This Is Why People Leave Yugioh (No Interaction games, Discussion / Rant Video) 

remember when summoning a single quasar and having just a single omni negate was considered a win condition? neither does konami

does anyone remember when we attacked each other's monsters?

Turn 1: takes 20 years to complete Turn 2: you don’t get to play

"this trap card can be activated from my hand" `"my deck can be activated from my deck"`

If Pegasus used his millenium eye to foresee that play he would have a stroke.

That Duel would have take a whole season in the anime.

"If your opponent attacks this card, summon blue eyes from your deck or graveyard and destroy all cards on your opponents side of the field, kill his mom and kidnap his brother."

Imagine paying all that money for a top tier deck when solitaire is free.

Yugioh 2002: I summon this monster and place one card face down and end my turn Yugioh 2021: I summon twenty monsters, negate all your cards, activate five traps from my hand, deal 8000 points of damage, win the duel and end my turn

I thought porn websites were the only place to find videos of people playing with themselves. I was wrong.

I remember a time when Jinzo was my biggest threat

You guys remember having a 3rd turn?

It's amazing how relevant this still is. But to summarize: This guy spent four minutes on an *automated* dueling system to search, draw, shuffle out their whole deck, to set up 5 negates on the very first turn. Now, imagine how this would look in real life. You draw your hand, and lose the coin flip. Your hand has no hand traps (a very possible situation, and more common than one might think), and your opponent does this. So you get to sit there, watching your opponent draw, search, and shuffle their deck for about ten minutes, while you have no out to their play. And you have to keep watching, since you can't take your eyes off the board or off of your opponent, if you're worried they're going to pull something. And after fifteen whole minutes, the turn is passed over to you. So finally, you get to play! Right? Nope. You quickly find out that you bricked, and there's no way you can play through five negates. So you have to concede. The fact that people think that *this* is okay need to get their head examined. This isn't the fault of players using a bad deck or not having the means/money to buy the best and most broken cards of the format, this goes so much deeper. it's just bad card and game design, and it's so deterring to newcomers and people who just came back into the game alike. Like, this shouldn't have to be said, but apparently it has, because over 1500 people seem to think that this is healthy for the game. And to the people who say: "Duuuuuh just play better decks and cards lol u just suck", let me ask this: Are you fine with the game being reduced to "Play X and Y or else you will keep losing and you suck lol." "Just win the coin flip lol." Well, are you? Because if you are, you are the exact reason why people are quitting and possibly even growing to hate the game. Congratulations, hope you're proud of yourself. Edit: Some extra comments. Like, are people fine with decks being reduced to nothing more but generic negation extra deck monsters and how quickly you can spam the board with them? And why are you even playing Yu-Gi-Oh! if you're just going to sit there and play with yourself to set up an entire board of monsters that pretty much don't let your opponent play the game? Both of these points are applicable to both offline, and online. While Master Duel may have solved the lack of accessibility to newcomers, they'll be in for a very rough and perhaps even an awful time if they keep playing against decks that set up nothing but negates while the newcomer probably just wanted to play a deck they like from days of old or aestethic wise. Also could apply to returning players after years of absence. This is not okay. The game is fundamentally broken at its core. Where if your deck can't play certain cards, it's a bad deck. If you can't afford certain cards, you're a bad player. If you can't play through five negates, you're a terrible duelist. These issues have persisted for a very long time. And Konami has done absolutely nothing to address any of these gnawing issues. There needs to be an overhaul. A limit on the amount of special summons. And a hard limit on how much negates you can set up. I, for one, like the diversity in what all the different decks have to offer. Yet we'll never find out, because they either can't spam the generic extra deck big attack omniversal negate monsters, or they set up on the second turn. And if a deck gets disregarded because of the latter, then we especially know it's gone too far. And there's your extra comments. I believe I summed this up quite nicely. Peace.

When trap cards that cannot activate from the hand are considered bad because they are too slow, you know the game is in a bad state.

