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Good video, Clement Atlee is probably the best PM we ever had, despite all the debt from wartime he did not go down the road of austerity like the Conservatives did or tough fiscal rules like today's Labour did, his government was the most radical and left wing we've had in the UK. They created the NHS, the modern welfare state, building 100,000's of council homes, re-nationalised industry to cut unemployment and lifted millions out of poverty. This led to the post-war consensus until Thatcher ripped it up. Keir needs to be bolder like Atlee to truly benefit the ordinary working class people of the UK.
Starmer isn't in the thrall of Policy Exchange (Sunak) or the IEA (Truss) quote The party confirmed on Friday that Torsten Bell, chief executive of the Resolution Foundation think tank, will be its candidate for Swansea West.
@@peterah7957 I did, it's somewhat reassuring, thanks. I hope it's at least that good this time. Starmer calls it a changed Labour Party, it's just the abusive and undemocratic means by which it was changed that leaves me with so many doubts.
@@peterah7957 yeah right they rolled back all the vile neo liberal american capitalist policies of Thatcher didn't they ? No they didn't tory lite goons
What made all those Labour governments remarkable is that they had truly groundbreaking, revolutionary-for-their-time plans to make the country a better place for the common person. I frankly do not see the same level of ambition coming from Kier Starmer. He keeps saying that we have to set expectations low about what they are capable of achieving because of the damage caused by the Tories, when in fact he should be doing what Attlee's government achieved after the utterly devastating 2nd World War - revolutionary changes for unprecedented times.
Those other Labour governments had not been preceded by 14 years of a Tory government robbing the public purse. IMO I will be very happy if the first term of the next Labour government manages to repair at least some of the damage of the last 14 years. What is your yardstick for success? Another 5 years of the tories?
@@bobjohnbowles Clement Attlee's government - as I mentioned - had to literally pick up the rubble from the second world war. Yet their government was arguably the most revolutionary of them all. Let's not pretend like this will be the first Labour government to be handed a tricky hand.
@@bobjohnbowles Exactly the pitiful mindset being complained about. Labour is about to actually govern and you're preemptively making excuses for them doing little to nothing. But at least they're not the Tories. Well, they practically are after Starmers purges. What a disgrace
@@jugo1944. ….”purges”….thats the language of the extreme left who gifted Corbyn into leadership , whose first act was to support the Tories make working people poorer, remove their rights of protest and remove our freedom of movement. Are you proud of that “achievement “ ?
@bobjohnbowles regardless of the context, we shouldn't have to settle for "at least they're better than the worst", but sadly labour are the only viable option for most voters. Politics needs to change.
Labour have done some amazing stuff over the years, but the current Labour is definitely not like the Labour shown at the start of this video. It's Tories in Labour clothing.
2010... when the economy was in tatters. Labour bailed out northen rock, RBS, Natwest, dropped interest rates near zero. This after 8 years of pointless wars in the middle east. Personal tax allowance was at 5k and minimum wage was £5.80. Yay lets go back to 2010.... no thanks. Vote the Tories out and keep Labour out.
Are you taking the piss, bevan is rolling in his grave you charlatan traitors, the labour party, labour in name only, I come from a long line of trade union working class socialist and my family despises you lot
Voting isn't enough, if you want to see Labour in number 10 we all need to campaign for it. We cannot take a single vote for granted, the power of the media, of high finance, and mega corporations is against us. They can still swing the polls and votes against us yet, we need to keep fighting as though we are behind.
Please dont vote tactically. It's your vote, vote for who you want to win. It's mindsets like this that stop parties like the Lib dems and Greens from winning more seats.
Lib Dem supporters who vote tactically for Labour this time could help achieve an incredible result for the Lib Dems: they could end up as the second largest party & therefore the official opposition. What a fantastic result that would be! 😊😊
Great video. After 14 years of the Tories, everything in this country is worse. Roads full of potholes, 5 hour waits for ambulances, hospitals falling apart, 600+ police stations closed, thousands of police cuts, military cuts, sewage being dumped into our waters, scary outbreaks of vomiting viruses in the tap water supply, visible homelessness up and down the country, food banks everywhere, disabled people who lost their lives due to nasty welfare reforms, unaffordable housing, high prices, political sleeze and corruption - I could go on. NOTHING IS WORKING! Is it any wonder there's a mental health crisis - but rather than address it with compassion - Rishi just wants to scapegoat people by clamping down on Doctors ability to hand out sick notes! I'm not saying Labour are perfect. But the country they left in 2010 was in much better shape than we have today. I am hoping Labour win by a landslide. I can't imagine what a mess we'll be in if the Tories win again.
