driveway.. best decision yet.

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

It isn't a horrible idea if you have the room.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

How did you get it moved??? And how big was the boat?

@Regencyexpress1769 10 месяцев назад

It’s an oday 32 and I bought a used loadmaster trailer , cut it down to size and rented a half ton from enterprise . I had to trailer because I didn’t trust kids on the drive. If you have a private backyard your best off doing what majic carpet did . A 50 footer is too big to trailer

@Regencyexpress1769 10 месяцев назад

You can get jack stands for nothing but a cradle is safer

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

@@Regencyexpress1769 OH! A 32. Dang. Yeah. That won’t work with a 50. Lol

@88TRUNKBACK 10 месяцев назад

Man could you imagine how fine these Formosa boats looked in 1972 coming to market for the first time

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

OH my gosh I know it. And that's kinda the sensation being on that Formosa still in the original condition like that. It was so easy to overlook all the everything and just see it for her true beauty.

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

YES!!!. I have seen some restored and they are amazing. Real class.

@shades1959 10 месяцев назад

Great episode. Beautiful camera work and editing job. Love the drone footage. Agree that was a beautiful boat, but understand the head room issues. You guys are doing a great job. Thank you for sharing your adventures and experiences. Nice to have some work to do, to make it your own. But a complete refit of 1-2 years is a bit rough, expensive and could be a nightmare chasing one issue after another.

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

I don't mind the time. That is fine. People work their whole lives. Whats a couple years? Thanks for watching!!!

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

And THANK YOU. Siren works her tail off to make these look "Professional" I hear that word a lot.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Thank you! I was TICKED OFF that we had to use the iPhone to film us talking late on a Saturday night, hours before the video is supposed to come out. It's been a busy few days and we got pushed for time, lost the light, didn't have the camera... it is what it is. It irks me, though. Thanks for watching! And yeah, personally, I don't want a two year project. That is why I like the Mikelson. I think in 6 months we could have that boat floating and sailing, and then next winter we could dig deeper and get into that rot and replace sails and rigging, etc. That stuff is bad, but it isn't urgent. Or at least not so much the boat can't be in the water or go sailing. We just have to try to keep it from getting too much worse until we an get it done.

@runepettersson9721 10 месяцев назад

Sad to see all the neglected and poorly maintained boats. Many will never be renovated. They will only decay even more. Should be able to find a boat before the decay begins. Of course, then the price is different... In many harbors and marinas around the world there are sailboats left by their owners. They either died, or no longer in older days can sail the seas anymore. There, they often want to get rid of the boat for nothing. But the same thing there, the decay can be great.

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

We have plans to go up North shortly. I hope you stay tuned. We know this one is a project but, it is here. If we buy a boat in another state we have to get it here. The boat will have to be in a lot better shape.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Yeah, it is sad to see the pretty ones get into their worst years. I guess it happens to them all, eventually.

@runepettersson9721 10 месяцев назад

@@haltarpley9237 You are absolutely right. If you are going to put time and work into a boat. Then it must be close to where you live.

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

Yes it does. @@runepettersson9721

@geofffleming12 2 месяца назад

The loss of the Formosa - what an ignoble end to a once beautiful boat. The Mickelson is more work than its worth. Great content! Nice to vicariously bum around some awful nicely designed boats with you guys. Love your taste. Find a Cabo Rico pilothouse, willya?

@TheSirensLog 2 месяца назад

Yeah! I love to CR’s. If I find one, we will see!

@LibertyTrawler 10 месяцев назад

That one was rough. Makes my water damage on my DeFever 43 seem so minor.

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

That poor boat. Our friend that owned it at one time is going to die inside when he sees it. It is a shame how far a boat can fall in a few short years.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Hahah, Everyone will be a little more appreciative for what they have after seeing this one. She is such a beautiful boat, though. She just needed a lot of work. Makes that Mikelson look like a piece of cake too... and a lot more expensive. hahah

@kurthoelter3495 10 месяцев назад

the CTs and the formosas were nicely put together vessels. worked on many, especially those that were built after the typhoons took the roofs off the shipyard buildings. had to relay many decks because the thiacol dried, on those built in the sun, before the deck was laid and never bedded properly. after a point youre screwing into mush. deckhouse to deck joints and fittings all a big deal. please tread carefully. you seem like nice guys, id hate to follow you down an expensive and moldy rabbit hole for the next several years.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Thank you! Yeah, this deck is pretty solid, fortunately, but we need to get into areas where there are fittings. I suspect this deck had a teak deck and it was re-done. Plus it’s a 1987, so there are some positives.

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

But you would follow us. LOL Thanks for watching. Hope you enjoyed the video.

@pirateatfourty 10 месяцев назад

well looking good. i just pickedup a 72 ft choylee motor sailer in greece was also abandoned. but not as bad as yours i had to pay off the loan and vat fees and a few other fees in total it was around 300 grand. getting ready to bring it back in a few weeks as soon as it is ready. northern route so i am here in crete getting it ready my dogs and me are gonna hit the high seas. then once we get it to maine it comes out of the water for a total refit i had no rot and the rigging and sails are in good shape to make the voyage then it gets all new rigging and in mast electric sailsit all works now but? it is old i am rigging it for single handed off a computer

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Well that sounds nice!!! Keep us in the loop on how it all goes!

@OldManGibb 10 месяцев назад

Thank you all for a great and very informative video. As someone that has only been on the water in the Bearing sea working a gold dredge. I am very grateful for all the wisdom you share and then give the reason why. Have a blessed week.

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for watching and the kind words. I hope you subscribed. We have more to come.

@OldManGibb 10 месяцев назад

@@haltarpley9237 Most deff did. lol Looking forward to more.

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

BTW a gold dredge in the Bearing Sea? I want to watch your channel. @@OldManGibb

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Ok... he literally just typed what I verbally said OUT LOUD when I read the comment. Stealing my words outta my mouth. @@haltarpley9237

@OldManGibb 10 месяцев назад

@@haltarpley9237 lolol, I had to stop mining back in the early 2000's, My channel is a gaming channel. I'm taking a break while I get some health issues worked out. My stuff is not near as interesting as yours. :)

@miketee2444 10 месяцев назад

For someone looking to save the Formosa, the sinking may be a blessing. Realistically everything it would effect needed replacing anyway. Saving 20 odd grand on a hundred plus grand project isn't a bad start. Her looks alone justify saving.

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

We ruled her out before she sank. I hate it sank, fewer and fewer of them every year.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

She's a pretty one, but we need something just a little less of a project. The Mikelson is looking sweeter.

@buggsy5 10 месяцев назад

But I expect the bank is going to add every penny spent on repairs to the $100K+ asking price - plus a bit for profit. Banks never do anything unless there is a profit in it.@@TheSirensLog

@TheMikesylv 10 месяцев назад

It still amazes me how a expensive boat can get to such a state of disrepair. Someone chucked away a bunch of money

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

It happens to all boats eventually.

@pirateatfourty 10 месяцев назад

copper will help prevent barnacles and other marine growth i also use a clear coat with pepper cyane pepper you can also add it to regular bottom paint. but it will suffocate the fish under the boat on the old sailing ships of 500 years ago they were all copper bottoms.lots of old tricks they used many years ago

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

I've done the cayenne pepper trick. Makes it hell when you have to sand it. My eyes burned for days.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

True but then dissimilar metals.

