The Story of Yu-Gi-Oh's Most Hated Card 

Ty Joseph, thank you for taking the time to tag along for this video

Video would be better without you

It's my favorite C-word yugituber!

The evolution was surprising! Has anyone tried A Closed Forest against Mystic Mine??? I tried in the past to work within the set I has available to me (Duel Links) to strategize for that card and beyond staples that is what I have seen as a bit of a barrier.

​@@PhyYuGiOhthis Kind of Yu-Gi-Oh Content is amazing keep going :)! I love it

And hand traps were the monkey's paw of "i wish i could get around these unbreakable boards

​@@undeadinside3571And handtraps are totally fine

This 2 turn or 1 turn yugioh is trash makes the game not worth playing

@@senny- mostly, but then we get hand traps like nibiru, which have next to no counter play

Mystic Mine. A toxic, stupid card that can be countered with 20+ cards where no card costs more than $2.

Great Opponent :)

Yeah the fact that you have to use very specific S/T removal to even have a chance against Mine is ridiculous

Wow if people had played the terrible trap card that shuffles your hand and field into the deck you couldn't get mystic mined

yeah if you didn't want to fight meta, meta and sometimes cancer it used too be percy or bust and nowadays I guess ignis or bust. Playing irl yugioh is just its own special hell.

@@pkkiller_apathy4568 Localized tornado right? Well, sure, you get rid of your field for free, then when you want to play chain Terraforming, and 2nd Terra after getting Ash'd... and if by winning by deckout due to Tornado... well, doubt Solemns would allow it Conclave (For the scenario of Crystal beast) is a solid out for it thou

shoutout yataloked, he's the 🐐

The equivalent of "im racist but at least im being honest"

>plays yugioh to hang out with his son >only plays stun decks 😂

Funny how because of Jeff Jones I came to realization that if I faced a old player, he would be probably playing stun decks, because apparently old ppl cant combo.

​@@ketsura3618combo is just as lame as stun.

One more piece! One more piece! One more piece!

This was your idea ;)

Jojo the GOAT

I am so glad to see you interacting with the yugioh creators, as a fan of both asmr and yugioh

well that was a big surprise to see you pop up here. But a welcome one~

so good to get to see ausies on a main youtube channel, and that's typical Poe with a last minute Visa situation 🤣

Absolute chad

Idk the fact it can take 4 minutes for a turn on master duel where shuffling searching is streamlined turns me off. Like it doesn't feel like a back and forth game it's more of a 100m dash race to your combo or infinite negates

never a fan of combo deck, but also not a stun decks lover, i like midrange/beat control type decks alot

​@@SabGamingWoodyard-if7dpcan we only do something these days if a turn doesn't take 12 seconds to complete? Sheesh it's a card game.

@@user-iu5ib8bj6l i like whichever deck i have fun with, currently since mine was banned, i've been playing speedroid, d/d/d, and traptrix... unfortunately nothing is as fun as mystic mine was, the sheer anger towards 1 card because a bunch of man babies refuse to put backrow in their main deck because "this game doesn't have spell/trap cards, we run monsters here!" was so funny. whenever i went mystic mine pass and then it passed for 20 turns, forcing my opponent to sit there in agony was the best thing ever, i didn't play burn that was too boring, i liked watching my opponent play to deck out.

@@matthewrock4725 it's so fun watching your opponent go 10 minutes setting up their combo that end in a field of omni negates before you get to draw a card. and fun fact yugioh in the only card game that does crap like that on turn 1.

Why christian defend israel attrocities can be traced from how yugioh player simp for jeff

@@eavyeavy2864 what

​@@eavyeavy2864huh?

​​@@eavyeavy2864jesse what the fuck are you talking about

​​@@eavyeavy2864 least schizo yugioh player

We may hate mystic mine, but we love jeff They would even each other out, but jeff is just superior

@@XTempestBuster perfectly balance as all things should be

@@SLICKone-zm1kv there are other animals?