Ok, lets debunk: 1. The Military was consistently cut under Labour and pushed back up under the conservatives. 2. Under the Conservatives, with opposition from Ed Miliband’s labour, LGBTQIA+ relationships were legalised. 3. ‘The Eqaulity Act is a nasty welfare reform’- Yeah right …. 4. Some of the points here I get, I’m not saying the Conservatives are perfect, but they have done many good things and are better than Labour.
Great, great video. I am going to show it to someone I know who keeps saying, 'How do I know Labour is different from the Conservatives,' but who so far can't be bothered to do any research. Thank you!
You're right, Labour used to be different to the Tories, but a lot of traditional labour voters it looks like the same elite group switching colours from blue to red and back again. It's an illusion of change. Real change is grassroots, it does not come out of VIP rooms, corporate lobbies and a well oiled propaganda machine.
@@californiadreamin8423 never said i want it, just agreeing with this guy that new labour are nothing like what they try and claim to be... but yeah i'd definitley pass the medical, I'm not the one burdening our NHS with my fondness for maccies
@@bigmanmichael3807 You have no comprehension of this country at the time of Attlee . Not even sure you were old enough to vote in say 2010. Do you want todays Labour to introduce mandatory conscription, because your posts suggest you do. As for eating “maccies “, don’t stop there, what else do people BURDEN the NHS with ?
It’s heartbreaking that the extensive list of monumental achievements of the last Labour government have been systematically and intentionally decimated over in 14 years by the unruly cabal posing as a government. Heartbreaking because they have broken Britain in every way possible, ruining our global reputation, economy, NHS etc Labour have restored Britain in the past and it has fiscally sound policies to do it again! Don’t listen to the nay sayers, have faith, trust and patience so that once elected Labour can methodically deliver on their promised changes. 🌹Vote Labour on 4th July🌹
It's even more heartbreaking that all of the positive progressive Socialist gains of the previous generations of Labour Party members & supporters have been contemptuously torn up & destroyed by Thatcher's heir & "greatest success" & his cronies & acolytes. Goddamn the Kiddie Starver & the Tory's B Team - support only Genuine Socialists, Independents & the Green Party.
Excellent coment. The rich and the Tories want you poor, homeless and starving. While you fight for survival, you dont have time or energy to fight their rape of OUR country.
The Blair years were the best time in my life...society a thousand times better than it is now...do us proud Labour again...we know you will..and thank you for the work you do
@@Matty12333 Yes, the conversion to Thatcherism was amazing. Just what Britain needed and needs more of indefinitely. Failure to reverse anti union legislation, continued privatisation, widening inequality, Iraq and Afghanistan, failure to tax the rich fairly and to redistribute wealth. The Labour manifesto of 1997 stated that the Conservatives had got some things right, an observation totally at odds with the principles of democratic socialism but in keeping with the sell out under Blair. Fasten your seatbelts- Britain is in for a rough ride as the tough medicine of never ending Thatcherism is delivered by a Labour Party not fit for office but not to worry, Thatcherism is the gift that keeps on giving. Love the Overton Window moving to the right remorselessly since 1979.
Ah yes Blair…..who started NHS privatisation. Who led us into an unjust illegal war in Iraq. Blair, whom Margaret Thatcher called her greatest achievement!
Can’t stand the Tories but if any own has watched Question Time the last two weeks or the leaders debate, Labour’s candidates are really poor - no numbers, no strategy just ‘the Tories have been awful/ we want more schools, shorter waiting times’ etc. without saying how they’ll do it.
I want to live in a country where if you work 40hrs a week you can afford to put food on the table for your kids, take them on holiday, and have a decent life and comefortable retirement safe in the knowledge that your family will be looked after when you are gone. No one working a full week should have to rely on benefits, this just means company directors are not paying enough and getting rich at the cost of the tax payer
And in 10 years we'll be against labour. It's a cycle of Labour, tories, labour ,tories... It's time for a new party to end this cycle of never ending corruption.
