This is NOT a Onewheel // VESC TRAIL TESTING

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After a bunch of city VESC testing, it's time we take it out to the trails! Join Jeff, Bodhi, and the rest of the crew as they put the VESC to the ultimate dirt test in Lake Tahoe, California.
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@thewheelneil1379 Год назад

TFL trail sessions are always 🔥.

@surfdado Год назад

Haha, very impressive seeing you perform like this using only the most basic features of the firmware, I have so many comments I don't even know where to start - next ride I need to come along!! But either way, it's very exciting to see you enjoying your VESC!

@Go.el_Hadam Год назад

Appreciate all the work you and other are putting into developing the firmware.

@thirtythreeeyes8624 Год назад

I don't know much about pid controllers but, could you run a separate loop for front and back tilt or maybe a dynamic pid for the back end letting you set a few degrees of softer pids when it tilts back? Then you could have a stiff front but, softer back fixing what was mentioned at 5:40.

@AlbertoNoys Год назад

Dado, please. Meet with Jeff to discuss all of your comments and his feedback and record it! There's a community eager to watch you guys talk about VESC and learn in the process.

@deanaoxo Год назад

This time 1,000!

@VESCmann Год назад

I was about to say the same but unfortunately it's harder for me to be there for the next session. We love to try some trails like that with you guys

@tracycrews6644 Год назад

It would be cool to have an “updated” rep your set series to see how your board choices have evolved.

@EdwardCoplinBatman Год назад

If I worked at a tv store I would play this video on all the merchandise. Gorgeous.

@nicoaleman Год назад

Those issues you're having with maintaining speed into uphills (and just general teetery-ness) are MUCH better if you set your Yaw P to a higher value like 0.6. Basically (from my understanding), this tells it to start pumping more power once you start pushing down the nose no matter the angle, a lot more like an actual Onewheel, rather than not doing much until the nose goes below level and digging the nose in. Really helps for maintaining momentum and just makes the board feel way more solid and predictable IMO 👌 Stoked to see yall putting it through the paces out there

@TheFloatLife Год назад

Shoot man, I would LOVE to have a higher Yaw P! That dang light saber issue though :/

@nicoaleman Год назад

@@TheFloatLife I know man, really hope we can get that sorted sooner than later, wish I could just fly out to help yall in person lol

@notsure6070 Год назад

@@TheFloatLife light saber?

@uyle5810 Год назад

Controllers are stuck on a ship somewhere but once I get em they’ll go in the mail.

@nicoaleman Год назад

@@notsure6070 Some obscure issue where increasing a certain parameter is causing light Saber like noises in the motor and super sketch behavior. We haven't figured out what exactly the issue is, but its super uncommon, only seen it on two boards

@theimstorm689 Год назад

Just loving this footage 👍not the Jeff falling part, but the way it was filmed, the dust flying, trail rippin'... Epic 🤙

@TheFloatLife Год назад

Thank bodhi for the camera work

@theimstorm689 Год назад

@@TheFloatLife Thanks bud...Bod...Bodhi bud...The Buddy Of The People!!! Ok normal words.... appreciate it Bodhi, I really like the "this is how the Onewheel sees it footage. Like when there is an incline and the camera is filming really low to the ground while the dirt from the front rider is flying, so good 🤙 Also, I think you need at least 3 or 4 Norad state-of-the-art drones, otherwise, how are you suppose to film? 🤷‍♂Jeff is probably already ordering those 😅

@deanaoxo Год назад

I can usually tell when it’s Bodhi, he’s so into it, disciplined, focus, not talking, nailing the shot! Loved this group ride, whew, to go on one of these, wow.

@VESCmann Год назад

Wow 😍 awesome first trail session on vesc! Nice to see you tweaking the shape a little. It would be interesting to see how you'd perform with one of my ATR shapes. Keep it up!

@TheFloatLife Год назад

ATR testing coming soon. Daddo getting us hooked up

@ed_boogie Год назад

You know Vesc is going to get substantial momentum when TFL is on “board”. I was thinking of selling my 4209, but I have my reserve since the tfl has been releasing these Vesc videos. I have a feeling they have something in the works. Also it’s entertaining to see Jeff’s feedback.

@Onechrisscott Год назад

Can we have a gimbal following the gimbal whilst following Jeff? It’s madness how you don’t fall off more too.

@TheFloatLife Год назад

Bodhi on a board with a camera rig is a thing of beauty.

@gettingtheshot Год назад

🫡❤️

@anthonyfryer742 Год назад

Best video outside yet... Butter baby...

@MaxxSend Год назад

Nice rip, earning your vesc stripes!! 😆 Load the Madd Max 84V Trail Beast tune card settings and try it again yee 🤟🏻

@TheFloatLife Год назад

Let’s go!

