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This Game NEVER Should Have Returned | Gigantic 

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Welcome to my video on why it was a mistake for Gearbox to bring Gigantic back from the grave.
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@AceJokes
@AceJokes 5 месяцев назад
Before I get blasted in the comments just remember this is MY OPINION. Also if you enjoyed the video go ahead and drop a sub it means a lot! ru-vid.com/show-UCk4TrR4GtgszucLqJsjTK0Q
@wilverine5557
@wilverine5557 5 месяцев назад
I would also like to mention the community who kept the game alive in spirit for 6 years! It’s far less toxic than any of its competitors, and the fans are loyal. If nothing else, the old fans got a game we love back… I don’t think that warrants NEVER bringing a game back to life when there is a community who genuinely loves it.
@AceJokes
@AceJokes 5 месяцев назад
The community of the game is a mad w, I haven’t had any bad experiences with them so far
@CatacombD
@CatacombD 5 месяцев назад
It's nice, sure, but will the game be profitable? Definitely not. It's like Storybook Brawl. I loved Storybook brawl. It was a wonderful hearthstone-esque autobattler that was great fun to play with the boys. I would love if the game got picked up by another company and relaunched. .... but it would make zero financial sense for anyone to do that. The game had a (tiny) loyal following who played it till the day it closed, but it did fail once already, and the auto-battler genre is only more competitive now.
@RyanDob
@RyanDob 4 месяца назад
I played the heck out of this game in college! It was so much fun and to me was the superior hero shooter at the time. May it rest well
@KillaTundant
@KillaTundant 5 месяцев назад
returning with a pricetag was a braindead move tbh. Might actually have done decent if it was free. Atleast for a longer while.
@AceJokes
@AceJokes 5 месяцев назад
big facts
@coolcuckz5266
@coolcuckz5266 5 месяцев назад
banger
@AceJokes
@AceJokes 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the support!
@marcelloanders5343
@marcelloanders5343 5 месяцев назад
Gearbox didn't do Half Life, that was Valve
@Joel-k4p
@Joel-k4p 5 месяцев назад
Man did I really just listen to a full review of a game by a guy who only played it 6.9 hours...damn.
@AceJokes
@AceJokes 5 месяцев назад
Wasn’t a review of the game my guy
@Iyforthis
@Iyforthis 5 месяцев назад
@@AceJokescall a horse a cat
@Foodknight
@Foodknight 5 месяцев назад
I strongly disagree with the conclusion of this video. While its true that the game will likely never reach the popularity of its competitors, I dont think thats valid enough reasoning for the game to not come back. Obviously it'd be nice if gigantic became as popular as tf2 or OW, but for myself the only thing i really want out of a revival is a second chance to enjoy an amazing game i feel died too soon. As long as the game makes enough money and has a large enough playerbase that gearbox feels it can justify keeping the servers up and fixing any major issues for an extended period of time, thats enough for me. I imagine most people that played gigantic in the past feel this way too.
@CatacombD
@CatacombD 5 месяцев назад
The point was not that it must be as profitable as TF2 or OW. The point was that Gigantic already failed financially once, and the hero shooter market has only shrunk since then. By all means, enjoy Gigantic again while it lasts. It's great that the fans will get to give the game another final hurrah. I think you should prepare yourself, though, because gigantic is doomed to die again. Gearbox is part of a publicly traded company, so Gigantic will have to show profits in order to not get the old yeller treatment a second time.
@iantakenotes
@iantakenotes 5 месяцев назад
gigantic is the best thing to come back in my opinion, although i see what you're saying about their funding issues and lack of showcasing. but f jizzard and OW2
@AceJokes
@AceJokes 5 месяцев назад
I think if they were solely looking to bring a game back then Gigantic was a good choice, but I still think they’re just gonna take the money and run after a year
@juanmanuelrodriguezarango4415
@juanmanuelrodriguezarango4415 5 месяцев назад
Motiga and its developers did not deserve the terrible treatment they received from their investors (who in the end only hindered the development of the game) and from OW fans (who denigrated the game, calling it a "poor man's copy of Overwatch", I even remember that the developers at Gigantic were beset by a controversy over the design of the HK-206, as people said it was a copy of Bastion, even though the HK-206 had been shown since 2013)
@gamersworld4176
@gamersworld4176 5 месяцев назад
i dont see why people disagree with the video and giving it a dislike. the points here are totally valid. also when you mentioned hero shooters you didn't mentioned valorant and apex legends. although they are not strictly hero shooters but they have the mechanics of that. gigantic with a pricetag will have a very difficult time to compete against all these free to play titles.
