This New Sudoku Rule Is SUPERB

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** TODAY'S PUZZLE **
Oddlyeven returns to the channel today with a lovely new ruleset that's simple but deep enough that it leads to some lovely logic. If you get a few minutes of puzzle time to spare, you could do a lot worse than donating it to this sudoku!
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Rules:
Normal sudoku rules apply. Digits along a line sum to the product of the digits in the squares at either end of the line (NB If it is the same square (eg r8c8) multiply that digit with itself). The sum does not include the digits in the squares. Digits may repeat on a line if permitted by the other rules.
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@istvanmagi473 4 месяца назад

How Simon's mind works: "So we've already worked out that this cannot be a 9. So what can it be? 1, 4, 5, 6 or 9. What if it's 9?"

@davidh.4944 4 месяца назад

My favorite was one from a couple of years ago where he marked a pair of boxes with 45, then immediately-as in 2 seconds later-wondered "why is there a 45 pair here?" He fretted about it so much he ended up deleting it and backtracking several steps to redo the whole section with different logic.

@janerobson2297 4 месяца назад

I know this is so Simon. But if he had as good a memory as his insight he'd be so scary. His intelligence would know no bounds and he'd take over the world before we knew it!

@theonlyben921 4 месяца назад

@@davidh.4944 Do you remember exactly which puzzle that was? I have tried to go back and find that one and I have not been able to find it. (In fact, I am remembering it as just a five.)

@davidh.4944 4 месяца назад

@@theonlyben921Sorry, I'm afraid not. I think it was sometime during the lockdown, maybe late 2020, but I could be wrong about the details anyway. I mostly just remember how hilarious it was at the time.

@hanness8536 4 месяца назад

38:22 "we worked out this couldnt be 9" 38:34 "9 might be possible" 12 seconds- too funny

@nonyobisniss7928 4 месяца назад

I feel like ADHD is both a blessing and a curse for sudoku solving.

@krtwood 4 месяца назад

Simon isn't any fun at parties so he ignores himself.

@jensschmidt 4 месяца назад

He was missing Sudoko left, right and center, as usual... Oh, Simon, never change!

@oddlyeven8775 4 месяца назад

Thanks for solving my puzzle! I first encountered this ruleset in a puzzle by starwarigami a while back. I had this idea for the break-in and finally got around to turning it into a puzzle. Mathematics aside: (And spoilers) The break-in is related to the secret - Let S be the sum of the digits 1 to N. I won't prove it here, but it can be shown that S = N*(N + 1)/2. Rearranging, we get that N^2 = 2*S - N, which is what is happening on the long line. A similar set up would work for any size grid.

@chironchangnoi 4 месяца назад

Thank you for this brilliant puzzle!

@Anne_Mahoney 4 месяца назад

I love these arithmetical challenges -- very nice puzzle!

@aaronsebastian5156 4 месяца назад

This is one of my favorites, loved this ruleset. Excellent job.

@deszeldra 4 месяца назад

It was a very fun puzzle! I tried it on my 11 year old who is refusing to learn times tables, but they weren't interested. Sigh.

@Orenotter 4 месяца назад

That shoutout almost made me cry. One more thing I'd like you to try, The next vid you've created You should dedicate it To yourself, 'cause you're such a great guy! Thank you for being so kind and for being one of the best parts of our day every day.

@vulkandrache1928 4 месяца назад

"There is a 1 on the line by sudoku" for a row thats completely known. Sometimes i want an eye tracker to see what you are looking at in these situations.

@sasukuto 4 месяца назад

I'm so glad I chose to click on this video today, because I completely forgot about Daylight savings and I have things I need to do tomorrow! I would have been running late all day!

@simonbrooks6921 4 месяца назад

Solved it in just under 2 hours! With a very small bit of help from the video here and there when I was stuck. Thank you Simon! - from a fellow Simon

@_raumplaner6575 4 месяца назад

Shout out to starwarigami for developing the ruleset back in 2022 ❤

@boman987 4 месяца назад

I’ve been playing Islands of Insight. I am so excited for you to play again. I’ve been having a blast. BEAM

@SuperPlienie 4 месяца назад

Thanks so much for the birthday wishes! You pronounced Mmmbokke perfectly, amazing!😂

@longwaytotipperary 4 месяца назад

Happy birthday!

@Philologia 4 месяца назад

Now that I have started trying out these puzzles, I always get such a kick when I see you are doing a puzzle I have solved :) Eager to see how this play out!

@angec9908 2 месяца назад

“I wasn’t thinking about sudoku.” Should be played on a loop in the background of all of Simon’s videos.