@TimmyB_TV Год назад

These trails look like so much fun, great riding as always

@slimdog72 Год назад

Love watching Jeff rip. Great job as usual Bodhi for the smooth vid. Time to start investing some R&D money in some kevlar panties. PS my aloe in looking like yours after 7 years. It lives next to my girl friends aloe which has tried to commit suicide by jumping off the shelf a few times but is doing way better than mine.

@Burnerzcrew Год назад

Surfdado x Floatlife trail shredding / tuning sesh video must happen ❤️

@FriendlyMint Год назад

What a way to end the summer with the boys,the trails under 2 ft of cold white stuff now!

@Slirp07 Год назад

i just sent my board in for a controller repair now I feel like I should have got a vesc

@tracycrews6644 Год назад

I’m in the same boat

@deemontes7265 Год назад

GT? Mine just got fixed a couple weeks ago also

@Slirp07 Год назад

@@deemontes7265 XR

@deemontes7265 Год назад

@@Slirp07 oh dang. How much are they charging for that ?

@Slirp07 Год назад

@@deemontes7265 I think 275$ ish

@psydwayze Год назад

I’m jealous of y’all’s lifestyle and I want to be your adult adopted son

@FriendlyMint Год назад

That floatlifestyle!!!!

@psydwayze Год назад

@@FriendlyMint More like the “my work IS my play, floatsyle”

@gettingtheshot Год назад

🤣🤣❤️

@Luso___ Год назад

What a crazy trail to bring that on first time for sure

@drumstickscarecrow Год назад

Incline Flume on the GT was rough business last time I tried it... And apparently I was on the "easy section" of that trail. You guys handled that shiz like a boss 🤙

@raymondburkitt2636 Год назад

Jeff is an insane rider! 🙂That was awesome!

@seventhapex Год назад

Jeff, you're a madman.

@paulus_germanus Год назад

Jeff is one of the most lovable human beings on the planet 🤘🤘🤘

@TheFloatLife Год назад

😘

@noelleonard2498 Год назад

Almost getting euc type speed out of that thing.

@brettnordstog Год назад

Looks like it's time to go VESC! Got my varials and enduro right after my board died - RIP

@VinieVizzleVlog Год назад

If you have trail marks on your nose you know it was a good session 😄🤙🔥

@timothysterlingmcknight Год назад

Jeff u a rider 🔥💯🤘🤞 water the aloe from the bottom 🫵

@notsure6070 Год назад

microbiotics can help as well. u have to support the ecosystem around the roots.

@deemontes7265 Год назад

ScabSquad fer surrrrre!!

@TheFloatLife Год назад

Scabsquuuuaaaaddddd

@Later_Nerd Год назад

Hey Jeff, what kind of wrist guards you rolling with these days man? Have been thinking about getting into some proper trail riding and I feel like wrist protection is definitely the smart call off road.

@TheFloatLife Год назад

F(x)nction for sure thefloatlife.com/collections/safety-gear/products/shredder-wrist-guards-fxnction

@Later_Nerd Год назад

@@TheFloatLife thanks I like the design on those and the price is reasonable. Might have to give them a go.

@sylrider 8 месяцев назад

You guys need to sale full VESC boards like Floatwheel!

@me_josh Год назад

That was dope

@davegalanie Год назад

Jeff are you sick or just so stoked you’re short of breath ? 🤙🏼🤙🏼 #vesc

@tommypoor2695 Год назад

i like the VESC a lot but i think VESC are better built for tricks and street riding. More Gt and Pint x content please. you are the best

@MikeDIY Год назад

Sounds like they need to program "tail drag detection" into VESC, something like if it tail drags for 1-2 seconds tilt forward to kick the rider out of it. Sick video!

@MikeDIY Год назад

@surfdado

@brodyport6395 Год назад

@@MikeDIY He pretty much already got it on lock with ATR 23 I believe

@MikeDIY Год назад

@@brodyport6395 Is ATR 23 a vesc firmware build #?

@thirtythreeeyes8624 Год назад

5:40 I wonder if someone could do something like separate pids for front and back tilt. A really stiff front and soft back would be nice.

@nicoaleman Год назад

I've been wanting to experiment with this for a while, it's on the to-do list of things to try for sure!

@thirtythreeeyes8624 Год назад

@@nicoaleman I feel like it could help a lot for quick bumps like on a pump track but, might increase tail drags. Maybe a dynamic pid setting that you can set the angle for.

@Ctec87 Год назад

Man that looks nice. I'm from the UK so this looks like the way to go for me. No chance i'm buying a product that I have to ship back to America jsut to be repaired.

@Floatworld Год назад

This is awesome, how do I turn my xr in to a vesc??

