This Plane Is A Handicapped Powerhouse - F8F-1 

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@AXIOMATICLORDcan confirm. (I am chat)

It is what it is?

​@@maze2133it's what it's

We are War Thunder players, we are all handicapped 🗿🍷

And then we just go o-

Did you open the door?

Did everybody walk the dinosaur?

what death cuts? defyn clearly always carries the match, you just gotta trust him

and then i killed the whole team, moving along

I've loled

Is the 1b the one with cannons?

​@@6._d._.a._.n_.9ye

@@kingghidorah8106 weren’t they nerfed into oblivion?

@@6._d._.a._.n_.9 yes, a lot of guns went to shit with the Realshatter (which funnily enough doesn't randomize the fragmentation but straight up removes it)

​@@6._d._.a._.n_.9fix fixed that thankfully

Nowhere near as sealclubbing as the 109F-4 in arcade. That plane is the cancer of 4.0 AB. The bearcat really gets held back by its forepower in AB unless you take the pods

Was pretty op when it came out back in the day. Was one of my favorite props

@@brettwatts7691 well especially because it had the M3 50 Cals from the Sabre 😅😂

@@Brazmann021 Naval, american planes tend to have a really low gear switch altitude for 1st stage, Shockingly the aircraft carriers tend to be placed at sea level in 100% of cases.

@@Brazmann021 Yessir, it has 3 gears. First one is 800m and the second is around 4000m but Im not sure the exact number.

bruh lmao

How do I even manage MEC?

@@poliznia defyn actually made a guide on this with someone else! Go find that video! However, you need to set the key binds for switching controls and managing the engine settings. Defyn used the numpad and so do I. Someone here, and also in the comments of defyn’s f8f-1b video, has the MEC settings for flying this and keeping the temperature down and performance up. Go find it (I’m too lazy to go see what I set it to and what he did) and watch the MEC video in defyns tutorials.

the FBF-1B still has the 4 20mm M3 cannons, though.

Pretty much. The F8F will test the player's knowledge on engine heat mechanics to make it a good aircraft.

@@martijn9568 its not too hard a concept to grasp either, like you wouldn't be flooring it in your car or truck when your driving irl and the same thing applies with planes

​​@@heckingsnekdogeeah, but on the F8F you need to lower your throttle below 90% if you're flying for more than 15 minutes or so. That's just a bit uncommon for Warthunder, but the same applies for many other aircraft after 30 minutes if you aren't using MEC.

I almost forgot Will record soon

@@DEFYN You're a real G

Every plane is a sitting duck against the A6M5 if it has a bad pilot. If it has anything better than a bad pilot the A6M5 is a sitting duck. This is why the A6M5 is considered a bad plane and is called an idiot tax by good players. It is only good if the opposing player is bad. Sure, a majority of the players in game are bad but that doesn't mean that the A6M5 is itself good.

@@rainsilent True. Against good players, rare as they may be, I'm mostly relegated to evasive maneuvers and being a distraction until someone faster can take care of whoever's harassing me. Anyone who's good at maintaining high speeds in engagements with the A6M is untouchable, and anyone in an A6M familiar enough with its performance in low speed maneuvers is untouchable

@@nitrocharge2404 The last part about A6Ms being untouchable isn't true. If you are at slow speeds you are basically turning in place. Combine that with predicting, or anticipating if the A6M player is very predictable, so that your guns are aimed in the direction that you think the A6M will go makes it very, very easy to land hits on an A6M.

Bro it's 6.3 now I'm getting fly by killed by interceptors and jets

IRL I think it can at rated altitude with water injection

Gaijin`s balancemeasures

Except these issues don't go away outside of mouse aim. Even with joystick they have the same limitations. These limitations are hard coded into the FMs. Gaijin has been artificially manipulating how much elevator planes can pull since WT was released. Historically the A7M had less high speed compression than the A6M. In game the A6M has less compression. Historically the A6Ms couldn't pull lead on a P-51 at 300mph. In game they have no problem out turning everything beyond 400mph.

@@rainsilent You can definitely pull more in realistic or full real control modes, even with just your mouse. In certain planes if you press your pitch up button for less than a second, the plane will stall, flip and (most likely) crash. That doesn't happen in mouse aim.

@@s_ziel Yes, you can pull more in a very, very brief instant but you can't sustain that pull. You can also do that very, very brief instant pull with mouse aim too if your hand and mouse can move quick enough.

@@rainsilent for example on F4U you can just hold the pitch up button and it will pull 80%, which is a vast improvement compared to 65% in mouse aim. This capability differs a lot from plane to plane, some planes (eg Fw 190) holding pitch up will make the kind of pull you mentioned, on others (eg Ta 152) the same will instantly stall the plane. To achieve most consistency better use a physical joystick (or a gamepad stick) and you can pull 80% on basically all planes.