@formosa41 10 месяцев назад

As you said, sad to see another Formosa lost... At this point it would probably just need stripped to a bare hull and start over. In retrospect, I probably should have done the same. Rebuilding bit by bit is a slow and painful process. I'm getting there on my 41, made lots of progress this year...but still so far to go! Good luck in your search!

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Where Is your 41? We looked at a 41 last year that was super cheap. Needed a ton of work. Original deck and all. But it was cheap enough we could have just made it “good enough” for a while and enjoyed it while we kept looking. It was floating! Hahaha

@formosa41 10 месяцев назад

@@TheSirensLog I'm over here on the left coast, near Portland. I've re-cored the deck, rebuilt the whole cabin top, some bulkhead replacement, mizzen mast step...etc. Still on the to do list is fiberglass the cabin top, all new wiring...the list never ends! 😖

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Wooo Yep that’s a lot of work. Much the same we’d be doing in this Mikelson if we got it. We’re most nervous about the cabin too. I know we can do it, we just aren’t sure the absolute best way to go about it. We’ve heard some great advice from friends and people who do know, it’s just that every recommendation is different. lol anyway we don’t even have that boat yet. 😂 Very fricken cool that you’ve restored that boat there though. It takes people willing, who care and love these boats to take on that kind of job- for the boat. Very special. Thank you!

@mikeanderson1330 10 месяцев назад

Didn't see it in person. You guys have made the right decision. She needed too much. Go luck as the hunt continues.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

thank you!! subscribe at stay tuned!

@evinwhiteson4902 10 месяцев назад

For the love of boats. That 51 needed everything. Makes the mikelson look supper organized and ready to go by comparison.

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

Yes it does. Thanks for watching.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Yes it does. I know we will get a million comments about how bad this one was, which might actually get people to see how do-able the Mikelson is! Hahaha But you’re right. That boat needed WAY more than the Mikelson. But seeing it there, all original, wood spars and deck still on her, really made my heart smile. She’s a beauty. I just wish someone would go rescue her at this point. If for nothing else than getting her finer bits off and leaving them to other boats. Thanks for watching, Evin!

@evinwhiteson4902 10 месяцев назад

@@TheSirensLog For sure at 5,000 the salvage of boat parts alone is worth that easy. But how do you dispose of that boat then.legally. ? Probobly cost 100,000.00.

@boyddubard4197 10 месяцев назад

Our boat yard in Spain was paid to cut up and haul off to the landfill a CT51 in better shape than that Formosa. We did not allow Chinese boats into the yard without payment in advance. I’ve been retired for 20 years, when I left, Shepherd’s Marina, Gibraltar was the last resting place for many Chinese boats. Gib has gone through a lot of redevelopment since. I have been told that most of the derelicts were towed out into the Med and sunk. BTW we were paid more than 5K to dispose of the CT in 1992.

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

Unfortunately that is what happens to all boats eventually.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

That sounds horrific, but a sad reality. ...and not to correct you, but we have no interest in the Chinese boats. And I've looked at some! The Chinese Junk's aren't what we're looking for. I DO want a Taiwanese boat, which I think it what you mean. If they told me no Chinese boats were allowed, I'd smile and say OK! Cause we're in a Taiwanese boat. hahahaha Thanks for the comment!

@deanc24 10 месяцев назад

New subscriber. Enjoying the content. Been a car guy all my life and always maintain my cars myself. Would love to hop over to the marine side, and work on a boat. Been a dream to have a boat for many years. Living in FLA makes the desire even stronger. Will continue to watch and learn from your videos and analysis of the projects you come across.

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

Welcome aboard. Thanks for watching. We should have plenty of content working on whatever boat we end up with.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for being here!!! Oh, we have car stuff coming up too. I have two VW busses that are getting work done and we will be doing a lot of work on them too. Stay tuned!

@gaireywoolum5643 10 месяцев назад

Aloha guys great video. That's my brother sad day

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

He is a great guy. I hate it happened to him. Man seemed knowledgeable enough to make her seaworthy again. I know your brother and I have crossed paths in the past. I really hate it for him.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Awhhh He told us about you. Gave you a shout out there too. Yeah, when we filmed and looked at the boat, we had no idea we'd be filming its final days. Feels devastating, even for me and I'm not even there. I hate it so much. I hope he's doing ok and the boat is still floating! I hope he at least has a manual bilge pump or maybe a spare he can wire up and get going if he can keep those batteries charged. We will be down that way late this month. Maybe Hal can help him if he's afloat and needs a hand. I'm sure our viewers would probably care to see an update on the boat too.

@gaireywoolum5643 10 месяцев назад

@@TheSirensLog Aloha guys mahalos for your help Capt Dave has abandoned the boat looking for a fresh start heart broken he needs help like a go fund me to get him back on the water again on a different boat to get to blue water his long life dream I m just not internet savy once again mahalos to the boatlife people

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

@@gaireywoolum5643 That’s a dangerous thing. In my early 20’s we lived on my ex’s boat, and I was off working on a yacht and my ex and cat were on the boat when the anchor dragged, ran soft aground, but hard, and the boat sank. We were young and broke and the boat wasn’t in my name so it wasn’t my decision, but he abandoned that boat. He was smart enough to scratch the VIN. I hope your brother was too. I don’t advocate for that, necessarily, but that can and likely will come back to haunt him, unfortunately. I hope it works out for him! I also kinda hope that if it’s just going to sink that someone goes and strips it. That’s always painful to watch- people acting as vultures, but when the boat is going to sink, it’s the best thing you can do.

@rdembow 10 месяцев назад

The mickelson has major blisters and the yard covered it up. Take it home and redo the hull. Blisters have to dry out and get patched correctly. I did it to my boat. Fix any deck leaks and paint the deck.

@buggsy5 10 месяцев назад

Yep, the hull below the water line is pretty rough - and that is the part that needs to be smoothest.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

The survey stated that the blisters were solvent based and non osmotic.

@rdembow 10 месяцев назад

@@TheSirensLog I would use a moisture meter and check the hull for the readings and take a plastic mallet for soundings.

@PcTrade001 10 месяцев назад

I truly believe that a boat project should be considered in a worst-case scenario rather than a dream...if the project goes well out of the worst-case scenario...you have achieved your dream!

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

true. We want to be careful with whatever we choose. We know we'll have a project boat, but we don't want something so bad that we spend years on the hard. The Mikelson would allow us to get moving quicker, and still do work as we go.

@DIYNauticalDream 10 месяцев назад

We kindly disagree with that. We purposely we're looking for and bought our project sailboat. It was the only way we could afford a boat that size. I wouldn't advise it for everyone. It's not the easy way to go, but it is fun and a part of the overall journey to the destination.

