Armando PLEASE use the 5Dmk2 in a comparison video, image quality with one of your cinema cameras, or record one of your regular videos using the 5Dmk2
I will always love the 5D Mark II . I bought it (for video) right before they updated the firmware that allowed manual exposure for video( maybe 10 years ago?) Once the firmware was released, the floodgates of creativity opened up! This camera reignited my passion for video production when it was released. I remember almost loosing a good gig because I showed up with a photo camera to a video shoot! 😅. The producers freaked out on me . Then they saw the footage and their mouths dropped! On that same project, the editors at the network called me wanting to know what camera did I use, because they were blown away by the look of the footage they were working with. Tough camera too! I traveled the world shooting different projects in very challenging environmental conditions. I may buy another and play around with the ML software. Thanks for sharing!
Wow.. thanks for making this video, two weeks ago I just boxed up my 5d2 to get it ready to sell because I was done with it after 12 years... it's still sitting in my garage and I think you just made it an easier sell.
I think the 5.6K raw is only limited to 3.8fps is because of the slow compact flash slot on the camera. If I remember it correctly, the compact flash card slot on 5D mark iii is only 100MB/s and SD card slot is 80MB/s, but I am also trying to install this magic lantern on (my dad's) 5D mark iii though and compare the image to my own ZCAM E2-F6, very exited to see the results.
I remember checking out ML when I was upgrading from my 5DIII a few years ago. At that time I just didn't want to pull the trigger and risk potentially bricking my ONLY camera - but given that a 5DII is only $500... 🤔 Thanks for the inspiration, man!
Yes Armando! the 5D2 was my first ever camera that got me into filmmaking! It's the absolute bare bones of pro camera today. I still use one as a back up and for personal projects
Details like max frame rate and resolution that can be achieved should be included. It is quintessential and few footage from either side of the band will be much more informative.
It was an exciting time! It catapulted a lot of us into large sensor cinematography. It was finally affordable and accessible. Philip Bloom was our guide . I remember when I would email him for gear advice and get a response in about an hour. Yup, a different time.
I remember when this RAW capability with ML came out back in 2013, back then i was a broke film student and could only afford a 50$ card that could do 1920x880 RAW and the camera got so damn hot lol. Still got my 5d mkII..feeling like trying this out again now that memory cards are faster and affordable. Not enough people knew about this!!
I remember in 2009 my neighbor was a very successful photographer and I remember him scrolling through pictures and a video popped up and I was like wtf you shot that with this!? I had never seen someone shoot video that had shallow depth of field, and this guy didn't really shoot video he was just messing around with his 5D2. It really did change everything, being able to get the cinema look for $2500 was just unheard of. I had a Canon Vixia at the time that I thought was cool and got rid of it for a T2i right away and got a 5DII a few months later.
It's June 2020 and just bought a 2nd hand 5Dii, like brand new only 7k clicks (2nd hand prices are now fabulous ... great value for money). I have tested it for a few weeks under various conditions such as low-light/sun/rain/indoors/outdoors etc and the 5DMK2 this a VERY capable camera in the right hands. I'm mainly a stills-image shooter who shot for around 25 years (pre-digital as well) and I have very little interest in video, so I'm looking forward to use it for many years to come and even use it for some paid jobs. I'm not shooting sports and don't need exceptional crazy frame rates. Auto focus is good enough if you use the center spot only and I also find RAW files up to ISO 3200 to be good enough to sell to wedding clients if you use good lenses (might need a SLIGHT noise reduction in Lightroom on a few occasions). Normally its only photographers who pixel-peep, clients are more focused on moments and emotions instead of technicality. Also, try to put some outside perspective into our consumer society where we are tricked into getting new gear/upgrades all the time. It was not that long ago Professionals used EOS-D1 for their corporate work and created fantastic images displayed on large billboards. The list-price for D1 on release was around 6500 Dollars even though the resolution was a meagre 4 MegaPixel only, but still photographers managed to generate fantastic photos on such small resolution. Some of the best + most historical images we seen are pre-digital, taken using a camera which literally was a box with a piece of glass in the front without any technology. Today people are buying cameras that are more powerful than the computer that took humanity to the moon in the 1960s... AND they cost as much as a second-hand car!!!! Even so, we often still see generic photos that could have been taken with any consumer camera. So looks like we don't need better more expensive gear, we need better photographers ... we have become so lazy with too much "auto" expectations.
I believe this cam didn't have 24 fps when it was released. It came via firmware a little later. We shot a lot of jobs with the Rebel T2i and the 5d Mark II back in the days. Haven't used raw with this cam yet
Canon threatened to sue way back for anything done passed the 5dmk3, they also changed up the way the hack needed to be implemented so much higher rate to BRICK the camera, so ppl were not will to give up 5Dmk4 to try and begin development especially since there is no way to fix it once its fucked
@@nicholasboule5134 ML is available for the 700D and the 70D, both 2013 models, newer than the 5D mk3. Also, work's been done on the 80D, the m50 and probably other newer cameras, but it's not in working condition.
