This Nuke Strategy Is "Honestly Disgusting" 

those maps are over played, but they are a lot of fun if u get a team that talks and understands gameplay and eco.

When i play multiplayer, the rebel inside me will avoid this map

@@Amanredpill I almost refuse to play these two, only if I'm in a party and we had plans to play and can't find a good lobby

NEVER! Straits is the only map in the game!

Lmao

That's actually a great tip. Very out of the box thinking

Funny you should say that, I was experimenting with those things a bit couple weeks ago ... and the selfd emp radius of spybots is MASSIVE. So if you want to block them (and not just decloak them - which isn't that good cuz what good is it if they are decloaked and immediately selfd and emp ur anti right after?)... if I remember right, it was about 40 windmills if you drag a 1-spaced box around the anti. And spybots can reclaim. Most people aren't aware of that, but - theoretically a spybot could reclaim one of your windmills and THEN emp your anti. So you'll also need llts. 3 of them to really cover every corner. In total you'll still get away with similar cost as countermeasure - and the winds produce energy. Another way to do this could be not intend to block but just decloak the spybot ando build the winds with 3-4 spaces and just 2 llt next to the anti - but also, a llt will not instakill a decloaked spybot, so you'll need to draw a even bigger box - probably you'll still end up with 30-35 winds and you'll occupy a extremely large amount of space. Dragons teeth are NOT a alternative, because units can squeeze through them (very, very slowly, but they can) - and I believe they count as dead entities (like rocks and wreckages) that will not decloak hostile units. My personal summary is clear: Its far, far easier and much, much quicker to just build intrustion countermeasure + you'll save a lot of space. And it'll also show you gremlin stealth tanks.

Or dragon's teeth. Blocking enemy units is what its for.

I think he was more worried about space than the metal.

Was just about to ask if the video appeared a bit LQ for others! No worries dude!

Watching on my phone it gets hard to see the chat at 1080. Still enjoying the nutshot nukes lmao

... "AFUSsy Destroyer"

I was thinking this as he said it. Even just putting the anti nuke in the centre of the base so they can't get to it cloaked would probably be enough

Do walls stop the emp?

@@SoowDeJu haven't tried but not likely, given the EMP blast does not seem to require line of sight to take effect. That's why it can affect buildings on the other side of the building it is standing next to with its EMP What you will need to do is space the wall around the anti such that it exceeds the radius of the ghost's EMP blast. Pulling these numbers out of my ass here, but assume the emp blast has a radius of 4. You would have to build walls around the anti such that no unit could get closer than 5 units to it. If you do it in this way, the ghost will not be able to walk close enough to the anti to emp it

I think some light mines are the answer.

The emp blast radius is quite big, but yeah there's a lot of ways you can make this much harder to pull off. Having a single grunt/pawn, or a couple scouts will also allow you to react and kill the spy bot if it bumps into something.

Honestly, so lame gameplay, push a nuke and win. That ruins the fun for both teams who actually want to play the game.

@@3komma141592653that’s like.. your opinion man

I disagree he had to still keep them close and if they went off his anti nuke was gone and his con turrets so all he would have is energy vs still having conversion or build power with the other way he builds

I feel like you could just wall it in too? 3 or 4 tiles spacing from wall and there's just no way for the ghost to get to it, right?

@@Shindo13371 Ghosts can actually reclaim as well, I'm not familiar with how long it takes them to reclaim a wall piece though, or if it gives the enemy player a warning when it's happening.

Roughly in order of least expensive to most expensive, 1) Place antinuke in the center of your base, forcing the ghost to reveal itself by getting too close to your other buildings. For example, leave a hole in the middle of a windfarm and place the antinuke at the center of that windfarm. Keep a few units on standby and then you can kill the ghost before it can EMP the anti 2) Literally wall off the anti. The ghost will have no means of EMPing the anti on its own provided you space the wall correctly. Walls are very cheap and can also help defend the anti in case units with teeth manage to leak through the front line. 3) Have a couple units set to patrol around the anti. You'll probably need at least 4-6 Rovers or Ticks to provide reasonable coverage, given the speed of the ghost and the range of its EMP blast. 4) Counterintrusion

@@HonshuHigamori I like it

Maybe a few ticks on patrol will be more effective?

He notoriously doesn't care about other players. So...

Maybe not initially, but longterm yes. A 2nd Anti also protects you from a initial overnuke attempt (one anti can, depending on mapsize, shoot down between 4 to 6 nukes launched simultanously).

Cameras can't see those units. And if you are counting on the ghosts walking on top of your cameras, good luck.

Its a mechanic that punishes brainless turtling and creates an important niche for scouting and deepstrike units like commandos or marauders. Antinuke-nuke cost and timing dichotomies already heavily favors the defender. If the attacker successfully scouted, brought down your anti coverage, and capitalized on it, you should up your anti-scouting game. TLDR get good

I agree with nukes not being a fun mechanic, maybe the charge time should be longer or it only becomes active after you gain a few stock. Alternatively make it easier to scout and prepare

not true

Frontline has to manage vision, too, i think. Much more interactive early game in general