@@reneejefferyrowley6379 still no diesel. They haven’t figured out how to fit the intercooler yet. The z71 and at4s have different bumpers than the other models which allow for better approach angles
Based on my experience with our '21 Silverado, I would say the quality of the end product is not worth the asking price. It's a shame because they did a lot of good things in the redesign on the T1-based vehicles, but it seems they are engineered to last the length of the warranty and no longer. Also, if you get the L84 5.3 or L87 6.2 V8, I strongly recommend disabling DFM by driving in "L9" (on the 10-speed) or "L7" (on the 8-speed). Disabling the system makes the drivability way better and greatly reduces the likelihood of lifter failure. I've only noted a 1 MPG loss in fuel economy with the 5.3 since these have a mild 3.23 final drive. That would make for a good TFL MPG loop video: driving in "D" vs. "L9" on this Yukon AT4 6.2.
Exactly. I can't believe this issue isn't brought up in every review. Seems odd to me but maybe that's just me. Reviewers talk trash about CVTs in any car they drive that has one but somehow DFM is off limits. Makes me wonder..
@@jonesjones7057 It's definitely an issue, and it isn't unique to GM as other auto makers also build engines with cylinder deactivation. I would think a change in the ECU tune would be enough to regain the 1 MPG DFM adds without the added mechanical complexity of the system. If the lifters in our truck had failed out of warranty, it would easily have been a $5,000+ repair, too.
I haven’t owned a Chevy for a while now. I have considered their pickups lately, just due to the price!! The 2021s were priced very well, but several of my friends have a 19 or newer. 6 out of 8 have had no issues at all and 2 drive the crap out of their trucks. 2, though, have had nightmarish experience with theirs. Both are 5.3. One 2019 RST, the other has a 2020 Trail Boss. They have both been stranded more than once resulting in several trips to the dealership, some behind/on top of a tow truck. They have payments and can’t wait to get their trucks paid off to get rid of them. I have tried to convince them to get out now and get what they can. They are not in the position to pay more, so they are kinda stuck. I think I have a solution for each of them, it will cost me some $$, but they are good friends. It will be a Christmas gift for them. My buddy has 2 F150s similarly optioned with the 2.7 and Pro Power onboard. Both SuperCrew XLT 4x4s. I will pay the difference to get them to basically the same position they are in now, but with new trucks. There are a lot of us with 2017 or newer F150s, most are Hybrids, and we have been problem free other than a few recalls. Routine maintenance is very inexpensive. They find out about this on Saturday when I take them out for a steak dinner I owe each of them. (Football bet) I will be driving one of the F150s when I pick them up. My buddy owns the dealership and through myself & my businesses, (I have bought over 100 F150s from his dealership since 1998), so I get a bit of leeway. I think they will jump for the deal, but be very shy in doing so. I hope they do. I just love the Trail Boss,,,,,,, I’m tempted to roll the dice on it for an off-road toy, but I already have a Bronco Badlands. I just love these AT4 Yukon’s, but a 6.2 is over $95,000 Canadian!! They can reach $100K!!! I agree, they are asking too much, especially if you are looking at keeping it past warranty.
@@shitloveaduck Yeah, our '21 Silverado is perfect on paper and was priced well, but it's had a ton of issues (lifter failure at 585 miles, bed misalignment, a rear vent that didn't work, incorrectly installed trim pieces, needed a new serpentine belt and idler pulley at 6300 miles, a litany of squeaks/rattles/clunks, etc.). I'm looking at an F150 with the 2.7 as a possible replacement down the road.
Yeah GM quality is garbage. Resale also reflects that. DFM/AFM is a really bad idea and always will be. As far as the 8 speed goes is a defective piece of crap that GM keeps doubling down on. They should just admit it will never be reliable enough and quit making it. I would go with Dodge with their zf 8 speed or with Ford. If you want something that hold up get a tundra. GM is in last place IMO.
I would love to see the full size DuraMax in that package. I also wish they made a five passenger version. I wouldn’t mind paying extra if they offered it.
I think the Volt's hybrid system would be good for this, a lot more space, use a smaller battery for maybe 10 miles of all electric range, use the electric motors to do most the work with the diesel mainly acting as a generator, the 3.0 diesel actually weighs less than the 6.2, that doesn't include the emissions system, but that's really just an extra tank and heavier cats (DPF). It won't increase the hwy mpg, but it should increase the city to almost what the hwy mpg is now.