@rafaelcalmon2858
@rafaelcalmon2858 5 месяцев назад
Honestly, showing Overwatch and TF2 as unbeatable giants of the genre *paints a picture that doesn't match reality.* *TF2 has nearly no support from Valve and no prospects for the future.* The game is mantained by the sheer resilience of its community, but it ain't gonna be drawing new players. *Overwatch 2 is very much disliked by the community and took a lot of Ls since launch.* Devs left, players left, the competitive scene keeps growing weaker, and new players have less reason than ever to get into the franchise. *Honestly, though it would still be hard to release a sucessful hero shooter, the competition hasn't been this weak in over a decade.*
@AceJokes
@AceJokes 5 месяцев назад
Both Tf2 and Overwatch are saved by the massive dedicated player base they have so I think calling them unbeatable giants is pretty valid, but you're right the competition is crazy weak
@Kentanyl
@Kentanyl 5 месяцев назад
Game is more alligned with smite than overwatch or paladins.....
@AceJokes
@AceJokes 5 месяцев назад
I disagree, why do you think so
@EmceeMOTH
@EmceeMOTH 5 месяцев назад
@@AceJokesthe map layout, the item system being replaced with an ability skill tree, both games have guardians that we need to kill to complete the game, lack of payload mode that is actively seen in hero shooters. It’s way more similar to Smite than the other two
@Kentanyl
@Kentanyl 5 месяцев назад
@@AceJokes because ive played the game lmao, but in all seriousness, the perspective is a huge part of it, the fact that during combat youre pretty much grounded aside from like 2 heroes, and the way that player health isnt just made of paper
@deadbird808
@deadbird808 5 месяцев назад
as much as im very biased towards gigantic, i cant ignore whats going on right now. The game needs a drastic improvement in almost every aspect if it wants to keep player retention. It very much feels like a 2017 game and that wont appeal to the player base that it desperately needs if it wants to stay alive. With that being said, its been a week since its re-release and the devs have BARELY managed to get things in a "decent" state with their servers, but there is still times when the server will just completely brick in the middle of matches. That's literally all they managed in a week. They have yet to even acknowledge ANY of the threads created in their "bugs" and "feedback" section of their discord, which there is literally a mountain of. Like is there just a few, hell even ONE dev working to maintain the game? Its kind of ridiculous. Id like the think that they brought the game back with intentions of growing / expanding it. but the bare minimal effort is a real elephant in the room in this situation.
@AceJokes
@AceJokes 5 месяцев назад
I agree with you, hopefully they find a way to keep it going strong but I don't think they will
@sevenfiftyseven
@sevenfiftyseven 5 месяцев назад
i think f2p is the only way for a game like this to thrive. not necessary of course but it'll bring even more players. but i get it because "no microtransactions", how they gonna make money?
@AceJokes
@AceJokes 5 месяцев назад
I agree for real
@CatacombD
@CatacombD 5 месяцев назад
Yeah for real. The only chance it has is that maybe it will relaunch, do a quick buy-to-play cash grab, and then immediately switch over to f2p, and hopefully ride out the inevitable hate train that doing that sort of blatant cash grab causes long enough to pay for some major updates. But all of this is a total fantasy. The game peaked on steam at just below 6k players is already below 2k players daily peak on steam. That's a tiny playerbase peak in the first place, and they already lost 2/3rds of that in less than 2 weeks. There's no way the game will have the numbers to be long term viable. If you love gigantic and don't mind paying 16$ to get a chance to play it for a few months, absolutely you should get in now, before it's dead again. If people are expecting this relaunch to somehow last, tho, they're high on copium.
@bprojects5697
@bprojects5697 5 месяцев назад
gigantic is a very raw rare gem it needs polishing but despite that it's still a gem i loved it before and i never been happier its back i been having a blast with it and not only i believe it deserved a come back but deserves more love as it has so much potential
@AceJokes
@AceJokes 5 месяцев назад
It does have a lot of potential so hopefully they give it there all with the revival
@camandcheese
@camandcheese 5 месяцев назад
Too bad Overwatch keeps shooting themselves in the foot. And Im sure that even if this game isnt UBER successful its still gonna get the support and server space we want to play it
@AceJokes
@AceJokes 5 месяцев назад
Until they run out of money and then we’re back to square 1
@hanro726
@hanro726 5 месяцев назад
To say that Gigantic "should not have been revived" is way too far. The amount of joy this game brings to thousands completely justifies the difficulties you point out in my opinion. All your critiques are valid but the point of videogames is to have fun, and Gigantic does that, so of course it should be available for people to enjoy.
