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Big 12 Watch With Josh Neighbors
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@ericlofroos2405
@ericlofroos2405 Год назад
Miami should definitely go to the Big Ten! That would be a major win, win for Miami and the Big Ten. FSU and Clemson would be a huge win, win for the SEC!
@jamesosteen4280
@jamesosteen4280 Месяц назад
Fsu to the sec would bring millions to the local economy's . Less keep the money down south
@Dan-zb1ks
@Dan-zb1ks Год назад
This Just In!! The ACC still one of 3 conferences to not lose anybody. 😢😢
@adancinhipo
@adancinhipo Год назад
Why aren’t you counting Maryland?
@VBHokie
@VBHokie Год назад
Hahaha! Give it time...and don't forget The Terps - they were first.
@ellaluna5514
@ellaluna5514 9 месяцев назад
@@VBHokie How many conference championships have the Terps won since leaving the ACC. Are they filling their football stadium for home games?
@bsakoff
@bsakoff 6 месяцев назад
Very well done. People seem to forget what GT would bring to the Big 10. You are one of the few that truly get it.
@rtstrong
@rtstrong Год назад
Florida State doesn't want to be the *other* Florida school in SEC. I'm thinking FSU would go Big 10. IMHO. Big 10 would pounce on Georgia Tech, Duke and North Carolina.
@RedMage409
@RedMage409 Год назад
The SEC has already said they don’t want Miami, but they will consider FSU and Clemson.
@vernonsheldon-witter1225
@vernonsheldon-witter1225 Год назад
However, they are now an AAU institution. The Big 10 will get interested. It will put them into Florida.
@RedMage409
@RedMage409 Год назад
@@vernonsheldon-witter1225 yes the big ten does want them, along with UNC and UVA. Probably will try to get GT too.
@George-Kliavkoff4Big12
@George-Kliavkoff4Big12 Год назад
@@RedMage409 agree with your B1G assessment. Who do you think the SEC will go after? I think FSU, Clemson, NC St, and VT.
@RedMage409
@RedMage409 Год назад
@@George-Kliavkoff4Big12 same, with Big Ten taking UNC, UVA, GT and Miami. Big 12 probably gets Louisville and Pitt.
@daddio159
@daddio159 Год назад
@@RedMage409what happens to BC, Syr, Duke and Wake then? If those schools aren’t taken by SEC, or B1G, I’d totally see the B12 at least taking Duke for bball, maybe even Syr to get into NY.
@mikelally97
@mikelally97 4 месяца назад
It’s about brands. What brand matchups generate the biggest paydays. Markets don’t matter bc everything is moving to streaming. Academic fit doesn’t matter much either. FSU is going to the Big 10. SEC doesn’t want them, and there’s bad blood w ESPN after playoff snub. UNC to the BIG. ND stays Indy. Clemson and VaTech to the SEC. Miami, Pitt, Louisville and Virginia to the Big 12. But don’t be surprised if the Big 10 boots Rutgers and Maryland to make room for UVA and Duke.
@therealanonymous12
@therealanonymous12 6 месяцев назад
Georgia Tech is a founding charter member of the SEC, so they can play that card anytime now
@otisjohnjr.3023
@otisjohnjr.3023 Год назад
Why would Miami work so hard to obtain their AAU status along with Notre Dame?
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 10 месяцев назад
Better question is why did the AAU add unworthy members?
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 6 месяцев назад
@@tarheel7460 Is there no limit to your stupidity and dishonesty?
@HeyWabbit
@HeyWabbit Год назад
SEC Florida St, Clemson, North Carolina, Virginia Big 10 Liberty, Duke, Miami, Georgia tech Big 12 Louisville, NC State, Pittsburgh, Virginia tech
@ReisterJP
@ReisterJP Год назад
Liberty? Really?
@VincentPaterno-hs2fv
@VincentPaterno-hs2fv Год назад
@@ReisterJP Falwell's fundies in the Big Ten? Surely you jest, and as the great Leslie Nielsen said...
@ReisterJP
@ReisterJP Год назад
well if a cult like BYU is in the big 12 why not.
@vernonsheldon-witter1225
@vernonsheldon-witter1225 Год назад
@@VincentPaterno-hs2fv The Big would rather die than take a fundie school like Liberty.
@Andoverx
@Andoverx Год назад
As a Liberty Alum, I don't think the Big 10 and Liberty would be the best fit for each other. While I personally would love the level of competition (we might actually be competitive in the middle of the pack) I just really don't think there would be any interest from the Big 10. Not unless we became an AAU school and a few other things. Culturally we might fit in better with the SEC or maybe the Big 12 (considering they have Baylor, TCU, and BYU now).
@bigtomcallahaniv3072
@bigtomcallahaniv3072 9 месяцев назад
The SEC doesn’t need FSU, or Clemson! However, UVA, Miami and UNC are worthy candidates, along with a few other non-ACC schools. Then, the B1G will grab FSU, Duke, Syracuse, Louisville and Notre Dame (who will also have an option to join the SEC should they choose to).
@tampabong5055
@tampabong5055 Год назад
The left over ACC teams would join the leftover PAC-12 teams to form the PACC Washington St San Diego State Oregon St UC Berkeley Stanford UNLV Boise St VA Tech Boston College University of Pittsburgh Georgia Tech Syracuse Wake Forrest Duke University
@davidframe1613
@davidframe1613 Год назад
This would actually be a pretty good idea. Take the ACC and pac 12 teams they hate religion and put them in one conference. 🤣😂 We'll call it the afterthought conference. Or the conference that doesn't play well with others. 🤣😂
@jonm4501
@jonm4501 10 месяцев назад
@@davidframe1613 They could still be the ACC, just now the Agnostic Athletic Conference 😁
@SharkTheTitanOfAmazingStuff
@SharkTheTitanOfAmazingStuff 11 месяцев назад
California, Stanford, and SMU are joining the ACC
@jamesb0255
@jamesb0255 9 месяцев назад
With the exception of Florida State and Clemson every other school in the ACC sucks ass in football, historically. Their records against Florida State and Clemson are just insanely bad. Why any conference would want those schools is beyond me. I don't care what market they're in if they suck nobody's going to watch. Now before anybody says anything, I know that we have been down for about 6 years. That's a hell of a lot less than every other program in the ACC. If anybody would really like to see the numbers you can take a little initiative and look it up yourself but if not just respond below and as soon as I get time I'll look it up and post it on here. I don't mind doing research I'm a former debater and was😮 a pretty damn good one at that. Mississippi and Texas both have two SEC teams. Florida could certainly handle it and our viewership numbers would still kill 3/4 of the SEC or Big ten teams. If the SEC chooses somebody other than Florida State then it will be out of spite. Spite for not joining in 1991. Spite for kicking SEC teams ass on the regular. Spite for being the only team in having the only athletic director that have the balls to step up and say this contract sucks and it will not stand. Florida state's collective has nearly tripled since "The Snub". I would not be surprised at all if the Big 10 or the SEC does not offer, we go back to being independent. Of course at that point scheduling would be really difficult because none of the big boys would want to play us.