Realistically who is spending 60-70 grand to do heavy off roading w this. Probably 97 of these will be asphalt bound for their entire life seeing nothing more then the occasional gravel road.
You don’t understand. It’s dumped right now. When you turn the vehicle on it raises up a couple of inches, and when offering it raises up even more. There’s an extra 45 inches of clearance from what you’re saying in the video to the higher settings.
I really think what's GM doing with AT4 packages is amazing, for everyday driver you can go in the city and you can go off road (no dramatic off road). Love the color and the vehicle overall after driving.
I have a 2021 GMC Sierra AT4 in the same color. I would buy that Yukon AT4 in a minute! Worth every penny in my opinion. Especially with trade in values on used vehicles (like my 2018 Yukon) off the charts. To me, that's the finest SUV I've ever seen. Love it! P.S..... If you can afford that vehicle, you can afford to put Premium in it!
If you turn off DFM with a tune, it will void the warranty. Instead I bought the Pulsar LT in-line tuner, which plugs directly into the main wiring harness in the engine bay. Simply take it off for dealership trips. Takes about 2 minutes to install and uninstall. The vehicles computer system is never modified so the warranty stays intact. I have this on my 6.2L 2021 Sierra AT4 and it works great!
@@billluster7687 That's what I meant. The one I've heard people use is the trifecta tune which can also re-calibrate shift points, turn off afm etc.. and like you say revert back to oem settings. This is especially useful for those suckers that have the 8 speed. It helps, but there is only so much one can do for that crapola turkey trans. I personally would stay away from the brand. On re-sale alone they are a very poor investment. All Mary Barra worries about is her 20 million bonus money. Worst CEO ever.
Those A-arms are a huge drawback of independent rear suspension and was my biggest worry when they announced it. Nice interior space improvement though! I also am not a fan of the button gear selector (bring back the column shifter!), and the price is pretty high considering $80k also buys you a High Country 3500 dually that can tow pretty much anything.
I agree 100%. I was behind one yesterday on the freeway and noticed how low the rear suspension was hanging down. I cant believe Engineers / Designers would even approve that. I have had 2 Yukons and 1 Tahoe, both awesome vehicles but 80K? No way.
I have to admit, it's impressive! The suspension shocked me on how high it actually raised up. Not a fan of the gear change buttons but other than that, I love it. A little pricey too but that's to be expected.
As an owner of one of these, the shifter is easy to get used to. For the 99% use case of these vehicles, you'll only ever shift from park to drive and vice versa, so it impacts actual driving very little. Plus for that use case, I think the extra space gained is totally worth any inconvenience from the button shifter. I could see it being an annoying shifter for off-roading though where you might want to shift between first and 2nd more frequently. That or if you really like engine braking, then it will be really annoying.
Finally got to drive a 2023 at4 and im serious when i say i have NEVER driven a more comfy, compliant and smooth riding off road vehicle from GM like this ever before!! This thing is better than every silverado, suburban, escalade and even mercedes GLE/GLS... silent turn signals, auto fold step rail, ice cold SEATS, and even though youre rolling on nubby tires on 20in wheels it is SILENT on the highway and literally smooth over every crack and over paved manhole cover... insanely smooth... an offroad suspension truck from GM!!! Wow! 👏 👏 👏
I have a 2021 GMC Yukon LT. I initially went to the dealership to buy a 2021 Tahoe, but once I saw the Yukon in Sky Metallic, let's just say I was hooked. Very beautiful truck. I have 10K miles on it and the other day, the engine light came on. Went to the dealer and the code was for the "Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor". There were no other symptoms, the truck ran fine, idled fine, no odd noises. I am scheduled to take it in on Monday (its Friday) to have it checked. I have driven it to Florida, Virginia, and South Carolina. Runs great and gets a lot of attention. I certainly hope that this is a minor issue. It would be a shame to spend the kind of money that I did for a lemon. I will keep you posted.
We just placed an order for this exact set up and color. Going from a 2021 Yukon Denali. Love the AT4. The 6.2 is The ONLY way to go with these trucks.
GM never had strong half ton transmissions. This goes back to the 1980s with the 700R4 / 4L60 non-E, to the 1990s with the electronically controlled 4L60e. The 700R4 base was used GM RWD cars and half tons from the early 1980s to like 2010. The 6L80 6 speed introduced in the 2009 model year for GM full size trucks was a decent transmission though. The 8 speeds are trash and I haven't looked into the 10 speeds.
@@joshuarodrique2096 I have to disagree with you on the 10-speeds. The 10-speed was a joint design by GMC and Ford. It has never worked correctly for Ford or GMC.