@@s_ziel I've tested this myself a number of times.

Honestly, try playing them like you would an attacker aircraft sometime, rather than a traditional fighter. Probably one of the best ways to make your team win using a p47. Easier on the later p47s, though.

The F8F is a lot faster than a 152H and has a much better climb rate. It also has better high speed handling. Sure the 152H has a massive E-ret advantage and handles better at low speeds but that is all it has going for it. So long as the F8F plays to it's strengths it shouldn't have a hard time winning the fight.

​@@rainsilentthe flaps on the 152 will rail a bearcat

@@rainsilent True, it is probably faster with a better climbrate (not so sure on the dive performance), but I think a seasoned Ta 152 H player can still put up a fight. Yes, the F8F has a better climbrate, but the Ta can run away and force the fight on their terms. Yes, the F8F is faster which gives it the option to run away, but you then limit yourself to the headon, which automatically reduces your advantage. In a situation where the F8F has more kinetic and potential energy, sure, it will do well. That said, that's not particularly impressive seeing as you can say the same about many other planes. Besides, there will be a lot of fights where you're forced into a low-speed engagement, and in that scenario the Ta dominates. So, the F8F no doubt has its strengths, but I think the Ta 152 H won't have a "hard time" either, ESPECIALLY given the initial airspawn and consequential early-game impact.

@@Flayrr872 The 152H can't run away in any way shape or form at normal combat alts. The 152H is slower below 7km and has worse compression when diving. The F8F can do over 400mph on the deck under perma WEP conditions. The 152H doesn't break 400 until around 4.5km where the F8F is doing about 420 on WEP. The only advantages the 152H holds are turn rate at slow speeds and MER. In a prolonged maneuvering fight the 152H will eventually win, and it won't take much prolonged fighting for that to start happening, but there are plenty of advantages the F8F can leverage before it gets to that point to beat a 152H. All things equal the 152H will have a harder time in a 1v1 fight unless it can sucker the F8F into a position the F8F shouldn't let itself be put into.

@@williewilson2250 Not immediately. The turn rates are similar until both get to slow speeds. This is where the MER of the 152H will dominate the F8F though.

F8F-1 not the 1b

@@jordangames2560 i know the 4 50s we’re a little bit lacking but again 5.0 is crazy

This was because of the USN and the need to takeoff from carriers. Supercharger 1 has a crit alt below sea level to maximize engine power on the deck of an aircraft carrier so the pilot had the maximum takeoff power that the engine could possibly provide when trying to takeoff from a carrier. This was needed because USN aircraft typically only had about 2/3rds of the carrier's flight deck to actually use to takeoff from. The gear change alt for the 1st supercharger gear was ~400m.

​@@rainsilentI've noticed that things gaijin models right are the ones players know the least about

The F8F-1 has a 1 stage supercharger because small size and weight reduction was the aim of the design. F4U and F6F run a much bigger 2 stage supercharger that makes them better at high alt. The F8F engine still with just 1 stage is a pretty advanced supercharger so the engine crit alt is still pretty decent with 1945 100/130 fuel settings, about 3000m for 1st speed and 7000m for 2nd speed. But the F8F-1 in game is running 1949 115/145 fuel settings producing on wep a very high power setting that makes that on zero speed 1st supercharger speed crit alt is below sea level and 2nd supercharger speed at only about 3km. F8F-1 in game 1st speed is very nerfed in terms of power with ram air, in comparation with aeronautical laboratory reports it is missing about 200HP at 650kph. At SL it should produce 2800hp instead of 2600hp and the alt at what power goes down to 2400hp should be like 1000m higher. Also on static take off 2nd speed should not make more power than 1st speed, that is just a bug.

@@Metrallaroja I was specifying why some US radials had a "useless" 1st supercharger gear. Not what the supercharger gear settings were specifically on the F8F.

@@rainsilent F4U F6F and F4F have what you call useless first speed because they bypass the second stage supercharger. The air goes directly to the first stage supercharger. This has multiple advantages like better cooling for taxi operations and landing/take off (if you bypass 2nd stage you also bypass the intercooler that cools the air from the 2nd stage to the 1st stage), increased low alt power because you only run one stage, better fuel economy etc

Didn't the F8F-2 get a weaker engine putting out 2300 hp, rather than the 2800 hp of the F8F-1? Edit the -1 and -2 probably develop the same horse power figures at altitude, except at really low altitude where the -1 1st stage supercharger shines over the -2 variable speed supercharger.

@@martijn9568 F8F-1 had an R-2800 34W with 2,100HP, F8F-2 had an R-2800 30W with 2,250

Years of experience and he can put himself in a situation where he isn’t the target for planes. Pick your battles and that’s what he does best.

In my experience playing 5.0 (although as a German plane), you'll usually get at least one or two ju288 players, but you'll almost always have a well-balanced team and a decent balance of enemy brs.