THIS IS NOT The Best Daily Trainer Of 2024 - Nike Pegasus 41 FIRST RUN 

Great point and I think you’re spot on. Yes they look really good, and the upper feels good too… definitely fashionable! Shame about the midsoles and everything else!

You need to try the Vomero then. Not a more comfortable shoe.

@@Trailcat2024 I’ve been wanting to try it and been eyeing the sales

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You make a good point Tim… wishing the Pegasus wasn’t a Pegasus… but don’t you think it’s weird how it’s possibly one of the only shoes in a long run if versions that’s never really had a big facelift? I can only think of the Clifton that’s never changed drastically? Otherwise this has just been poor updates year after year… in my opinion 😉

@@TheFODRunner I found a picture I had of some Pegs from 2001 and for sure they were different then. Might well be remembering through rose tinted glasses but they felt more like a "racer trainer" in that version. A few versions later they had changed to be more of a plodder and I gave up on them until more recent years when clearly had settled on the current use case. As for shoes not changing much then perhaps the Brooks Ghost but I note you said the 16 was better for you than the 15 which I kind of had similar thoughts about to your Peg 41 ones! Maybe also something like a Kayano is a shoe that I consistently thought (or hoped) would ever need to use but it does seem modern stability shoes aren't the stiff heavy bricks they used to be. I can recall plenty of times when I liked a version of a shoe only for the next one to be somewhat different. Nike with a few versions of the Zoom Elite I can recall either loving or largely hating version to version. adidas did same with versions of the Boston. I guess in recent years shoes like the Speed and Novablast have been "fairly" similar over 4 versions. Is the Kinvara (which never tried) another one that has stayed largely consistent. I've just spotted a Peg 35 to hand and picking it up, it looks very similar to the more recent ones but the midsole (Cushlon I presume) feels very firm just pressing it and the stack looks noticeably less than now and many "complain" they now have ground feel. Could be a video in its own right as shoes have clearly changed a lot since about 2018-9 even if maybe sometimes we perhaps think they haven't. Always remember when the Clifton 1 got rerealeased due to "popular" demand it seems nobody really actually liked it as much as they thought they did. Remember when the Novablast 1 came in it seemed "radical" as was fairly soft high stack. When I tried that on again recently it actually felt relatively firm!

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The next Pegasus Turbo (Plus Ithink ?) better have a bit more stability them the first two versions, and the weight got to be far below 250g at size 8 UK. Otherwise it will be obsolete against the competition these days and will be ,probably, the most expensive as well. Unfortunately the Zoom X is not that amazing anymore, at least with the non high performance running shoes ...

Absolutely agree

I don’t think that Pegasus was designed as a gym shoe.

@@proudbacteria1373 Not literally squatting/deadlifting. More taking them out and about, shops, walk, to the gym etc

The amount of hate the Pegasus gets from RU-vidrs is crazy. The Pegasus has always been a classic daily trainer, designed to do just a little bit of everything. You don’t need a massive amount of stack under your shoe for daily training. Not enough pop? It’s not a tempo shoe. This guys review is completely bias and has probably never ran in a pegasus. True Pegasus fans will love this model. It’s not designed to be a super shoe. People expect so much out of a shoe now and days, you want it to do the running for you…

@@iGo0gIe appreciate the feedback 👊 it’s my 3rd Pegasus… I’ve had the 36/37 and now the 41. All of them have been pretty lifeless, I don’t need all the stack, I’ve got plenty of shoes like this that I use that are better in most ways. And it’s really only the midsole that’s poor, the rest of the shoe is pretty decent… just really looking for Nike to develop something a bit better than react or react x!

Absolutely, far better options!

If you want your legs to do all the work, peg is your go to

Yeah I think it sells millions to more of a hybrid market than a pure running market… I can’t see, with all the other shoes out there, why runners would chose this when there’s so many better options

Yeah it’ll always divide opinion, and I can understand why… but it’s definitely not for me

Get the wide version lol. People fail to realize, nike shoes comes in WIDE

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Really? That’s a shame! Yeah I was really surprised how tight it ended up being, never had that in a Nike shoe before!

Isn't Nike known for their narrow shoes? I can't use them

@@Micke12312 it’s not the width that’s the issue in this case, it’s the length

@@TheFODRunner Yes exactly! Length or like the 35 Turbo is the height or pointy toebox design. It’s tricky because at the forefoot level like pinky toe area we can say it’s even little bit wider than P39/40 but then or it tapers or I don’t know…

Yes absolutely, would love too! Loved my old turbo!

Let somebody else buy it and if it's not garbage than Andy will buy it and review it. The guy spends his own cash, he can't review all the crap brands come up with 😂

That makes perfect sense 👊

Stick with the triumphs!

If you want something equal to a Triumph , get a Vomero 17. Best feeling shoe Nike makes and more comfy than a Triumph anyway.

Give the vomero 17 a shot its a great shoe and i rotate it with the endo speed

Yeah I think the peg changed around the 34/35 and not for the better… maybe by the 49 it’ll be better again! I wish adidas sizing was good for me… mainly because I do enjoy their shoes too!