Seeing that guy's first turn, I might as well be watching someone play solitaire.

once upon a time we all saw kaiba play 3 blue eyes in one turn to summon his ultimate dragon and were collectively bummed out when our kid selves actually started playing the game and realized it didnt really work like that nowadays if dropping 3 blue eyes on the field and fusing them was all your turn did it'd be a weak ass turn

At this point, reading what every card does on the first turn is the same amount of reading a big ass book. I need glasses and a coffee and a sign that says "quiet im reading."

i can draw all my deck but can't use pot of greeed

remember when special summon is actually "Special"? Yeah i miss those day

I know I keep saying this, but when the power creep hits the point where Raigeki is not only unbanned but is referred to as a bad card, it's time to call it a day.

Who remembers when you would just… summon a monster. The excitement of summoning a tribute monster. Setting a trap. Simple card descriptions instead of frickin novels. WHAT THE HELL HAS HAPPENED TOO YUGIOH? just reset it send us back to the start.

"Hello Allure of Darkness my old friend You've gone and discarded my entire hand again"

Casual yugioh with your buddies is where it's at

remember when you played 1 normal monster and played like 1 trap or magic card and you were done for that turn. Good old days.

I quit yugioh about 5 to 6 years back when I watched my opponent at a local tournament cycle his deck for 15 minutes straight. Just got up and walked out.

Meta Yugi is basically: "Oh, I lost the coinflip and I'm going second?" *Surrenders*

Shout out to the 90's kids out there. Who played Yu-Gi-Oh classic.

When I lose, I want to feel like it is because I was outplayed and that my opponent was a better player than me, not because I went second on a board with 4 negates

Nowaday, normal summon IS the special summon

Pot of greed is banned but dis dude just ran thru his whole deck tf??

Remember when we just set 3 monster and afraid to attack because it might be a Man Eater Bug and make ourselves look silly. Yeah, that memory was more than a 15 years now.

Ill be honest this freaking terrifies me as an old yugioh player. The dude went though half his deck and it took like forever! And he summoned several high powered Monsters that kept his opponent from playing. How is that fair. HOW IS THAT FUN!?!

GX Era: I love this game Synchro: interesting.. Xyz: cool mechanic, but lets slow down Pendulum: wtf are you doing Now: WHAT DO YOU MEAN

Playing uno doesn't sound all that bad honestly.

Yu-Gi-Oh, the game where you play by yourself while having someone look at you with frustration and anger.

For better picture, Konami could print a trap card today that literally said "when your opponent declares an attack: you win the duel", and there would be very real reasons to NOT play it.

Remember when card texts weren't two paragraphs long

I like how Konami bans cards that discard cards from the opponents hand but allow cards which can accomplish the same thing by negating everything you try and do

I summon Celtic Guardian! *sees opponent's field* ......in defense mode?

Now that the game is closer to gambling rather than strategy, how could you expect people to stay

If I was playing against this irl at a locals or something, I'd scoop on the spot and go home. I paid to play in a Yugioh tournament, not watch a guy play solitaire.

Remember when you couldn't get your entire deck out the first turn?

spell NO trap NO summon monster(s) NO playing the game NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

My questions is. How do they expect to get new players when the meta is so advanced that you can lose in your first turn?

It's discouraging to see players floods the board with powerful effect monsters on their first turn, they then negate everything you do. it's not even a duel anymore they are just preventing you from playing the game..

yu gi oh then : i summon Gagagigo and set 2 cards down, your turn ! yu gi oh now : i normal summon then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, then i special summon, and hum.. i think ill end my t-..ho wait.. ill special summon one more thing then now ill end my turn !

Jesus, I haven't played since 5Ds. I can't imagine playing against shit like this. Dude literally summoned 13,700 worth of attack monsters on his first turn.

Coming back to this video every once in a while reminds me why I’m glad I’ve only ever played Yugioh on a casual level...

Welcome to Yugioh where if you see a 3rd turn you’re really making progress

Bruh this man is summoning his whole damn deck

Just to remind everyone, this is a game where you still can only do one normal summon per then.

"Did you just summon a munch of monsters in one turn?" "Yeah, so?" "That's against the rules isn't it?" "... You've been out of touch with the game for a while now haven't you?"

I remember when trap hole used to be a pain in the ass on your first summon, or sakuretsu armor on your first attack. Good times..

