This gadget means police can ID you anywhere - BBC London 

Who’s the actual developer and where’s his or hers credit for this?

I wouldn't subscribe to the BBC so long as I've got s hole in my arse.

I would not watch anything the BBC supposed or suggest. I would really would be insane 🤪

your like the oposite of robin hood so no thanks

This pricks the gouverment and police are robbing our human rights. Im glad im not living in the Uk i‘ve would have started a riot straight away!!!!

To make a arrest in England and Wales the Police And Criminal Evidence Act PACE was revised, meaning a officer needs necessity criteria, there are a number. Two of those are to ascertain someone’s name / date of birth and address.

@@moj6241 . You DO NOT have to give your name and address unless the officer points out an offence he / she suspects you have committed. However, not providing your details may lead to you being detained for longer.

Just imagine if it deletes it from the national data base

Lol that got me to

It's "Compare only" it doesn't "Store it" Essentially, when the print is taken, it reads the print and analyses it, it then compares it to the national database, and displays any matches, if no matches are found, it will display this on the screen. If you think about it logically, it wouldn't need to store the fingerprints taken... because the whole point of using it, is that the police suspect the person is giving a false name or, is about to commit, or has committed an offence. Now in order to store it, they need a name to store it against, so that any future matches to that print will show a person's name. If they suspect they're providing a false name, so they take their prints, and no matches are found (because they've not been arrested and put on the system before), then unless they can be sure the name they have been given is that person's actual name, then there is no way the print can be linked to any particular name. The custody process is different, when arrested, the officer provides the circumstances and the reasons, if detention is authorised, the person is asked for their name, address, occupation, and risk assessment questions are answered, such as if they have any illnesses, are injured, take medication, have suicidal tendencies or suffer with depression, or if anyone relies on their care, etc. Once the details are taken, and the custody record is created, THEN they go through to the room with the live scan machine, whereby the detention officer inputs their details (first name, surname, date of birth, etc) into the system BEFORE capturing the prints. So then, going forward, if those prints are scanned on a machine, it will link to the match from when they were bought into custody, and the key point, is that it will give a NAME of a person. There is quite literally no point whatsoever in stopping people on the street, and taking their prints, but not being sure that the name they have given you is correct, because if you can't confirm the name of the person then the prints will be stored against no name, which would be utterly pointless. The whole point of storing prints it to match it to other records and identify the person, by being provided with a name. If there's no name linked to any print then you aren't going to get a name, so the whole process would be pointless.

@@thefiestaguy8831 did you start writing this comment when this video was shared on RU-vid a year ago? 😂 🤣 Jk buddy.. 👍

how will people ever know 🤔

Johnoè the video explains the device does not keep fingerprints and they’re deleted after use. They use the fingerprint and compare it with databases (both national and international) to check their credentials and criminal history..

Sweet Peaches this is my point, you can be put in that data base if they suspect you of doing something they don’t yet have evidence for. For example if you’re arrested today, they keep you on the data base for an indefinite period if you’re ever falsely arrested for the same thing again that gives them reasonable suspicion.

Johnoè I guess I just don’t really buy it, I’m not a criminal nor have I done anything illegal so I don’t see it as a concern..I’ve never even been stopped by the police

Sweet Peaches you don’t need to be a criminal or do illegal things to value your privacy. It becomes a problem when you’re driving your nice car in a bad area and you’re getting stopped 5-15 times a month because you’re out of place. Wasting your time again and again all because you got stopped and added to a register of previous people that have been stopped. Or someone hacking into their system and with you finger print and details, they’re able to buy stuff in your name and so on.

Johnoè saying straight facts, my guy

Amen

@EMINƎM 😂

More likely if you being detained you getting cuffed

Yes amen

People trying to spin it like the uk is turning into a police state then they complain against grooming gangs and knife gangs "you can't have your cake and eat it*

It will be late then to open your eyes

@@aiozba Millions AWAKE

In what way?

😂😂😂

Shane Richards I can see a time when we we’ll have I’d tags implanted at birth.

@@richardh6089 well we won't because we are already born. But I hear you my brother. Scary times for generations to come

@@slickidrich490 very scary times. I'm going to teach my future kids to be soldiers, awake and ready

It’s just to confirm who you are and can only be taken if you have committed an offence... if you are not a criminal your data will not be on any police database. Its the law... Read a book... better yet... listen to what is said in the video?

Gary K because they could be a fake beggar

some beggers follow you around until you pay

That woman is always there though

Gary K I still want to know the name of the Charity that is paying for the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS to fight their Deportations from UK. this money was meant for doing good in the World helping poor and needy NOT for FIGHTING LAW SUITS. this Charity should be REMOVED from CHARITIES REGISTER and CLOSED DOWN.

@@f333ntanyl YOUR NOT VERY GOOD AT READING BETWEEN THE LINES ARE YOU ?

But after that, who is next? hmmm, this is a first step, but a first step towards what?

Gotta sway public opinion somehow

Good point

And how do you know she’s an Immigrant?