@tazbo
@tazbo Год назад
I would add Pitt before Louisville
@vernonsheldon-witter1225
@vernonsheldon-witter1225 Год назад
Both make a complete Pod for WVU and Cincinatti.
@tazbo
@tazbo Год назад
@@vernonsheldon-witter1225 yes but Pitt brings the Backyard Brawl which is money 💰 for the conference
@vernonsheldon-witter1225
@vernonsheldon-witter1225 Год назад
@@tazbo And Cincy vs Louisville, bring the Bucket of Nails. Both are old rivalries
@davidframe1613
@davidframe1613 Год назад
You're right that's big money.
@MetalGod999
@MetalGod999 Год назад
Excellent video, but let me tell you who I think the Big 3 Conferences should choose to invite if the ACC implodes, and why: SEC: Clemson, Georgia Tech, Florida State, Miami Big Ten: Duke, North Carolina, Virginia, Notre Dame Big 12: Louisville, NC State, Virginia Tech, Pittsburgh Georgia Tech is too firmly entrenched in SEC country to NOT go to the SEC. Plus, the Yellowjackets will have a natural rivalry with the Georgia Bulldogs. Meanwhile...Duke, Virginia, North Carolina & Notre Dame are all great academic schools, and the Big Ten has always prized academics. And as for the Big 12...Louisville, Virginia Tech & Pittsburgh all make perfect sense for the Big 12. I think the 4th spot could go to either NC State or Boston College. But I chose NC State simply because that school's a slightly better fit, at least in my eye.
@careyconley4690
@careyconley4690 11 месяцев назад
SEC doesn't want GA Tech back. They also aren't going to add two schools from FL. GA Tech and Miami would fit better in B1G.
@quartermaster1976
@quartermaster1976 Год назад
SEC doesn't want more than two schools from the same state but if they made an exception it would be for Miami the convicts are coming back. Plus Florida is growing so fast I wouldn't be surprised if they took a third team from Texas some day as well.
@MrSailorman1970
@MrSailorman1970 Год назад
I have to agree with you. Everyone keeps sayin that FSU, Clem, n Miami will go to the SEC. Unfortuantely, the truth is they most likely won't go to the SEC because it's not about schools anymore. It's about TV markets and $$$$$$ so each conference will be selecting teams based on TV and $$$$$$ . Therefore, the SEC is not going to pick these teams as they already have those TV markets covered.
@RedMage409
@RedMage409 Год назад
Wrong. The SEC already said they don’t want Miami, but will consider FSU and Clemson.
@vernonsheldon-witter1225
@vernonsheldon-witter1225 Год назад
@@RedMage409 Miami is now AAU and may be a drawing card for the Big 10. Gets them in Florida.
@RedMage409
@RedMage409 Год назад
@@vernonsheldon-witter1225 yes Miami is a big ten target. Not so for the SEC.
@michaelwall3393
@michaelwall3393 Год назад
@@vernonsheldon-witter1225 So New Big12 Hypothetically With No PAC Additions & PAC Doesn’t Expand & ACC Can Be Considered. East Division: 1.Boston College 2.Uconn 3.Pitt 4.Louisville 5.West Virginia 6.Cincinnati 7.Wake Forest 8.Georgia Tech 9.Miami University Florida 10.UCF West Division: 1.Iowa State 2.Kansas State 3.Kansas 4.Oklahoma State 5.TCU 6.Baylor 7.Houston 8.Texas Tech 9.BYU 10.San Diego State
@simon2077
@simon2077 Год назад
Pitt, Virginia Tech & Louisville are great cultural fits for the Big 12. Duke culturally I don't know, although it would make sense for BB, I'd love to have them Then, I'd add Colorado & UConn.. By adding UConn with the other 4 ACC schools that would give the conference 8 schools in the east & 10 schools in the heartland. Add either the Arizona schools or Arizona & Utah you got a Big XX. If you were to use the same font as the currrent Big XII, that is one sharp conference design, you simply change the logo to the Big XX.
@davidframe1613
@davidframe1613 Год назад
Pitt Virginia tech and Louisville are all great matches for West Virginia and Cincinnati. Pit and West Virginia should be a pair it's a love-hate relationship but the money that their game draws is unbelievable.
@tomdemay6147
@tomdemay6147 Год назад
UConn is wasting a football spot. Would be far better to get a Southeast team. Someone like Georgia Tech or NC State will be without a chair in the SEC or Big 10. These teams add more money from football than UConn does for basketball and are in far better recruiting areas meaning both the teams will be more competitive on a regular basis or that their recruits could be poached by other schools in the conference. For example adding Pitt, VTech and Louisville they would rather have you add NC State or Georgia Tech and open recruiting for them there as part of the conference footprint rather than add UConn who offers nothing but basketball which dont matter.
@simon2077
@simon2077 Год назад
@@tomdemay6147 All this may be true, but like it or not UConn is in the #1 TV Market, NYC. It's called EXPOSURE, something the conference needs.
