This One Flaw could Destroy Marvel Snap... 

Btw i havent watched the whole thing so sth like this may have been brought up 😵‍💫

I completely agree but i think guaranteed s4 and s5 cards would have to be more than 500ish levels

i got aero and wong befroe 1k collection level haha now i just need gambit for my miracle deck

I hate pulling tokens , titles and avatars

Like the mercy system in Master Duel. If you dont pull a UR in a pack you will get a guaranteed UR next pack

I'd say I agree with you. Though pool 5 can easily cost 4000, especially seeing as you get a ton more tokens after being pool 3 complete. But yeah, it's very expensive as is.

Tokens could definitely do with a drop. Hopefully with retroactive compensation if that's even possible?

​@@vedomedo if they want 6k tokens for s5 maybe it's only for the big bads. Idk ideally they're cheaper but i doubt it. Might cause outcry for ppl who bought s5 cards at 6k

this is both realistic and expected to at this point. IMO is could be even better, but this would be a great start.

Absolutely

Nope, then it will just reward people who grind. And it become a totally unhealthy game by feeding off addiction.

What about you are rewarded credits for some amount of games (like 20?). Then just busters again, I mean rewarding some level of grinding is not bad and I would argue playing and being rewarded something you cant use is worse

@@araisikewai being rewarded for playing the game is how … EVERY other game does it… lol

@@araisikewai better than rewarding and feeding off of addiction AND spending money??? Like uhhh are you for real right now? Lol that logic is insane

@@CAsnowman how will they make money if they start handing out let’s say, 1000 credits for 50 games. Let’s be real. That’s a lot for such a limited amount of games the way they give credits right now is fine. If you add up all the mission per month or even weekly it’s really not all that bad. You could grind pretty regularly. Of course you could also spend like 20$ every 2-3 weeks to pull out some extra levels but I don’t see an issue with the way it is.

Sounds like a great idea, but the number can't be small. Probably at least it should be 1000 boosters to get a new 700 Gold variant card.

@@araisikewai yeah i wouldnt be too upset about that, even if it was more

Main issue with that is that boosters are the only thing in this game, that is infinitely farmable. This idea would make it possible to grind out every cosmetic in the game, which would encourage monetizing the games card collection rather than monetizing cosmetics. I would much rather prefer we gain a better card acquisition and a stricter focus on monetizing card cosmetics.

​@@Baltux boosters are daily limited (1000 boosters AFAIK)

agreed. You should be able to craft variants yourself, along with actual cards themselves. This way we could scrap the pixel variants nobody wants that we get for actually good variants(or just upgrades.)

Right, I played SWGOH for over 4 years and barely put a dent in the max progression tbh. I had only unlocked 1 out of the 7 ‘top tier’ characters.

I know, I'm always confused when people talk about how predatory and p2w Snap is. I think the game is VERY fair while still trying to be profitable.

Literally, Let any of these snap fans play Dragon Ball Legends or Dokkan 😂

@@slumplxrd934 oh man, Dokkan is what sent me down that dark path hahaha

​@@slumplxrd934 hehe I play legends and say the same thing to snap players 😂🤣

It really is There are some games out there where not only is everything expensive when added up, but also more aggressive with its monetization by pushing it in your face if you lose or need more materials to upgrade.

Marvel snap, compared to other card games, allows for a much much higher variety of decks. This is because having a deck that's unpredictable or has pieces your opponent doesn't expect is greatly rewarded because of the snap mechanic. It's not the player with the best win rate the one who wins most cubes, it's the one who is best at guessing who is winning at any point of the match Thus, in Marvel snap, nearly all cards have a home in a deck, meme decks work and trying to get the full collection is simply unnecessary

My best friend has spent $0 on the game, minus getting the season passes and he's gotten much better variants than me currently, and higher tiered cards than me, usually before me ..and I'm Collection Level 4500+ This game is very free to play friendly.

I’d be so much more hyped for a DC snap, what’s it called

Can you put a link about this, please ?

👀I love marvel but DC got my heart before anything

CL2576 and still no Aero, no Sera, no Lockjaw, no Hood. Its rough man

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the 1-in-4 pity timer for S3 cards is the same between caches and reserves. I don't think that changes at all.

​@@yupyup3042 they will come I am CL3034 and I am missing 10 S3 cards, most notable zero and taskmaster (I only just got dracula). My biggest issue was around 2.4k I was getting crushed by shuri/darkhawk when they were S5 and I had 0 access to S5 cards and I still have no S5 cards. (Thanos is pinned in my shop)

@@vitwhen4435 i just played against a thanos kang deck this morning. Bro ran out the turn clock on both turn 6 plays 🙄

That’s not free to play.

@Recusant Is it free to play if I never made decks for the cards in the battlepass.

Did you use the extra gold and credits from the battlepass? I’m going to assume you did. So no not free to play

If you spent money on the game, it wasn't free. It doesn't matter whether or not you actually used the stuff your purchased, they still convinced you to give them your money. This isn't a slight, I bought a battle pass as well so we are in the same boat.

