Good to see you back! I like these lemons to lemonade situations, it’s really fun to see creative solutions for older systems. A FirePro W5000 would be a fun GPU to match if the psu could keep up
Not really propietary since they give you enougth info to turn a normal psu into one of these or some of these came with a free adapter (got hired to fix some Office pcs and they told me the pcs came with "parts" and i was like "wtf?" And the parts where adapters and stuff to use normal pc parts for this)
I mean you still got scammed because it was assumed that you'd be getting an i5 and 16GB of ram but even as is, that really isn't too bad for $40, I recently built a similar PC for my mother, I already owned all the parts meaning I technically paid more than what they're worth now, but with current re-sale value it comes out to only being worth something just over $70 in parts and that isn't including things I was able to repurpose like the old OEM psu / case or the ram, so yeah $40 + your own ram/ssd is still a good value.
i wanted to add exactly this- someone might just be selling ‘their home computer’ and thought $40 was already a rock bottom, just-get-it-outta-here price for the kind of thing they might themselvesve seen costing like 100 times as much some 25 years ago. doesnt explain the switcheroo of the cpu, but who knows- maybe theres a reasonable explanation possible there as well.
I bought something similar for $25 but it had a little bit of a spec increase. I got an i5 3rd gen, 16gb of ram, and a 1tb mechanical drive. Pretty good for light gaming such as 2d games.
For people who know what's wrong with the PC, Yes, This is not a ripoff, But for the people who don't know why the computer won't boot, Then yeah, It's obviously a ripoff, Some people don't even know what a ram stick is
$40 for that thing is a pretty good deal imo.. it cost around $90 - $100 in my area for a full working E72/M72 that have 3470, 4GB of RAM, and without a GPU
@@brokeandtired my pc still uses 3470, for my usage (little bit of editing, game, and stream) it still usable in 2022 :D It's a great cpu, and I don't think I'll need an cpu upgrade for another 3 years..
I just bought 4 months ago 15 computer from a company who was renewing their computer, with solid Asus and Gigabyte motherboard in it, most of them with 4th gen i3, 2-3 of them with 4th gen i5. The funny part was it costed me 5€ each lmao. I sold 13 of them for 50€ each, and I'm currently using one of them for a home server / NAS with 5*4tb HDD in Raid. That's pretty cool tbh.
@@MilesProwerTailsFox bruh it was a misunderstanding i thought you said you almost got the computers lmao, please do not talk about stuff you dont know about xd
I bought a similarly spec'd HP system. It had an i3-4160, and I used it for a month as my primary Windows 10 desktop. I was surprised, with 12GB of RAM, how usable it was. I edited a video for YT on it, and it processed 1080p at 12.56 FPS. It is gone now, though it's videos live on (not nearly as put together as yours). Good video.
The SSD really makes the difference in everything. Upgraded my mother's laptop recently and it was like the darkest night compared to staring directly into the sun in terms of boot up, response time, etc.
In 2014, I stocked up on about a half dozen 2010-era used computers and laptops. Fair prices at the time, and most are still in use even now. The seller was associated with an e-waste location, and was diverting the still useful hardware from the landfill.
Nice computer. In my place I can find a similary spec machine for more than double the price... Although, I would suggest to either flip the sata cable of the ssd or go for a straight to straight cable. It doesn't look good to the eye and it might be slighty pressed by the side panel when closed.
That's why you must always check what you buy second-hand, especially when you buy electronics and PCs. If they sell you a working PC without offering you to check it in their home or elsewhere, then it's a scam. Don't buy stuff you can't verify until after you've bought it second-hand.
I'd hardly call that junk. Yes, the person who sold you that clearly ripped you off.. but.. an i3-4160 in that board is hardly a slouch. With 8GB of RAM, it should perform daily tasks with ease, and I'd say that the iGPU should be able to handle some older games like Fallout 3 okay. Honestly, for $40, I'd say that's a decent system. I've seen many very similar computers sell locally for well over $100 with Win10 installed.
You may have gotten scammed but not seriously hosed. Did you check the disk drives? You never know when someone is silly enough to some *embarrassing* items on the drives. Especially people who scammed you. I'm not suggesting doing something *naughty* with what you find... just point and laugh before you DBAN the disks.