@AceJokes
@AceJokes 5 месяцев назад
The point is to have fun, but unfortunately this is a payed live service go that doesn’t have long term sustainability due to no micro transaction. What you’re saying is valid tho so I get what you’re saying
@CatacombD
@CatacombD 5 месяцев назад
You gotta be realistic about these things, man. This isn't a passion project being released an independantly wealthy indie dev; Gearbox is owned by a publicly traded company, so they need gigantic to pay for itself in order to not just immediately die for a second time. Don't get me wrong, you should absolutely enjoy it again while it lasts, but I would be shocked if the Gigantic relaunch lasts more than a few years.
@The9thMonth
@The9thMonth 4 месяца назад
It will probably be shut down again, lmao.
@snuron
@snuron 4 месяца назад
Servers are expensive to keep them alive in the long run, so I concur.
@chrx6089
@chrx6089 5 месяцев назад
To be fair, this game isn't revived for new players, it's for the fans. I think Gearbox won't purchase its rights if they didn't see its potential. I haven't purchased the game yet, it's on top of my list to buy, but if you said it didn't changed much then I think it is a good thing! This game didn't need to change! It needs a Single Player game mode though, the queue has been an issue the first time they launch too
@Basteal
@Basteal 5 месяцев назад
So, players suffering from long Queue times are just kind of dumb. If you pay attention to the game, the Crew system seems really buggy. If you Queue for a game with a fresh Crew, (even if it's only you), typically, it will work and you'll join a game. If, after you finish that game, or the game fails because a player drops out, you are put in a bugged Crew that will constantly get a false 'Player has left the game' message instead of joining a game. I'm not sure if you're actually ruining real games, or if the game is false to begin with, but it's this bugged Crew mechanic that causes the super long Queue times as well. If you've waited for more than 10 seconds, unselect your character to disband your Crew, then reselect it and Requeue. I was playing consistently on the first day with this trick.
@zuth1044
@zuth1044 5 месяцев назад
Yup 100% anytime my search takes longer than 30-40 seconds I just reque and almost always instantly find a match
@CatacombD
@CatacombD 5 месяцев назад
"Players who suffer from bugged queue times are dumb, because they should know that the queues are bugged and take actions to avoid the bugs." Ah yes. Lets blame the players for not knowing how to avoid these bugs, and not the developers for releasing the game with these annoying bugs. >_>
@bboylinxcs
@bboylinxcs 5 месяцев назад
Your entitled to your own opinion,but this game is nothing like LOL or Overwatch ,more like Battleborn than either one of those
@germanramos5637
@germanramos5637 5 месяцев назад
We still have GTA 6 boys Gigantic is dead 💀 burry it
@Snowfax14
@Snowfax14 5 месяцев назад
never got to into paladins because i figured "why play that when i could play overwatch?" and as for overwatch, im sorry to say it just became so unfun to play. thats why I love Gigantic returning. The wacky art style is right up my alley and the gamplay is unique and not just copy paste from other games. Its fun. I like to play for fun. Perhaps it will die again. Maybe it will rize up. Im going to enjoy the ride regardless. cheers!
@AceJokes
@AceJokes 5 месяцев назад
Valid points if you enjoy the game ride with it brother
@sivadirective9060
@sivadirective9060 5 месяцев назад
The funny thing is that at launch, Paladins. Battleborn and Gigantic were all MOBAs, and Overwatch was a hero shooter, yet everyone called the other three games Overwatch clones despite them being a completely different genre. Eventually HiRez gave up and turned Paladins into an actual overwatch clone and the other two just died off.
@Mr.Tokoloshe
@Mr.Tokoloshe 5 месяцев назад
Although I don't agree that Gigantic shouldn't have been brought back (I think many of it's flaws can be eliminated with some effort and luck), you make some reasonable arguments so the vid gets a thumbs up from me 👍👍I hope this vid doesn't get any uncritical hate
@AceJokes
@AceJokes 5 месяцев назад
I appreciate it man, thanks for the support!
@lovebevirus
@lovebevirus 5 месяцев назад
Agree 100%
@kusolp544
@kusolp544 4 месяца назад
dont think it will live that long. but i hope it live on for this year
@bryanjames3574
@bryanjames3574 5 месяцев назад
we making it outta the hood with this one
@AceJokes
@AceJokes 5 месяцев назад
That brother, it means a alot
@thekingofdale990
@thekingofdale990 5 месяцев назад
Gigantic is the only good game there is
@faithrakhajiit9773
@faithrakhajiit9773 5 месяцев назад
Microsoft/Xbox killed it, hope it survive now..