@@SLICKone-zm1kvIt's the result of you older folk never giving another animal a name that is an acronym for a version of 'The Best Ever'. Own up to that.

Fucking chad move

It's actually kinda toxic. Jeff is a nice guy and I am glad this dad figure is embraced, but people being assh*les to others for playing these decks is socially awkward behavior.

@spicymemes7458 nah if you like playing floodgates your gonna get told they're unfun to play against that's just the nature of stun vs combo, if you take that to heart that's on you, because as we've seen the community is also capable of being wholesome

Everyone should play stun. Go play solitaire if you want to play combo. Prep well, and draw the out

@bruhmoment1835 flipping a floodgate is just as unskilled than a memorised combo

@@AstralLaVista It doesn't matter what you play, what you look like, where you are from, etc. We all play the same game using the same tools given by the same company, and picking and choosing who gets shit and who doesn't only makes us look childish and sets a bad tone for others coming in, especially when we converse mostly online.

mystic mine does not need a buff being a skill drain field spell was already good. the main thing it needed was requiring the controler control a monster.

​@@randomprotag9329Yeah, like Kaiser Coliseum. Wonder if it'd ever return with an errata (or a similar nerfed card gets printed)

@@GatsbyCioffi Its funny the Kaiser Coliseum is way weaker than Mystic mines and harder to search yet it was banned while Mines stuck around for a good while.

@@randomprotag9329TBH, if Mine only had its Skill Drain effect, I think that would inherently encourage its controller to control at least one monster. Under Skill Drain, your opponent can still summon monsters and apply pressure; you can’t just sit there and do nothing. So, the Mine player would either need to lock out attacks with another unsearchable floodgate or present pressure of their own, most likely in the form of a big monster your opponent can’t just run over. But now that the Mine player controls a monster, their opponent can just match monster counts and turn off mine. Really, it was the combination of Skill Drain plus Wall of Revealing Light on Mystic Mine that allowed you to just sit on it with no monsters until you could win.

@@Brawler_1337 it would encourage mirror force more than monsters. attack stopping back row would be much more likely to go though when its important an it removes the option to equal on monsters.

If it rent free it already does

@@eavyeavy2864 Speak human, please.

I am a shifter enjoyer myself.

@@hyde5213 "if Shifter leaves rent free in your mind, it has already filled those shoes" I assume they mean something like that. The fun part is that I actually enjoyed Mystic Mine (the card, not the deck) because it gave me a valid reason to play junk like Vivid Tail and High Rate Draw. Then it's even more ironic because I'm planning to sell my FKSE and join the Shifter gang since I really want to play Yubel and can't wait for the LeDe support.

@@babrad I said speak human, not 4channel.

Is it because he is an affable older guy, and that's a rare demo in yugioh?

as someone who has no idea how yu-gi-oh works, it reminds me of ensnaring bridge for sure. although infinitely more broken from the sound of it😆

Well maybe you should help your audience and release a video

yup mystic mine being banned in the OCG For years paid off

I'm not even a YGO player, I'm a Magic player, but even for me, the first time i ever saw this card i could tell this was absurd. Like "how could they let this go to print" sort of absurd.

@@JackgarPrime yu gi oh players when they can't just vomit out monsters and win

Yeah, it literally reads like some angry yugiboomer's custom card because monster effect = bad.

@@youtube-kit9450 considering literally the entire game is in an unhealthy state due to monster effects being so abused, getting rid of the one deck able to put them in their place is kind of stupid... especially when it never dominated the meta

for how much people hate on mystic mine... it's funny how they act like it was a tier 0 deck or some shit... :p i always find it funny how mystic mine out of all cards in the game, is the card that got by far the most hate... "the opponent can't activate monster effects or attack". "oh my god broken... i was gonna setup a full board of negates alongside 2 hand traps... it was gonna be so sick" - some unfortunate combo player

I can confirm that since I played the mystic mine burn deck and am indeed an asshole

The double standard

Jeff would do Palestina babies and you would still simp him

​@@eavyeavy2864 more like the only exception

i never have a problem with people playing stun decks in competitive settings. people who do it in fun settings (like MD) have issues. who fires up a game where you can just build whatever you want for practically free and goes "Im gonna play Inspector Boarder Beatdown"

I'm new here

Mf acting like it’s the player’s fault for using the cards Konami printed.