@philippadowney549 10 месяцев назад

All boats are projects. Be careful with even a nice boat in comission, horrors lurk beneath the pristine paint.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

@@DIYNauticalDream I agree. A typical boat of this design and size is generally over $100k and that is with issues, you can be sure. Even at $135-150k, there will be things to do. I can’t fork that over all at once, but I can get into a project boat and get started, making money at the same time to complete the boat over time. For us, it’s just what we have to do to have the boat we want. I think a lot of people feel that way. When making the offer on this, none of the systems were tested and we had to make an offer “assuming” no systems worked. However, the bank is confident enough in getting those things going that they will push to get the boat in the water and prove those systems are working. We will likely offer more, if they do. I’m not giving them $130k, because it needs quite a bit, but I would probably give them $70k if systems check out- I just assume they won’t.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

@@philippadowney549 Yep. That’s what I keep saying. Even when these boats are listed at $125k, they come with projects!

@pirateatfourty 10 месяцев назад

i am going old school on the bottom instead of paint i using copper sheathing. epoxied to the hull. like sailing ships of old

@woody4269 10 месяцев назад

Gotta ask pirate, If u don't mind. Y copper?

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

That sounds awesome.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Yeaaaah, but then you’ve gotta be careful about having dissimilar metals. Easy to have electrolysis issues (which the boat already has) when you use copper if you have a bunch of stainless down there with it. It can be done, just have to plan for it, and you have to be careful mixing paints over it in the future……. Goodness I hope that’s not what’s already wrong with the boat. @haltarpley9237 think it already has a layer of copper in all that mess?!

@woody4269 10 месяцев назад

@TheSirensLog u and hal bounce off each other exceptionally well. Please forget my very very first ignorant assed comment. And your subs doubled again. Frikkin brilliant! 🍻☕️

@buggsy5 10 месяцев назад

From the looks of that prop, there has been electrolysis problems for a long time already. If I recall correctly, bottom fouling prevention paint used to contain copper. @@TheSirensLog

@lisalisalisa7721 10 месяцев назад

Such a cool boat. Looks like a pirate boat from Pirates of the Caribbean. I would be overwhelmed, where the hell do you start first?

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Well, on that Formosa…. I’d probably have started with thru-hulls- a most important thing. But it sank. Because of thruhulls. Next after that is batteries. Gotta have power to batteries to power bilge pumps. Under water and the bilges are always where you start. Lol

@buggsy5 10 месяцев назад

If the through-hulls were iffy, I would have changed them, then obtained properly fitting plugs that could be hammered in - and wired them near the proper fitting so they couldn't get misplaced. I have chartered sailboats that did not have plugs - so always carried a generic set in my kit. @@TheSirensLog

@ctown6971 10 месяцев назад

5:35 that sucks the condition she is in an work needed. I know this is the type of boat you want but it's got to be the right one.

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

I agree. She wasn't the right one. It was definitely worth the time to see her.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Yeah be sure to watch to the end. Sad ending for this one.

@pirateatfourty 10 месяцев назад

put pepper in your bottom paint. the epa said it killed to many fish, but people in the islands have used it for many many years. as far as the copper sheathing, it is not near any dissimilar metals. you still have some fiberglass showing but it is thin enough to cause no problems. if it was a steel and aluminum boat then yes it would be a major problem, whole boat would fall apart sink and sharks would get you or a kraken or someother seamonster lol

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Lol. Yeah, you did see that the Mikelson got a bottom job right??

@Anashadk 10 месяцев назад

Looks like osmose on the sides, a lot of work but doable, if you wish to use your time on that, personally I think I would pass and try and buy a better boat . The propeller is ripe for changeing but why is it so affected, and has the problem also spread to somewhere else?

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

I think there is a bare wire in the bilge that is causing the electrolysis. We are still looking. We are trying to film our boat shopping adventures as much as we can. You'll see a bunch of bad boats and some good boats. You have to go look to see. The owner of this Formosa had hit a stretch of bad luck and Siren and I knew him from past adventures. We went to help him more than anything.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for the comment! Yeah, I think we could figure out the issue with the electrolysis. Worst case scenario we need a marine electrician to figure it out, and that isn't the end of the world. Hal is pretty handy and smart with such things, so we'd try to problem-solve first. The prop has been changed now, new anodes, and new paint, and now getting a rebuilt rudder. The bubbles are not osmotic blisters. They're solent based. Good news for us. Kinda.

@martawnreese9696 10 месяцев назад

Sorry to hear that

@TheSirensLog 9 месяцев назад

😕 We shouldn’t be looking at boats that sink! Haha

@GeorgiaTrappingandFishing 10 месяцев назад

Great video y’all I’m still diggin the Mikelson 😊🔥👍👍

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Thank you!!! So are we! We will keep giving updates on the boat as they unfold.

@davekimbler2308 10 месяцев назад

Brutal !!! I like the way you guys play Good cop / Bad cop on looking for a boat ! I have a feeling that with the amount of work you don't want to do ( not saying you can't ) and your price that your willing and able to do that your going to need a lot of luck finding that boat for you !

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

You’re not wrong there. When we started looking really closely a few years ago, the budget was a lot higher because my house was up for sale for more than double what it actually sold for. As we dropped the price on the house continuously for over a year, the boat budget dwindled. At this point, we would have to have a really good deal- and they do happen! But we have to be able to bite when we find it, and we probably can’t get something as ready to go as we’d planned. The way I figure, we will have to get into a boat for under $75k and then continue to make money to do the work. We are half considering temporarily going smaller, or getting another stepping stone boat. It just sucks when you feel like you’re finally there and ready for the right boat, and then something happens and you’re back to another stepping stone. I think if we did go smaller or settle for something else, we’d have to figure- no overnight charters, etc. So at that point we can’t spend a huge amount of money because we can’t monetize it the same. OR we just go look for the dream property down in the Caribbean or somewhere in Florida and start there first, then get the boat later, but at that point, we’d have to save all over again for a boat that doesn’t need a refit. To buy a property and build a house will already be a lot. We’d hoped to have the boat and then later buy property and slowly build a house as we make more money. Ehhhh I dunno. So many ways it could work out at this point. We just aren’t getting any younger. I’m 36 and Hal is pushing 39. We’re at that point.

@joshedmond2599 10 месяцев назад

Enjoying your channel, and looking forward to seeing more!

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Hi Josh!! Thanks so much for your comment. We hope you subscribe and stay with us. Videos out every Sunday morning. Glad to have you!

@buggsy5 10 месяцев назад

With the power cord, it looks like either the boat is wired incorrectly or the shore power was. Since both power cables had the failed plug, they were probably wired right. You may need to settle for a somewhat low overhead - which is not unusual with tall people on reasonable sized boats. How was the person fool enough to sail with the portholes open?

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

He didn’t sail anywhere. He was anchored. There was a lot on that boat not working.

@nasaboy1982 2 месяца назад

I gotta ask, where is this boat now, my buddy owned this boat a few years ago and it got hauled out in Apalachicola and he decided to part with it. I honestly fell in love with this thing

@TheSirensLog 2 месяца назад

@@nasaboy1982 It sank in Steinhatchee 😞 I was watching it while it was in Apalach, and I’d actually already seen the boat the year prior. My boss owned it and it was in Panama City and we looked at it. It was in bad shape then.

@williamkhatchell620 10 месяцев назад

Still like the Mikelson 50 Pilothouse Sailboat, think I would raise my offer 10-20K but point out the negatives in a detailed report showing what you think it could cost to repair. Hopefully it will get the bank moving a little your way.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Yeah I wrote that up for the first. They’re doing more work to the boat now and we will likely make another offer early next year.

