Thanks Manny. So far I have looked at several early reviews and to be honest for what I shoot I can't see enough of feature advantages to warrant upgrading from my R5. I see they have merged more of the R5C into the R5 II so if you are migrating to video/hybrid shooting then the new R5 II might be justified. Maybe a year or two down the road I might get a discounted R5 II and keep the R5 as a backup. I have loaned my 5D MkIV to a friends daughter to help her photography career... thinking back, I could have kept the 5D MkIV and not got the R5 and I would still have been happy. I feel we are often sucked into the hype of new gear and often can waste a lot of money.
@@zegzbrutal It's the difference between the new R5 II price here in the UK which is £4,499 and the trade in price of my current R5 of around £1,600... £2,899. Which means I would be paying £2,899 for a camera with slightly better stacked cmos sensor and slightly better IBIS & AF. But, as far as image quality and getting the shot or more keeper images, it is marginal. The R5 is still a great camera and takes amazing images. I was expecting to see more in the R5 II, especially with AI, a better articulated rear screen (like the Sony) and a better menu system, anti-theft security features. the merging of some R5C video features is welcome but only if you are a hybrid shooter as it does not meet the standards and features of a dedicated cinema camera. E.g. does the R5 II meet Netflix standards like the R5C ?
Wow, I am hearing ALOT of talk about a Stacked CMOS sensor, but nobody will tell me how this camera takes better photos. I get it, great at focusing, but I never had a problem focusing my old r5. Improved dynamic range? Crickets. I am mainly landscape, so maybe this upgrade is not for me. If I am wrong, tell me. Thanks!
People don't talk about eye control enough, it's awesome. I'm left-eyed and the R3 eye control works much better in vertical, but still works fine enough in horizontal. But I welcome it in the R52 as well. It's great, not just for sports but many other things.
6:02 Can we please talk about how in 2024 we still have these bar indicators for battery life? Why in the world havent we switched to percent readings for these cameras in the thousands of dollars? I know its a small nitpick but its one that gets under my skin the most.... i hate wondering if my battery is at 28% or at 45% when theres 2/4 bars on the screen
@RiposteThis yeah I got that but I suppose I was referring to the industry as a whole. Like this tech has been abandoned in other devices for 10+ years already
@@zegzbrutal how is the n-log poor? It's pretty great. You get raw up to 4k 120fps. The r5's image looks like it is super compressed and has a shit ton of aliasing and moire in the 4k formats that are line skipping, which is every frame rate beyond 30fps. The r5c even is a much better video camera today.
@@gourami7 both really. But today, I'd say Nikon has a much better lens selection as the entire Tamron lineup is available too, some sigmas and you can adapt all e-mount ones.
Thank you. I shoot both EOS R5 and Sony A1 and other bodies. Key question I want the answer to is how does it really compare to the Sony A1? 45-50 Mpixels is the sweet spot for me and now that both have a stacked BSI sensor how are do they compare as a stills camera? That is a head to head comparison I want to see. Take care.
My only complaint about the R5 Mark II is that it's a downgrade from the R5C in ONE category. The R5C has proven that 8K oversampled 4K60p is possible and Nikon had 8K oversampled 4K60p for years but the R5 Mark II still limits it to only 30fps (4K-D Fine and 4K-U Fine are limited to 30fps). The R5 Mark II would be capable of 8K oversampled 4K60p as R5C has proven but Canon seemingly doesn't want to give us oversampled 4K60p to leave it as an exclusive feature for their R5C. Their newest R5 Mark II should at least match everything their older R5C was capable of. Canon gave us 8K oversampled 4K60p and then took it from us again. Cutting features from your newest flagship camera to leave them as exclusive features on an older camera even though their new camera would technically be capable of is a bad look! It's not too late to fix this by bringing 8K oversampled 4K60p to the R5 Mark II with a firmware update though. PLEASE CANON!
I dont shoot sports my r5 OG is STILL awesome... if i need clog2 I USE the v+ it gives you CLOG2 in pr raw 8k 5k60 IF you have this set up choose clog 3 and cinema gamut and the HDMI sends CLOG2 at least according to the atomos v+
Nice Update! Looks like a great all around camera. Sooo many great cameras out there now from Canon, Nikon, Sony, Leica, Panasonic, OM, Fuji. The competition is stiff. At a point where just pick one and go out and shoot.
I'm really shocked and surprised at the terrible conversations going on here. Half of it seems like Sony lovers invasion and the rest of it just seems like people who don't have a clue about cameras and think of them as iPhones like every single one needs to be revolutionary. The state of these comments is really really sad and I don't really remember seeing this before in Manny's comment section. Some of you guys are way too unintelligent to be in here and even try to discuss these features it is way over your head.