@OfficialFlameSports
@OfficialFlameSports 9 месяцев назад
@@simon2077why do you guys think your getting UConn
@vernonsheldon-witter1225
@vernonsheldon-witter1225 Год назад
I think the Big 10 will get: Virginia and Duke (AAU and Basketball Blueblood, which they have not had since the fall of Indiana), as well as convince Notre Dame that they want more than salvation?. The SEC will get UNC, Florida State, Clemson, and Miami. The Big 12 may pick up Louisville, Pitt (for WVU and Cincy), and Georgia Tech (for UCF). Syracuse (for UConn), and BC. NC State may be too small for the SEC. They, too, are at 16. But, they may opt for VTU and NC State. After all, they took Missouri. And they are not as bright as the Big 10. We can disagree with Georgia Tech but consider this. The Big 10 has not said a single word about them since 2019 (the last year they discussed adding Kansas). That is not their pattern, nor is the Big 10 really additional crazy right now since the departure of Kevin Warren. They know that over a specific number, chances are they run the risk of dilution. They also know to keep USC/UCLA happy, they have to get co-travelers to come in for them. They are already at 16 members. Wouldn't Stanford, Cal, Washington, Oregon or ASU make much more sense than going after Georgia Tech? I also see no interest in GTI from the SEC. If they wanted them, they would have had them.
@slibertas1996
@slibertas1996 Год назад
Indiana is back as a basketball blue blood
@michaelwall3393
@michaelwall3393 Год назад
So New Big12 Hypothetically With No PAC Additions & PAC Doesn’t Expand & ACC Can Be Considered. East Division: 1.Boston College 2.Uconn 3.Pitt 4.Louisville 5.West Virginia 6.Cincinnati 7.Wake Forest 8.Georgia Tech 9.Miami University Florida 10.UCF West Division: 1.Iowa State 2.Kansas State 3.Kansas 4.Oklahoma State 5.TCU 6.Baylor 7.Houston 8.Texas Tech 9.BYU 10.San Diego State
@vernonsheldon-witter1225
@vernonsheldon-witter1225 Год назад
@@slibertas1996 Past performance. It seems to count when talking about who is a Blueblood. UCLA hasn't won a Natty since 89 but is still considered a blueblood.
@vernonsheldon-witter1225
@vernonsheldon-witter1225 Год назад
@@michaelwall3393 I don't think Miami will ever go into the Big 12. Same with SDSU.
@michaelwall3393
@michaelwall3393 Год назад
@@vernonsheldon-witter1225 I don’t either but was a hypothetical that I thought was more realistic than other people’s opinions and suggestions and formulations of the Big12. This is of course assuming BIG10 took Syracuse, Virginia, UNC, and Duke and SEC took Va Tech, NCST, Clemson, and Florida State. Because if that happens, then my hypothetical scenario would make sense. Big12 can’t be hypocritical in their argument and approach if complained about PAC and ACC with elitism and arrogance and do that shit themselves. Boise State gets way more viewers than multiple power schools and is more of a national brand and would be a good addition. My hypothesis was that the PAC doesn’t expand and add SDSU and SDSU was available like the ACC schools which are not but if they were, then alignment would be sort of what I suggested. You remember that not too long ago Clemson, Fla State, and Miami were interested in going to the Big12 albeit with Oklahoma and Texas in the conference and thus out of fear that triggered the rest of ACC schools do that ridiculous GoR they all agreed to so no one else would do what Maryland did and those 3 didn’t bolt for Big12.
@mark8337
@mark8337 Год назад
Please don’t say the Big Ten will take anyone other than Miami, Florida State, or maybe Pitt. We don’t want/need UNC, Virginia, Duke etc.
@davidframe1613
@davidframe1613 Год назад
Why are you picking the teams easy to beat? 🤣😂🤣😂
@mark8337
@mark8337 Год назад
@@davidframe1613 Not funny. Notre Dame is in the top 8 of last decade win total. It’s also an historic program. Miami has won national championships. They will get better. But the main thing besides that, is they both have viewers for tv ratings. Notre Dame nationally but certainly in Chicago area, and Miami in South Florida. I’ve explained this before here and elsewhere. It’s about fit, but it’s about viewers and money. All 3 of things.
@davidframe1613
@davidframe1613 Год назад
@@mark8337 I agree they bring money but they still are easy to beat. My local Marshall thundering herd went to Notre Dame last year and beat them at home, how embarrassing.
@jcran8352
@jcran8352 Год назад
not relevant - you must get paid by the word !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@troykeag9101
@troykeag9101 Год назад
B1G - Miami, NC, VA, GT SEC - Clemson, FLST, VT, NCST XII - Pitt, Louisville, Syracuse, Duke AAC - WF, BC
@VincentPaterno-hs2fv
@VincentPaterno-hs2fv Год назад
I completely agree with your choices. There's no way three Florida schools wind up in the SEC, and Georgia Tech is the east coast equivalent of Cal -- drastically undervalued, perfect for the B1G. NCSU and VT are better cultural fits for the SEC, but if it says no, nobody goes anywhere. State politics in both Virginia and North Carolina will demand that State and Tech get similar athletic funding to UNC and UVa, who will prefer the Big Ten. Syracuse may be a bit of a surprise, but Yormark salivates over 30,000+ SU basketball crowds at the dome. I also agree Wake and Duke are left out of this game of conference musical chairs.
@troykeag9101
@troykeag9101 Год назад
@@VincentPaterno-hs2fv Yeah with Miami having AAU status, and even if it didn't, the SEC has a maximum of 2 per state and they've favored FSU over Miami since day one. I think the 4 schools going to the XII are really the best you could expect after the top 8 teams have left. I don't see any place else for WF and BC besides the American or Sunbelt. Yormark's basketball angle is absolute genius as far as I'm concerned because you can't have a true national championship without most of the existing and rumored schools.
@vernonsheldon-witter1225
@vernonsheldon-witter1225 Год назад
Don't think the Big 12 opts for Duke.
@zacheryhardie9313
@zacheryhardie9313 Год назад
@@vernonsheldon-witter1225agreed, Duke as a school. feels more B10 than they do B12….Also, splitting NC/Duke apart is the college hoops equivalent of splitting the Yankees/Red Sox. I think they’re an unofficial package deal.
@zacheryhardie9313
@zacheryhardie9313 Год назад
Pitt an Louisville are no brainers for the Big12 if available….WVU, Pitt, Cinci, and Louisville would be a fun pocket of regional rivals. Louisville, solid historic hoops brand despite being down now and Pitt brings the backyard braw back with WVU. Louisville-Cinci are two towns that are like 1.5 hours apart and already has a rivalry where they play for the “keg of nails trophy”
@raatl7176
@raatl7176 4 месяца назад
Why r so many people so high on Virginia tech? They finished mid table in the acc with Clemson having a down year. Also, Virginia’s tv market is dominated by UVA. The gobblers aren’t even that historic and I don’t think have ever won a championship in any sport 😂. -UNC fan
@observer46-vh5bm
@observer46-vh5bm Год назад
What makes you think that Miami would want the SEC? As to FSU, the fans want SEC. Lots of academics want the B1G. What happens?