@craigmartin8326 10 месяцев назад

That is a good move to much work.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Watch to the end!

@lutomson3496 10 месяцев назад

I had a junk built in Formosa (Taiwan) in the late 70s in of teak, was cheap and slow had it for a few years and sold it for what I paid for it kind of wish I would have kept it but Maint on it was high and I didnt use it much after I got out of the USN...they were kind of a workhorse disposable item back in the day...and the saying of the best day of the boat owners is the day they buy and sell money pits in between

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

Yaa. They are beautiful though.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

hahah Yeah that's true!!! Very cool. Probably fun just to have it built and enjoy it what you did!

@southernfriedkiwi7726 10 месяцев назад

It's a shame that you guys didn't have the money 3-4 years ago, when there were several Scorpio 72s for sale for around $300,000+ as I recall. They would have been perfect for your preferred look and chartering ability.

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

We lost a lot of deals because we weren't ready. We saw a CT54 in incredible shape for 80k. It sucks.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Thank you! Yeah, even now we don't have a huge budget, but enough to get the boat and really get going and get it up and moving. Been watching and looking for a few years now, but finally have the money in-hand. Thanks for watching!!!!

@charlesmcdonald5465 10 месяцев назад

I’ve never restored a boat. Seems like a real small margin with how much parts cost? So a 50k project is a win over a 100-130k sail away . I started shopping do fun and there are so many decent newer boats from 75-150 . I know it’s not a giant ketch but I wonder where the fun ends with a salvage? I dunno? Seems like some guys hate newer boats and would rather have a “leaky Teaky”? Iam wondering if it’s better to shoot for the middle? Like a 90’s boat?

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

We're at the age where we want what we want. I have don practical my whole life. We are at a age where we can have what we want. The problem is, these boats are a fortune in perfect condition. We just need seaworthy to start having fun and can make her perfect through the years.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

That's what we did! This is an 87. One of the very last boats of this style to be built.

@charlesmcdonald5465 10 месяцев назад

So it’s more a style than a practical thing? Sorry it sounds dumb iam just a land lubber in Montana lol! I see another channel that has a Formosa they paid 55 or something. So you’ll find one I bet! Saw somewhere on you tube a show in all the Taiwanese built boats. Think they still build boats? Have fun and look forward to the refitting!

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

It is kind of like cars in a way. We want a classic Cadillac. @@charlesmcdonald5465

@woody4269 10 месяцев назад

@@haltarpley9237 wtf.😂...i love crazy people. Life's short, play hard!!

@Ramona-i6d 10 месяцев назад

I know where there is a sailboat you could possibly get for 5,000. Don’t know how long it has been out of the water but I know the man sailed it from south Florida and it is now on a trailer. It sits in a back yard and needs out soon. It needs work inside Im sure. Central Florida.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Thank you!! We’re looking for something a little bigger though.

@jeremybarrow2455 10 месяцев назад

I just realized that I have no clue of what I was going to say. But, according to the internet, something is wrong and y’all keep up the good work. Do you broker abandoned house boats in Maine? Asking for a friend…

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Hahahahahahahah Amazing.

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

It's all wrong because it's you, not me.

@randall39 10 месяцев назад

The coffee cup this sounds exactly like me. 😂😂😂

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

hahahah Is it a man thing?!

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

Man, I swear she moved it.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

No I didn't! I literally filmed it when I saw you put it there, ding dong. @@haltarpley9237

@martawnreese9696 10 месяцев назад

Enjoyed the video

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Thanks Martawn!!

@pirateatfourty 10 месяцев назад

used to be illegal in florida to do it havent live there in years

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

To do what?

@runepettersson9721 10 месяцев назад

It's a ticking bomb all the penetrations in the hull and propeller shaft. Have they not been replaced or repaired since the boat was built on an old boat. Then the impossible happens. When the water starts to rise in the boat it's too late to do anything.....the shut-off valves are stuck in the open position, if they are there at all or can't be accessed.... 17:48

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

This is a concern. I have no idea how old that prop was, but they replaced it. I'm not so worried about the hull, and I don't think the yard would do anything seriously bad with the bottom paint. They're a great yard, and they build VERY nice boats here, so they know what they're doing. The bubbles aren't osmotic blisters, they're solvent based, so that's good news. Still a job to be done there, though.

@pirateatfourty 10 месяцев назад

looks good

@wedjr97 10 месяцев назад

Makes me upset to see a possibility sail able boat sink. I’m sorry.

@TheSirensLog 9 месяцев назад

It does sting.

@dirk3730 10 месяцев назад

Can leave her in a shipyard and she's happy and makes a good breakfast Burrito....and dude's only request is to be able to stand up.... Ladies and gentlemen we have a solid match❤😂 It's a Damn shame about the Formosa they are such beautiful boats

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

hahahaha, yeaaaahhhhh. I know it, about the formosa. Such a gorgeous boat.

@Turaelin 10 месяцев назад

Just found your channel, don't know how serious you are about a big old sailboat but... If headroom is a deal killer thing... (it was for me BTW... I get it) I'm 6'... and our Gozzard 44 is AMAZING. I have more than walking headroom everywhere. You may want to take a look at a Gozzard... =] Like what you two are doing. =]

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

We have been looking at them online. We like them and they are on the list. Thank you for watching!!!!

@Turaelin 10 месяцев назад

@@TheSirensLog We always heard, "You'll know the right boat when you set foot on her." Well... all I can say is, when we first saw her, I'd have bought Roci (Black Beauty as was) even if she'd been on fire. Thank you for putting in the work... I know, I tried it and well, I'm retired... and making good "Content" is way too much like a job. =]

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

@@Turaelin hahah It’s totally a job! A few hours or more of filming, then the hours of editing…. Sometimes more than a full day of work just in editing, sometimes just a few hours if it’s a simple video. Then managing comments, making sure the gear is charged and good to go… yeah it’s a lot. About $10k investment just in gear… And then people complain about the quality of the videos. 🙄 Gotta have thick skin, I reckon. Lol You’re right about the boat and “you’ll know it when you see it” and I’m actually a little too set on that if I’m honest. I talked a little about that in the video about making that offer on the Mikelson, and we got backlash for it, of course, but my point was- If I’m going to spend ALL my money and all my energy into a boat, a boat that I want to attempt to keep for many years, I want it to be something we both really love. And if none of our viewers understand that, then whatever! Haha 😂 If we end up with a boat that isn’t ideal, then I’m going to lower the budget. You understand that! Thank you

@JonathanAlfaro 10 месяцев назад

I'm shocked. It sank! 🥺🥺🥺

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

I know. 😩 poor thing.

