This is why SHIELDS win battles! - Total War Tactics: Warhammer 3 

Shileds truly

Just gas stationing you. The lesser known but okay version of gas lighting

Massive shields Boney bodies with no soft stuff and tons of gaps And a bronze shield, no missile resistance, or anything else of note.

Well they are from an age of bronze

@@deadzone4155 hahaha

But they get rolled over by any decent cav

Yeah, although you'll mostly be aiming those missles at their constructs tbh, and with that logic in mind, normal arrows should be ineffective against these living statues.

Or for the Shiny Elves, the Boys from Lothern. I completed/ripped through my first HE campaign VH/VH with a full stack of Sheilded Seaguard as my main army (and indeed most of my armies)

dark shard is stupidly cheap and they can outshoot even armored gun units that above their tiers.

@@nickharvey7233 So expensive though

darkshards in campaign with shields are low-key op. low tier, AP and have shields. Basically Good against everything they are not in melee combat with

I can never seem to get the hang of dark elves. I like the sound of them and they look cool, but they never seem to perform how I would like. They rout too easily and are very squishy in general.

Could you explain the math on that? Assuming the missed arrows are 15% and shield is 35%, just want to understand it

​​@@albertlofling7310k so if 15% miss you have 85% hitting and then 35% of that 85% of the ammo hitting is being blocked.

I understand that that is how the math should work, but how do we know that that is how it works. Video games pretty typically do things weird. Do we know that it is calculated from the some of the arrows that are going to hit or from the original volley?

@@ecargfosreya makes more sense to calculate if it will hit the unit first since missile resist and shields arent universal

@@The_Delta_Shadow true, took me a second to realize your statement should be correct, thought it through as such, archers fire 100 arrows, 15 miss entirely therefore the unit in question never attempted to block those arrows, but 85 arrows still are capable of hitting the unit out of these 85, 35% are blocked by the unit with their shield. The 35% chance only ever could act upon an arrow that would hit and therefore to use 35% of 100 would be wrong as the unit never even attempted to block 15 of the arrows as they never came close to hitting the unit. they only attempted to block 85 arrows because those arrows would hit if not blocked. Honestly didn't even occur to think about it at first.

Isn't explosive damage only on artillery shots which is not blocked by shields anyway?

@@mmorkinism Nope, there are plenty of other sources of explosive damage such as blasting charges, grenades, poisoned wind globes, fireleech bolas and other weapons.

If anything, shouldn't it be the reverse that a direct hit from the fired missile ignores the shield but the explosion is blocked?

@@alex_zetsu Think about everyone around whoever gets hit by a launched grenade or whatever.

@@roland228There are many things in real life that can stop the fragments of a grenade, but won't save you from a bullet, which is why I think logic says it should be the reverse. On the other hand, getting a direct hit with artillery is really hard.

Or.. just always shoot the caster lol

hes a youtuber

It was a simplification

​@@tl3033what, youtubers are idiots? Also they don't know how to use google? Perfectly valid correction.

​@@sarahshaw7315it was bad math, no need to simplify what's already simple. It's not rocket science

@@joaolemes8757 don’t try make yourself sound smarter then you probably are.

Exactly that. It doesnt matter how the game calculates it, 15% was loose probability and maths are done that way.

I see precisely no reason for that percentage to take loosed shots into account, especially since accuracy exists, too. Obviously, it's the percentage of landed hits, so zerk's math is sound

it also depend on units, some units dont miss any shots at all, others miss a lot, the more they miss the less effect the shield is, so the more expert archer the better the shields are ^^

yes; if 15% is lost before hit then only 85% hits, so it's 55% of 85% which is roughly 47% so 47%+15% that missed= 62% not 55+15= 70% which is 8% more.

55.25 % is the ratio of arrows hitting, not the one missing. Subtract this number from 100% to get the percentage of shots missing. (Logically if the ratio of arrows the the 35% is applied to goes down, the ratio of the arrows missing is affected less). The correct percentage values are 100 * (1 - 0.85 * (1-0.35)) , i.e. 44.75%; for silver shields (55%) this results in 61.75% .