@davidframe1613
@davidframe1613 Год назад
I think both Florida teams would have their pick. I mean Miami and FSU would be a great addition to any conference. Hopefully the Big 12 gets Miami that way us mountaineers can party in Miami. 🤣😂
@romanmoronie
@romanmoronie Год назад
The "academics" have a fiduciary duty to do what's best for the school; you know, that bunch of buildings where there are supposed to be students learning things as opposed to NFL light with knuckle draggers beating in their heads pretending they are student athletes.
@observer46-vh5bm
@observer46-vh5bm Год назад
@@romanmoronie what would be best for the school under that scenario would be the B1G, which has a massive academic alliance. Multiple B1G schools apply for grants and do research together on far flung campuses. As one example, the NJ Cancer Center is a research arm of Rutgers. It is one of the top cancer research facilities in the country. They have been doing cutting edge cancer research with about five other B1G schools. This allows them to do things that would likely be impossible for one facility. Students at B1G schools can take classes at any other school, if their campus does not offer something, etc., etc. Those are reasons why the academics may have different view than fans, many alumni or students.
@richardturner3464
@richardturner3464 Год назад
will the north carolina legislature alllow unc and nc state to be split up? is the same true with university of virginia and va. tech ?
@joshsalmons1867
@joshsalmons1867 6 месяцев назад
Uva and VT were in separate conferences before 2004.
@redwolf8135
@redwolf8135 Год назад
Big 10 gets: Miami, Georgia Tech, UVA, UNC SEC gets: FSU, Clemson, NC State, Virginia Tech Big 12 gets: Pitt, Louisville Go football independent, but Big East gets in basketball: Duke, Wake Forest, Syracuse, Boston College
@l3tth3wooki3win
@l3tth3wooki3win 7 месяцев назад
Switch Duke with NC State for the B12 and I am good. Gives WV more options and not so isolated.
@jaredstivers
@jaredstivers Год назад
Your close to what i think, I see the SEC going Florida St, Clemson, North Carolina State and Virginia Tech. 2 new marketing, NCST and Virginia Tech have great college football Atmosphere and car about athletes. Miami just got AAU Status, a big tv marketing, and would be a nice addition with Georgia Tech (Alanta), North Carolina, and Virginia to the Big 10. Duke, Pittsburgh, Syracuse and Louisville to the Big 12. Duke, Louisville being basketball royalty and Duke top 4 in basketball, Top 4 is very close and a seasoncan change any ranking. Pittsburgh, Louisville, and Syracuse all bring naturally Rivalries back to Big 12 with Cincinnati and West Virginia. Make for competitive Rivalries from the old Big East. Boston College, Wake Forest Cal, Stanford and SMU unfortunately be on the outside looking in again.
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 10 месяцев назад
For what purpose such a large and wide Tier 2 BIG12?
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 6 месяцев назад
@@tarheel7460 Is there no limit to your stupidity and dishonesty?
@marcmurphy5262
@marcmurphy5262 9 месяцев назад
I tell you right now Florida State is not going to the SEC Florida State is doing everything they can to get AAU status you got to have AAU status to get in the Big Ten every team besides Nebraska has got it
@AFL67pitt
@AFL67pitt 4 месяца назад
I don’t know why BIG 10 would not want Pitt they are geographically in a perfect zone and used to play a lot of the teams when they were in the Big East back in the day The old Pitt vs Penn State rivalry was fantastic
@RomesThe59
@RomesThe59 Год назад
Outside of Vandy, Florida State would be way above the academic threshold in the SEC
@papabibo5
@papabibo5 6 месяцев назад
Not really, Florida and Georgia are both better schools
@therealanonymous12
@therealanonymous12 5 месяцев назад
South Carolina
@ronwilliams8529
@ronwilliams8529 Год назад
You guys forget that by adding all these "power schools" somebody's gonna wind up being a bottom feeder! More Vandy, South Car, Missouri, the Mississippi schools, one of the Texas schools, more than like, several Fla schools, and Kentucky to name a few.
@toddsands6000
@toddsands6000 9 месяцев назад
Totally agree with you. The stupidity of realignment will set in motion the schools that can spend the money for players that will demand a lot of money through NIL. Texas being admitted to the SEC was a no brainer. I give it 10 years, hypothetically, SEC headquarters will be located in Austin, Texas. I understand a bit why Nick Saban is not a fan of NIL. Now for Saban haters that may reply, hear me out. I completely understand that Alabama spends an enormous amount of their money on football and coach Saban earns a huge annual paycheck. What I'm stating is that a program such as Texas can potentially swallow up the competition based on how much money they can compensate a lot of recruits signing to commit to Texas. This is why coach Nick Saban had a gripe with hc Jimbo Fisher. Of course, Texas A&M is nowhere near as great as a college football program as Alabama. However, institution wise, Texas A&M had much more resources through their endowment power than Alabama. If you look at Texas, they even make Texas A&M look like a step child which was why Texas A&M transferred from the Big 12 to the SEC. I feel the conference expansions of the BIG10 and SEC will do more damage than good long term. The greed has messed with a bunch of collective heads. And here we are. NFL scouts in turn will do everything to seek talent from players from other so-called inferior college football programs. The amount of money these NIL players will demand from NFL franchises once they are selected in the 1st round will be through the roof. The NFL as always will adjust.
@kevinwhite3340
@kevinwhite3340 Год назад
Nothing is happening with the ACC in the "next year or two". How am I supposed to enjoy your video when you say something so stupid one minute in?
@heero75
@heero75 Год назад
This would require the Big10, Sec and Big12 to work together and I don't see the Big10 working with the SEC if they don't get at least 1 Florida School be it FSU or Miami and I don't see the SEC working with the Big10 unless they get either Virginia or North Carolina. Could they split it and Virginia or NC goes SEC while the Big10 gets Miami or FSU, possible but still it would require everyone working together. The only way I could see the Big10 working with the SEC to break apart the ACC and letting the SEC have all the teams in Florida would be if they where 100% for sure to get Notre Dame and there is no way that is possible.