@tip0019 10 месяцев назад

How tall are you Hal? I saw a Vagabond 47 in Port Charlotte (boat listings) and they tend to have a lot of headroom. Super cheap too (10K) so probably a significant project. Coming from Europe it is difficult to appreciate the distances in the USA, so I won't mention "in the neighborhood" again, but it's Florida 😅 Is the dog gone? 🐕

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

The pup made it. LOL Port Charlotte is 7 hours away. Closer to 8 with stops. I have had this conversation with Europeans I have met in my travels. When you try and explain how big the US is they get a glossy look in there eyes. I mean, Texas is bigger than Spain. LOL. Do you have any contact info on the boat? I am 6'2". That is 1,879,600,000 nanometers. So it is hard to find a boat with head room for me. Especially, with boots on.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Yeah, I'm considering looking at that Vagabond 47 down there. We have to go down that way early next month anyway so it will probably be really easy to stop in and see it. It's a project though, for sure, but at least priced for it. Which dog?! The little chihuahua on the formosa was all fine and good. The wild dog we have is still here. He's supposed to be going to Maine to live with a friend of mine but she's out of the country so we have him a little while longer. Thanks for the comment!

@tip0019 10 месяцев назад

Yeah, I meant the "wild dog". The only thing I immediately disliked is the white painted wood planking inside. Why 🥲. Good Sunday 🍺@@TheSirensLog

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Yeah I’m not sure the reason for that. Probably not fun getting it off either. Our wild and crazy thing remains exactly that. 😵‍💫 He’s about to get locked in the bathroom (don’t worry that door barely even shuts lol) if he doesn’t settle down!!!

@jimintheweb632 10 месяцев назад

Coffee cup ahoy @ 13:24 forward of the port beam! Oh the 'wunders' of marriage. Capt'n, I agree w/ you concerning the head room & walking upright. Definitely agree. . Charter business is gonna come w/ many headaches. Just imagine 3 days out & heeling on the blue when suddenly one of the customers goes ballistic, a loose cannon. What you do, capt'n? Walk em the plank immediately after tossing the dinner's fish entrails? Ha! -such would go viral on the tube. Especially out here where we got the whites -great whites. The compromise for the extra cash-on-hand might be too unbalanced (insurances, cleaning up 'their' mess, the whining, barf below decks -RANK!, etc.). But then again . . . . Formosa 51 had the plug pulled -twice?! I do hope fido made it out ok. Wonder if his gifted 305's (not menthol stogies, I pray!) went down w/ the ship? How sad. I do hope he's not left high & dry. Five grand & haul-er home. Nice long-term project for a master woodworker / boat rehabber. Personally gotta give her wide berth Thanks for the lead yet that pair of dragons turned me off -Lol. FairWinds & Calm Seas, Capt'n & Siren .

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Hahaha, Thanks for the comment and please subscribe! We'd love to have you around. The dragons are a classic staple in a lot of these Taiwan builds. Some of them have ship or plant carvings in the solid wood doors, some have dragons... I'm actually not sure if some yard or certain years did certain things, or if the ones being built custom had certain carvings they likes to do or what. I wish I knew the specifics on that, actually. Yeah, the charter industry.... Oh man. You're right! It's one of those things you just hope you don't have to deal with, and may never, or you just cross the bridge when you get to it. I worked on yachts and we catered to guests, ya know... wiping poop out of bidets, etc. Never had to deal with puke, thank God. But there is an entire industry of small boats with owner couples running charters on their boats, so we wouldn't be doing anything unique. I've met countless couples around the Caribbean doing just that, and been on their boats, and I've seen their set-up's, which is handy information as it's much tighter and different from the yachts I've worked on. I did also work on a motor coach (one of my yacht crew agencies got me the job) in VERY close quarters and essentially did the same job on that, so running that bus will be very similar to running this boat as well. I know there will be moments, but hopefully nothing that we can't handle. Apparently Molly the chihuahua was fine and the guy is off the boat and moving on. Not sure the current status of the boat, but can't imagine it being good. That boat was a bit much for us, honestly.

@bearitraeb 10 месяцев назад

To have the $$ not to care how much it cost to restore 😊she’s beautiful

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

The Formosa or the Mikelson? Two boats, one video. The Formosa would cost a LOT more.

@simon-oy6um 8 месяцев назад

They were full of solid teak and well fitted out but the balsa core deck let it down when water got through the deck screws and rotted the sandwich out making the deck soft ,i know how to fix it but it will take a year of hard graft and knowing what your doing 😊😊

@TheSirensLog 8 месяцев назад

Yep, exactly. We can do it, but that's not a job we want to do. Projects are fine, but we want to try to limit them to "quick" projects.

@simon-oy6um 8 месяцев назад

@@TheSirensLog there's no such thing on a boat believe me 😇

@TheSirensLog 8 месяцев назад

Well, no, but ripping up a teak deck is a huge job, where replacing an engine is faster AND cheaper. That's all I mean. There are some things that will put you on the hard for a year, and other things that you can do in just a few months and do the rest underway @@simon-oy6um

@faircompetition1203 8 месяцев назад

new paint = the biggest problem the owner had and the question is it a cover up or is it fixed . The blisters tell you which .

@TheSirensLog 8 месяцев назад

Yep. Didn’t love the paint lol

@seanrhone5306 10 месяцев назад

I'd bet it would cost you about $125k to restore that Formosa. Great boats but man it was rough!

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

Depending on the restoration could be more. I hate her fate. They are beautiful, incredible boats.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

I'd promise you it would take a LOT more than that. We're betting on spending that much on the Mikelson, and it doesn't need nearly the work. Please subscribe!

@woody4269 10 месяцев назад

Grt vid. 🍻. Im starting to understand y u guys r keen on this style of boat. Daves boat looked sad, but t berths looked amazing and it looked so solid at anchor. Chill dude for sure. Loving t drone work on this and your last vid too. And KC, if u didnt know this b4, coffee cups R invisible. My midgets my coffee cup finder. And hes a bloody legend at it too. ☕️🤙 edit....hals gotta b happy as larry, u lost ya cough. Good job!! But your still KC 🤣

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

Her cough is finally going away. Yes, coffee cups and 10mm sockets. Both invisible.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Hey, it’s not gone yet!

@woody4269 10 месяцев назад

@haltarpley9237 ain't that truth. Frikkin sockets!! If they could stop making 10mm bolts, prob solved.

@woody4269 10 месяцев назад

@TheSirensLog nooooooo. U hid it well that's for sure

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

@woody4269 use to be my 1/2 inch. Damn world using decimals. I miss fractions

@russoley8995 10 месяцев назад

Sorry to say but even with your short video I was surprised that boat had not sunk yet. I felt sorry for the dog.. Also sorry to say but it seems that you are going to look at junk boats, but expecting or maybe hoping they will not be junk... also sorry to say but many boat yards are full of junk boats that people thought they were going to repair. I can not express how much work and expense bringing one back is, and it is very easy for them to reach to point of no longer worth the cost, even if the work is free. I do hope you understand that as you say you do... best of luck to you. also not many Blow boats are going to have lots of head room.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

this is true!

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

To be fair, I have met the owner in the past and he was in a tight spot. I went to look at the boat, give he guy a tow to safe harbor, visit the folks for a minute, ect. It was a win win for everyone. I wouldn't have gone to just look at the boat. Thanks for watching. Stick around. We might surprise you.

@pirateatfourty 9 месяцев назад

i take it you are in florida. lots of boat yards there, and lots of abandoned boats,

@TheSirensLog 9 месяцев назад

Yep!

@Rottingboards 6 месяцев назад

Beautiful lines on a formosa, but the rot was extensive. I could almost smell the damp wood through the computer screen. Sad this man lost his sailboat.