If I can return these, yes probably

@@TheFODRunner The SL 2 is fantastic for the price, a bit narrow though, not as bad as the Velocity but still

Hoka Mach 6, saucony triumph 21/22, saucony endorphin speed 3/4…. ASICS novablast, puma velocity nitro 3

yeah, i dunno - i just got the adidas SL2 for $95 from adidas directly, and that shoe is a daily trainer w/ a slab of lightstrike pro (their supershoe foam) that runs the full length of the shoe. for a “cheap shoe,” the peg just feels like a bad value; it doesn’t even necessarily clear shoes that are 30-40% cheaper than its MSRP.

The Pegasus turbo 😍

Yeah I think you made a good choice

Is the SL 2 better?

Oh my gosh… so it does! And I even said that in the review of the shoe!! My bad, thanks for pointing that out!! Still feels less of a drop than this… 😂

I’m not much of a Nike guy. But the Pegasus really seems to hold them back with their lack of innovation. But I think they have potential. The Vomero seems like a decent premium daily trainer (I have not tested). Invincible has potential to be a solid shoe with a few tweaks and if they don’t screw it up the Turbo 2 that should be coming out also has promise.

Be happy you didn't buy more pair. The outsole aged very bad. Tearing behind the airpod on my last few pairs after a couple runs.

@@davidh5429 My 1st pair are at 1100km, and still going. 2nd pair are at nearly 700KM and still feel new. 3rd pair have only been used on key long runs, so they are at about 140km. For my footstrike the Tempo Next% has been king, nothing has compared as a versatile uptempo trainer.

Yes they’re definitely keeping the heart and soul of the shoe going, same geometry : setup as all the previous versions… sadly I just find it poor!

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Although they are a great running shoe, I am enjoying the saucony ride 17 at the moment

last decent pegasus was 34 - 2018 version. Ever since they redesign the heel....major heel slippage and materials has gotten cheaper.

I know right! I’ve just been told it’s 24mm with 3mm lugs, which is the 27

Thanks buddy

I don’t blame you…

I would, got for it 😉

I remember doing a video on my vomero 15 and saying at the time “this is the shoe that the Pegasus should be”

Loved my vomero 15, really enjoyed them. Not spectacular in any way but a very decent shoe

@@TheFODRunner I don’t know why it is so overlooked by reviewers. It’s a good daily trainer and it’s getting pure zoomX midsole in the last 3 iterations. I really like it.

In glad that you like it buddy 👊 as you say, it’s so individual when it comes to these things, you can probably tell that from my shoe choices in general! 1) makes sense on the stack if they include the lugs… it definitely doesn’t feel like 27mm foam! 2) I disagree on that one… but also it’s not a strong argument because I guess it’s a brands choice, but most of the other brands evolve their shoes in some way and bar a few exceptions, we’ve seen some radical changes shoe models over the years… mainly down to listening to feedback. My bugbear with Nike is they seem to take no user feedback on board, when people have been screaming out for a change for years. You can tell that from all the other comments on the video so far. 3) agree - there is a place for it and in a daily I also enjoy “you do the work and not the shoe”, there shouldn’t be a plate in a daily trainer. I take that mindset into my vo2 workouts, hence why I use the Kinvara 14… low stack, no plate, you do the work 👊 4) Intersting - id say that I don’t see any European runners or American runners repping the pegs, they tend to do structure , vomero , invincible… so Japan stands on its own there 😂 5) never tried the infinity run… so can’t comment but I know a fair few people use it in their rotation and it feels like Nike market this heavily for running as opposed to lifestyle. Much respect buddy, I’m glad you enjoy them! We shall agree on some and disagree on others! 😀

@@TheFODRunner I think the new tier structure Nike is moving into (standard/plus/premium) will allow them to push the core models and “innovate” while leaving the base model unchanged. Theoretically it’s the best of both worlds there. We will see how it works in practice. I do think there has been subtle iteration on the Pegasus since the 36. It’s never radical, but it’s there. I do agree that it has a totally different set of product goals than the race shoes Nike does.

I suppose the question is, if they didn't have to run in a Nike for training because of their sponsorship, would any of them a) run in the Peg, b) run in a Nike?

@@SagasuRunning What I don’t understand with you (or you work for Nike) is : why do you always need to come and defend Nike? And sorry but yours arguments about : Natural shoes etc. don’t make sense… if people need this they go barefoot or with minimalist… The FACT is Nike last 4 years has always made heavier, big chunky brick shoes! Last real shoes was VF1/2 (sorry not the 3 you defend like crazy) and Turbo 1/2 or P39 (sorry not the 40 you defend because it’s basically the same shoes BUT havier…).

@@fergusdenoon1255 racing shoes, they’re right up there… daily training? Hmmm

I do, glad the message was clear 😉 😂

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I agree 👌

Nope 😂

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A lot of people overpronate, some more than others 👌 I’ve always worn neutral shoes for 10 years and they’ve been fine, including older versions of this shoe

He’s a great guy! We disagree on this one, but that’s the joy of these things being so individual 👊

I can't take that guy seriously.. He's so Nike biased it's unreal

@@macewindex564 He’s done some good reviews on other brands recently which I appreciate. But yes, he’s definitely a big time Nike fanboy.

@@sschwen8050 Yeah I mean I like the guy but my shoe tastes don't align with his

@@macewindex564 Ditto

Hmmm… I think if you look across the lineup from all the brands in the market, they’re all offering better shoes in your “typical daily shoe” realm… don’t get me wrong, it’s all personal so I appreciate my view won’t be shared by everyone… but judging by the comments, I’m most definitely not on my own 😂

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Yeah I would wait for a radical transformation of the shoe, if that ever happens

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