So this guy’s turn took 4 minutes and that’s with this being an online game where it would be much easier to shuffle, search for cards, and do plenty of other stuff. Just imagine how long you would be sitting there if this was in paper.

I miss it when people actually tried to duel like in the anime...

... I remember when pot of greed into a 1800 atk 4 star with a trap or something was considered a good opener.

I quit Yugioh for this reason... If a deck doesn't let me play Yugioh, whats the point in even trying?

Remember link were supposed to slow the game down, my ass

"I summon a monster, which let's me draw three cards, and if I send this card to the graveyard, I can summon any monster from my graveyard, and if I draw this monster I can put this on my field, then that allows me to synchro summon this monster who destroys all spells and traps on your field, and now I'm gonna fuse him with this, and this monster I summoned can destroy all the monsters on your field if I discard a spell. Now I have 6500 attack, and I attack you directly! Wasn't that fun?!"

Basically, you win the duel if you win at Rock Paper Scissors 🤣

Yes, this is EXACTLY why people quite YGO. Why would I want to invest money into a game where maybe 50% of the matches, I don't even get to play?

This is why i quit Yugioh after playing for over a decade, the game has outdated rules and power creep out the ass. Believe it or not this game use to play out like a game of chess now its more like a expensive game of tic tac toe.

When you can do 30 card combos off of 1 card. It takes the fun out of the game. No reason people can make a unbreakable board with 5 negates. You're not even playing the game at that point

Draw 2 is bad. But summon your deck is ok.

So at what point did yu-gi-oh go from summoning a high level monster, to milling through the deck to have all monsters that can negate all card effects?

i normal summon dark magician and attack you directly. GG

Personally, I'm never coming back to Yugioh. I tried Master Duel, wasted hours in no-interaction games. There is no excuse for this level of bad game design.

Honestly, Yu-Gi-Oh "died" long before the endless turn era. It started with the arrival of monsters that could negate without a sacrifice of any kind being made. Look at the original "negate" style cards like Magic Jammer. You got one use out of it and you had to discard a card. Now look at all the big "boss monsters" that can negate just because they're on the field. Duel Links is experiencing that now and I genuinely fear for its future. Duels are more about preventing your opponent from playing Yu-Gi-Oh than they are about actually combating their monsters. I get that negation is a part of the game but it got out of hand a looong time ago.

"Duel Monsters is still a broken, exploitable mess of a game. And I'm about to exploit the hell out of it."

YuGiOh is a very well-balanced game: basically 2 players sit down together and determine the winner by tossing the coin. 50-50, so balanced! Right? XD

Found this video because I was playing Master Duel and actually had time to go and make some lunch while my opponent finished his first turn.

I quit YGO around the time pendulum monsters were added to the game. I came back late 2018 and quickly got tired of these 10 minute turns of continuous special summons. It's ridiculous!

some people leave yugioh cause the opponent is more interested in play by himself apparently.

It's useless to deny it, all those who defend modern Yu-Gi-Oh! are only those who have spent so much money on the game that they cannot say otherwise. The game itself is indefensible today, and this video proves it.

5 years later -> it's gotten worse.

I played a guy that used this deck, I play yosenjus and I need traps to help protect me since they leave the field, anyway i ended up winning game 1 and losing game 2, game 3 i fiendish chained his saryuja, he got visibly upset, then I striked his borreload savage dragon, he hit the table and scooped, saying "why don't you play a combo deck stop hiding behind trap cards", I responded "the only difference between my negates and yours is that yours have attack points". He left.

I honestly don't see how people still find this game fun to play.

I miss the old days of yu gi oh. I feel like synchro was probably as far as it could've gone. Pendulums made me quit.

If a trap card was printed with the effect "You win the game." People wouldn't play it because it was too slow.

The problem is NEGATES. Combos are fun but negates aren't.

At this point. They just need to straight up limit the amount of special summons and or monster or card effects in general you can activate per turn. This is just stupid.

Imagine doing this shit in real life with actual physical cards? By the time my opponent ends his turn I already finished cooking breakfast.

KONAMI!! Listen to me! Monsters are for BATTLING, Spells are used to facilitate the Monsters, and Traps are for countering the opponent's moves! Not like this where Monsters do all three role at the same freaking time!