@wally8787
@wally8787 Год назад
The B1G has no interest in UNC and UVA. The problem is that both the SEC and the B1G will be coming after FSU.
@RedMage409
@RedMage409 Год назад
@@wally8787yes they do. They are two of the Big Ten’s top targets. They also want Miami.
@vernonsheldon-witter1225
@vernonsheldon-witter1225 Год назад
@@wally8787 That is not true. As of last week, reputable Big 12 sources have reported that the Big 10 has its eyes on UVA and UNC more than anything outside UND. They might end up splitting UVA and UNC with the SEC. And PAC additions will also have to be addressed by the Big 10. They know they cannot afford them all without some kind of dilution.
@mwtroupe
@mwtroupe Год назад
Its not the conference deciding where these schools go, its the schools deciding where the want to go. If Miami, NC, VA all want to go to the Big ten, guess what that's where they are going to SEC doesn't have any say in it.
@benjaminhawkes6693
@benjaminhawkes6693 Год назад
@@wally8787 they've repeatedly been rumored be interested in unc/UVA... Fsu interest has been relatively recent.
@jeffkilgore6320
@jeffkilgore6320 Год назад
Down below, Michael makes a 20-teamer for the Big12, 10 east of the Mississippi, 10 west of the Mississippi. Helluva an idea. If there are other commissioners, presidents, and ADs as forward thinking as Yormark, and suddenly, you have improved your status. Go Big!! Go Big12!! (Big 20).
@elliottcrews4997
@elliottcrews4997 Год назад
And you completely ignore the ACC Grant of Rights, like it doesn't even exist. Maybe in 5-8 years FSU and Clemson buy their way out of the ACC but this ACC Chinese Fire Drill scenario is just pie in the sky baseless speculation.
@vernonsheldon-witter1225
@vernonsheldon-witter1225 Год назад
If 8 ACC teams opt to leave and pay for it, the ACC will end.
@elliottcrews4997
@elliottcrews4997 Год назад
@@vernonsheldon-witter1225 Back in 1979 if Suzzanne Summers had been willing to marry me I'd be living in LA today. But like the dissolution of the ACC, it ain't going to happen.
@claytonsibley3684
@claytonsibley3684 7 месяцев назад
Considering political, cultural, and academic ties this is how I see B10/SEC in the long run. FSU & Miami go together to the B10. After that the SEC get back into the expansion pool. After that this is how I see it shaking out: B10: FSU, MIA, UVA, VT, GT, Pitt SEC: UNC,NCST, Duke, CLEM, OKST, TCU, Baylor, Louisville Per legislation the NC and VT schools respectively have to go together. Both sides draw each. Duke, TCU, and Baylor go to the SEC with religious ties appealing to the Bible Belt. The B10 gets into metro markets of Miami, Atlanta, & Pittsburgh with adding those three schools.
@troywest7045
@troywest7045 4 месяца назад
None of those schools going to the B1G would get anymore than what Wa/Or got last year, which is half shares till 2030.
@stevenl.halesr.6894
@stevenl.halesr.6894 Год назад
AAC/CUSA: Boston College, Wake Forest BIG: Georgia Tech, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Virginia Big (Little) 12: Louisville, Miami, Pittsburgh and Syracuse Ivy: Duke SEC: Clemson, Florida State, NC State and Virginia Tech
@VBHokie
@VBHokie Год назад
This would be my dream scenario! So, it won't happen. 😔
@jakenunya1587
@jakenunya1587 Год назад
In what world do you think B1G would take 3 schools that have never won a National Championship over a school that has won 5, is in the best recruiting area, is an AAC school and is in the one of the largest TV markets? 🤡
@stevenl.halesr.6894
@stevenl.halesr.6894 Год назад
@@jakenunya1587: Because those three schools fit the BIG AAU and ACADEMIC Profile BETTER, and it puts them into three different states for ENLARGING their footprint... Pretty Simple LOGIC!!! HOWEVER, Miami could get an invite, depending on NAUTY SHAMES Arrogance!!!
@davidframe1613
@davidframe1613 Год назад
As a West Virginia fan you have to take pit first no matter what. Then if Miami is available and doesn't go to the SEC take them. A couple of these ACC schools blocked West Virginia from going to the ACC and was some bitter comments made about WVU fans and academics and I think it was Boston college and Duke so West Virginia may try to return the favor. But Virginia tech and Louisville would also be a great fit for the Big 12. Would not count out Notre Dame because the Big ten and SEC may want them to become full members and they may not want to so they may join the Big 12 with exceptions. But the big 12 should definitely pass on the pac-12 teams for now.
@BB-uu9oo
@BB-uu9oo Год назад
Sankey has said they want the SEC to remain faithful to its geography so Notre Dame isn't in the realm of possibility. They're practically in Chicago and Mizzou will be only "damned Yankees" in the SEC.
@naujelbr
@naujelbr Год назад
So what P5 conference takes Syracuse and Boston College? Oh wait.... Hahahaha.
@davidbrown386
@davidbrown386 Год назад
Fox wants into Florida. Remember they preferred UCLA for the LA Market rather then Oregon. I would also note Miami getting AAU status which helps with the Big 10.
@og_tc
@og_tc Год назад
Fox already got into Florida
@benjaminhawkes6693
@benjaminhawkes6693 Год назад
If you're referring to the commuter school in Orlando, I'm sure they are thinking bigger, and playing games with bigger than the G5 and left behind version of the "P5".
@onlinepole
@onlinepole Год назад
@@benjaminhawkes6693 That’s some world 🌎 class shade but true. Fox 🦊 is writing a $350,000,000 check to B10. B10 won’t be adding programs which Fox/NBC & CBS don’t want to💰 for.
@shybone6833
@shybone6833 Год назад
B1G would prefer FSU over Miami…FSU president want B1G for academics as well
@thatmechanicguy1993
@thatmechanicguy1993 Год назад
AAU is a pretty big deal for the B1G. They want 4 corners. Miami, NC, Washington and ND. If no ND then it’s Stanford or Oregon. Georgia Tech is in play also. Imho. Not many Markets left either.