@martawnreese9696 10 месяцев назад

If Hal cannot stand!!!

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Yeaaahhhh that’s his biggest request.

@smiller3565 10 месяцев назад

I know…wrong coast…but Formosa 56 in Hawaii…$50k..needs sails/electronics (stolen)

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Is that thing still there?! If it’s the same one, it’s been up for sale for a long time. The photos are like 7 years old and it keeps changing brokers, none of which have responded in the last 3 years and then the last one said they were prioritizing people IN Hawaii.

@smiller3565 10 месяцев назад

@@TheSirensLog I actually talked to the broker…and have a copy of the survey….was taken for a while to another island…now back in Oahu…the thing scared me was it was valued at $65k…usually surveyor’s double the actual “sellable” price…I have a couple recent photos broker sent me…all outside and don’t really show anything other than it floats…Good luck to you guys…looking forward to following your search!

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Yeah I’ve been watching that one for a long while until it disappeared. I loved that one! But I’d also seen those photos on a forum from seven years ago so even two years ago I knew they were old as hell. Then to never get updated photos?? What broker doesn’t take new photos? I figured it must be bad.

@DDixon3121 9 месяцев назад

It appears you're in the Panama City, Florida, area. If so, are you familiar with a CT51 named "TERRA FINE WITCH"? At the time of the last severe hurricane to hit that area, the owner Charles Ray Browder, kept her at the marina just south of the Hathaway Bridge (Highway 98) near the industrial area where Berg Pipe is located. She survived the hurricane but due to the marina damage, Charlie was anchored somewhere near there. Charlie lived on the boat as he had done for many years. Anyway, he called me (I live in Mobile, Alabama, and had helped him restore the teak coamings and such after he bought her. I also carved the name across the stern and on the two boards at the bow) a month or so after the storm and asked I come to Panama City to help make some repairs. We talked once after the new year and after that I couldn't reach him on the phone. I later learned he had drowned. I ofter wonder what happened to TERRA FINE WITCH. Charlier was the brother of TJ Sheppard, the famous country music singer. Charlie wrote many country songs that were recorded by many famous singers through the years. He also ran with Elvis Presley and had many wonderful stories to tell. Again, any idea what may have happened to his boat?

@TheSirensLog 9 месяцев назад

Is it navy?

@DDixon3121 9 месяцев назад

No, the hull is an off white. But someone could have painted it. @@TheSirensLog

@TheSirensLog 8 месяцев назад

Hmmm I’m gonna look

@johnchristensen2113 10 месяцев назад

Maybe consider getting rid of the distracting obnoxious "music" so we can hear you. Who picked that loud noise?

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

You’re the only one who complained.

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

RU-vid provides a list of music to choose from. If you try to venture off that list you end up with a copyright strike. It happened to us on our third video. It took off with 30k plus views and a copyright strike all in the first day. Now it has 300 views. So we choose the best free music RU-vid has to offer. We don't like it either. LOL

@headshedwisdom 10 месяцев назад

Pretty cool music, never mind the obnoxious twat

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Hahahah Thank you! Yeah on the last video we had TWO people complain about the music and it's well over 100k views. So I figure the music probably isn't a problem. lol

@buggsy5 10 месяцев назад

I don't like it either, but at least it is not as bad as many videos. @@TheSirensLog

@desotosky1372 10 месяцев назад

Nothing free about a free cat or dog if you take care of them properly. Not a boat person but I'm getting the sense it's the same...

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Boats are always far from free!

@grahamwheelock7497 10 месяцев назад

I worked on a dream boat it worked on my emotions the generator to run the bilge pumps did not work with the owners emotions the gales of November and next time I saw the boat it was in more pieces then I saw it before a tale to all the mariners out there if your not gonna fix it leave it alone and watch it go down don't buy anything in life you can't take care of have someone else fix something for me no please just put a penny in my bucket

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

Wise words.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

That’s a very long sentence.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Did the boat not have batteries?

@grahamwheelock7497 10 месяцев назад

@@TheSirensLog batteries and solar power work as long as a negligent owner

@grahamwheelock7497 10 месяцев назад

We are also talking about a boat from 1915 that had sank and I helped the owner fix with no money owed to me all he had to do was pay a yard bill which was far smaller then my labor in the boat

@davidhakes3884 10 месяцев назад

Seems like a syndrome taking the Mizzens down, 4th one I have seen having done that. Sinking formosas, got one on the West coast spent a few days sunk now they ask 8K$,,,,, out of their tree. My Dream Boat= BeoWulf 78ft all Aluminum 300mile a day boat cruises at 27kts . Only 1.75 Million a Dashew boat.

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

Apparently they to it down so it would fit on the lift. Then they couldn't get it back up. I don't know. That boat is a sweet dream.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Oh man! ahahah Sounds epic! David, you haven't subscribed?!?!

@PowellRoadDIY 10 месяцев назад

There’s a real nice center console sail boat that’s for sale on the wando river at Dentons boat yard. What’s an email that I can send y’all a picture. Goose creek South Carolina on bushy park rd

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Hey! I saw your email. Sirenwilliams@thesirenslog.com Thank you so much for sending that over!!!

@faircompetition1203 8 месяцев назад

$5000 dollars for a boat that was in rough shape before it sank , such rough shape it sank , twice ,is too much . In fact they need to pay you to take away his junk . I used to know a guy that repaired boats and did a few that sunk and his advice was never ever buy a sinker . Even the stuff that works will quit soon as it corrodes away

@TheSirensLog 8 месяцев назад

That’s true unless you replace literally everything. As soon as we saw the boat we knew it was too much.

@steveipod1 10 месяцев назад

The formosa

@TheSirensLog 9 месяцев назад

Such a pretty boat in its day

@pirateatfourty 9 месяцев назад

sometimes it will take forever to find the right one. all depends on your finances.

@TheSirensLog 9 месяцев назад

That’s the truth. Been looking for a few years, the trouble is that the economy seems to get worse as we go so the budget keeps changing.

@rickhodges1731 10 месяцев назад

Some of these boats would be better off being used as reefs under water! Terrible condition! A fixer-upper is one thing, but some of these are not worthy of rehabilitation! They are junk! We have had 7 boats over the last 60 years. Only one was a wooden boat. It was a classic Chris Craft 19ft. speed boat. It was more work than all the others. Beautiful but not worth the work. Things are changing. Charter business? The insurance alone is big $$$$. That boat that sunk looked like it was ready to sink! A question that I think about is what you will have when you get it done? Probably not going to be worth any where near the amount you've invested! Not to mention the time you put in. It is a business decision, so it's all the about ROI! Loose the emotions!

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching! It's not a wood boat.

@rickhodges1731 10 месяцев назад

@TheSirensLog The one that sunk sure looked like a wooden boat? My point was my experience while limited, taught me how much work wooden boats can be.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Sorry, we’re only looking at these Classic Taiwan builds, like Formosas, Vagabonds, Hudson Force 50’s and the like, none of which are wooden boats. We live in Florida and frequent the Caribbean so while a wooden boat would be a dream if we lived up north, that’s in no way the plan. We also have a good deal of experience, and even for us, that’s more than we care to deal with.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

So no, none of the boats we’ve featured so far are wooden. The boat that sank was just another Formosa 51, a Taiwan built fiberglass boat.