@gabriels3706 4 месяца назад

What a lovely rule! That made for a really fun puzzle, I hope we see this rule again - one fun thing that Simon didnt mention is that the sums on the lines can never be prime, which is a really nice restriction I havent seen before

@stephenbeck7222 4 месяца назад

They could if you had 1 and prime ‘X’ in the squares and a two or three cell sum line that adds to X. Or even a one cell line that is diagonal and in a different box from the square cell with the X. It just worked out in the geometric design of this puzzle there were no such instances.

@zaphodbeeblebrox-fz5fh 4 месяца назад

That's not true. Small primes are possible, if there is a 1 in one of the squares. But it is true for lines of length at least 4.

@jimmyh2137 4 месяца назад

Well, you can't have primes bigger than 7. But wait for the Shroedinger Doublers version of this puzzle to mess everything up XD

@aaronsebastian5156 4 месяца назад

This is my favorite puzzle and ruleset, to date. I will usually give myself 5-10 minutes to figure the break in before letting Simon do his thing, this time I worked it through before watching to see if my strategies and logic matched. I hope we see more of these.

@emilywilliams3237 4 месяца назад

Very nice. I tried a bit of this before watching your solve, Simon, just to see what some of the potential interactions would be - and it seemed very interesting! Yours was a lovely solve - thank you!

@longwaytotipperary 4 месяца назад

❤ 3s in the corner and the song!! 🎶

@davidrattner9 4 месяца назад

Never gets old for me and always a pleasure to see the joy om Simon's face. 🙂

@longwaytotipperary 4 месяца назад

@@davidrattner9 absolutely!! Simon’s happy face lights up the world!!! ☺️

@Gonzalo_Garcia_ 4 месяца назад

14:22 for me. Great puzzle, I really liked the ruleset!

@HeartsOfGrey 3 месяца назад

I've been solving these puzzle for a few days by occassionally checking the video if I get stuck. On one hand, it feels kinda cheaty to get help from the video, but its been very helpful for learning new methods that then make solving the next puzzle require less video checks. My ability to solve sudoku has gone up dramatically from just process of elimination basics to having tools around set theory. It's been a great learning experience. I appreciate the detailed walk through of your thought process.

@b0kkeee 4 месяца назад

Your pronunciation is perfect! Although they usually accentuate the mmmm a bit more ;). When I was in Canada 15 years ago, our tourguide would call me Booke, so consider me impressed!

@angec9908 2 месяца назад

“How did I get this digit?” Makes me laugh every time.

@Orenotter 4 месяца назад

Fnaire here on Oren's account. Thank you so much for reading out the poem! (Giggles like a little girl)

@bobblebardsley 4 месяца назад

"...if you travel by imagination" gave me a two-stage response of all-over chills and then tears in my eyes, which is the second time this week this channel has done that, the first being the recent outro of Simon singing Stick Season by Noah Kahan. So thank you both, and happy birthdays all round ❤

@studgerbil9081 4 месяца назад

Very nice ruleset. I think Mark did one just the other day, but his puzzle included the cells in the squares as well (maybe they were circles), so that ruled out 1s right away.

@angec9908 2 месяца назад

“This cell can’t be 9.” 5 seconds later “Can this cell be 9?”😂

@ericpraline1302 4 месяца назад

Interesting puzzle, thanks. Once I'd worked out that I would have to use my brain to solve it and that simply staring at it wasn't going to cut it, it was quite a smooth ride.

@unrealed 4 месяца назад

Simon, you can click the check button again to see the "Congrats" screen with the stats again

@VeritasUnae 4 месяца назад

I tried this one myself but couldn’t get much further beyond the 9 deduction. I did get the 3 in another way, but it turns out I was just grouping the lines in box 9 a weird way giving me 4 degrees of freedom, not 3. So I decided to just watch Simon’s solve from there. A great accomplishment!

@chocolateboy300 4 месяца назад

I got 97 minutes. This one was a fun one. Ii was very fun doing math to figure out which number had to in the square in box 9 by using row 9 and column 9. Overall, great puzzle!

@user-kt9vr1wj6y 4 месяца назад

73:33 for me struggle for box 1&9 and spent over half an hour glad to finish it,nice puzzle

@kenbolsen8295 4 месяца назад

Sum-Product Lines are an interesting rule set. Made me math in a confounding way.

@praematura 4 месяца назад

Apparently I solved this a while back, time was 39:18 (conflict checker off); I did ponder trying it again as I don't remember the solve much, but I think the time is decent enough. 🙂 I do remember that it was a really cool puzzle, props to Oddlyeven for it!