@CopenhagenOnewheelers Год назад

what size of that jacket are you wearing Jeff?, i believe we are about same size and im torn between the medium and large, and are you wearing pads in this video?, hard to see but i guess thats good :))

@TheFloatLife Год назад

I’m 6’ 165lbs and wear the medium without pads. I go large of I want a hoodie underneath

@eldany_uy Год назад

Great vid as usual! What camera are you guys using in this vid? Cheers from Uruguay!

@TheFloatLife Год назад

Black magic rig was down from a battery issue so we rocked the R5 on a gimbal.

@jtom87 Год назад

Where can I score those sunglasses??? Great vid btw! 🔥🔥🔥

@TheFloatLife Год назад

Ombraz

@Dan-Martin-2 Год назад

Where in Tahoe is this? this is awesome.

@aurelienglt6705 Год назад

Hey, some dummy question from a none Onewheel user (yet) : Why don't you use some "Flightfins" fender for trail ? I suppose they would be an amazing update to increase control of the board. Awesome video ! Thanks.

@TheFloatLife Год назад

Different strokes for different folks! Fins are great for some things, But we usually prefer to ride without them

@cache5529 Год назад

Is this a 84v or stock pack?

@TheFloatLife Год назад

Stock pack on this one. Getting an 84v pack soon. Our original build was an 84v pack, but that was on old firmware and was pretty sketch.

@cache5529 Год назад

@@TheFloatLife looking forward to seeing some of that!!!

@richcoastbrooks8601 Год назад

I grow aloe year round (in Costa Rica) It likes humidity , don’t water it too much, and only a few hours of direct sunlight per day. Let me know if you have any questions. I know we have different climates but I know what works for my healthy aloe plants

@coreytheecorey4056 Год назад

How do I learn about vesc… looking for a source to deep dive on…. Thank you

@JCRVS541 Год назад

This might be a dumb question, but i have a gt and ive put lightning rails and made it just how i like but have recently been looking into vesc. Are they working on making a compatible one for the GT? Or trying to figure out the battery bricking situation.

@MrDmadness Год назад

Vesc is not at all onewheel affiliated. If your gt bricks, toss vesc controller in there and you're now running a vesc

@surfdado Год назад

you can put a VESC into a GT today, a couple GTV's out there already - but it's a lot more on the DIY side still, it's not plug and play by any means

@redboyjan Год назад

Sent 🤙🏼

@fallofshadows2209 Год назад

So if you were saving money for a new board (upgrading from original pint) would you lean toward buying a used XR to turn into a VESC, or go for a GT?

@brodyport6395 Год назад

I don't know that I would go for a full running XR if you are 100% sure that you want to vesc it. Unless you want to enjoy it stock for a bit before going that route. Rather the cheaper alternative would be tp just nab a hub and start building away

@MrDmadness Год назад

I'd just get a fesc and toss it in the pint..

@AukaiAugustus Год назад

Crazy how the vesc has thier own custom shapping and everything and even made a board of their own and still FM hasn't released custom shapping 😮‍💨

@Mr-eGolf Год назад

Vote 🗳️

@mariuswegmann5500 Год назад

Mission tune card when? =)

@maddmikemu Год назад

I wonder if VESC data logging during the ride might show what's happening when you feel it lose it and drop the tail? Maybe it was exceeding the max regen setting or other other limit setting that could be increased. And Wow! Amazing skills riding that trail! 👀

@nicoaleman Год назад

It's not that the tail is dropping, but moreso that when the tail drags (which is sometimes inevitable regardless of tuning), it looks like it basically gets glued to the ground, accelerating too much to be able to pull out of it. I'm honestly not sure what might be causing this, maybe I and Deadzone (I-limiter) values? I know I haven't experienced that on my tune at all ever since the IMU Filter was introduced.

@TheFloatLife Год назад

I think I might’ve actually figured out what the issue is there. I think it is actually going into reverse super heavy which breaks the traction of the tire causing a heavy fishtail. Kind of like when you lock up your tires on your car and lose control.

@nicoaleman Год назад

@@TheFloatLife Oh shit, that could very well be it, that moon dust is like nothing I've taken my VESC on haha. Noted; hopefully it's something that just goes away once the tune is a bit more dialed but I'm gonna brainstorm potentially ways to dampen that over-response on the landing 🤔 That extra torque can be a trouble maker lol

@surfdado Год назад

@@nicoaleman lol, idk - maybe something like ATR? 😛

@maddmikemu Год назад

@@TheFloatLife ah hah, that makes sense. Almost like the FM Simplestop "bug" where wheelslip during braking triggers it, except in this case it also uses the reverse pitch to accelerate into reverse instead of just braking like Simplestop. The wheelslip is the key to it happening in both cases.