@rickhodges1731 10 месяцев назад

@@TheSirensLogExcellent! Your experience is impressive and should help you guys find the boat you're hoping for.

@raymonddesmond8869 8 месяцев назад

What caused it to sink?

@TheSirensLog 8 месяцев назад

I would assume a seacock broke or something. 🤷‍♀️

@rc3211 10 месяцев назад

Go to Miami after the first of the year, the land of broken dreams. Walk the boatyards and walk the piers. By the beginning of January everyone that left from points North has made it to the jumping off point for the islands and realized the cruising life isn't for them. You should be able o find an ocean going and more importantly ocean ready cruiser. Some will come from the Great Lakes and had always been in fresh water and stored in old factories every winter. They literally see the light of day for 4 or 5 months a year.

@TheSirensLog 9 месяцев назад

That’s true but really we have that all over the state! Green cove springs is a hot spot too

@seawench555 10 месяцев назад

I hope the little dog is safe

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

He is!!! I asked and he is in good spirits.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Awhhh That was one of my first thoughts as well. thanks for the comment. Please subscribe!

@gaireywoolum5643 10 месяцев назад

Her name is Molly she is great aloha

@seawench555 10 месяцев назад

@@gaireywoolum5643 I've got 6 Chihuahuas, love them to bits🇦🇺🐕😁

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

SEE!!!! SeaWench has a pack of chihuahuas! I told you, I'm not crazy!! @haltarpley9237

@tangoreal9098 10 месяцев назад

Run Away!

@TheSirensLog 9 месяцев назад

We did!

@faircompetition1203 8 месяцев назад

No idea why people like those boats (Formosa ), big heavy slow and lots of work without headroom or the advantages of modern layouts . Every single one I have seen is coming apart if not meticulously maintained . There are smaller boats with more room and better made that will be cheaper to own .

@TheSirensLog 8 месяцев назад

That’s is true but each one is a little different so some do have the headroom, while others have areas that limit that. The layouts vary. And they were build across like three different yards so all built at different standards across multiple years, and improvements were made over the years. But you’re correct. Formosas don’t have the best reputation as far as this design is concerned. That’s one reason I liked the Mikelson. It’s basically the Formosa, but built later, so it’s newer and built to a higher standard and with a great layout and the interior is still very solid which is hard to find.

@MADKIWI 6 месяцев назад

My 80yr old Dad says BOAT means: Bring Out Another Thousand ....

@TheSirensLog 6 месяцев назад

That’s what everyone says! lol and it’s true!

@MADKIWI 6 месяцев назад

@TheSirensLog I'm a new subbie from New Zealand. The States aren't the only place you can get cheap boats. I know a few folks that buy in the Med and sell in the UK & Europe. Even NZ & Aussie... good luck on your adventure. I'll be watching intently... Well done, you two & fluffy dog...

@TheSirensLog 6 месяцев назад

@@MADKIWI thats smart! I thought about buying cheap and bringing home and overhauling and selling…. But… wanted a good boat that I really wanted first. Maybe do that on the side. lol

@MADKIWI 6 месяцев назад

Work smart, not hard.... You now have a heap of new folks to ask advice & save yourselves alot of heartache & money... enjoy life with adventure...

@TheSirensLog 6 месяцев назад

@@MADKIWI Thats true but we also learned very quickly a lot of them have no idea what they’re talking about, no offense to them! lol

@chadstinson9886 7 месяцев назад

Zinc is a cheap wear part why why wouldn't someone not change them.

@TheSirensLog 7 месяцев назад

Some people go years without even cleaning the bottom! Wild.

@sreed8570 2 дня назад

Once they sink and water especially salt water gets into the walls and corrodes every wire and circuit and rots all lumber, short of an on the hard gutting of the entire boat you could never have faith it wouldn't bite your ass far from home.

@TheSirensLog 2 дня назад

Totally true.

@Edmund_Mallory_Hardgrove 3 месяца назад

What would it cost to ship a boat like that. I thought about it. I have land were I could take my time on a hobby boat, but it's inland. That's the big expense of restoring a boat, you end up having to work fast, pay someone to work fast, or let a boatyard fees eat away at your bank account.

@aphilippinesadventure9184 10 месяцев назад

A boat with that many issues is getting worth close to zero. Smart to pass...

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

It is smart to not own a boat period. But as the original title said, we're idiots. lol

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Which boat?

@aphilippinesadventure9184 10 месяцев назад

@@TheSirensLog The Formosa 51 with 51 rot spots ...that's always just the beginning...lol

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

ahhh yeah, well.... it sank so....

@aphilippinesadventure9184 10 месяцев назад

@@TheSirensLog haha...you are not surprised...

@rickwag6000 10 месяцев назад

rode hard and put away wet

@TheSirensLog 9 месяцев назад

It’s a common trend!

@steveipod1 10 месяцев назад

Ive spent hundreds of 1000s repairing restore my latest yachts. Buy better quality formosa DO NOT BUY THIS DO NOT u may think shes going cheap and you will get a lot size yes but she will destroy you

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Are you talking about the Formosa or the mikelson

@billpeterson7446 5 месяцев назад

BTW ... FYI ... That's not a Formosa, it's a Hudson

@TheSirensLog 5 месяцев назад

No, it’s a Formosa. Sorry.

@billpeterson7446 5 месяцев назад

@@TheSirensLog I beg to differ again. I own and have lived aboard a Formosa 51 since 1982. What you have there is a Hudson, sometimes referred to as a Hudson Force 50. They were built on the same island as one another but in different yards. They were built to a lesser standard than the Formosa 51's. Some if not all of the Hudson's had cast iron instead of lead in the keels for instance. I claim a deeper knowledge of the subject on account of seniority :) having been involved with these type of vessels and their owners for over 40 years now. I do understand the misunderstanding on this subject as there has been tons of confusion and what we now call misinformation about these vessels. Heck some people don't even think they sail well. Give'um some wind and rethink that if you value sea kindly. Cheers and fair winds

@TheSirensLog 5 месяцев назад

@@billpeterson7446 To my knowledge, Formosa Boatbuilding didn’t build any Hudson’s. Seniority aside, I’ve been familiar with the Taiwan builds for decades myself. In my personal experience, I’ve never seen a Hudson Force 50 with triple portlites on the transom. I also stand by my original statement that it’s a Formosa because the placket inside read Formosa Boatbuilding, as all the Formosas do. Unfortunately they were one of the lower quality builds of that style and era, and the Hudsons and later the Mikelsons were a bit better overall. Take a look at some of our other videos. I did a walkthrough on the CT 54 that may interest you- maybe you can add some info to that. Or the Mikelson 50 we featured a few times.