@@nicholasboule5134 Sorry but this is just NOT what they said on Magic Lantern website : Supported cameras: 5D Mark II, 5D Mark III, 6D, 7D, 50D, 60D, 500D/T1i, 550D/T2i, 600D/T3i, 650D/T4i, 700D/T5i, 1100D/T3, EOS M. In progress: 70D, 100D/SL1, 1200D/T5, 450D/XSi, EOS M2, EOS M50. 5D3 1.3.4, 7D 2.0.6, 550D 1.1.0, EOS M 2.0.3. (downloads available, feedback and/or help needed) Porting started: 80D, 200D, 77D, 5D Mark IV, 7D Mark II, 5DS/R (Hello World) 1300D, 2000D, 4000D, 750D, 760D, 800D, 6D Mark II, EOS R, SX70, SX740 (ROM dumpers available)
@@nicholasboule5134 Yeh right... Magic Lantern is being ported on newer cams....both aps-c and full frame models much newer than the 5D mk3 On their website it says Supported cameras: 5D Mark II, 5D Mark III, 6D, 7D, 50D, 60D, 500D/T1i, 550D/T2i, 600D/T3i, 650D/T4i, 700D/T5i, 1100D/T3, EOS M. In progress: 70D, 100D/SL1, 1200D/T5, 450D/XSi, EOS M2, EOS M50. 5D3 1.3.4, 7D 2.0.6, 550D 1.1.0, EOS M 2.0.3. (downloads available, feedback and/or help needed) Porting started: 80D, 200D, 77D, 5D Mark IV, 7D Mark II, 5DS/R (Hello World) 1300D, 2000D, 4000D, 750D, 760D, 800D, 6D Mark II, EOS R, SX70, SX740 (ROM dumpers available)
I'm using ML on my EOS M. it looks great on such a small camera. Now I'm looking for a cheap 5D MK II. Your video answered all my questions about ML on the 5D... Cheers!
@@tothemoon2151 haha.. my comment was 6 months ago. since then I bought 2 5D mark 2's and am very happy... I also bought 2 black magic cameras because I'm addicted to cameras I guess 😂
Bought this as my first "pro" camera in 2017. Once I updated the firmware it was a beast, and the difference between this and the mark iv isn't as wide of a gap as you'd think. Glad to see it getting the recognition it deserves
Gerald Undone shared your channel and wow... that's nice! Already happy to have found your channel. And this video was great... really helpful due to keeping things inside the budget. ))) Thank you ! )))
That camera changed the video world for ever. We were still talking about ground glass just days before. Now interchangeable lenses are a given thanks to it.
I have a 5D mark II that I bought to record RAW footage with. This video explained a lot of the pluses but there are some technical problems you might have to work through before you dial in your process and more limitations than were mentioned here. And one big limitation is heat. If you are inside and are consistently recording takes in RAW, the camera will heat up in only a couple of minutes and you will need some time to let it cool. Out side on a cold day should be fine. But if its hot out you will get the same problem. The file size also caps out at 4GB before the recording will just stop. This only gives about a minute of footage per take. This is a good camera for B roll. Don't think people are shooting full projects using raw on this camera without a LOT of peripheral support.
Love this Armando , I have been tinkering with the 5d a while back, Unfortunately mine decided to die already, but I’m sure the latest ML is even better , man wish mine still works! Great stuff bro 👍
Fantastic video!! You explained Magic Lantern better than most RU-vid videos have and made it seem very approachable, which many RU-vid videos fails to do.
my dad bought the 5D mark II way back 10 years ago and i still use it till now for photos and stills, i bought myself a Canon M50 for vlogging and light weight travel purposes
Armando, Great video! I’ve owned a 5D Mark II since 2010 and I wanna use it as a B camera again, but last I checked (like a month ago) magic lantern raw DIDN’T support 1920x1080 or greater at 24p. Has something recently changed? Can you share what frame rates and raster sizes you’re capturing for full motion video? The captions in your video state 5.6 K or 2.7 K but there’s no indication as to what the frame rate is. THX!
Such a rad video Armando! Crazy to see old tech with new software perform so well. Wish the same developers could go work at Adobe and help them speed up their software lol. Thanks for sharing bro!
Thanks so much! We are working very hard to make that happen! In fact we are working on a whole new platform with improvements and more features as well as both IOS and Android APPs. All coming later this year! 🤘😎
Jimi Can Read Yes! We are currently open to several countries and adding more regularly. FYI, It is up to sellers where they are willing to ship to for each listing. Hope to see you join.
Great Video.. I am planning to Save up for.. Canon R5c.. but Lately i have been looking at the... Canon 5D mark 3... with Magic Lantern.... I want to work with Both.. Photo And Video.. that is why I want Canon R5c... but... Canon 5D Mark 3 with Magic Lantern.. .IS AN INCREDIBLE OPTION...