Lesson of today: always bring a screwdriver. (I always carry a small kit in my backpack that allows me to open up.. Well.. basically anything (from iPhones to computers and TVs). In this case, you could have asked to see it turned on (any tv can double as a monitor these days). ("i don't have a cable" - yes, you do, because your digital TV thing has the cable I need) You can always bring your own stuff.. OR.. Bluff a little, and see how the seller responds. "You don't mind if I open it up to see if everything's in order, right? I've got a screwdriver set with me always... Handy for quick repairs / if my phone drops in the toilet.." [*start fumbling in your backpack]
It's probably a good computer, at least until Lenovo pushes a BIOS update to it that effectively bricks the machine, like what they did to Yoga 12 laptops: Works one day, Lenovo pushes a BIOS update at you through Windows update (so you can't stop it happening), and the next day your computer no longer works (Not just me, thousands of posts about the same thing onliine) because they removed a module from the BIOS that may be necessary for full functionality of the machine. Forced upgrade.
I bought r3 2200g system unit in fb market place in 190 usd resently. Before I bought it I open the case and check the components. But now it gaves me a head ache because after a long use the display driver crash and needs to reinstall again and again. I think this is one lesson if the Computer Components sell in too low price in second hand market maybe it has issues. I changed the PSU and RAM but nothing works.
it was still a scam you were advertised 1 thing and sold another, the system isn't bad by any means for $40 you were lied to regardless. I learned to trust but verify with people even though I only scope out the "free" section on craigslist and have gotten some sweet deals just seeing PCs on the side of the road.
Hey, I used a similar lenovo desktop with a 4130 and gtx750 1gb for half a year and... It was great, I have fun memories of that PC. This has PCIE gen 3 (I think) so it might be intresting to test out the gaming performance of the new rx 6400 (since it's main use is in machines like this)
Eh... I mean, an 4th gen i3 runs Windows 10 like a dream on a SSD and 8gb of RAM, Linux people underestimate the power needed to run Windows 10... I can run 10 on a laptop with a C2D, 4GB of RAM and a SSD as long as I use Windows 10 debloater and deactivate metro apps in background
Try a gt 1030 they are a surprisingly decent gaming card I've used one for hard-core gaming and it works surprisingly well I still have it today as a backup card should my rtx 3070 die
welcome back. where are located to get these computers? all the business, e-recycling places, schools, etc don't want anyone trying to reuse their stuff, even if they don't have a hard drive
Never mind. I misread the title. I thought you got it out of a landfill. But yeah, I've been asking places like I mentioned above to try to fix them up and give them away to people who need a computer or resell them when I don't hear of someone who needs one. So many "old" computer, laptops, even chromebooks and tablets are thrown out that can be reused and kept out of the garbage
I would personally use a system like that for a cheap storage nas, using the expansion slots for more drives and probably putting the components in a different case while I''m at it with a new PSU as well. 180W does not seem like enough for a NAS.
years ago i bought a refubished lenovo that turned into a boat anchor. the seller said i could return it, but that would cost more than it was worth. i don't know if that seller is still in business.
At least it was not too far off... One of my friends bought a used computer which was listed with an i7 of unspecified generation at a much higher price only to find out the CPU was an Athlon XP or something from the early 2000s. The computer was running Windows XP; it showed that old style peripheral device listing during startup; my friend, who majored in computer science, picked it up at the seller's house; yet he got scammed. :(
You're making me want to fix up my M93p that does have an i7 4790 and, I think 8gb of ram. A 4th gen machine with enough memory and an SSD will handle most daily tasks with ease. Sorry you got scammed but it made a cool video to see this machine get fixed up.
I'm really curious as to how Linux and Windows compare performance wise on different slow hardware like this thing. I've saved many computers from going to landfill just by installing a lightweight Linux distro, so I'd love to see a video on a very slow PC that can't run Windows reasonably well.
Great video! I support your determination to use what you want/need versus what is trendy (regarding Windows vs Linux). I think you got those $40 back, thanks to your skills. Best regards from Panama 🇵🇦
Keep your eye out for any deals on Xeon E3 1220, 1225 or 1226 V3 CPU (worth $20-40, 1220 has no iGPU). They are Quad core and work in desktop motherboards. Edit: I just checked the prices. $18.95 - $23 for those Xeon. I didn't even search by their S code looking for better prices either. 4 core 4 thread 3.3ghz for the 1226 (plus boost, about like an i5, pretty cheap though)
Put in 1600 16gb of ddr3 and an i7 4770 or 4770S (whichever is cheaper) then run your tests again if the improvement is good think about a video card next.. For a video card check around and see if you can get a deal on a 1050ti (round 140) or a 1030ti for around 90.
I always just use Velcro Tape when I can't screw in the drive, or zip tiesas I am finishing up cable management. I would say you did ok for 40, scammer or no. I would use the drives as propriety storage such as ebooks (making a library) or music.