Manny maybe you can help. I picked up the R5ii and man it’s really nice. I can tell that it is a bit better then my r5 but today I tried to shoot it in hss with my fj400 and it would not go pass 1/250th. My r3 and my r5 have no problem with hss when I switch on the trigger. I shoot with the westscott. I hope you can help.
Brilliant knowledge…you got your presentation nailed… I’ve learned a lot… not just with the cameras but with how u made this 👏👏👏…we have preordered r52 to go with our r3 and 1dx2…I’m wondering if it completely silent shutter or adjustable like r3 in electronic.. although overall I’d love to have 45mp in a r1 body having used 1 series since04 the price tho in uk 🇬🇧 is scandalous 🤬
@@DelusionalNYCI don’t think he’s being modest I think he’s expressing how busy he is and how he doesn’t necessarily get to enjoy life as much as you may think! Not that he doesn’t enjoy life but that’s what was implied I believe lol
You say you would consider the R5ll for your main sports camera. So whats your main camera for portrait work ? How does the R5ll eye auto focus work along with the eye control ? I have been with Sony since buying my A7r lll around six years ago. But i only have 3 Sony lenses. The 28/55 and 85 f1.8. Because i wanted to keep things small and light. And my camera is still in like new condition. But i still own my 5Dlll and all my Canon mount glass. I am wondering how good older Canon mount glass works with the R5ll. Including Tamron and Sigma glass. Which only works ok on my Sony. The R5ll has me thinking about Canon again. But i have been staying with Sony because of top quality 3rd party glass. Even though i haven't bought any of it yet for my Sony. And also because Canon and Nikons top glass is all so big and heavy like there 50 and 85 f1.2 lenses and there 28/70 f2 lens. Anyway i am ready to treat myself to a new camera. But i might still wait to see whats next from Sony. If i bought the R5ll i would start out by adapting my old glass that i barely ever use on my Sony. But then i think with 4000 dollars i could buy a few really nice new lenses for my A7r lll. I wish i could see a color comparison between an A7r lll and A7rV. And also the R5ll. Because recently i have been looking at some of my older images ftom my 5Dlll and really like how they look. So im going to try playing around with my 5Dlll again. Even though the focusing system is outdated and low tec. Sorry for the long rambling comment. Ive been holding back investing big in Sony to see what Nikon and Canon was going to do. But they keep making huge and heavy glass with almost no 3rd party options.
That’s almost $6k Canadian, making the Z8 a compatible camera at a better price $500 cheaper). I find canon has priced themselves at the top (between Sony, Canon and Nikon) for both body and lens options
It's impossible to justify any of Sony camera bodies' prices. After recent events (Nikon Z6 III, Canon R5 II & R1 announcement) it's more and more apparent that Sony camera bodies from A7 IV, through A7R V all the way to A1 are heavily overpriced.
Uhhh, it's like 4 years old at this point. Technically, you could get it for way less if you know where to get. Otherwise, it's still Sony's flagship so they can justify its price
@@reina5834 Uhh, yeah it’s a 4 year old camera with no reduction in price. Uhh, the other brands lowered the price on all their cameras. And uhh, the features are the same as the $3500-$4200 cameras for other brands.
I think the biggest thing that doesn't get much mention are the new cinema video codecs, and also the video menu system. Hahah, funny to see you and Fro together at the beginning. That picture at 2:59 is epic btw!
Hi I shot film for four decades and sometimes Motorsport and take it from me the “keeper” rate is a lot better now with the duds costing nothing compared to a lot of $$ 😀 You had to think ahead , pre focus on a point and just go for it . 😀
interesting thing is, in China, R5II is offcially 27999 CNY(3850 USD) and second hand SONY A1 being 28000 CNY to 32000 CNY(3850-4400USD) while brand new A1 being 34000CNY to 35000CNY(4800 USD). personally I'd take A1 in that case given the overall ecosystem
The One? Isn't it the SECOND one? At best, the R5 II is an iterative improvement. Lots of interesting new features...many of which will not be used by the typical shooter. Upscaling and noise reduction are something I think most will always choose to do in post.
Thank Manny for this video. I would like to add one thing, please. It’s SAD that these days camera manufacturers justify their price increase by adding flashy but IMPRACTICAL features like upscaling jpg files to 180 megapixels! Why don’t Sony and Canon add 32 BIT FLOAT internal audio recording to their cameras? That will help the majority of camera users who are solo shooters. Panasonic LUMIX GH7 already has it. All the pros know audio is worth 50% of their videos. If the audio is bad, then the video is useless.