Putting a shield on the meatshield to prolong it's meatshielding capabilities. I like it

but all goblins deserve to die so its never a waste to shoot them -goblin slayer, probably.

I saw this in another video here on youtube, a guy named Zerkovich..

@@KhorzIskariot Ah damn, how dare that factoid slip my mind! Nawh but that's entirely a fair call: just felt it worth a mention in case newbies to the game haven't seen it yet!

A good joke to be made there about not being able to see Chameleon Skinks.. :D And of course, they're a noteworthy mention. Also, I do appreciate you went with harmless fun and normal response approach, and not getting offended, as it is customary on the internet nowadays. Respect, man. :)

Chameleon Skinks are double-dangerous, because they're almost as good as dedicated melee Skinks, they're hyperfast and your missiles won't see them coming. Anything not good in melee like Sisters or Orc Arrers simply can't handle them, so they get to pick and choose the best way to counter other missile units. They're a great unit for applying pressure, and definitely deserve more praise imo

+1 for the Chameleon Skinks. Best unit in the game. Hola, skinks!

they are fun as help to play, easy tho and cant make you grow comfortable and vulnerable if you play others, playing against them is a nightmare, those sob yous refuse to give up

These will add the "missile resistance: xx%" status (grey shield on red background) it does not block missiles but reduces its damage. The value varies and is displayed on the description.

@@akaviri5 Thanks

Because shields specifically state to block "light missile projectiles" and those units you mentioned have different projectiles.

it doesnt but improves the damage to Morale and ignores the use of the shield, the missile will get in

yes ignore the animation they are gonna block them missiles

Pretty sure it is calculated per projectile. But it really shouldn't change a lot about the 35% overall

You wouldnt be able to code total block chance if you dont knkw the total number yet.. I cant see that working. Just one note,not all bronze shields are 35%, its 35 or lower. That new RoR blue horror has only 10% for example

I believe it's *if* single missile would hit unit *then* you have 35/55% chance it will be blocked.

I thought it still apply for most model in a unit, only modelvpn the front in melee combat, the rest still have their shield animation on head to cover missle

On dwarf warriors shields are worth 10 MD

General game mechanics and battle strategies are same.

In that case you should probably focus on using your elite troops to fight off the infantry and lord and setup an ambush party to flank their ranged units . Once the AI commits to the attack, the ambush party should come out running towards the back of the ranged units and disrupting their formation.This would give your front line a much easier time when dealing with the enemy front line. Note that the flank does not necessarily need to kill off all the ranged units, they can be cannon fodder to distract the ranged units or just there to hold the line and force ranged units to go on melee combat(which they usually suck at). But of course the best would be having some cavalry as they are quick and powerful when disrupting enemy lines. I would recommend you to go through some basic military tactics such as the hammer and anvil (which usually works great in almost any race) and try to be creative with your approach of the battle Especially when skaven don't exactly have the strongest frontline in the early campaigns. To beat the skaven, you must learn to be more cunning than them

saurus are hard hitting line holders, temple guard are elite hard hitting line holders, but not fighters, the moment you tie up a enemy unit you need to help your line holders or else they will die eventually, you can use a monster, magic (careful with bombardments and vortex, use tear shaped spells and aim em right, land flanking units flying units your heros or lords, cavalry for hammer and anvil

thing is, you cant use them as VC without allience, you cant depend on an unit to win, makes the game boring predictable and you will lock yourself

i so hate ammo is a thing; but fetigue can only hit a semi low minus effect compared to the actual effect of muscles just collapsing, but ammo, nooo big limits on those :P

Manfred threw a hissy-fit about not gaining the supreme death magic over Naggash and sabotaged the ritual to stop the rnd-times, effectively leading to the end of Warhammer fantasy and the creation of age of sigmar

@@Uwawa96 completely understandable hate