The M9 at dollar 750.000 and other expensive speakers are made by the American manufacturer Magico. Why do they cost so much? We went inside the small factory to see what kind of work goes into making these speakers.
I heard a set of Magico M3s and, honestly, I did not think they sounded much better than a set of Kef Blade IIs at a third of the price. They are beautiful speakers and solid as a rock, but they just didn't impress me as much as I thought a $100K set of speakers would.
@@peanutbutterjellyjam2179 - Excellent posted comment. 👌That is, you are 💯% correct, because if you put a blindfolded so-called 'audiophile' in a room with a $10,000 - $29,000 set of speakers and a $50,000 - $250,000 set of speakers, they probably would not be able to hear that much of a difference between the two sets of speakers at all.
@@user-bq8rq8cv4g That is a ridiculous over-generalization. Different speaker designs sound different. Anyone could tell the difference between, say, a pair of Martin Logans and a pair of Wilson Audios. There may not be any correlation between price and preference, and in a blindfolded test, someone may prefer a cheap pair of speakers over an expensive pair, no doubt about that. But to say people - or audiophiles - can't hear a difference between 2 sets of speakers is nonsensical.
It cost that much because the "selcted target market" is more concerned with status than audio. They want to pay absurd prices and these companies laugh to the bank and play them like a fiddle
Anyone notice the big honkin' sign , at face level, that says: "Eye protection must be worn in this room". See anyone wearing eye protection? (Well, O.K.. One guy was wearing safety glasses)
Eye protection, so important. If it's needed, then you've have to use eye protection. I'm retired. I've been on my back in an ER on two occasions having metal removed from my eyes ... due to injury. It sucks. You've got to take care of yourself. Eye protection is probably number one. "it's a pain in the ass" yeah ... but you quickly get used to it. Or; "it slows me down" I've been covered from head to toe in protective gear. Petro-chemical plant; - hard hat - eye protection - ear protection - respirator for fumes - five point safety harness - hot work permit - confined space permit - high voltage gloves - fire-watch ground man All that to perform simple work tasks 𝙨𝙖𝙛𝙚𝙡𝙮. It is a pain in the ass, but you get used to it. Boomer rant. (wisdom is about all I've got at this point!)
I'm using my CNC milling machine to cut 17-4 for parts that fly. Using this not new technology to make speakers is really over the top. I love good sounding speakers, but you can get there with plywood and vintage movie theater horns too.
En interessant video. Jeg visste ikke at disse høyttalerne eksisterte. Men om jeg skulle ha bettalt så mye for en høyttaler så ville jeg ha hadt et bedre utseende, lakk. Hvor mye veier de tottalt?
@@Stereopluss Ok. Ikke alle gulv i vanlige hus kan bære så mye vekt tror jeg? Hvor mye tror du av den tottale kostnaden ligger i kassen? 70% ? Kunne ha vært artig om de hadde laget en mdf utgave av denne høyttaleren
@@joakimkn1 Jeg tror du mussforsto det jeg skrev! Jeg lurte kun på hvor mye av den tottale kostnaden som er høyttaler kassen? Her må kassen være det dyreste? Så tror jeg ikke at mange gulv tåler 900 kilo vekt. Så skrev jeg at det hadde vært artig om de hadde laget en MDF utgave. Da tror jeg høyttaleren hadde vert flere miliioner biligere og de fleste hadde kjøpt mdf utgaven
Maybe I'll find a pair in the trash one day, I've found a pair of vandersteins a JBL metrogan a marantz preamp with an amp someone threw out, I sold both for 4k I got 1,250, for the jbl, not bad for what someone thought was junk and tossed, my girlfriend at the time when i passed by it and went back to look thought i was crazy and that it was all junk but i had a feeling i had found something good, just think that vintage equipment almost ended up in a landfill, talk about being in the right place at the right time, it all worked too, i didn't have it on eBay for a couple of hours before it was all sold, the guy was close and came right over to pick it up.
All that need to pull push air fall under the same rules ..its still woofers and tweeters. I own kef reference 5 meta and would take on the challenge. Its all good anyway :]
The aluminum front plate would look more appealing anodized instead of flat black. A choice of anodize colors would be available to customer's order preference.
@nubertlautsprecher eure sind preiswerter und Qualitativ absolut top, die sind in meinen Augen nur extrem überteuert! Nichts rechtfertigt so einen Preis.
why not use 4 gauge copper coils? and why not nitrogen cool them :)) ps: 5:09 a whisper is about 30dB, a refrigerator is about 40dB. why can't i hear the refrigerator when the radio is ON?
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OtC7VMcJkVY.html Fikk høre ny M7 som var imponerende i deres nye lytterom :) Men ærligheten i gjengivelsen kan også få frem det verste i noen av de dårlige opptakene.