6 speed is the only trans to go with. No problems on mine with 125k. If it doesn't have a dip stick stay far away. High country and denials are no goes.
@@bobcook8576 I mean no dipstick doesn't equally mean bad transmission. For the Dodges, the ZF 8HP transmissions doesn't have a transmission dipstick and these are far superior to the Chrysler 66RFE that had a dipstick.
Just bought a ‘21 Tahoe with the baby Duramax. It’s fantastic. Perfect engine for this type of vehicle. Just a huge miss imo that you can’t get the Duramax in the Z71/AT4.
An improvement, the rear suspension A arms are really a compromise if you drive deep snow or off road ... I do like the exterior, but the interior seems like a hodge podge of "stuff" that just seems like add ons and does not feel comprehensive to me.
Ordered the exact same one back in Oct. Mine is just in Midnight blue. I can't wait for it to be built. The chip shortage is killing orders getting processed. Oh and Whipple will have a Gen 5 SuperCharger kit for it next year... Not that I went looking.
@@DKLabs99 you're absolutely right on that. This is just what was put out quietly by GM. I'm confident it's fixed but other stuff will more than likely fail lol but I have that EVERYTHING warranty with $100 deductible so I'm good lol
@@soldier09r hope it works out for you. I had a 2020 Sierra Denali that I just unloaded. Had a few issues and wasn’t confident keeping it. Luckily due to the chip shortage I got my money back
My 2000 Chevy suburban 1500 4 x 4 has a quarter of 1,000,000 miles on the clock, and runs just as good as it did the day it was purchased. The heated leather seats are as comfortable as any other vehicle I've ever been in, the transmission works flawlessly, my family enjoys it a great deal, and I've used it as a base camp on numerous hunting, fishing and camping trips. It is the perfect vehicle. Best of all? The cost of admission was a mere $4000, and it is paid for.
Premium fuel is big no for me. At $.50 difference per gallon it adds up, for no real benefits. Especially since many times pumps don't even have premium fuel in stock.
5.3 engine is your only option then. You can run 87 in the 6.2 though, the computer can compensate for it by advancing the ignition timing a little. You'll lose about 20HP. That and if for some reason the engine wrecks, you won't be covered by warranty since the manufacturer suggested minimum octane is 91. But I don't think they will test your fuel for octane rating during a warranty repair...
2:09 Can it roll down the windows with keyfob like my 2013 pickup? :) Yes, this looks the best in between Wagoneer Expedition , better then Cadillac for me, but minus the center screen... the over 10 year old Escalade truck with continuous center console all the way down still looks better, if they would just do it similar with today's materials
The Duramax would be the perfect engine for this rig, making it the swiss army knife version of the Yukon/Tahoe lineup. Great highway mileage to get where you're going and enough torque to bomb around offroad. But it doesn't fit.
I have 2021 silverado with 3.0 dura and loving it. I absolutely would get these with duramax not 5.3 or 6.2. Had suburban with 5.3 and MPG is not good. I'm getting 24 avg with 2 inch leveling and couldn't be any happier than v8s that O had on both 5.3 silverado and or suburban with 5.3. Worth every penny upgrade. So much power alarm 1500RPM.
It fit but they dont want to use all their cards in the first model i guess they will put it next year , last year they said they cant put 6.2 now we have it
@@aal-m3545 I think you're right about the 6.2 - they didn't want to give you every option for the AT4 at the start. But the intercooler for the diesel won't fit in the redesigned front end of the AT4. Maybe they could re-engineer the front end so it will. We'll see.
No diesel option on this one, unfortunately. I configured an SLE with the DuraMax diesel at around $58K....that would be my preference. By the way, GM should add a third row delete option to these vehicles. My four kids are long past the age of riding in the wayback.
@@BIGJBIGEBIGC I don’t believe they ever said the 6.2 wouldn’t fit because that’s a ridiculous statement. They just did not want to. It’s the same block dimensions as the 5.3. The 3.0 duramax is a straight 6, so significantly longer than the V8s. It’s a turbodiesel so it needs a thick intercooler in front of the radiator. The AT4 has a shortened front bumper for clearance. Do the math. Bigger engine + more stuff in front of it and less room overall means it’s very plausible that there isn’t enough room with the current fascia design. They could redesign the fascia to make more room in the future if they want to but we’ll see.
the whole truck seems super well done but i really wish that solid rear axle was still around, especially for when these trucks are gonna be lifted or go off road
Why are so many manufacturers are creating all these different shift mechanisms. I drove the BMW X-7 for a week, and did not like the fact that I had to relearn how to shift my vehicle, In the BMW it involves pushing a knob forward to go reverse and push backward to go forward, which to me is counter-intuitive. I prefer the center consul shifter rather than a button, or toggle, or any of these newer methods. Creat a standard that every manufacturer has to use and stop employing manufacture proprietary short mechanism.