Why the hell is there a fight in the comments for what F2P means? F2P people need to chill, u don’t need to be elitists about people who decide to just spend a little bit of money each month.

So you are saying that people who fund the game shouldn't have some advantage compared to people who get to play the game for free and can only play because people are funding the game? If everyone is f2p and there aren't ads, etc. who pays the developers and publisher?

Totally agreed, money should only be able to be spendt on cosmetics and non gameplay related things, the model FIFA created was the one that started this big problem

@@Im_Anthonyy ea sucks. They have shut down way too many of my favorite game studios

@@kahnmann fortnite did cosmetics

@@kahnmann No I I am saying more than that. I am saying that games should be created to suit and fit their audience with responsibility and care, and that is especially true for young people as they are learning the "rules" of the world through games, as it has always been even way before video games. We have a responsibility to deliver the right ideas.. so to come to your point about the funds in video games... i think we should look at the problem on a different point of view. Should we ever lower ourselves to act unethically to sustain whatever industry may it be?! Even if it may be fun. I dont think so. The function of games is not something we need to reinvent. Edit: Also u just need to make this sort of games +18 only, if we are looking for a temporary solution

yes or you can craft also card with dust which you get from dupe

@@MrNiMo lol

Making deals arbitrarily limited in the amount of time you can purchase them is predatory monetization, mind you. But yeah, they are doing... something.

​@@schploink6869 I feel like predatory monetization has expanded to mean any kinda of monetization and has lost all meaning.

@@johnnyclawson9129 Your mental fatigue on the subject does not mean it has "lost all meaning" - it is more that predatory schemes are so normal people just accept them and have become complacent against fighting it or wanting to talk about it. Snap engages in a few things that are explicitly predatory - converting money into an in-game currency that doesn't line up with the costs of specific items, making daily rewards only available by going to the bottom of the shop, and having arbitrary, generally short, time limits on products. Regardless of how you feel about the game as a whole, your personal grasp on the concept of predatory marketing techniques, or if these things are okay by you, does not suddenly make them not predatory. I would bet you thousands of dollars that Snap has employed or is using data from Activision/Blizzard/King's team (the creators of Candy Crush) of psychologists whose literal job is to create addictive monetization schemes in games.

I was around 700 when the token shop dropped, I'm over 4k now and got no 5 series drop. It might feel bad, but man, not even getting one is worse, trust me.

​@@filippoconti7877 I'm pretty much in the same boat. Just over 4k, and other than the season pass cards the only pool 5 I have is Sauron, and he only works in one deck (Shuri Zero) which half the people in the game are playing a counter deck to. To the point that no matter how bifacial Sauron is you have to use Cosmo instead to protect your cards.

Complete F2P player, i never spend a penny on mobile games. Almost CL 3000. Got plenty of decent cards. Also hit infinite.

@@FS-px1tm like I may not have the cool new shiny toys but I have enough good stuff and besides, you can hit infinite with almost anything. Sure the monetization is kinda whack rn but its a new game trying out the player base to see what works. Give it time before it mellows out. I dont see any problems with this game from a F2P stand point

Some set bonus points would be great.

grinding any game is not fun.

I haven’t gotten a single series 4 card and I’m Cl 2600 lmao

You're definitely not f2p then, your game cost is equivalent to a new phone LUL

Bro you ain’t kidding. Dropping 3 tanks each season is the worst and shouldn’t be a thing. I can see 1-2 but NOT 3! I was infinite last season. Got sent to 70 this season. And at 65 and now about to be send to 35. I literally have been playing every day and to just be sent down 3 ranks is ridiculous.

I think cards get dropped about 2 or 3 months after so there is not shot it takes 6 months for more than 2% to own her

I mean most people won't try to get every card, but I heavily play since lunch and spend some money only get a series five card yesterday so its still kind bad not gonna lie. I play a lot of slimmer gocha game but none of them require half a year to obtain the highest rarity item