I´ve got this pc as a "barn find" but with Socket 1155 but with standard ATX connectors. It was way dirtier then yours. Many prebuilds start with the shitty PSUs from Socket 1150 and above. But as you said: Take some tools with you when picking stuff up. I always have a phillips bit on my keychain for emergencies ;)
This ls what happened to me once A dude came to my repair shop because he wanted his old pc working again But his son swapped cpu and ram with the new pc to make it better The problem with the pc was the power supply so it makes sense Kids having this kinda knowledge makes boomers have a lot of problems because they know nothing xd
I've been scammed multiple times on craigslist and facebook marketplace. I've come to the conclusion that if they were honest they'd try to sell it on a platform with actual buyer protection.
$40.00 on your pc; I think it was a good deal. You didn't have to pay for shipping and handling. So, the seller lied to you about the CPU and ram, bomber, but you did your research and found out that you could upgrade your CPU later on. Plus, you have a ddr3 ram laying around, and if you didn't, you could always purchase some ddr3 ram for $50.00. You didn't get scammed at the end of the day because you won a whole PC for $40.00, which can be upgraded.
I just recently found two Lsnovo i5 systems in the trash, an M91p and an M900, both with 16GB of RAM, but no boot drives. Both are small form factor systems though, with not much space inside and 250w and 210w power supplies respectively. Being extremely short on money, I figured I could use one of these as the basis for building a decent system, by putting the motherboard in a bigger case, adding a larger power supply and throwing in a Saphire HD7870 graphics card that I also found (but which I haven't tested). It wouldn't be state of the art (or even qualify as a "gaming" computer in most people's opinions), but it would be a lot more powerful than what I have now. And I could upgrade it to an i7 later. Unfortunately, I don't know how to choose a compatible power supply (24 pin connector), a case that the board would fit into, or where to find pinouts for the header connectors on the board. I'm sure someone else could just look at it and know what to get and how to hook it up, but I have zero experience in this regard. :(
If a seller wants to meet at a public location, it seems the odds are higher of getting ripped off since they know you can't just show up and knock on their door to confront them.
Nobody with a brain gives out their address anymore due to diversity. I don't even sell used stuff anymore, all my old stuff either hits the trash or a donation bin somewhere.
we have those lenovods in desktop cases where entire front of the case flip forward, but we installed ssd's almost the same way only we added a cable tie to that single screw
I3 4160 is a nice thing, and 8gb ram is very ok too In my place a desktop with that same spec from Dell for example cost as much as double the price My current main desktop PC is a inspiron 3847 with a i3 4170 (it surprisingly powerful enough with over 1000 pts in CPUz benchmark), 8gb DDR3, HD4400 graphics.popped a SSD and yes, it worked like a charm. I really looking forward to upgrade my PC later with 16gigs of ram...
yeah 40 bucks is probably geting on for the more expensive side but still almost resonable. also you got a delta fan in that rig too, those things go up to like 5000 rpm. put one on the stock amd cooler that came with an fx4300 on an fx8350 and it sounded like it was gonna take off lol temps still sucked but where like half that of the stock fan that runs at 2k rpm.
I have a 4130 that runs Batocera pretty darn well, but that is an sff machine. The i5 4570 is dirt cheap over here, guess you could do that upgrade for next to nothing as well? Unlike the 4770, which pulls more power and costs quite a bit more. Any semi-decent gpu will require a new PSU, so maybe my idea for a Batocera machine isn't that bad?
I bought a refurb pc the other day for work at home job and it's just a third Gen i7 but happy that a processor released ten years ago works fine for my simple work load. Just surprised how long 'old' tech can be useful for a long time.
In fairness, and even with the missing RAM, that's not a bad machine for the price. At the very least, it can be a solid browsing and office tasks box.
Next time don't forget the screwdriver. You could make it a fileserver if you add a harddisk. I don't know what the BIOS/UEFI will support though, maybe a 1 TB.
I got a Lenovo m73 tiny with an i5 4570s I use for PiHole, I was thinking about using Plex on it and see how the intel quick sync works with it, but I do plan to move it to an i7 4770 as I plan to run a few small game servers on it, but I need to make sure the power brick can handle it. It originally came with a Pentium dual core, I found a dead system with the i5 4570s which that cpu has been working well on my m73 for quite some time now.
I'd say the time you spent driving to and from the buy followed by clean-up, etc. totals a lot more than $40 in comparison. Just a thought, but I guess you have to decide how much you value your time as well ($).