@ryanr9299
@ryanr9299 19 дней назад
I could see the ACC after the realignment Getting a West and East Coast Division.. then having the champs of both Divisions playing the ACC Championship
@billw5823
@billw5823 3 месяца назад
I don't see the Big XII being an upgrade to all these schools remaining in the ACC without Clemson and FSU. No one in the ACC cares about Miami so they can pay and go if they like as well. These 3 schools are higher on themselves than everyone else is. Clemson and FSU are the class of the league in football but do they really add much to the Big10 or SEC? Also at some point in the near future, the SEC and Big10 are going to look around and realize that they have 4 or 5 schools who don't add to the conference football dollars and cut them loose. Do you think Vandy or Northwestern really moves the needle, does Bama and Georgia want to get equal money with Vandy who is a doormat of the league in football. Same in the Big10 with several schools. It's a matter of time before they turn on themselves.
@deantaylor6919
@deantaylor6919 7 месяцев назад
Guy I’m not sure who you root for .. but the SEC doesn’t need Florida State doesn’t need Clemson we already in both those states. Why don’t the Big Ten get that .. the SEC wants and needs North Carolina, Virginia, Duke and Virginia Tech… Let the big 10 get the rest I don’t care about AAU this is a bunch of bull this is football not class room tech!!!!
@Size-11
@Size-11 4 месяца назад
The big 12 is focus on football. I don’t see how you equating basketball to the big 12.
@chrisg4931
@chrisg4931 7 месяцев назад
I have subjected myself to several of these know it all realignment podcasts. And this one is by far the dumbest, most uninformed one I have watched to date! To say that Duke and Louisville and even pit would be better candidates than in Virginia Tech? Are you kidding me???! Virginia Tech is a top 50 school academically. They’re also the second largest school in the DC television market. Those are facts. !
@talkingcfbwithJJKitchen
@talkingcfbwithJJKitchen Год назад
If Pitt doesn’t go to the B1G Ten, then they are a lock to the Big 12. In reality though, ACC isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.
@captainspartan04
@captainspartan04 Год назад
They locked up in their tv deal til 2036
@pitchshot2868
@pitchshot2868 Год назад
High school teams in Pittsburgh draw more fans than Pitt does. B10 you must be kidding. B12 maybe because they need some teams in the East.
@talkingcfbwithJJKitchen
@talkingcfbwithJJKitchen Год назад
@@pitchshot2868 lol. Such a stupid comment. Not surprised tbh from your fan base.
@careyconley4690
@careyconley4690 11 месяцев назад
B1G has no interest in Pitt.
@ryanr9299
@ryanr9299 19 дней назад
Why does Notre Dame have to join A conference? They make more money being independent LOL
@garyscott4847
@garyscott4847 5 месяцев назад
ESPN has kind of poisoned the well wirh FSU which is why they are leaning Big 10 with their relationship with FOX. SEC would continue to tie them with ESPN.
@indigdoc
@indigdoc 9 месяцев назад
Duke??? Surely you jest! B1G will go 2 ACC teams. FSU & UNC. NC State will want to go with UNCCheaat. Duke to the Big East - with Notre Dame and Syracuse.
@eersrus
@eersrus 5 месяцев назад
The Bug 12 doesn’t benefit with Syracuse or Duke. Neither bring $ from football and Brett Yormark isn’t a social worker.
@theskypals1334
@theskypals1334 4 месяца назад
The sec needs to stop worrying about having more states in their territory with more than one school if you can get football schools the caliber of clemson and florida state you take them and hopefully get into the state of north Carolina and Virginia would be good also
@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13
lol Y’all are super delusional.
@Mr.rogers1969
@Mr.rogers1969 Год назад
Paul Finebaum said Vanderbilt and Georgia Tech to Big 18.
@anthonyjohnson4390
@anthonyjohnson4390 Год назад
Fun thought experiment but why would the SEC and Big 10 take schools that have significant lesser value than Kansas?
@jeffkilgore6320
@jeffkilgore6320 Год назад
Puzzles me too.
@gregorykrug8034
@gregorykrug8034 Год назад
As a WVU fan, I think a Pitt-VT-Duke-Louisville combination would be amazing. (Are we even sure that Duke would keep their football program if they do not get a B10 invite?)
@adartsem
@adartsem Год назад
As a Big XII fan I like your choices, but B.Y. may look at the NY market and choose Syracuse over Duke.
@gregorykrug8034
@gregorykrug8034 Год назад
@@adartsem I would LOVE it if Syracuse got the nod. They have a history of playing both good football and basketball.
@dacokc
@dacokc Год назад
I’d trade NC State with Duke
@tomdemay6147
@tomdemay6147 Год назад
@@dacokc NC State is far better option. Duke is basketball school. NC State offers a football inroad into North Carolina. Duke will be lucky to get a BIG 12 invite and more likely they end up in the Big East for basketball.
@tomdemay6147
@tomdemay6147 Год назад
in my opinion best case is Miami / Georgia Tech / Virginia Tech / NC State. Worst Case is NC State / Pittsburgh / Louisville / Syracuse
@richardbarber462
@richardbarber462 7 месяцев назад
Historically, Pitt - Penn State is a much bigger rivalry.
@aclayhosuton
@aclayhosuton Год назад
I could see the SEC taking OK state. That would open 5-6 spots for acc teams
@vernonsheldon-witter1225
@vernonsheldon-witter1225 Год назад
There will be no more defections from the Big 12. Oklahoma State dislikes the SEC for taking Oklahoma.
@CharlesFosterMalloy
@CharlesFosterMalloy Год назад
Yep, that's next add, to go with FSU, Clemson, NCST/UNC, maybe GaTech - to the SEC.
@Patrick-sg7cm
@Patrick-sg7cm Год назад
I don't think Oklahoma State really moves the needle for the SEC. They already got Oklahoma.
@CharlesFosterMalloy
@CharlesFosterMalloy Год назад
@Patrick-sg7cm Well, good thing I'm in charge of the thinking ... :)
@jeffkilgore6320
@jeffkilgore6320 Год назад
Ha!
@ardentlions6636
@ardentlions6636 9 месяцев назад
Miami is not going to the SEc or Big 10 they bring nothing.
@scottmorrison147
@scottmorrison147 5 месяцев назад
How about the ACC poaching the littlexii??
@rjenkins66bj
@rjenkins66bj 7 месяцев назад
I think people are tired of Norte Dame. They play a weak schedule compared to the SEC or B1G. They usually schedule one or two Major powers. Surround those games with a service academy or mid American school. They are ranked highly every year. Then get knocked out of the top 25.