Damien Bell but then if fingerprints are there are easily found

It will though

Yet. Give them time.

amen! but sadly most don't know what their rights are :(

Based on what? Suspected of committing an offence.. in any case, if they doubt his identity, and he can't prove it (with a photographic driving license or some other form of photo ID), they can use it.... Driving without insurance is still an offence, so is driving without a valid MOT, the fact it's a traffic offence is irrelevant, the term is "committing an OFFENCE".

@@thefiestaguy8831 You can not get prints took for driving offences, only under pace to prove who you are. Some driving offences, yes which are criminal offences. Police can't just pull you and take prints. Don't argue.

@@spudhead1161 The whole point of taking prints is to prove identity, regardless of the offence. If you can't prove the identity, or keep changing your name and date of birth when the officer asks for it, it's pretty clear you are making it up, and so an option which gives them a realistic chance of finding your name and date of birth is to obtain your prints.

I presume your Facebook accounts qnd whatever else myst be v secure like most of the population. Who cares if the cops have your fingerprints, might narrow down some suspects if you or your family are the victims of crime.

@@iainduncan0303 I don't agree with alot of the laws in this country now as they're becoming outdated and unjustified. I feel the government has got too much power over the population now and this just feels like another way for the government to control people as well as what they say and do, don't get me wrong, this will likely help do alot of good, but in the UKs current state, the last thing we need is for the government to have more power and control over innocent people

@@NicholasCoulter can you give me an example within the criminal sphere of how the government hold too much power? The only thing I can think of is perhaps the new law which stopped noisy protesters outside Parliament which is recent and as long as the noise was not stopping them doing their job they should be allowed in my mind. Other than that I can't think of anything personally. In fact the new data protection laws have hindered the legal system dramatically, offenders (who often don't commit crimes as a one off) DNA etc is only held on the data base for a 3 years unless it has been particularly violent AND sexual which they can apply to hold it longer. This 'protection' has let many offenders go free or qt best prolong the investigation And as stated - 99% (dare I guess) of people complaining about the government holing their fingerprints have their entire life story on media like Facebook for all to see.

@Korsalath such as? Sell it to the aliens? What are you afraid of?

@Korsalath can you give me 2 examples of your worries about your identification details please?

You can, in certain situations you are obligated to provide it. If they commit an offence, or are suspected of committing one, or are involved in anti-social behaviour, under numerous different laws they are required to provide name, this is especially prevalent in traffic offences. You get stopped driving stupidly quickly... the officers want to report you to court, for perhaps, driving at 70 in a 30... They need to fill out the forms so that you can be sent a court summons through the post. You refuse to give your name and address, or even confirm that the car is yours. Without your name and address, they simply cannot complete the process, and therefore no summons could be issued, and so, as such, PACE CODE G (You clearly want to look it up) allows them to arrest people in certain situations who refuse to provide their name and address, in this case, they'd likely arrest them for obstruction, UNTIL such time as they provide the details. Realistically, if you were nicked for this, and driving on the way back to custody, and then suddenly decided to provide your name and address, provided they were in a position to stop and check these details, they'd do so. As long as you weren't then wanted for some other offence, they'd be able to process the court summons form and then you'd be let go, receiving the summons in the post usually weeks later.

That is a stupid thing to say. Do you think a criminal will be like "ok, I committed a crime, here is my name, DOB and address" No.

I adore this comment.

How will they abuse it? Personally I don't have a criminal record so I have nothing to fear.

lol

Bob blog Law - but he failed to mention what your rights are in any of the lyrics...

@@ef7480 that's why you should educate yourself

That is the point, it is to late now. We already under control.

66topman It happened to me recently, I said I’m happy to cooperate if you tell me why you want my name and they replied “cause we’ll arrest you”.

They cant unless they suspect you of a crime. But I'm sure they can make one up.

66topman They said not giving them my name was an offence.

If you are driving a vehicle then you have to provide your driving licence, and if you don't have it then provide your name address and date of birth.

@@tomo0086 arrest you for what? For not giving your name when you haven't committed a crime? Tell em to arrest you if that's so.. Even though they won't. It's called SCARE TACTICS 👍🏾

No only those that were arrested or if you have a BRP biometric residence permit

Criminal files

When you come into the UK the first time, they take your fingerprints at Customs. Its that simple

@@jeiuanne331 But not from EU citizen...

@@jeiuanne331 no they don't

Andrew true, forgot to mention that

mohd thurab It’s not the fault of the police you dummy it’s the judiciary who is at fault and idiotic softly softly human right laws.

jeff johnson that’s just a stupid thing to say this will be abused horribly

Amen they keep trying if this gose on any more there will be a riot

Rico Banks The Gold Banker exactly

Read PACE code G 😂....

It will only work if your prints are on record but apply a layer of superglue before you go out.

Any other suggestions

Exactly

Everyone slowly becomes trackable by even more methods how is this a positive? Police state

Nathan Howard exactly 👍

Mario get a life. Maybe a green mushroom may help

Mario done already mate got nothing to hide

The reason they do that is that "Old Lady street begger" could be an illegal Begger

Not for long hopefully a No Deal will affect this

its a breach of privacy.