@andremouss2536 4 месяца назад

30:00 Typical of Simon not to do the simple sudoku thing (a two in R3C7) but embarking on a calculation first 😂

@Raven-Creations 3 месяца назад

@ 24:20 - "Does that do anything else?" - Yes, it does everything. It takes 4 out of the 234s in box 3, forcing 6 in R2C8, and 3 into C9 in box 6. As usual, you place digits without looking what they do, or tidying up pencil-marks. This was a real facepalming moment. @ 27:28 - considering whether R2C2 can be 2 or 3 - Of course they can't! Look to the right. You've got a 23. If it were 2 or 3, the 4-cell line would have to sum to 6. If you work on the line in R2, R2C2 can only be 5 or 8. 8 doesn't work with the 4 in C2, because the column would be 32 + 4 + 8 + 9 +..., therefore it has to be 5 with the digits outside the line summing to 7, which has to be 1+6, with the 6 at the top An interesting rule, but I'm not a fan of maths puzzles like this. It's not that I'm maths averse, it's just that once you've done the maths there isn't much puzzle left.

@frankjiang1857 4 месяца назад

Finished in 35:59. Interesting new ruleset, though it involves a LOT of math...... Fun puzzle!

@windybeach2184 4 месяца назад

Yes to crepes with lemon & sugar! I grew up with these in Australia :)

@MaierFlorian 4 месяца назад

We defenitely had this rule once in a puzzle not too long ago, but can't remember which one it was. Loveley usage of this rule, nevertheless :)

@chipsounder4633 4 месяца назад

Cobra's curse by icyfruit had this ruleset on brown lines ❤

@kevinwalkotten9057 4 месяца назад

Interesting how we need to achieve entropy between the chained sums- like the rule set.

@leefisher6366 4 месяца назад

21:24 - And since there isn't a three in the digits adding to nine... ... That's three in the corner!! That's three in the spot light proving it's position!!

@anaayoung9142 4 месяца назад

Great one. I had a great start, but after did box 9 I didn't know what to do anymore 😅

@virtuous-sloth 4 месяца назад

The only way I can work through these puzzles is to forge ahead until I get stuck, then watch Simon until he shows me some logic I've missed (or shows me a mistake I've made). So at one point I press play to learn, by 23:35, how Simon discovers location of 4 in box 7, then he says "...does that not do anything?...". But at that point I've PencilMark'd *all* of row 9, column 9, and box 9 while Simon, as usual, has eschewed that until absolutely necessary. So I see immediately what the 4 in box 7 does in box 9. Presumably Mark did as well. I do find doing a lot of pencil marking to be noisy like Simon does, but I just cannot keep the invisible possibilities are my fingertips like Simon. That and I make so many unwarranted assumptions which ruin my logic. ;-)

@monkerud2108 4 месяца назад

the 45 pair in box 9 would have been a nice pencil mark to have when you got the 4 in box 7 :D! at 23:30

@thomasstuder1624 4 месяца назад

It is amusing how Simon subconsciously has the cursor on an obvious cell at 42:08 but then moves on and keeps ignoring it multiple times.

@piarittersporn 4 месяца назад

Brilliant puzzle.

@nintySW 4 месяца назад

Decided to try this on my own, It took me about *three hours*....... Really fun though!

@ColinKern 4 месяца назад

I first thought "The sum does not include the digits in the squares" means you can't repeat the digits in the squares on the line. Of course row 1 and column 1 of this puzzle immediately show that's the wrong interpretation, but if this rule is used in future puzzles it might be good to word it differently.

@pairot01 4 месяца назад

That's not a correct interpretation of the rule. It says the *sum* doesn't include those digits, not the digits on the line.

@nonyobisniss7928 4 месяца назад

@@pairot01 It's not the intended interpretation, but it is a perfectly valid interpretation. The sum is the sum of the digits on the line, so if the summation of the digits on the line (i.e. "the sum") doesn't include the digits in the squares that would mean the digits in the squares do not appear elsewhere on the line, at least by this alternative reading of the rules. I read the rules as intended, but I can see how someone could be led astray. Writing rules to be precise yet not overly long is difficult.

@aksp8727 4 месяца назад

"So this square has to be literally a square", both "a 4-sided graph" and "multiplying by itself"🤣

@MyriamTT 4 месяца назад

I liked this ruleset. It's simple, as sudoku rules have to be.