@CurticeCustomsLLC-cl4es Месяц назад

I beg to differ i have the current bill of sail from the us coast guard and it’s actually an island packet 50.8

@CurticeCustomsLLC-cl4es Месяц назад

@@TheSirensLogi have to say thank you for this video ❤

@robbyoliver4953 10 месяцев назад

Well I think it all boils down too how much work, money and time you are willing to spend on a boat. One think you need to remember is everything else is replaceable except, time. Some feel like it is only time, and not that significant. But time is not replaceable things are, money is. Your time you spend on rebuilding a boat you will never get back, so I am not willing to waste my valuable time on junk. What about you ? Ponder on it a while.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Oh believe me I know. We’ve been looking for the right boat for a few years and we’re literally running out of time. That’s why the Mikelson looks so good because it really doesn’t need as much as people make it out to. It needs a lot! But we can do the important stuff sooner and work over time while enjoying the boat. As time goes on, we’re going to end up going smaller because we will need less of a project.

@robbyoliver4953 10 месяцев назад

@@TheSirensLog I would love to see you guys get your dream boat so I am going to stay tuned. I wish you all the best.. You are young enough to get a lot of use out of one. Lots of enjoyment so I hope it is sooner rather then later. Witch ever boat you decide on just go with your heart, and don’t worry about us on lookers. It is your dreams and aspirations that matter, our option really don’t. Like I said I don’t want a boat I must go thru a refit with because of time. But I am over 60 so my time maybe short to enjoy one. Life is short so if you going to do this, I say jump and don’t ponder around wasting time. Who knows how much we have left.

@dustinfrost5214 8 месяцев назад

That's a cheap packet of cigarettes here the cheap9 pack is 32 dollars 😂

@TheSirensLog 8 месяцев назад

Well to be fair those are by far the cheapest cigs on the market. Hahaha Hal’s Camela are like $8-10

@dustinfrost5214 8 месяцев назад

Hall camels are 45 dollars here lol a 50 gram of port royal Tobacco is at almost 100 dollars

@TheSirensLog 8 месяцев назад

Where are you??? England? @@dustinfrost5214

@dustinfrost5214 8 месяцев назад

New Zealand cigarettes go up every year here to try make it a smoke free country

@dustinfrost5214 8 месяцев назад

Say 45 us is almost nzd 85 dollars minimum wage is 20 dollars I think

@timothysherman8927 8 месяцев назад

I thought the formosa was a dumpster

@TheSirensLog 8 месяцев назад

Yeah she was beautiful in her day but she’s seen way better days. Too much work for us.

@chadstinson9886 7 месяцев назад

If someone had the time and money she could be a great boat again but 30k is to high.

@pirateatfourty 10 месяцев назад

i do like your sailboat. i have always like those designs. look like a mini pirate ship. id put a few cannons on it lol and the woodwork is amazing inside. why i have owned several choylees i say mine is a 72 but that is at the water line. it is a 78 ft. they didnt make too many of these. my banker is the one who found this one for me. i boughtit a few months ago been at the ship yard getting ready new electronics radar etc. lots of stuff to get it ready for the trip. why i was also looking for a lady to gowith me, my dogs are lousy mates lol no men i do not trust them. espically on a trip like this. my x girlfriend is in italy and i talked to her the other day she wants to go. bunch of old farts on th eocean lol she will be here on friday. she is a good sailer. onery like me lol havent a clue how to make a you tube video she might the trip should take several months

@TheSirensLog 9 месяцев назад

Hahahah We’re still looking for the right boat

@rhett4027 4 месяца назад

I thought you should not pay anything for it. Too much work. No love for the boat. They should pay you to take it. And it's slow!

@captainjollyrogersailingso6809 10 месяцев назад

I guess she sunk…

@TheSirensLog 9 месяцев назад

She did

@johnbowen2963 10 месяцев назад

SHE NEVER SHUTS UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Because when Hal talks, he drags it out and then doesn’t say all the important things. I’m gonna do a video and just let him film, talk and edit the whole thing and see how y’all like it. Also, it’s the Sirens Log. I’ve had my website for yeeeeeears longer than I’ve been with Hal.

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

This is her T.V. show. I am just a supporting character.

@CheersWarren 9 месяцев назад

I cannot believe the bank is,spending money on a boat. That's very unusal. Is it a local small bank? There has to be more to that Story. What are you really looking for? You don't want a project , smart choice .but every cheap boat will be a,project unless you are just plain lucky. There are,so many better boat of this era to look at that don't have the 'leaky teakyt' problems but are not as 'romantic' looking .you should broaden you horizons OR check out some older power boats , for $30-50k there are lots,of usable 42' out there that have,way more ,room than a sailboat. Or for a little more you can find america boats like a Hattaras but you have to be comfortable with Detroit diesels as most have them. some go cheap,because they are big and old,but well make. Way better than Twain built. If you go us sailboat there are,many well made boat too. Gulfstar, catalina, Endeavour. Pearson. Etc but condiTion is everything as usual Cheers warren

@TheSirensLog 9 месяцев назад

Ideally, we wanted the forever boat- something we could circumnavigate in, raise a family on, maybe run overnight charters on… that’s why the layout of the Mikelson works. Whichever boat we end up with, you’ll end up pouring all your time and energy and money into it so why not choose the right one first. It’s not more economical to go smaller or lesser first and fix that up and then sell. I’ve been a lover of Taiwan builds for decades and I’d be hard to talk out of that. But there were different yards in Taiwan and not all created equal. Power boat isn’t completely out of the question, but it wouldn’t be the forever boat and it wouldn’t be economical in the long run, fuel aside.

@johnbowen2963 10 месяцев назад

FREE. BOAT LOLOLOLOL. FREE COSTS YOU MORE AT THE END, NO SUCH THING AS FREEEEE , LOLOLOLOLOL.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

No such thing

@blanco.norberto-w6n 10 месяцев назад

Well, what can I tell you, maybe it's a matter of getting there however you can, in the best state you can get to Guatemala, Honduras (Roatán Island) or Panama (San Blas boatyard) there are attacks against the American currency and there may be a rise in inflation Well, that's what democratic socialist regulators are like, ask Snoopy Biben. The Mikelson 50 is the best in its class, it only needs love, but it cannot be done all at once, gradually, visas and regulations will be more expensive abroad, only the cubic meter of water in the Lesser Antilles is almost 20 Dollars. Humphrey Bogart was a good navigator and he said that the only free place in the world was the sea, now I'm not sure that can be said. good luck

@haltarpley9237 10 месяцев назад

Every government taxes everything now. At least you can pull anchor when you wear out your welcome.

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Hey, you're exactly right! I think the Mikelson probably was the best in its class. Things that came out of the other yards weren't always the best (beautiful though), and most started in the 70's. In the 70's, these boats weren't built to the same standard as they were in the mid 80's. By the mid 80's, most companies weren't even making these boats! Mikelson came in in the late 80's and was pretty much the last company to make them, and this boat is even a 1987, so by that time they had higher standards and had a lot figured out. That's not to say they're perfect! There were plenty of issues even then, but not nearly as bad, I don't think.

@corellian2011 10 месяцев назад

How do I email you

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

Sirenwilliams@thesirenslog.com

@313barrygmail 10 месяцев назад

You guys know more than most people in the comments You can always learn in a little and a little constructive criticism isn’t bad but when you’re giving it from a couch

@TheSirensLog 10 месяцев назад

lol Thanks Barry!!!

@buggsy5 10 месяцев назад

Well, there wasn't much to go on in the first video. I would still run away. But with enough time, skill and money, it can be turned into a nice boat.