@smp1965nc
@smp1965nc Год назад
For a team to change conferences - they would have to increase the media rights deal of the conference they are moving into. That means - move it enough to increase the per team share of the existing members. This becomes increasingly challenging as the number of teams in conferences has increased. The real issue is how much ESPN has control in this.
@tomdemay6147
@tomdemay6147 Год назад
ACC has enough value teams where its going to get eaten up. Florida State / Clemson / UNC or NC State and Virginia or Virginia Tech would add value to the SEC. The same list of schools plus Miami or Georgia Tech would add value to the BIG 10. That same list of schools plus Louisville and Pittsburgh add value to the BIG 12.
@pawpower5210
@pawpower5210 9 месяцев назад
IMO, being that ESECPN is the one that's piling on the money for the SEC, they will be a heavy weight in any conversation of who the SEC brings into their conference. I could be wrong but that's what I believe...
@Size-11
@Size-11 4 месяца назад
And you left Miami out
@waltershoults8803
@waltershoults8803 Год назад
They won’t because the Big 12 will die otherwise. Lol
@vernonsheldon-witter1225
@vernonsheldon-witter1225 Год назад
Sorry to disillusion you, but the Big 12 will not die. That is the Pac.
@davidframe1613
@davidframe1613 Год назад
The Big 12 has a new contract with ESPN how are they going to die?
@nathanjm000
@nathanjm000 Год назад
Think the Pac-12 will sign a deal giving Oregon and Washington an opt out after two years
@carsonpittman136
@carsonpittman136 Год назад
The sleepers are the ones to worry about in a deal. No way if I’m Stanford or Utah would I sign a deal that allows them to book but ties me into a dying conference for 7 years
@nathanjm000
@nathanjm000 Год назад
@@carsonpittman136 Stanford doesn't care much about athletics and most Utah fans would riot if they joined the Big 12
@davidframe1613
@davidframe1613 Год назад
Big 12 already has BYU we do not need Utah we already have that market.
@glstewart2324
@glstewart2324 Год назад
Great show and really like the B12 adds
@nickbeef4824
@nickbeef4824 Год назад
Nothing is sacred. Somebody do something!!! Stop these tradition hater oligarchs. Teams may eventually leave the SEC to play in a better conference for them. Then what? It’s cancel culture.
@deantaylor6919
@deantaylor6919 Год назад
So the SEC gets Popeye , The Hulk and Godzilla .. and the Big 10 gets Pee-Wee Herman + Chip n Dale .. No thanks Bud .. Only thing you said that made sense was NC State to the SEC. SEC needs Basketball and new state schools, we are Football HEAVY.. NC State , Duke, Virginia and VaTech would make the most sense with Clemson as well.
@timothyblack3322
@timothyblack3322 Год назад
The SEC does not want Miami. Florida State University is ranked as the 19th Best Academic Public University in the Country: In fact we are tied with Maryland & Rutgers by US News & World Report, this is the 4th year FSU has been between 15th - 19th ranking. Many are unaware of the quality of education at Florida State University. The tv viewership during the regular season has been 1st since joining the ACC, and one of the highest in the Nation.
@nickbeef4824
@nickbeef4824 Год назад
Nothing is sacred. Somebody do something!!! Stop these oligarchs. Teams may eventually leave the SEC to play in a better conference for them. Then what? It’s cancel culture
@davidking3089
@davidking3089 7 месяцев назад
I AM A BAMA FAN. I HAVE WANTED TO SEE CLEMSON & FLORIDA STATE IN THE SEC. SOUTH CAROLINA IS ALL READY IN SEC TO THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE THAT CLEMSON SHOULD BE IN THE SEC TOO I BELIEVE IT WOULD MAKE IT A BIG TIME GAME BETWEEN CLEMSON & SOUTH CAROLINA THAT WAY IT BE AWESOME TO SEE TWO SCHOOL'S IN THE SAME CONFERENCE. THAT'S THE WAY SHOULD BE. I THINK TOO THAT FLORIDA STATE IN THE SEC WOULD MAKE THE GAME BETWEEN FLORIDA & FLORIDA STATE MAKE A MORE BIG TIME GAME LIKE WHEN ALABAMA & AUBURN GAME. I JUST LOVE COLLEGE FOOTBALL. I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE THING TO DO. 🙂
@jamesb0255
@jamesb0255 9 месяцев назад
There's no way the Big ten would ever allow the SEC to have three teams in the State of Florida. The Big ten would act very quickly and make an offer to either Florida State or Miami and it would be pretty healthy to make sure the SEC could not do that. I should probably watch the rest of the video before commenting anymore lol
@CUSE315SYR
@CUSE315SYR 7 месяцев назад
Syracuse should be in big 10
@jexes23
@jexes23 Год назад
Since the #’s in 2036 will be different than right now, by quite a bit, this is jumping the gun. While the SEC and Big10 will be far ahead of everyone else, the SEC will actually separate further from the Big10. If the ACC is up for grabs, here’s what happens: The SEC will get whoever they want. Then The Big 10, then The Big12, then whoever’s left out of that….. who knows?
@vernonsheldon-witter1225
@vernonsheldon-witter1225 Год назад
I rather think all the ACC schools will find P5 homes.
@Patrick-sg7cm
@Patrick-sg7cm Год назад
​@@vernonsheldon-witter1225 Boston College, Syracuse, and Wake Forest would likely end up in the AAC
@careyconley4690
@careyconley4690 11 месяцев назад
Not sure why you think the SEC will "separate" itself from the B1G and get whoever they want. The B1G is national, and worth more $. The SEC is a regional/southern conference. The B1G has bigger resources and a better argument to join them, but in the end, it will be THE SCHOOLS' decision where they go, not the conferences.'
@Gh0stRider
@Gh0stRider Год назад
Why do you assume the B1G, or any of the three conferences you mention would stop at picking up 4 ACC schools? The SEC has schools that are not in NFL markets - why would they now take Miami? Also, can FL block FSU or Miami? Can SC block Clemson? Can KY block Louisville? TX A&M could not block TX, but we're told that was a different set of circumstances.
@RoscoPColtrane17
@RoscoPColtrane17 10 месяцев назад
ACC should boycott the bowl games
@redxraider0613
@redxraider0613 Год назад
Sec will take Clemson, FSU, NC, and Virginia
@Lucys_Power_Hours
@Lucys_Power_Hours Год назад
A division of cincy, wvu, pitt, vt, Louisville, Syracuse….oh wait…bring back big East football?