@@FOH3663 I have a pair of Magnat cone mids from the 70's, I used to build speakers for fun, and they are very impressive drivers, and the Dahlquist speakers are still on eBay occasionally.
They are luxury objects, I don't think they have anything to do with good sounds. I prefer the sound of a live cabinet without dampening, like pianos and violins are manufactured.
Rich people can afford to waste money. They are definitely amazing speakers and i bet they sound amazing but unfortunately they are also an even more amazing waste of time and money.
Meanwhile the artist is sitting in a room listening to his production through studio monitors that cost a fraction of the price of these $750000 speakers.
Stupid question: Why aren't high end speakers made of rebarred concrete concrete/cement, possibly with glass fiber filament? ... or even, say, cut out of stone of some sort? For 750.000 dollars you could surely make a similar sized speaker from a huge peace of marble or something similar. I'm not suggesting It's better, feasible or even possible.... I'm just curious. My guess would be that it can't take the stress of the vibrations over long periods of time, but being heavy enough...?
@@ChicagoRob2 Bamboo is a great fast growing sustainable wood source as well. I just checked out their products and they look very nice. Never heard them, but I can imagine they sound great too.
fantastic american company, located in an awful city. thanks for taking the time stereopluss and as an american we profusely apologize for how far a once great city as fallen.
Aluminum casting is so cool and the moulds impressive. Final machining can be a real bear, but it is a speaker and not something that has precision bearing tolerances and clearances, line boring, so I would go this route also. Our local casting place closed down last summer after 60 years. It was sad. Chicago and maybe two other US cities perform smaller, custom aluminum casting. I need to search.
You guys should hear them with the matching Electronics i own a pair of m6 with gryphon audio apex monos and commander pree amp.. no wooden speaker can play like that!
I have a California Audio Technology theatre system. The enclosures are made out of man made marble. My front towers weigh 800 lbs…each. The middle sub (twin 18’s) weighs an easy 1200 lbs. The rear speakers weigh about 400 lbs each. The frickin power amps weigh at least 150 lbs. There are 16 of them, it’s over 20,000 watts. There is very little vibration. Absolutely no flex. They sound like a million bucks, and that’s almost what the system cost back in 2007. I’m a poor fellow who bought this system for very cheap. A lot of the power amps needed capacitors, and the original owner (some ultra wealthy guy) just didn’t want to be bothered with fixing it. He moved on to a different system. I’m a welder and when I saw these speakers enclosures made out of aluminum my first thought was “I wonder if there is any welding done on the aluminum?”
I was a magico fan until I watched this video. I've been in machine shops for decades, and I'm shocked. With the price of these speakers, they can't give their workers an air controlled environment? This looks like a local sweat shop. I question their commitment to quality now.
This comment is like: at thar price, it should be a Lambo instead of Ferrari. For some, it may have "a difference", for 99% of others, it is insane already hahah
We are a Norwegian channel 😊 So we have been uncertain if we should present in english. We do it sometimes and sometimes we don’t. At the start we didn’t have subtitles and then people really got angry 😂
If you have to list the weight of your crossover, I crossover too. To a Joseph Crowe #1695. This is like the alchemists of old trying to make gold out of shyte. They really believed that they could. And they managed to make a living by doing it. Nothing changes, does it? What was then is now. I wonder how many people that buy these actually do a hearing test first? lol.
The title of the video tells it clearly: how to build the most expensive speakers, not the best... Another asset for people with too much money, and maybe no clue. What is the price of the cables for these speakers? Another 100k?
Talking about measuring the response "without the room" while being in a warehouse filled with stuff ...all over the place. No anechoic chamber? Profit is more important I guess.
The process take many hours and the computer will eventually Get the response without the roomeffects. Remember that a anechoic chamber has difficulties with measuring the bass response.
The Klippel implements a mathematical method to eliminate the first reflections and get the impulse response from the measurements. It's basically a windowing method. There are papers about it in the AES e-library, if I remember right.
Idk, but the work and the materials involved don't seem to cost that much tbh, I mean I know it's also about the design process and research and such but heck what do I know
9 000 000 kr ( 900 000 $ )?!? 🤔🤔 Well - if there ARE individuals who NEED to tell that they have payed SO much for a pair of loudspeakers - why not ⁉⁉🤣🤣 I'm 99.99% sure - that most of those individuals CAN'T hear even 50% of these speakers' abilities, but who cares..... Well - great for the speakers' business 😀😀
There are speakers build of special veeners and gold costing more, but as regular speakers they are the most expensive (before Wilson raised the price of there topmodel).