@zallesyn4686
@zallesyn4686 5 месяцев назад
not sure why you and many others compare it to OW when its in an entirely different genre. its a bit like saying tgat apples are trying to steal tea enjoyers. personally i am glad it came back and i am enjoying it so far, even with the few problems it has, at the core it feels good, its fun. let a company make some mistakes as long as the intent is clearly to make an inspired unique experience :P
@AceJokes
@AceJokes 5 месяцев назад
It’s not a different genre tho, theyre both classified as moba hero shooter brother
@Kentanyl
@Kentanyl 5 месяцев назад
@@AceJokes overwatch is not a moba lmao
@gamersworld4176
@gamersworld4176 5 месяцев назад
@@Kentanyl it plays like a moba if you pay close attention. all the team comps, the positioning, the map control etc. are elements of MOBA.
@Maka_TM
@Maka_TM 5 месяцев назад
please lower the volume of ur sound effects next time
@AceJokes
@AceJokes 5 месяцев назад
My fault
@middlefingergunsyt626
@middlefingergunsyt626 5 месяцев назад
How about not everything is about making money? How about its not necessarily all about taking players from other games but having games be what they have always been about. FUN. I completely agree with all your points, you don't say anything incorrectly, but saying the game should not have come back is a seriously dramatic statement. It may not make financial sense to gearbox, but that doesn't completely solicit the game to be lost to time forever.
@AceJokes
@AceJokes 5 месяцев назад
I think they’re gonna take the money and run after about a year or so. Plus they still have to pay for servers so as unfortunate as it sounds it is all about the money
@bprojects5697
@bprojects5697 5 месяцев назад
agreed
@VicetheGreat
@VicetheGreat 5 месяцев назад
Let's be real, if he didn't make such a bold and divisive statement in the title, you never would have clicked. Never mind whether the video would ever have made it to your feed to begin with.
@bprojects5697
@bprojects5697 5 месяцев назад
@@VicetheGreat damn good point we got baited fellas
@TheMelloMunsta5
@TheMelloMunsta5 5 месяцев назад
Bruh...Gigantic goes crazy. When it first dropped it went hard and its been fun even with its issues, which other games cant do well
@AceJokes
@AceJokes 5 месяцев назад
Never said it wasn’t a fun game to play brother
@Ammanuelle
@Ammanuelle 5 месяцев назад
Wasn’t overwatch originally a 60 dollar game ?
@AceJokes
@AceJokes 5 месяцев назад
It was. I'm referring to the game as it is out now not what it was back then, but I get where you might be confused on that
@Grammdalf
@Grammdalf 5 месяцев назад
I want to love the game but the FPS lock @58 FPS is too much for me. If that is fixed I'd no life the game but seeing as the physics are tied to the FPS I don't think that will happen in the short run, if at all.
@AceJokes
@AceJokes 5 месяцев назад
Same I really struggled to get past the FPS cap. It just makes the game feel clunky
@Grammdalf
@Grammdalf 5 месяцев назад
@@AceJokes Precicely and apparently unlocking FPS through adjusting engine files also impacts the other people in your game as physics and stuff are tied to fps. I don't know the details of the impact for others though.
@nicolasmunoz2264
@nicolasmunoz2264 5 месяцев назад
gearbox is not the owner anymore btw. is arc games
@AceJokes
@AceJokes 5 месяцев назад
They’re the publisher that retained rights from when they converted from Perfect World Entertainment (they’re partnered with arc games)
@mrbones1469
@mrbones1469 5 месяцев назад
the time to kill times are so weird in my experience. your dead in 5 seconds and the enemies are unable to be killed despite being shot for 4 whole minutes
@AceJokes
@AceJokes 5 месяцев назад
I completely agree
@BestGeb
@BestGeb 5 месяцев назад
i think the problem with the game is that it isnt fun
@AceJokes
@AceJokes 5 месяцев назад
honestly I kinda feel that same lol
@Summoners12
@Summoners12 5 месяцев назад
Keep up the good work, videos hit
@AceJokes
@AceJokes 5 месяцев назад
I appreciate it!
@JamesLong-to4uz
@JamesLong-to4uz 5 месяцев назад
Them making it paid was the biggest L of 2024
@AceJokes
@AceJokes 5 месяцев назад
big facts
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