@Mephistokles333 4 месяца назад

really great puzzle - my way to solve it was a bit different from Simons (and it took my 2 hours -.-) but I did ^.^

@inspiringsand123 4 месяца назад

Rules: 06:35 Let's Get Cracking: 08:24 What about this video's Top Tier Simarkisms?! Three In the Corner: 7x (21:55, 22:15, 22:21, 23:14, 24:55, 26:14) The Secret: 4x (08:44, 09:18, 09:44, 28:21) Bobbins: 3x (23:41, 25:25, 41:52) Nori Nori: 2x (04:46, 04:49) And how about this video's Simarkisms?! Ah: 12x (11:40, 11:40, 22:50, 24:46, 25:28, 33:16, 33:29, 36:32, 36:45, 38:57, 38:57, 43:39) By Sudoku: 11x (25:30, 25:33, 26:34, 28:43, 30:09, 31:52, 33:11, 41:41, 44:14, 44:18) Sorry: 6x (03:40, 15:36, 23:49, 23:49, 39:41, 40:14) Cake!: 6x (03:14, 05:48, 05:51, 05:54, 06:08, 06:19) Lovely: 4x (01:00, 02:59, 45:39, 46:12) Beautiful: 4x (06:02, 06:14, 42:05, 46:54) Bother: 3x (37:52, 37:52, 43:18) Hang On: 3x (06:57, 31:13, 42:13) Obviously: 3x (10:11, 11:44, 45:28) Pencil Mark/mark: 3x (22:30, 23:05, 33:29) Brilliant: 2x (45:42, 45:47) Gorgeous: 2x (45:55, 45:57) In Fact: 2x (04:17, 10:27) Clever: 1x (22:55) In the Spotlight: 1x (25:00) Incredible: 1x (02:13) Shouting: 1x (05:09) Irritating: 1x (21:51) Surely: 1x (19:36) Phone is Buzzing: 1x (29:15) Wow: 1x (34:20) What Does This Mean?: 1x (06:57) Nature: 1x (25:51) Most popular number(>9), digit and colour this video: Fifteen (8 mentions) Three (68 mentions) Yellow (7 mentions) Antithesis Battles: High (3) - Low (3) Even (13) - Odd (1) Row (11) - Column (8) FAQ: Q1: You missed something! A1: That could very well be the case! Human speech can be hard to understand for computers like me! Point out the ones that I missed and maybe I'll learn! Q2: Can you do this for another channel? A2: I've been thinking about that and wrote some code to make that possible. Let me know which channel you think would be a good fit!

@yapayzeka3183 4 месяца назад

Nori nori 😂

@muskyoxes 4 месяца назад

"There will be a 3 in the corner of this puzzle" - well yeah, it's a rule going in

@mattevans2343 4 месяца назад

Love the content!

@leefisher6366 4 месяца назад

8:59 - Simon's Extremely Commonplace Revelation Explains This. 👍👍

@psiphiorg 4 месяца назад

What a fun design for this puzzle! My time today was 35:50, solver number 1175.

@trooperdog61 4 месяца назад

Canada too, is cursed with daylight savings time, we lose an hour of sleep Sunday

@srwapo 4 месяца назад

I put a bit of work into this (my timer says over 50 minutes, lol nowhere near that long), but I'm too tired and am just going to watch the video...

@johngiromini5745 4 месяца назад

Now that was interesting!

@jimi02468 4 месяца назад

I suggest that the new line could be called "the product sum line"

@gamingborger 4 месяца назад

oh boy. if Simon has to do sudoku XD saw a few times where i did sudoku and it take like a minute before Simon realizes he can do some sudoku XD

@ArborealStop 3 месяца назад

Thank you for the birthday wishes 😁

@johnbell9074 4 месяца назад

54 mins for me. Thanks!

@martinCaisse 4 месяца назад

46:50 with no help from the video, pretty proud of myself

@lsorense 4 месяца назад

My kids agree that crepes are the proper pancakes.

@bait6652 4 месяца назад

When the ruleset is easier to solve than sudokuing....got stuck on the. Inner 3 layers cuz I missed the blatant 6 sudoku that followed the 9.

@leefisher6366 4 месяца назад

Serious comment this time, Simon... do you think your Sudoku creators now *deliberately ensure* that there is at least one three in a corner? It seems to occur a lot more than randomness would suggest.

@karlmortenlunna2417 4 месяца назад

Very nice! 18:18 for me today.

@l0ganb3rry_ 4 месяца назад

I don't think I've seen Simon miss so many things as in this puzzle, between forgetting the deductions he made and the free digits he took a moment to fill in. Maybe all the lines and boxes were just over-stimulating

@agoristtaxadvice 4 месяца назад

Not a HUGE fan of this ruleset, but it's an excellent puzzle. Thanks.