@@lorraine7960 true but you get my point, in 1979 people were sick of Labour, then in 1997 people were sick of the tories, then in 2010 people were sick of Labour, then now in 2024 people are sick of the tories again
What party brought in tuition fees, massively expanded PFI in the NHS, started an illegal war, opened the floodgates to all and sundry and were only the second political party in history apart from the BNP to be investigated by the EHRC for racism and found guilty ?
The Attlee government, administratively was the most able government of all time. What it achieved for every day working people was extraordinary, and since the Thatcher years with neoliberalism, the achievements have slowly been undone by stealth. At least we have a new government now, but I am fearful the UK will return to the destitution of the Victorian era. One must remember, historically, the labour movement delivered us from those austere times.
Yeah, that is the power of a Labour government, I don't disagree. We don't have a Labour government anymore though, nor do we even have a Labour party. We have two Tory parties. Don't compare yourself to old Labour.
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Good video, Clement Atlee is probably the best PM we ever had, despite all the debt from wartime he did not go down the road of austerity like the Conservatives did or tough fiscal rules like today's Labour did, his government was the most radical and left wing we've had in the UK. They created the NHS, the modern welfare state, building 100,000's of council homes, re-nationalised industry to cut unemployment and lifted millions out of poverty. This led to the post-war consensus until Thatcher ripped it up. Keir needs to be bolder like Atlee to truly benefit the ordinary working class people of the UK.
If I thought you can do even a 10th of what Clement Atlee did you might get my vote. I voted for Labour under Corbyn. After Thatcher you became tories. Without Corbyn you are just a friendlier conservative party.
ye but it's a different world today, if labour are too left wing, no one will vote for them, i think that labour need to be more left wing, but they need to appear to the electorate to be more centrist
Since you have only been a RU-vid subscriber for 6 years ie. since 2018 , I judge that you are too young to speak a great deal about “previous Labour governments “ and have never really experienced the freedom of movement we enjoyed under “previous Labour governments”. Well , have you ? Now remind yourself which government took away YOUR freedom of movement.
@TrevorWinters-jl8hd Obviously not. Starmer's Labour is only giving us a fraction of what they could be, so let's call on Labour to stop pandering to the Right and realise what made Labour so valuable in the first place. Also it's not like there's two parties - many people disgruntled with Labour's rightwards shift will be voting independents, Green or even Lib Dem.
@@jonniekimmins8015 What do you mean by “a fraction of what they could” ? Can you see into the future ? Can you guarantee that on the 4th July that we will have a Labour Government which we know will be inheriting colossal debt, and hamstrung by catastrophe of Brexit ?
Another fact not a lot of people know: James Ramsay MacDonald (the first Labour prime minister) appointed the first ever female minister, Margaret Bondfield, in his second majority!
The difference between now and then is that Labour was once a left wing party, now it's firmly right wing, why else would Keir Starmer welcome far right Conservative MP Natalie Elphicke into Labour?
If you are too blinkered to understand the power of the Elphick defection, then there is no point debating it. Labour isn't right wing, because its members aren't right wing. It's the members that make Labour what it is, unlike the Tories or Libdems and Greens for that matter. Perhaps we don't all lean quite so far to the left as other members clearly would like, but we should and can reach a progressive, positive way forward together that many in the country will also support.
because it undermines the conservatives.. If you lead a country and I lead a country, I get one of your famous generals to come to my side, then your country looks weak. It does not mean I will make that general one of my top people, but it does make your side look worse and sow dissent within the ranks of your generals.
@@jeangenie5807The members who joined to vote for Corbyn voted for Starmer because he pretended he was a socialist and believed in socialist policies. Starmer then broke every single pledge and started purging the same people who voted for him. So in what way does the Labour Party represent the members? They were hated so much they were lied to and kicked out, Starmer would rather court the favour of billionaire donors and Tory voters. How anyone who believes in progressive politics can fall for that liar is beyond me
It's not the only evidence of being a bit too right wing Rachel Reeves is currently more right wing than the _Financial Times_ on tax policy. That's not something I ever expected to see from Labour!