The heck happened to this game....

Old Yu-Gi-Oh game: Random pull cards is the game New Yu-Gi-Oh game: Take your entire deck and put it in your hand.

as someone who’s coming back to yugioh after close to a decade, i have to say i’m utterly bewildered by what the game has become. used to be that monsters were monsters and magic/traps helped you deal with your opponent’s monsters or magic/trap cards. now it seems like monsters do just about everything, spells are only there to get your monsters out, and forget about trap cards. seems like a lot of card management and optimization, but where’s the strategy? where’s the excitement? it really feels like people are just banging their decks together rather than “dueling.” then again, i’m about as out of the loop as you can get, so i dunno, maybe some people enjoy it. but i’d probably never want to invest myself seriously into the game, looking at it from the outside.

His video aged pretty well.

Too much special summoning Too many negates Feels like the game has become a solitaire, where it's no longer about interacting with what your opponent does, and instead about making sure your opponent cannot do stuff.

Remember the days when Yu-Gi-Oh was a 2 Player game?

Players: We need ways to special summon more Konami: Introducing Fusions! Players: Would be nice if we could special summon without poly and monsters we don't need Konami: Introducing Syncros! I would say right around Syncros, is when the game was getting out of hand Konami: Introducing XYZs! Players: TF is that Konami: Monsters you can summon by using 2 or more like level monsters giving you more power! Players: That's nice and all but I think we may be going into a huge power creep issue Konami: Introducing Pendulums! Players: ......... Konami: These monsters have scales going from 1 to 12. Example you have a scale of 1 on the right and a scale of 12 on the left. You can special summon monsters from you hand whose levels are between 2 and 11 Players: Konami, POWER CREEP. TF DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?!?!?!??!?! Konami: introducing Link summons! Players: Konami, I swear, I will.... Konami: It limits special summoning from the extra deck Players: Go on Konami: You will need to give up monsters stated at the bottom of the cards (was cars lol). Link 3 requires 3 monsters and so on Players: Okay, it seems to slow down some decks and tone down the power creep a bit 1 year later Players: Konami, FU! Claims to slow down the game but releases more links that allow players to swarm the field. Summon Sorcerer > Needle Fiber > Summon Sorcerer > Isold (points to who know where I pulled that from). And that is just one possible combo. Konami: What if we release more cards with swarming potential that bypasses the all the game mechanics we just set? PLayers: (1/2 the population have left Yu-gi-oh)

And this is how these type of players stop anyone new from trying to start playing. As a noob would you wanna play a game where all you do is watch someone spout nonsense and throw cards around for at least 2 or 3 minutes before you even get your first turn and then be told “oh thanks for letting me stroke my own ego, and would you look at that? I win! Wanna play again?” That’s how you kill your own game. Well done Konami. You kill off MGS and now YuGiOh.

Back when goblin zombie and call of the haunted were viable is when the game was functioning.

waiting for your opponent to complete a turn makes you loose your interest in winning, and wanting the duel to end instead

I miss the og days. Sitting on the floor with your friends and you finally get to sacrifice for red eyes or summon skull and your opponent using magical cylinder to win. The excitement of the good Ole days man... Miss those

If you have to rely on drawing a hand trap before your first turn just to stand a chance, there’s something terribly wrong with your card game.

A game that: - Has monsters that cannot be destroyed or affected by spells and traps - Has monsters that substitute trap cards and can be played directly from your hand - It's made by Konami - Has very common OTKs or FTKs Cool. Looks like it's back to casual Pokemón for me.

what ruin yugioh to me : -monster given half-page long effect -monster given effect to negate -OP boss card but ridiculously easy to summon

Legend says the streamer still waits for his turn to come.

When I was in college a few years ago I learned that my roommate played Yugioh, so just for the fun of it, I challenged him and he agreed to it. So I grabbed my deck that I had in middle school, which was an OG-era deck with my most recent card dating back to maybe 2005 (after that point I stopped playing), while his deck was a recent meta deck. Needless to say I got destroyed in a hilarious manner. I was in shock, and seeing how the game is played nowadays is just brutal. They massacred my boy

Wtf is going on, is this even the same game what happend.