Only reason i switched from mk2 to mk4 was dualpixel AF and 60p. I have to say that if you dont do video then cameras havent had any significant improvments from the 5dmk2. you can get just as good pictures with a mk2 than any other camera on the market today
That's why I've just bought it. If it was capable of shooting amazing pictures 14 years ago, then it's still able to do it now. Also the resolution is still high by modern standards.
5d2 was my first full frame camera from the t1i and that thing was a beast and it's crazy that it still is after a decade. This means that our cameras now have so much more potential with better software. If only magic lantern could hack the eos R
Magic lantern will not give 5k 24fps movie mode because the sensor readout is really-really slow. But this it is a great option for timelapses, if you can buy a card large enough
Just a heads up, the 5Dii can give beautiful footage but the biggest drawback is by far the rolling shutter. I mean for the price you can’t complain, but the pocket 4K is only $1200 and you can shoot without hack 4k 60p and the rolling shutter is very decent
Great video! You need to be extremely careful with magic lantern. I destroyed one of my 5dmkii by shutting off the camera during operation. Handle magic lantern with extreme care.
You love canon because they held back on these features, most likely on a lot of expensive cameras that could've been included in too? Canon has been ripping people off for years. You love magic lantern, without them you have a good camera but not great. (it was great at its release). I applaud magic lantern since they probably helped pave the way for a lot of affordable cinema quality items we see on the market today. The 5d MKII was about $3000 when it came out and when you look at the video codec it recorded in natively it was god awful (granted it was designed for still and it is still amazing at that. Canon had very little to do with something like this. Also he should be stating the recording times, dropped frame issues, and frame rate limitations at resolutions. For about the same price you can just get an old BMPC 4k, BMCC 2.5k, BMMCC 4K (which shoots 4k 60p), or even the og bmpcc (1080p raw which looks amazing and even looks amazing when superscaled). All of which have no problems recording. This thing will have major limitations on the old compact flash 1.0.
Great video! I love my 5D MK II. Even though it mostly just sits there as the backup to my backup I can't bring myself to selling it. I'll haven't loaded ML on it for years so looking forward to dropping the latest version and having a play this weekend. Thanks again
Would be good to see this review of other mid tier DSLRs with Magic Lantern to get a feel for what is most viable. I'm sure the age of some of these cameras directly effects the potential framerate and resolution you can get.
Did this like 3yrs ago. It’s a little buggy with some dropped frames. Also, there is no flat color profile so it’s a little harder to match color grades IMO. Pretty amazing from an old camera though. I used it on a client shoot but only to grab alternate shots once I knew I had what I needed.
i currently own Canon t7i, been using that for past year. i think i’m ready for a upgrade. i would like to go for mirrorless camera, which one will be ideal for me. $750-$1200 would be my buget. any suggestion guys ? i prefer sony or canon
I would rather spend a little more and buy a used Canon C300 than use aftermarket software on a 12-year-old DSLR. That way I'd have built in ND filters, autofocus and usable audio with XLR inputs. The image from the C300 is captured on one of the best 4k sensors out there. That said, I feel some people get too caught up in buzzwords like 'raw' '4k' '6k' '8k' and 'bitrate' Instead of looking at the actual image you capture. I own a Canon C300 mark ii now, but before this I had the original canon C300 and was always blown away with the images I captured.
@@mondobytes You mean price wise? I can find a good used C300 for a couple grand, and again, it comes with built in ND filters, autofocus and usable built in audio with XLR inputs. Those things would be add ons at an additional cost with an old DSLR.
Wow! Thanks for enticing me to use Magic Lantern again after 7 years! I changed memory cards back in 2013 and never bothered again to install ML as I didn't need much of the features at the time; however, now with 4k video and HDR you got me intrigued! :)
I've been hoping for a while now that they would make something for the 80D, but there hasn't been much development for that camera. Maybe I should look at some other options too.
I doubt you'll see any higher frame rates than that. It's not really an issue of firmware allowing it. It's the recording media interface. Compact flash 1.0 is not fast enough.
Please talk about sony nex vg 900. Is it still relevant today as a fullframe camcorder?? If yes then it would be perfect for me for its size and money😊😊
Something to note if you're considering trying Magic Lantern: The workflow is absolutely PUNISHING. You're min-maxing cost to quality here, convenience and practicality is thrown out of the window the moment you install ML.
@@hi_tamani Yes, not the best idea. It IS useable, and it does produce great results, but in an industry where every second counts, you're just adding unnecessary work yourself. Magic Lantern files aren't usable straight out of the card, you're going to either have to pre-grade then export to pro-res or export to cdng which you will have to grade anyways in your NLE to get the best results. But if you are interested, a Canon EOS M would be a better idea, it's readily available for less than $150 and it has the biggest community and the most stable build, before I switched cams I think the 5k anamorphic raw mode was pretty useable already.
everyone was so tied into the “next camera” like the gh 4/5 and whatever sony put out, that magic lantern canon were completely overlooked. ironic, magic lantern canon WERE the next best thing and still are