@Close500 4 месяца назад

I made all of the sudoku and ended up with deadly pattern of 2 and 7 only realizing that r6c8 r8c6 line is not 6 but 8 therefore deleting my 30 minutes of "progress" :)

@user-zk3vh5wt9w 4 месяца назад

It always amazes me how Simon never misinterprets the most ambiguous rules ... in this case the sentence "The sum does not include the digits in the squares" can be interpreted in at least 3 ways, and I took the most logical one, because from the second rule it was already clear that the digits in the squares are not adding up to the sum and interpreted that the sum, for example "15" does not include the digits "5" and "3" and clearly 15 does, so was not valid. Therefore got horribly stuck when encountering that "solution" in the second row ... I want to give Simon the excercise (as a puzzle) to find out, especially for new rules, in how many ways some rules can be interpreted (by normal people 😊) ...

@leefisher6366 4 месяца назад

15:23 - And this is precisely where I gave up and started watching the solve.

@AWanderingSwordsman 4 месяца назад

45 minutes for me. A bit more math than I prefer but I still had a good time.

@Tsunami14 4 месяца назад

Are the Island of Insights streams on a different channel? I can't find it in the video listing.

@RichSmith77 4 месяца назад

No, this channel. I can see the first video in the list. It's four days old and appears right after the "Fencing is My New Favourite Sport" video.

@RichSmith77 4 месяца назад

Although I've just realised it doesn't appear in the channel's video list. You need to go to the "live" section. (It was appearing in my subscribed list with the other videos.)

@brobzoid 4 месяца назад

stream recordings are listed under the 'live' tab, not the 'videos' tab

@mudscuffer 3 месяца назад

Not sure why I even attempted this one given the video length, I think there were some quick people in the comments... Took me 1:12:55 though!

@cgibbard 4 месяца назад

Took me roughly 90 minutes, I missed the early deductions of row 2 column 1 and row 1 column 2 using the known sums.

@MattYDdraig 4 месяца назад

47:11 Loved the new ruleset, and the opening (well, second part really) was a very pretty deduction.

@ffets-SEP 3 месяца назад

And again: it took me double the time Simon used for this.

@gibbbon 4 месяца назад

solved it in twice your time, but solved it myself! (dang proud of meself)

@BryanPlonk 4 месяца назад

so happy to see you PLONK a 3 in the corner!!

@thescrewfly 4 месяца назад

Talking crepes to Dutch people, Simon? May the spirit of the pannekoek descend upon you!

@DUALE0 4 месяца назад

The sum does not include the digits in the squares so does that mean the line shouldn't have any 9 as well right? Or am I misinterpreting something?

@RichSmith77 3 месяца назад

I'm not sure how you reached that conclusion, but it's not correct. E.g. a line could be [3]294[5]. The digits in the end boxes multiply to give 15, and the digits on the line in-between also sum to 15, and include a 9. (Also, one of the first digits Simon gets is a 9 on a line, in r1c1 at 10:35.)

@immeschootu 4 месяца назад

Can someone explain the history/story of 3 in the corner to me? Watched quite some puzzles but always feel like I am missing something.

@emilmagerramov3017 4 месяца назад

Started watching a few months back so don't know the full story, but Simon always sings a couple of lines from "REM - Losing my religion", changing a line from "that's me in the corner" to "that's three in the corner". I guess he just really likes the song

@daanrexwinkel8811 4 месяца назад

Also the sums on a line can never be prime numbers above 9

@lesheq85 4 месяца назад

i have been absent for some time. can someone explain to me what's with the "3 in the corner"?

@Ravaxr 3 месяца назад

That's me (three) in the corner / That's me (three) in the spotlight / losing my religion R.E.M. - Losing my religion

@_-_-Sipita-_-_ 4 месяца назад

22:38 for me.

@theredstoneengineer6934 4 месяца назад

38:27 for me

@evetheeevee2977 4 месяца назад

34:42 great puzzle! I liked it, logic was fun and not too difficult!

@LednacekZ 4 месяца назад

34:12 today. horrible solve. my brain did not cooperate. i more or less just bruteforced it.

@TurquoizeGoldscraper 4 месяца назад

60:28 for me.

@Max16hr 3 месяца назад

Slow, but solved in 140 minutes :D

@Pritchie45 4 месяца назад

62 minutes

@six_5000 4 месяца назад

and 2.9 hours later... I finally solved it 🙄

@megaminxpll 4 месяца назад

Daylight saving should be banned, it servers no purpose in the modern world imo.

@stephenbeck7222 4 месяца назад

The main argument is just to provide a smidge of consistency for the amount of daylight surrounding school in the winter vs the late spring/early fall (eg minimizing the amount of darkness that kids are in while getting on or off at bus stops). It would be too much work I suppose to adjust school start times throughout the year so instead we just make the whole population change their clocks.