@petion2013
@petion2013 9 месяцев назад
FSU and Miami bring no advantage to the SEC. Virginia and would be a much better fit in the Big-10
@mikejohnson9586
@mikejohnson9586 9 месяцев назад
Florida State and Clemson to the SEC is possible. The SEC is not interested in Miami. It would too many Florida schools.
@midwestboxing4415
@midwestboxing4415 Год назад
Stop it, your over thinking it. They won't take all them bum ACC football schools to split a big pot
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 Год назад
~02:09 Why do people predict contrary to credible reporting, some recent? At least explain why you differ. The SEC has no interest in MIAMI (a 3rd in Florida), especially over options North Carolina or Virginia (new states in the footprint). The BIG12 is clearly the option of last resort, right or wrong, rational or not. Why would some ACC remainders prefer the Tier 2 BIG12 over a rebuilt peer Tier 2 ACC?
@aCycloneSteve
@aCycloneSteve Год назад
Maybe... CU/UA to the XII right now. Then things stabilize & the PAC signs a deal 3-5 years. Then, in 3-5 years the pressure on the ACC get's to great and they open up. The B1G takes UW/UO and 2 from the ACC. The SEC takes 4 from the ACC. The XII have six or 10 spots and starts inviting teams from the PAC/ACC & a G5 or two???
@CharlesFosterMalloy
@CharlesFosterMalloy Год назад
Yep, very possible.
@CharlesFosterMalloy
@CharlesFosterMalloy Год назад
Could be FSU, Clemson, NCSt, OkSt to the SEC. UVA, UNC, MIA, GT to the Big10. SYR, Pitt, Louisville, VaTech, + others to Big12. But ESPN must agree, be included in Big10 this way.
@aCycloneSteve
@aCycloneSteve Год назад
@@CharlesFosterMalloy Why would Oklahoma State be wanted by the SEC? They already have a team in Oklahoma. And if the B1G takes four from the ACC, does that mean they don't ever take UW/UO? (Or ND) IF the B1G does take UW/UO which two of the four from the ACC are now available for the SEC or XII?
@CharlesFosterMalloy
@CharlesFosterMalloy Год назад
@@aCycloneSteve None for now from the ACC, but they could be cutting deals behind closed doors as we speak. Big10 gets none from ACC without ESPN consent. SEC, Big10 going to 25.
@aCycloneSteve
@aCycloneSteve Год назад
@@CharlesFosterMalloy Why would they go to 25? Only ND & maybe Clemson are worth the $80M-$100M that they would get. If they each add nine teams they will lower the average payout and make scheduling even tougher.
@trackguy4038
@trackguy4038 Год назад
Where does Wake Forest go?
@Themadpig
@Themadpig 5 месяцев назад
Mountain West Conference 😂
@jamesrippe65
@jamesrippe65 Год назад
SEC adds Clemson Florida State NC State Va Tech Louisville Ok State Wake North Carolina Big 10 adds Oregon Washington Stanford Cal Miami ND Ga Tech Virginia Big 12 adds Syracuse BC Pittsburgh Duke UConn Memphis Arizona Arizona state Colorado Utah San Diego St Oregon State Washington state 2, 24 school conferences. Schools that will Also be in this talk Tulane, USF, SMU, Boise State
@davidframe1613
@davidframe1613 Год назад
The Big 12 will not take half those teams you mentioned. a lot of them are anti-religion and the Big 12 has multiple religious schools BYU Baylor and TCU. Notre Dame would be a good fit in the Big 12 and they can keep their TV contract.
@Nerfherder7249
@Nerfherder7249 Год назад
In the wake of the PAC-12 imploding, why does this enter the feed?
@d5terps543
@d5terps543 Год назад
The B10/SEC will take 2 each. UM/Clemson/UNC/FSU. ND comes later. The rest will backfill.
@d.fernandosmith4033
@d.fernandosmith4033 Год назад
Miami, NCST, Pitt, and Louisville should go Big 12. GT, VT, UVA, Big 10, SEC Clemson, UNC, FSU, ... Duke, Cuse, Wake, BC go Indy in football Big East bb....
@elliotthoward4738
@elliotthoward4738 Год назад
Bro the big ten will not add bottom feeders outside of UNC no way in hell any other team from the ACC will get in the big before Washington and Oregon the big makes to much money to add weak teams like GT or VT
@blxbrg2169
@blxbrg2169 4 месяца назад
Tech has a pretty good resume, overall. They have fallen off for a bit I know but they bring a great fan base that travel as well as anyone. They play hard nose football. Their recruiting will get better and they bring an atmosphere of confidence. It always crazy to me that people think VT has never been a top 10-15 team for years. They would absolutely bring a lot of value overall good or bad season.
@None-dj8iy
@None-dj8iy Год назад
B1G will get um and FSU!!!
@MrJohnnyBlaise
@MrJohnnyBlaise Год назад
The BETTER OPTION is the ACC Schools should disband and start a new league with a 3-year deal with NBC
@kennunn3060
@kennunn3060 Год назад
The super conference is a myth no conference are going to add teams that are not worth the min gor. They would lower the value by adding teams that are not worth the contract.
@richardsansbury7453
@richardsansbury7453 Год назад
The SEC is not going to have 3 schools in Florida.
@alexnowicki286
@alexnowicki286 Год назад
Norte dame needs to grow up and join the big 10
@Andoverx
@Andoverx Год назад
Calling Duke a true blue blood basketball school... I think you mean a true Duke Blue blood basketball school. Here in NC people bleed light blue or dark blue and those two blood types do not mix!
@turc9808
@turc9808 Год назад
Nc state makes no sense for sec you're out of touch
@andrewgoldsmith712
@andrewgoldsmith712 Год назад
I think the Sec would consider Fsu and Clemson
@paulgee8113
@paulgee8113 9 месяцев назад
VT and louisville need to go to the Big 12
@berniebrown9115
@berniebrown9115 Год назад
Grayson just a guess. An educated guess but just a guess
@ryanr6240
@ryanr6240 9 месяцев назад
You were prescient.
@BB-uu9oo
@BB-uu9oo Год назад
Miami isn't coming to the SEC.
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