Kharma Enigma Veyron 1 Diamond cost the same (and little bit less here in Norway), but It’s true that the most expensive Acapella cost 900.000 dollar 😱
The mic is not even isolated from the moving arm. This is just selling speakers to fools, I bet that even the designer of the speaker would NOT identify those speakers if compared to others on a blind test.
You can like or dislike Magico-speakers, but They don’t sound like many other brands. So to tell the difference will be no problem. But many will prefer more forgiving speakers
There is no wood in this speaker. Wood is subject to changes due to climactic conditions (temperature, humidity), and while it is 'good enough' for many speakers, to make sound to the most exacting standard of precision you need a material that does not change acoustic properties based on conditions. Metal, synthetic rubber, synthetic fiber, and synthetic adhesives are the only entirely trustworthy materials. Wilson has their synthetic composites, and Magico has aluminum. I like the sound of some wood box speakers and some paper cone or plastic diaphragm speakers but they inevitably change during use and in between uses. Only the aluminum enclosure, composite/aluminum speakers, and total elimination of natural or thermoplastic materials can provide a speaker that does not change under operating conditions.
I think you probably meant climatic, although I have to wonder if you were going for a sneaky pun, with wood changing due to climactic conditions of temperature and humidity. I know mine does.
All these speakers are over priced. CNC machines make manufacturing easy so productivity should cost less. I had a $750,000 cnc machine for stone so I know what I'm talking about. Plus there are fewer electronics in speakers compared to components ie preamplifier and amplifier, so how the hell can you justify the cost of these speakers? Yes they are beautiful but so is Ferrari and Porsche which btw have more electronics and moving parts!
The fact that the workers are not acknowledged and look down/away from the camera, is a VERY different dynamic than at Wilson or Nagra, as an example. This is a BAD sign, and from decades of experience in small assembly shops like this, I can 100% tell you that it affects quality.
Many people look away from camera and that has nothing to do with acknowlegment. Trust me. I have worked with television for almost 20 years and people get shy with a camera in front of them. So I don’t think you should conclude anything about Quality 😊
@@StereoplussTrust me, I have been in factories my whole life. Go and watch the Wilson and Nagra factory tours, as examples. The point is that the manager doing the tour did not engage the workers - no hello.. didn’t know their name… it was clear the workers are treated as second-class citizens. And THAT will show up in quality!
@@Fluterra The guide uses words like we all the time, and that's a very inclusive word to use for a dictatorship. Maybe you just hear me me and me me me. Otherwise you think you are a mind reader, I don't trust such people who think they can read the body language of someone who is completely free and not in danger. You even know how the quality of their product is going to end up being bad. You are a real fortune teller. How clear everything is to you, it's like that with everything in your life as if you know everything all the time and your always right ?🤣🤣
They don't have to be 10 times better than others. Just a little bit better is justification for someone truly obsessed with hte best sound, if he has enough money to afford them. Same is true about almost anything you can imagine that can be ranked relative to its competition. In my experience, there isn't much correlation between sound and price. Some expensive speakers can sound awesome, some sound like crap; same as with cheap speakers.
yeah ok now make a solid gold 8 ton monsters costin 18 millons each. 7:25 thats ridiculous. 20 kilos crossover hahahaha what a useless joke..aaah i see, those are a liter capacity reservoirs of snake oil. now i get it
I have limited time in the factory and I’m doing filming by myself. So I don’t have as much of the process as I want to. But we try to do it better for each factory visit 😊
While it is fun to take a block and CNC the hell out of it to get a custom shape... i cannot take anybody or thing seriously at an industrial scale doing this, what the actual f... stupid stupid stupid. Mismanaged resources 101.
Ridiculouse. Expensive just to be expensive. Foolish people out there though will pay that price just so they can tell people what it costs. $100k amplifiers, $50k turntables etc. So not worth it. I bet those big speakers dont come aywhere near costing even a tenth of lust price
Sorry. Absolut der Realität entrückt. 200kg Alu. Das Material mit dem höchsten Energiebedarf. Was soll das ? Zu blöd es mit holzwerkstoffen hinzubekommen. Titan voicecoil. Ist kupfer zu blöd geworden?👎👎👎🇩🇪
@@granbusken If they cast the piece, there wouldnt be much waste to recycle. But your logic is to cut down a tree to make a toothpick? as long as you use the rest of the tree to renew the soil?
@@freeradical6390 Cast vs machined: I believe Magico's intensions is probably the best quality aluminium, as casted are more porous/less dense than machined. Not saying it would affect the sound and final result in a speaker, but thats probably their ideology why. And if they choose best quality aluminium, no matter what reason it is, recycling is good.
They are not the most expensive at 375,000 US dollars per pair. These speakers cost $450,000 US dollars per pair retail: Final Audio Opus 204. BTW, San Francisco is very dirty in many places due to socialism, unfortunately.