@@markwelch3564 If they want to collaspe the CON as a party, they need to make sure they get very few seats, appearing super lefty is going to keep CON swing voters voting tory, being slightly to the right makes them look more realistic and appealing. Liberal Democrats are pretty far to the left, correct? We can blame the LibDems for the entire con run since Nick Clegg decided to give Cameron power by running a coalition. Thanks LibDems, thanks for 14 years of austerity and forcing us out of the EU, thanks for having no spine and letting the tories run the coalition. You see, you can get the most left wing presenting politicians you like, but they formed a coalition so they could get power. You might think, "oh but they were only allied one term", incumbent government always has a the advantage next time at the polls so LibDems boosted the tories.
The question isn’t if Labour governments were bad - they were amazing. Had it not been for Iraq, I would’ve said Tony Blair was one of the great PMs of the UK, up there with Atlee. The question now is: will THIS Labour government be the same? Because I have only seen vague statements from them to my knowledge, and they’ve moved considerably to the right. So, is Labour a left-wing party that can do long-hauls after damage control? Or just the party of damage control whenever the Tories go too far?
@@redjarvis That’s the thing. After 14 years of crap, a New Labour type of movement would be great (as long as we don’t get dragged into another war). Now, I have complete faith that a Labour government will be infinitely more competent than the current Tory one, but Infinity times 0 competence, is still 0. I guess we’ll find out.
As a result of a shrinking state, Brexit, growing inequality and increased job insecurity, I see an increasingly desperate working class who are turning to the hard right for answers. It's always been true that in hard times, we shift right. It's absolutely paramount that Labour address this.
Labour shrunk the state. Half of Labour members wanted Brexit. Labour kicked off the mass migration that harms British workers. What exactly are you hoping they'll do?
@@0w784g Recognise the growing threats posed by automation, AI and the unquenchable thirst of capitalism. Renationalise the NHS. Invest in preventative healthcare (the cheapest and most cost effective kind). Invest in diagnostics and primary care (the second cheapest kind). Make Britain energy independent (we can power ourselves multiple times over using wind alone. And more with solar, tidal, geothermal, efficiency measures, pumped storage, battery storage, smart grids, EVs with V2G technology). We will need some form of UBI - it's inevitable. It's just a matter of whether or not we will destroy ourselves on route. We probably need to tax companies that replace humans with robots or software.
Yes. A far right government is the last thing we need. There have been problems with previous Labour governments, but on the whole, the quality of life for the majority of ordinary people has been much better under Labour than the Tories. The fact that so many people think the answer to our problems is to go further to the right is insane; and quite frightening.
The state is bigger than ever now. Filled with parasite bureaucrats and managers. Labour were the worst offenders in the MPs expenses scandal they’re just another gang if thieves.
I remain unconvinced Starmer will be like Atlee or even Wilson in power, and he does not have the charisma to be like Blair. This country needs a paradigm shift to the levels it had under Atlee and Thatcher, and I don't know if he or his shadow cabinet has the zeal for that. My fear is that even if a lot of good is done it won't transform the political consensus in this country and the tories will be able to undo a lot of achievements within one term of them returning to power, whenever that may be. But he rescued the party from its worst position in decades so he has more than earned the right to try and forge his own path. I wish him and the shadow cabinet well and want to be able to speak in glowing terms about him and his government when I'm old. It's going to be a huge undertaking to undo 14 years of plunder and neglect.
I had similar feelings to you around a year ago, but now I'm actually quite excited about the prospect of Labour winning. It's true that Starmer isn't a Blair personality, but maybe we need someone a bit more like Starmer right now - someone who will restore a sense of seriousness to government after the clown show we've had for years now? I like the shadow cabinet. It would be a huge achievement for Angela Rayner to be deputy PM given her humble background. I think they do have some bold ideas like GB energy, the plans to get NHS waits down, more police etc but if I had any criticism it's that I do feel they've boxed themselves in a bit too much economically agreeing to no tax rises - but I understand why they've done it for electorial purposes. I guess they have to walk a tightrope - they need to be radical enough to reform a broken country after 14 years of Tory neglect, but they also need to be cautious enough to avoid the pitfalls of being seen as 'too radical' (and thus unelectable). I think Starmer is doing a good job overall of balancing the two.