The drive normally wouldn't have been very bad had there not been a really bad wreck. And I would've cleaned it up regardless, but you make a fair point.
lol, you spend an hour to go look up a PC and you don't even bring so much as a Leatherman? The guy could be a scammer, and scammers will scam for even a dollar, because it's not about the money for them. However, most people have no idea what is in their computer, and if they bought a proprietary one, you KNOW they don't know much about computers. There is a good chance he thought you were the one lying.
Thanks Johnny! Always love seeing your comments pop up. It's crazy how well these generation parts run so much so well. And we are doing well, just having to figure out what life is like with three of us now haha
Having a child is one of the biggest changes in your life. One day, you’ll be tempted to walk out of the room because your child “will just lay there” don’t do it. That will be the day they try to roll over while laying on the couch. Happened to me. I had never been around kids and didn’t know any better as a young 21 year old. Kids grow up way quicker than you realize. Make fun memories and let your kid be a kid and don’t be a serious adult all the time. I screwed up lots as a young father. 😀
Once the circuitry has been removed, front panels and cases can be washed in a laundry sink with hot soapy water, then rinsed off and dried. The big advantage is how clean and sanitized they become. Also pretty quick.
Well, this E73 is socket 1150 and takes any i7 or Xeon of that socket. Takes 8gb ram ddr3 per slot. I know cause I done got 1 now along with some other Lenovo and Dell Optiplex. DO NOT GET DELL UPDATES. Use driver booster and patchmypc. Been doing this for 8-10 years.
Maybe technical you got scammed, but on the other hand you got content for a RU-vid video, so not a bad deal. I think you could give the computer to one you (know), that doesn't have one.
I've been very lucky with my recent purchases and I just had the guy open to show me the ram and power it on cause I was picking up from his house I've bought 2 Lenovo M92P with 8GB of RAM and the CPUs were i5-3470 and bought an extra 8GB of RAM for one of them so that it has 16GB about 90$ all together for the PCs on their own Each PC 30£= 37.40$x2 2x4 ram for 10£=12.47$ Then An SSD in each for 12.95£=16$ and an Nvidia Quadro K620 2GB DDR3 for 25£=31$ in one of them I use the one with the GPU for emulation and it does great with PS2 Wii and GameCube and obviously anything under is also great I gave the other one to my girlfriend for Netflix and browsing I'm thinking of getting 2 more
I bought a M73 Thinkcentre about 4 year ago, it has the same motherboard and came with the same CPU, before that I was using a Core2quad 8400 and this Core i3 moves faster than de Core2quad, I installed 16 gb of ram, a 240 gb SSD, a Gt 710 with 2 gb of vram graphics card and changed the Core i3 for a Xeon E3-1240 v3 (officially not supported by Lenovo). Well it runs very, very fast, is the machine that I'm using and performs like hell all Operating systems that has installed (Windows 10, Linux Manjaro, Linux Fedora and Mac OS Monterey).
Actually that 180 watt power supply isn't completely worthless!!!! A few years ago I was installing LED strip lights inside my shed workshop and had ordered the strip lights from a supplier in China!! Upon getting the one set of strip lights however, I got them all mounted to the ceiling of my shed, hooked them up with the supplied power supply that came WITH the LED strip lights and when I plugged the p/s in, it immediately smoked, making the LED lights useless!!! Oddly enough, a few months before I got the LED strip lights I had seen a video here on RU-vid, that talking about converting an ATX power supply into a "test rig power supply" using a ATX extension harness! And I just happen to have a 100 watt ATX power supply out of an old IBM desktop just laying around, that I knew worked!! I quickly assembled the "test rig" and mounted it to a board. Then I used that power supply to power my LED light strips!! Certain NOT as efficient of a solution as I had hoped, BUT looking back at it, I am powering ALL the lighting in my shed/workshop off just ONE 100 watt power supply, which is comparable too running just a single 100 watt light bulb.........AND I have light all over my shed, and can actually expand on it in the future if I want too!!! So having a 180 watt power supply isn't completely useless......and it can be used for many other projects where a 12 volt DC power supply may be required!!
Good outcome but at the cost of RAM and Time. I bought 12 old IBMs ,(much cheaper than 40 dollars) and made a Linux network at home everybody having a computer at home and me having 8. Only two had windows. I just upgrade my son's NEE PC with Linux mint, Debian and Emmabantus running. Gave up Windows many moons ago and I suppose you get more out of this unit from Ubuntu 20. I currently use Ubuntu 21 and 22. Windows deliberately use UEFI to stop dual booting with Linux. Bad diplomacy.
