THIS Is The FASTEST Way To Form SUPER GERMANY in Victoria 3 

I honestly really enjoy the major nation formation system in the game and wish we had more of them. The minor nation formations really don't feel special enough to be worth doing.

If I remember correctly there was an attempt by the US to conquer all of Canada and during the Mexican American war there were voices arguing for a full annexation of Mexico. So there is some historical precedent, if I'm not wrong that is.

@@AW-ix5qg There was talk of expanding the Revolution to Canada during the war of 1812, but the Canadians were more or less loyal to the crown (That's where most of the pro british people fled after the revolution) and the battles themselves went poorly. There was some talk in the southern planter class to take over basically all the carribean and mexico to make more slave states to keep the balance of power between slave and free states or maybe tilt things in their favor. That was kinda more out there though. In the 1950s there was talk of eventually the whole world joinnig the US you can find some old Sci-Fi where that's the case.

@@TobyYellsAtThings would you be willing to share your 1843 save file? Possibly a link in the description?

Cant wait for super Hawaii.

Honestly, you probably could. I never thought to try that while making the Strat, but honestly, yeah you probably could.

I also tried it as Prussia but ran into a super unwilling Austria, even at +100 relations and +80 "reasons" to vote for me (which I think is the maximum a Great Power can have?) they just didn't (I guess it's the reason he takes Brandenburg, to knock them down enough so they are willing to join up?) Thankfully it resolved itself since Austria got a huge revolt so I could jump in and help them, losing half their territory and forces to the revolt faction meant they suddenly considered themselves so weak they were willing to join so I fought down the revolt and clicked the Unify button the same day the war ended, kinda fitting to have the Habsburg bow to the Hohenzollern king in Vienna and join Super German Empire after they came and saved their butts from the angry peasant mob :D

Technically the Holy Roman Empire was super germany

Whichever Austrian did this sounds like an epic historical figure who was likely beloved by tens of millions!

@@MrAllanGAHistory will show that he was righteous

@@dingus6317 it already has, IMO

Okay, just did some testing and found out that the ''Cut down to size'' casus belli can be really abused to fully annex Prussia through like 3 wars(which can be ''truce broke'' by attacking other minors and allowing Prussia to try and help them), release Prussia as a puppet, be cut down to size because of infamy above 100 and lose all vassals you've made, and end up with a friendly prussia and 0 infamy. How? Well you'll have to abuse the minors (Anhalt can be conquered and released as a puppet, and then it will gain all of Anhalt, even the prussian parts, same with Brunswick. And also to try and release both Westphalia and Rhineland) in order to not allow Prussia to be returned the lands you took from it. Just continue the aggression and accept about 1-2 cut down to size, until Prussia becomes small enough to be conquered in one war, and then released Prussia before you're cut down to size again. You'll have bad relations with every minor german state, except those you released from Prussia(westphalia, Pommerania, rhineland, Anhalt, Brunswick, but you can just use the Schleswig-Holstein question to get rid of the southern german states. And then use your ''0'' infamy to conquer the minors you need until you got 23 states under your control. I also would abuse the conquering of the saxon minors, as if you're forced to cut down to size again, you can just release one big friendly saxony. Only issue of course is that i tested this quickly with -debug_mode and the mass annexations did result in every other great power hating my guts, so it might be hard to push back their involvement during these wars.

How did u get Russian to like you? Wich version of the game u running? Bcs everysingle restart i got them cautios

I tested that, but I found that if I didn't use it second, I just wouldn't annex all the German minors, and I'd be left with a bunch of small German states.

@@TobyYellsAtThings thankx, I was gonna dwell into it otherwise, as I only ever form Super Germany with Prussia (my best was 1847).

Honestly this guide works for HRE too, you just need to take a few more states.

@@TobyYellsAtThings​would you be willing to share your 1843 save file? Possibly a link in the description?

It's almost essential to release Brandenburg because it causes a much bigger hit to their prestige then releasing Danzig does. The difference is usually in whether they become a major or minor power after the war.

Man, I didn't even notice that.

A combination of waiting for the 1.5 update and college finals.

@@TobyYellsAtThings ok also can you do a a video of Jan Mayen like becoming a great power and taking over countries and territories? Pleaaaaseeee

I suppose once you actually form Germany youre not gonna have any money problems so you can just spam universities, so catchup shouldn't take too long

I noticed sometimes the game will say they won't ally you when they actually will. Check and make sure the numbers actually add up before reloading. Though i will say I had a pretty long stint of them not accepting while making the strat. It's really just inconsistent.

@@TobyYellsAtThings Yeah I unloaded the moss and somehow got all the rng parts right but sadly it took me 2 more years than it took you because Bavaria was cautious of me even though we had +50 relations. I also accidentally allied Baden so when I did the nation formation they didn’t count for it even though they were in my customs Union so I was stuck on 22 out of 23 states for an extra year or so. Great video nonetheless and I could probably do it a lot faster if I tried again with that in mind

As long as you can get them to join your customs union it doesn't matter if they are a major power. The game doesn't allow you to be a German unification candidate if you're a minor power or in someone else's customs union.

I probably could have, but at this point I didn't want to risk another war where a major could get involved and potentially cause the time to take longer. It is absolutely possible though.

Yeah, it's a bit of gamble but if you keep good relations with France, Britain and Russia, you should be fine with anything relating BeNeLux.

It took me about 30 tries to finally get this run to work. Think of it as a theoretical fastest, because the chances of getting all this to work in one run is very small.

In theory Prussia could do it just as fast, but would require a lot more luck to achieve. You would somehow have to reduce Austria to a minor power without them losing all their territory.

@TobiasParadox Couldn't you knock them off as a unification candidate, and if you're feeling you need to, take a high income state (with pre-knowledge) to help knock them down a peg to get Austria to join you? As I'm typing this I'm getting the sense it'd take longer.

You could still do it pretty quickly, I just don't know if you can do it just as fast as you can with Austria. You need to remove them as a potential unification candidate, and the only ways of doing this are to either reduce them to a major power and get them in your customs union or fight them after National identity has happened. The second would unfortunately not be the faster then the Austria path, so your only option is to reduce them to Major pre 1843, you might be able to do this through humiliation wars both before and after your civil war, but then they may not like you enough to support you as a candidate.

I believe it was something added in a recent update. Now when you form Germany you get claims on the other German states.

I will work on it.

Is that to make an alliance or call them into the war as an ally? Because I know they very rarely will let themselves be called as an ally. I was usually able to get them to accept a normal alliance but would go through phases where they wouldn't accept for a good 10 attempts at a time.

I never tried it myself but you could potentially try to fight the war without allying them, then call them with the offer state. I never tried this myself but it could achieve the same results.

the customs union was to get people to support you as the unification candidate, idk if this has been changed or not as I haven't had the time to play this game since school started back.

By the way, you also need to add Shilu Yig-Hemistein, and Luxembourg.

Because I don't have any plans to continue the run once the video is finished recording. If I was going to I'd probably snag railways next.

Honestly not a bad idea, I'll look into it.

Ohh yeah, i was trying that around 50-60 times, and i am very híped to see your idea. thank you@@TobyYellsAtThings

Got a better method?

He is mighty prophet of God. God is one called Alah . Or Elah as Jesus called him in Aramaic language.

@@wadie4682 he is more than a Prophet he was before the time he was before Abraham he is God

Because I don't bother playing the games out if it's just for a specific video