It's a step in the right direction, going that far left in one good wouldn't work. We need a gradual shift to make it sustainable and that's what labour is doing. This is the groundwork for building something better
This was the power of a Labour Government. I bet after this election the entire PLP won't have the breadth of working backgrounds of any previous Labour cabinet, even Blair's after 97. But I bet you would be able to make a cabinet of purely ex (and definitely future) lobbyists.
Those who have no hope in the future, live in the past. The Tories are history. Labour are likely to meet the same fate in five years time when the rot of disappointment sets in. The seeds of revolution have been sown, God help us, and there's precious little sign that Labour's motley crew will do anything but bring it forward.
Atlee could afford radical change and had revolutionary rhetoric after ww2. Whats Starmer's excuse? 14 years of tories was bad yes, but it wasnt ww2 level bad.
I also remember the Labour governments of 1974-1979 with the winter of discontent, an IMF loan, massive balance of payments deficit, strike action, high inflation, devaluation of the pound, bins not emptied, 3 day week...
@Ventura2050 that still doesn't excuse reckless abandon with the economy. Hence why we need to stop focusing on affairs that don't concern us and sort our own house out before offering to help sort someone else's.
The MPs in that time would have been born in the fucking 1920s you sludge brained troglodyte And almost everything there is currently happening with the Tory government.
Not forgetting Blair opened up the NHS to privatisation! People always seem to forget this. Sure Blair’s government built 100 hospitals- but what should’ve cost is 12 billion has already cost us 80 billion and thanks to the PFIs used to fund them, the U.K./government won’t even own the hospitals once they’re paid off!
The 1948 British Nationality Act seeded the end of the English, Welsh and Scottish nations. All three major English cities are minority white British, Birmingham minority white as is Leicester, Slough and Luton. Vast swathes of England are now entirely foreign. The economic and social costs if immigration are tryly terrifying. We didn't list to Enoch and now we have a last chance by the 2040's our culture and identity will be gone forever as being white British will be a minority group.
Well, I've put my money in an offshore bank and downgraded my car (not electric). Sold all my shares and bought a small hose. Bad times are coming. (yes, even worse than before)
It is time the Tory Labour stich up comes to and end. It is disgusting in 2024 it is the same parties that we have has for over a 100 years and working to keep others out.
Under Starmer, the English working class, which he hates, will be repressed as this stasi style government if his passes laws making it easiet to prosecute an imprison any working class man or woman who dares speak up for their country if their messages aren't officially acceptable by the state. The Labour Party is already building a one party state where freedom of speech will be removed from working class people. Well done all those who voted Labour, they have just voted in a dictator, a tyrant and a man who will use the power if the state to stamp on you too if you dare step out of line.
Brilliant, Just Brilliant! I'm so excited for the future now that change is coming, we have a huge amount of rebuilding to do, but lets do it together!
I live in a constituency (cheadle) where tories won and lib dems were a close second, and lib dems previously held the seat. Labour are a distant third. I know I should probably vote tactically for lib dem but I struggle to bring myself to do it, because of the tuition fee lie which affected me a lot and still makes me furious. What would you do? God i hate FPTP.
One of the many lies Starmer told to get elected was that he would get rid of FPTP. Yet like almost everything he has ever said he now says the opposite 👌
I would vote lib dem, and then push for PR. If they are the official opposition then voting reform is more likely. I have the lib dems for the loans thing too - but I voted for them in the local elections. The Tories must lose or we will have no NHS left.
I just hope whoever is in government doesn't define affordable housing based on "a phone box only costs £100,000, which is affordable, so we'll build more of those". Instead, build houses then sell them at cost so first-time buyers actually have nice *houses* to live in. (Not just flats, certainly not single rooms.) And before anyone replies saying "earn it yourself" I own my own house. I wouldn't benefit from the policy.
This is the same 'Labour' Party that refuses to tax wealth and is happy to keep the 2 child benefit cap but is more that happy to remove it from bankers' bonuses in a cost of living crisis. A million miles away from Atlee's Labour Party. I don't know how Labour has the temerity to post this video clip. I will be backing Green/Independent from now on.
The atlee goverment extending rationing to the 50's, completed the bankruptcy of the country, and only lasted 5 years, starting a pattern of protest vote / go broke, this election is not the important one.....