I've certainly seen whale's in my games (as in Avatar's and Variants from the expensive bundles) but the majority are either F2P higher ranked (which is completely possible if you work out what to do early in Pool 3 and get lucky with a few card drops) or dolphins who have the SP (which is what I do and I might occasionally buy one of the smaller bundles, like the starter bundle, that give extra gold for the price) which seems fair to me. The people who have crazy decks aren't often whale's, they've just been playing much longer than I have. Unfortunately I think part of this is the current issues with matchmaking. Immediately out of low Pool 3, if your win rate is decent, you will run into an absolute wall of people who have strong series 4/5 card's and know how to use them. I was about 60x cl when I started seeing Thanos decks, Shuri-Red Skull, Death Wave, Galactus, and other peak meta decks that I really had little answer for. I've managed to make a few decks that can do well against the meta now, though my P3 drops were still pretty rubbish and I had to rely on the new Pool 3 claim shop for Doom to make a semi-competitive control Sandman deck with Psylocke for some ramp (because I have neither Electro or Wave), but even though it's still RNG, you will eventually get decent drops, but sometimes it can take a while (hopefully much less now the Pool 3 shop is up and running). But I fully understand why people in early-mid Pool 3 would get really frustrated, because I did too, it doesn't feel fair when your opponent has everything and you have much weaker card's. Hell I ran into several Dark Hawk Mystique decks immediately as I left Pool 2, which was completely wild as I had no real way to counter them until much later. It's easy to rationalize this as P2W, which is why I think people do so, but honestly, most of these people have just been playing much longer as the community is pretty well established and we haven't yet seen a massive influx of new blood. I've also had both Thanos and Galactus pop up in my token shop, but I could never justify pinning them, despite really wanting Galactus, because I simply don't have the other card's to make it work (now that Galactus is going to show up more frequently due to the changes to the shop I'll definitely go for him next) so I had to let them go as my tokens were better spent elsewhere (I got Knull and two other good card's for half the price of Galactus). It sucks because I really want to make Nimrod work, but you really just have to wait for credits and make do. It's just disheartening when you see other people with those deck's and you really want to play them but realize it's going to take quite a while (and they might not even be super viable) by the time you get there. That's kinda the name of the game though with CCGs. Honestly I wouldn't advise anyone who started playing and enjoys the game to buy at least one season pass. It's pretty cheap, 9 quid is a fraction of what most games cost now, and you get significant value out of it. Save the Gold from the SP drops, and from caches, then spend them on Token Tuesdays and you will very rapidly get what you want within a month or two. You just have to be patient and find a deck you can have fun with, and there are plenty of really fun decks that aren't meta (I quite like Collector +Devil Dino Deck's, some cheap Variants of Knull decks that basically hard counter Galactus decks if they play it, and I'm also a fan of Ongoing decks, though I need Omega Red and Mojo to make my Onslaught deck somewhat viable post-Pool 3) so it isn't like we are totally out of choice. I really didn't want to play Kazar deck's all the time, so I simply made a variant that has higher cost card's alongside it with sunspot, multiple win-conditions and you get to feel the endorphin rush of playing something huge at the end.

🧢 😂

@M.A.B. Whatever you say guy.

Yeah. This really feels like not a problem for the game. Even if you own every card, just about every play style has counters (that are more easily obtained). Even then your expensive cards might be chilling on the bottom of your deck when I play Devil Dino Turn 6 and take 8 cubes off of you. Also I love that I can't get every card -> The chase for more cards is what keeps me playing.

played both , and this is not like diablo immortal at all, diablo was a typical mobile mmorpg where being rich is a major advantage in terms of ur overall gear, diablo u need to be on it most of the time mindless grinding where as a game in snap last roughly 4-5mins top, satisfy ur gaming needs and continue ur actual work, end of the day the major difference is snap is still a level playing field which u can never get in immortal in terms of the disparity between p2w and f2p

But the current state of acquiring cards in marvel snap makes player couldn't choose what they need so it heavily based on RnG. Meanwhile p2p could get it early so in a long run the difference between f2p and p2p gonna be huge that f2p couldn't keep up with the current meta with how cards are added every weeks or so.

@@wisnusyah6608 yeah its rng but at least u can still acquire it and not really locked behind a paywall, if ur goal is to be a card collector then definitely u gotta put some cash in, besides the bundles and season pass are well worth it if u play it often, and the price is still not bad in comparison to other card games or f2p gacha games, and now with the token bundles u can just pinned and get ur pool 3 cards easily, i still do well dealing with thanos or shuri with pool 1-3 cards lol

@wisnusyah6608 not necessarily since usually the cards added are battlepass or pool 5. A lot of newer to mid pool 3 won't be effected by pool 5 additions. The battlepass additions are unfortunate for f2p but 1. They shake up the meta which keeps the game fresh and 2. They seem to be dropping them down to series 3 relatively quickly. You kinda do have power of choice with collector tokens but you have to be patient and really careful about what youre spending those on. By mid pool three i feel like one should have at least 2-3 different archetypes they can make

Its funny because I actually used to love this channel back when I played Hearthstone before the blitz/china debacle. It is a major reach on their part.

I have not put a single dime in hs for past 3 years (although bought every single expansion for first 8 expasions), if you just maintain 2-3 classes its not too hard to be f2p. 34 times legend for reference as in its still competetive

@@nickiashvili6568 honestly glad to hear it. My problem isn’t necessarily with Hearthstone, it’s the idea that Marvel Snap is somehow more scummy and greedy than Activision-Blizzard of all companies. These guys had the audacity to compare Marvel Snap to Diablo Immortal, when Diablo Immortal is published by the same company that Hearthstone is. But yeah, it’s all Ben Brode. He was totally the reason for all of this. :eyeroll:

@@nickiashvili6568 also, just to further state, it’s actually been more than 3 years since I actively played Hearthstone, so I’m sure a lot has changed. I was just saying that initially Hearthstone definitely was more expensive than Marvel Snap has been at start because I’ve played both at the beginning and I felt I had to buy those $50 expansions to keep up. I haven’t felt I “need” to spend money on Snap. Most of my money spent is buying variants, which is entirely cosmetic. There’s improvements that need to be made for sure, but Marvel Snap is still early in its life.