@agyas23 Год назад

cool video. i am suprised about the tail drag, my friend has a vesc and his is always in level. that's one of the reason i want it. maybe just some tuning needed

@MrDmadness Год назад

Taildrag IS BECAUSE it's always level. You and tip the nose down like ow. It eetroys ow I every other way though

@agyas23 Год назад

@@MrDmadness sorry i don't understand any of this

@MrDmadness Год назад

@@agyas23 when the slope angle changes, a level board will nose dig or tail drag, you don't want ridged level platform, you want a bit of dead zone

@agyas23 Год назад

@@MrDmadness i mean by level that it's always flat. always looks like it not digging or dragging the tail. just rock solid straight every jump

@MrDmadness Год назад

@@agyas23 yeah and that is its issue, it only becomes a problem for decent or in quick slope transitions

@Sivartly Год назад

Jeff - pardon if you've answered this a billion times, but what shades are those?

@TheFloatLife Год назад

Ombraz

@DSC1320 Год назад

What battery are you using in this board

@TheFloatLife Год назад

Stock

@DSC1320 Год назад

@@TheFloatLife would a cbxr battery perform much better?

@surfdado Год назад

@@DSC1320 it wouldn't really perform better, just longer

@DSC1320 Год назад

@@surfdado much respect. I wish u lived closer I'm on the east coast. I'm excited for the vesc adventure. Indy speed control can build me a 84v battery with an internal or external bms. I'm 230lbs and even the GT just doesn't offer me enough power. Do you think a vesc will be better for me? I'm not a big trick guy, much like you I just love exploring and going miles.. again much respect 🙏

@me_josh Год назад

So jealous

@andredied Год назад

Why the flack on the GT? I was convinced into buying one when I already have an XR and TFL hates on it along with others but there must be valid complaints

@nicoaleman Год назад

A higher, more unstable platform, less clearance, proprietary 6.5" rim, footpads that some love but some hate, a less developed ecosystem of aftermarket products, and non-existant repairability are the big things. Don't get me wrong, many people absolutely love the GT. I'm a smaller dude, and I can't stay on the damn thing, it's just too tippy for me. So I raced on XR all year, but the power just wasn't there when I needed it to be. So VESC opens up greater power potential into the XR platform that I already know and love. Jeff and Jake are in a similar boat, not being a fan of how the GT rides and sticking to XR, so it makes sense that they are interested in VESC.

@TheFloatLife Год назад

Nico nailed it

@MrDmadness Год назад

Gt. 1. Overheats 2. No custom shaping. 3. Bad q.c 4. Shit tires ( except Enduro, but stil, personally not a fan ) 5. Badly programmed 6. Locked to battery. .. there's so much more

@andredied Год назад

@@nicoaleman thank you for the response 👊🏼

@andredied Год назад

@@MrDmadness I’ve heard of the GT overheating. My question is what happens to the board when this happens. Does it notify you and give you time to hop off or does it just cut off?

@tdubmaui Год назад

No ATR firmware on that one?

@surfdado Год назад

those guys were roughin' it on pretty much stock firmware 😂

@tdubmaui Год назад

Yikes, that sounds rough.😢 Let’s start a GoFund me to afford them a dedicated firmware and tune consultant as well as a beefier battery!

@nicoaleman Год назад

@@tdubmaui Don't tempt me to drop out of college and fly out to Cali, I'll do it 🤣

@tdubmaui Год назад

@@nicoaleman It might be worth it. jk

@TheFloatLife Год назад

Nico, we’ll see you first thing Monday for your new internship.

@MrDmadness Год назад

Ime vesc absolutely destroys onewheel in every way except going DOWN a trail. It drags tail there often.

@tristanisapokemonmas Год назад

What trail is this…?

@TheFloatLife Год назад

🤫

@travisharvey4439 Год назад

So so sicc

@growingupisatrap6688 Год назад

I can't hold back any longer Jeff, I gotta tell you off for always using a helmet with such a loose chin strap. That ain't never staying on in a heavy spill. Now go and sit in the corner and only come back when you're ready to say sorry! Apart from that another great video boys, yew 🎉

@TheFloatLife Год назад

Don’t tell me how to live my life mom!

@growingupisatrap6688 Год назад

@@TheFloatLife less of the back chat son!

@sarnford Год назад

I tried but I’m about VESCed out now. Lots of attention on something for at best

@thirtythreeeyes8624 Год назад

Less than 2%, I think you're underestimating the future of VESC onewheels. I would guess the reason they're making videos on it is because VESC is getting to the point where it rides really good and more attention on it is just going to drive that many more people towards it allowing the community to grow and get even better. Plus it seems like there's a lot of riders sick of FM's business practices.