I've always liked these big SUV's but now can't really afford them & and if I spend that much money I want to make sure it is reliable in the long run.
I so want to own a Yukon/Suburban/Tahoe!! I’ll stick with my ‘21 Highlander for now! I’ve been looking around for a used one but with these crazy prices for new and used, I will wait for a better time 😋
I always like the Yukon/Tahoe...until I see the price. It's just not worth a luxury SUV price, if they trimmed 5-10k scross the whole lineup they'd be an easy recommend. You're better off going with a Traverse if you want the 3rd row and a truck to tow. Hell at that price you can damn near get a Traverse AND Silverado.
I like it, a lot. Would probably choose all black exterior first choice, then white as the second choice, and tint the glass more, but I agree this deep grey does look sharp. I am a little torn at this point as to whether I'd get the 5.3 or the 6.2 engine, but that 6.2 sounds pretty darn nice to have. A question: Someone told me that the 2022 Yukon AT4, at least the high end Premier Plus which is what I would want, comes with a 2" lift in the rear, so raises the rear to a permanent base height from 8" to 10", and then with the air suspension, it can be raised up to 2" more if in 4WLow. I was also told I could get a 2" spacer above the front shocks to level the entire thing at base height at the higher 10" clearance, and then with the air suspension, increase the total height to either 11" or 12" depending. Is that your understanding? Can you explain at all? Apparently the Yukon Denali does not come with that extra 2" lift, and it cannot be added if you get the adjustable air suspension on it. I ask because another person told me initially that the AT4 and Denali were the same, both at a base 8" height, and both could be raised with the air suspension up to a maximum of 10". Having that extra 2" front and rear on the Yukon AT4 before the adjustable air suspension would be big for me, I would love it, but I'm hearing two different things. Thanks for any insight you can provide. Either way, another great review. Thumbs up!
Man, I was loving this truck until I saw that hideous shifter selector! Why couldn't they put a steering column one or even a traditional center console shifter instead of this crap.
I think the 2022 Sierra and Silverado have a better looking interior than Yukon or Tahoe. Also GM should have given the SUV's a different look, they just look like a Truck with a full cab. Also this giant needs a hybrid option before that thirsty 6.2 A diesel hybrid would be much better.
I would take one! But I have a truck and sxs. Wife has a pilot. Yukon is awesome but I'd never take it off road in any challenging way. Only need 4wd for snow/ice and maybe the beach for family hauler.
I would agree with Ed Ricco the DFM is a detriment. I presently own a 2021 AT4 with the 5.3 and it lost a lifter. I feel its better to have all cylinders firing instead of letting them randomly shut off and on. Personally I would also prefer a 3.31 rear end ratio. The 3.23 is too high causing the unit to downshift and upshift going up hill. I am trading for a 2022 with a 6.2 motor. I would also like GM to get rid of the chrome inside of the cabin. The sun reflects off it going down the road.
Longer engine (straight 6) plus big intercooler in front of the radiator with a smaller front bumper for off-road clearance means there genuinely may not be enough room for it.
I love the new Yukon and Tahoe but I wonder why there is no center seat headrest in the second (bench option) and third row. It is quite important safety issue and if you make a car for 7/8 adults make at least retractable headrests for center seats.
is this the 10.2" infotainment screen? i snagged one being built that has the 13.4" gmc premium infotainment listed on the build sheet. looking around i only see that listed on the AT4X pickup.... typo or a new thing? the build i'm trying to get is the 6.2L with trailering package and a few stand-alone options like pano roof, side steps so i'm interested to see which screen it actually has... being built sometime this month hopefully. weird.
Hi great video Will it stay lifted in off road setting if you have it in the drive mode What I’m try to say can you make it stay lifted while daily driving ✌️🇨🇦
Hey Andre, Love you're reviews. I think you should buy 2 of them. 80k plus tax & license, plus premium fuel pushing $5 a gallon. Ouch! Yeah, I could do it. I'll get something for 40 to 45k and leave the rest in the bank. Would it look good in my garage? Bring on over and park it in there. People who know me, will thing i've lost my mind...