I laughed

@@PhyYuGiOh Mystic Mine Is The Folder Back Of Yu-Gi-Oh!Have You Played Mega Man Battle Network 3 Blue?!There Is A Reason They Nerfed It In The Legacy Collection,To Only Work Once And Not Bring Itself Back In PvP!Most BROKEN CARD IN BATTLE NETWORK AND STAR FORCE!!!!!!!!

Its like that ocg final that finally made konami kill stormwinds

Bro fuck yeah, I love me some Red/Blue Control/Burn! It's actually amusing to me how much this card resembles some type of powercrept White card though, considering it acts like a permanent unlike most "negate" type cards in MTG. Seeing effect damage referred to as "cheesy" in the beginning of this video was sad to me.

moat or solitary confinement remind me a lot of mystic mine

That's what I was thinking lol

stun is not needed to force S/T removal. control is releasing a good backrow deck at low rarity + SD means its more important as a common deck is S/T based.

Sure, tell everybody your secret consistent and generic spell/trap removal that's not on monsters. Or are you also one of those casual players thinking you only need a playset of mst in your deck to beat mine?

ahhahahahaha it's all good, most people should realize that its the card not the player 🤣

@@PhyYuGiOhyeah but u still feel dirty inside (and outside) 😂 Good riddance

Except that mine stops pretty much any deck that doesn't have in archetype backrow removal and it was actually used in those exact combo decks.

@@nicolaistuhlmuller8718 Sounds like the combo decks are the problem TBH.

@@ChaosSwissroIl both are the problem. Mine is broken in any deck that plays it and stops most decks that don't have in archetype backrow removal.

Stay ez

and it's all because one guy wanted to make it a floodgate wincon as much as possible

@@luigifan4585 Honestly I admire people who go against the wave and do everything withing their power to make the thing they want to use work. These people know what they want.

A 60 turn game with 40 second turns is infinitely more engaging, interactive, and fun than a 2 turn game with 20 minute turns.

L take

@@Joker-yq4mn you sound like someone who likes the otk meta lmfao. Idk i think its more fun when theres strategy and thought involved in the game play

@@dantehensley6799 What otk meta? Is there any go second otk strategy in this format or what, well I hate to break it to you but uh, there is none. Also I don't know what year you were referring to as "years ago"(The DM/GX era I guess, idfk). There are strategies in the modern era, tech cards choices, learning game states, learning different lines of your combo, not just mindlessly normal summon ash add poplar etc. You can just pick up a meta deck, look up some guides and play in tournaments yes but you wouldn't do well. You need to put time and effort into learning the deck, even if it's the MONKE deck like stun, you still need to know what the opponent's decks is doing so you can find choke points. Also, deck building is a key thing throughout the entire history of yugioh and it still is to this day. Having the skill to deck build better than the other players is substantial. But I can see why the older formats is more well received than the current one, they are not fully into building archetype decks, you can just play different generic cards and put em together. Generally I don't think the game sucks ass(also do you want to talk about old decks that are as broken as todays' deck? Like magical scientist ftk, exodia ftk, airblade etc. yugioh was broken back in the day and it still is today), admittedly it is much more fast pace than the before but that's just how games evolve without a rotation (I also play magic, pokmon tcg and other tcgs. So without a rotation you can't really balance the game without printing more powerful cards/straight up murder every deck and also, we don't have mana bases so it's more harder to balancing)

200% agree bud

It goes unresolved, and then they will release another easily exploitative, game breaking card for money and repeat the cycle. We never get anywhere and yugitubers recycle the same tired, boring discussions. Demanding bans is not enough when they don't fix the underlying issue with the game itself.