I may have missed it in your video; but does it come with 2nd curtain sync for non-canon external flash? I have to use Sony on some commercial shoots because my R5 doesn't offer 2nd curtain sync with my profoto's.
Go Phils! The R5 was alreday Jesus in a camera, now we have AI assisted viewfinders and subject tracking, this is amazing and i never knew Manny shot sports?? I mean, you're on the real MLB field
Next time I'll be excited for a new camera is when we have a next gen Global Shutter. New cameras nowadays have stagnated... Global Shutter is the future.
I'm thinking about buying a system camera soon. Since I don't have any lenses yet, it's easier. In general, I would like Nikon (e.g. Z8) prefer, but too big and too heavy. Z6 III (size would be just right) too expensive (still) for delivered performance. Z7II outdated in terms of Autofocus.. R5 MK2 with better size , better weight than the Z8 , and with one of the best Autofocus. For amateurs like me, who don't earn money with it, both would be greatly exaggerated. But buying again in a short time would be even more expensive. Better to buy once and then be satisfied for a longer period of time.
I wouldn’t give up on an A7R5 if I had the pleasure of owning one, either. It’s a beast! But there are some things that this new R5 mk2 can do that no other body can. The R5 mk2 has improved the DR to 14-bit RAW in Electronic Shutter mode, which is a really big deal for people that want to stay silent and still get maximum image quality! We will see what the practical limitations are in terms of FPS w.r.t. and AF accuracy - R7 mk1 had some notable AF accuracy inconsistencies at full H+ speed, and it remains to be seen if the R5 mk2 has decisively solved that issue with the new DIGIC Accelerator chip added.
@@MannyOrtiz My only complaint about the R5 Mark II is that it's a downgrade from the R5C in ONE category. The R5C has proven that 8K oversampled 4K60p is possible and Nikon had 8K oversampled 4K60p for years but the R5 Mark II still limits it to only 30fps (4K-D Fine and 4K-U Fine are limited to 30fps). The R5 Mark II would be capable of 8K oversampled 4K60p as R5C has proven but Canon seemingly doesn't want to give us oversampled 4K60p to leave it as an exclusive feature for their R5C. Their newest R5 Mark II should at least match everything their older R5C was capable of. Canon gave us 8K oversampled 4K60p and then took it from us again. Cutting features from your newest flagship camera to leave them as exclusive features on an older camera even though their new camera would technically be capable of is a bad look!! It's not too late to fix this by bringing 8K oversampled 4K60p to the R5 Mark II with a firmware update though.
I assume that the new R5 II does not have the ridiculous 30 min video record time limit. I can't figure why Canon doesn't just give us a firmware update to remove the limit from the R5.
@@DreamReleases R5 doesn't overheat anymore... hasn't for about 2 years now as firmware fixed all that. As for the 30 min record limit, that will never be lifted from the old R5.
@@DreamReleases Did that really happen ? I know that phones can explode, mine nearly did. But I think the reason is some tax that was applied for devices that recorded for more than 30 mins... but I am not sure. Either way, I don't see a reason to keep the 30 min limit on the R5 other than to encourage people to buy a new camera that doesn't have the limit.
I don't understand how he's saying the R5 is known for its great dynamic range. It's not at all - it's known for having relatively poor dynamic range compared to other equivalently priced cameras. Did it maybe have very good dynamic range for stills, but not for video or something like that? I don't know if that's possible, but maybe... Otherwise what he's saying seems very odd for a camera reviewer.
I was wondering the same thing. The artificial limit is the one thing about my R5 that I can't stand. Manny, did Canon tell the influencers not to talk about this? Still, great video.
Great video! Pretty unique for you to do some comparison with other cameras just to not overyhype this new camera. I've been on the sidelines waiting to see this camera but I just can't justify buying the R5 II in my personal use case, maybe a used R5 down the road but I'm still satisfied with my R6 I. I'm currently in the phase of investing in good glass but this R5 II is really a grail Canon body for sure.
Funny how this is like $2000 cheaper than the R1, but has everything I'd want in a flagship camera. But also, the R5 mkI can be bought for like $2000 less than this on Ebay, so hmmm....
Every model may be "the one" and eventually disappoints, until one tries the GFX, because no matter how good the bells and whistles, image quality reigns supreme.
@magmaz9465 The Blad rocks, but wait till you try the Horseman! Absolutely agree though; it's just this bullshit that every new camera may be the new best that ages pretty quickly.