Buy a Dell Optiplex 790 or later. Mine has a I-5 2500 and came with 8GB RAM in 2 slots (It has 4 slots). I upped it to 16 GB and added a 2 GB graphics card I had lying around. It came with Windows 10 on a 250 GB HD which I changed to a 1 TB SSD. So far it does well in all the old games I have, like ARMA 2 Dayz mod. Also, all of the power supply connections are standard type. Just wish it had power for a larger grraphics card. I have $120 in it including card , memory, & SSD.
i paid 10 dollars for the same pc lol. i rocked it as a main pc for a while until the motherboard died. you can get them for way cheaper than 40 dollars
It's sad to see someone getting scammed, but at least u got a PC though. It can be use as a server or backup system. I think it would be worth a little bit more.
i HATE the motherboards in theses systems and what lenovo did with the PSU is inexcusable. for $40 if you got JUST THE CASE you did not get scammed! Well, if the case could hold a standard ATX board. The CPU is around 20 to 25 bucks and the mobo sells for about that too, I would say you got a $10 discount, not scammed. However that is shady af that the RAM just fell out right before you went to meet old howard there.
got a pc with intel celeron quad core, i dont remember the code, it was something with N... I think. It had 4 gb ram and about 300-400 GB HDD I think, and an old Intel Graphics card. I got it for 384 eur with a keyboard and mouse with lights and stuff, this happened about 4-5 years ago, im not sure if I made a mistake.. Then after 1-2 years I bought a 2010 macbook pro for 300 eur, rn I have a good pc but Im wandering if these deals were good or not?
Yes it is compatible, some Xeon (e3-xxx0) don't have integrated graphics so you need to add a graphics card, but Xeon that ends with 5 is definitely compatible. You may need to update the bios first to the last one before.
I desperately need a newer machine, but I can't afford one, nor can I afford shipping. I work 50 hours per week doing physical labor, and only end up with 21 dollars left out of my weekly paycheck. If you could donate something modern, I'd take anything at this point. I have a 16 year old desktop that barely works, but I'm a developer, and my ex stole and destroyed my dev machine. I'm stuck.
Bro I have this PC with i7 4770s and recently I bought an 1060 3G .by upgrading GPU my PSU (280 watt ) died I need to upgrade PSU but no any PSU found more then 280 watt and I want 500 watt can I use the 24 to 14 pin connector or not please answer
Most people who prefer windows only prefer it because they haven't actually tried Linux. With win7 gone by the wayside, you can't really say "it just works" anymore. Win10 is a chore and win11 scares me deeply. Like if Freddy Kruger came at me in my dreams he would force install win 11 to my dream pc.
What did desktop computers cost in the 90's? What were they capable of? What do the vast majority of computer users today use computers for? How much does the average American spend per week on lottery? $40 as far as I'm concerned is a great deal! If you have no use for it, Take the time to help an older person have a computer to email family and play solitaire. The good feelings reward are well worth it!
Yep, sometimes you just need windows. My business is stuck using windows still (for only 3 pieces of software, alas). That said, the last time I installed windows was last year. Windows 3.11 on my retro 386dx. Sometimes you just need windows ; )
My CPU by itself can draw 105W’s, My GPU is 350W, just my chip and mobo would overload that PSU my mobo is 80W I run a 750W 80 plus platinum modular server PSU
You didn't get totally screwed but the seller did lie to ya. I've seen a time I'd of died for this machine. Best thing you did was add that SSD drive, now all you need is a decent GPU and different PSU. While you're in there, toss in a couple case fans and you'd be golden.
Windows 10 is a perfectly serviceable OS, but he should go with the LTSC version without all the spooky resource hogging bloatware running in the background.
I made a router running pfSense using an old 2500k that honestly was just sheer overkill. Is that motherboard has gigabit ethernet you could just throw another ethernet card in there and build a router that could block ads and do all their kinds of cool stuff.
I would honestly say to max it out as much as you can. For a GPU, just use whatever you have lying around. If you decide to buy a new GPU, an RX 6400 will be way more than sufficient. For used, something like a GTX 1050 Ti low profile (low wattage use) or even a GTX 1650 Low Profile. I think both GPU's would work well in there, within the PSU's limitations, as well as what the computer is capable of accepting, as the CPU will likely bottleneck with either of them.
since the Intel Dual Core2 most work well with light internet work, if your looking for energy efficient stuff look at the NEW 4 core cpus. they do more with less energy, but cost too much.
