This Scene from REBELS might predict Andor's Ending 

I think Dedra is going to fall prey to intraoffice politics & she’ll be turned into a cautionary tale for other Imperials. After that anyone claiming that the rebels are anything more than pockets of resistance will be seen as overreacting/overreaching & dismissed out of hand by their superiors.

Can we just take a minute to acknowledge that Dedra is an absolute transcendent totalitarian maniac, and the actress who portrayed her deserves ALL the awards for her magnificent performance?

I doubt admiral Constantine keeps up on all the ISB memos.

Dedra is ISB and that other scene from Rebels was an Imperial Navy officer. That’s like the CIA sharing compartmentalized operational details with a Naval/Army command, that is not affiliated with the investigative effort.

I think Luthen is gonna die and they will think the organized rebellion died with him. Not knowing that Mon is ,or will become the biggest player. I would love to see more of the formation. Especially those high ranking officers defecting ,like Riekan and Doddana etc etc.

I'd imagine it stays isolated to ISB operations due to bureaucracy and a lack of blatant proof probably needed for other departments. Either that, or an also likely possibility that Konstantine rejected the notions of such as simply being another move for power positioning from other offices.

I think Syril will unintentionally undermine and end Dedea's credibility and standing with the ISB. His obsession for order in the galaxy and bringing Andor to justice will lead him to make a scene in front of her supervisors that leads to a more dismissive approach after she's swept aside.

Luthen is playing 3d chess. He said he's excited about her looking into Axis. I think that whole identity is paper thin and will crumble when she tries to look into it. Maybe he's even done things to tie it back to her, making it look like she created the situation herself.

I guess in the run of this series we’re gonna see how the ISB didn’t disclose everything to the Imperial Navy or the various Moffs around the galaxy. In the end I believe Dedra is going to perish whilst trying to catch the link that can prove her theory on the proof of a galaxy wide rebellion.

She has the most revolting sneer of any woman that I’ve seen in a long time. Perfect casting

Ah, yes. Konstantine. He definitely pays attention to briefings.

I would chalk it up to empires hubris. I am sure some in the military scoffed and laughed at the idea that there were rebels, out there.

It's important to remember that the ISB is technically separate from the Imperial Navy/military. I think in Andor, Meero is slowly convincing the ISB of a larger conspiracy. However, later in Rebels the ISB is trying to now convince the military.

I think Deidra’s standing is going to plummet next season as she takes the blame for Rix Road. We’ve had it seeded now that the ISB thinks that Kreegyr might have been Axis. Preening from the success of the trap that destroyed Kreegyr’s Separatist cell and Deidra on the outs after her failure on Ferrix, i think the ISB may consider the whole matter wrapped up (which is exactly the kind of overconfidence Luthen was hoping for when he allowed them to take down Kreegyr’s cell). At this point ISB hasn’t told the navy anything about a galaxy wide rebel network. If they think they resolved the problem themselves already, they won’t. Deidra may be left the Cassandra warning the Empire about the true surviving and expanding vastness of the rebel alliance.

She uncovers it, but (as predicted) is stabbed in the back by one of her peers and her investigation is abandoned...

Or the ISB suits buried it, trying to hide their inability to understand or fight from Palpatine and his wrath.

I feel like she will end up being sabotaged by one of her jealous coworkers and subsequently blamed for the failure and fired. Then we'll see her get recruited by Thrawn in a post credit scene.

I think Meero is only following one faction of the rebels that is stealing the tech and doesn't know about how many other factions there are. It's not at the level it was at the beginning of RO and Episode IV by any means. I don't even think Meero can fathom how huge and united the rebel effort become in a few years.

An opinion that I haven't seen yet is that perhaps the empire finds, traps/engages and squashes what they believe is the entirety/majority of the rebellion. Thus removing the spotlight from the remaining rebels and inciting more to join the cause. Leading up to the events in R1 and A New Hope. Just a thought, idk if this idea conflicts with any existing info out there.

I also think this council wouldn’t necessarily tell everyone what they know? So the guy on the Ship may not know what they know higher up the organization

Andor and Rebels take place around the same timeframe so its no surprise that the ISB would keep secrets to the imperial military about how widespread the problem actually is. Filloni stated that it wasn't the efforts of the Ghost crew that created the Rebel Alliance but multiple rebel cells exploding at the same time all over the galaxy (AKA the events of Andor, Rebels and others)

I think it’s going to come down to the Emperors overconfidence, he says in Return of the Jedi that he allowed the Rebels to launch their attack. I suspect he’s doing the same thing Luthen is and is letting the Rebels build up so he has an enemy to unite the Empire against. I suspect Dedra is going to get swept under the rug to allow this to happen.

Easy to explain- The ISB (or the admiralty) doesn't make a habit of telling everyone how widespread the Rebellion is. It's not like Tarkin agreed with Konstantine, or even needed to correct him for him to do his job. Officers like Tarkin and Thrawn and Yularen knew. But it works to their advantage if the rank and file don't, because it's easier to spot their mistakes.

Tbh I’d say that the ISB and the navy doesn’t directly share information, Only when they request it.

There are often numerous Intelligence agencies, various agents within those agencies that have different takes on how terrorist cells or secret enemy agencies operate. The idea that the entire empire would be in sync with how the entire rebellion is put together would be pretty far fetched. World leaders barely have an idea of what enemy countries are planning whereas this is a secret rebellion spread across a galaxy.

You could read between the lines and argue that palatine knows about the organised rebellion and suspects it may have ties to couroscant and the inner worlds but for obvious posturing reasons keeps it on the down-low and doesn’t commit to any sort of witch hunt, instead opting for planet destroying super weapons as an insurance policy first.

The ISB would keep something like this quieteven from let the Imperial Navy. Tarkin is most likely aware but would never allow his subordinates to know otherwise unless there was no other choice.

To be fair Andor makes it explicitly clear that while the ISB now has regional navy and army resources that's only recent. Plus the Imperial Navy is an entirely separate branch of the Empire. The ISB is basically the CIA / FBI of the Empire rolled into one organization. More like the OSS.

Perhaps the ISB is keeping information about the severity of the rebellion in order to maintain order, control, and no panic, even downplaying the rebels to prevent Imperial military defections, theft and sabotage. Thats how i see it. Information is power to the ISB.

Ahhh I hope we get to see a live action version of Agent Kallus in Andor! Perhaps all of this is why Kallus is so focused on the “insurgents” in SW Rebels!

If i had to guess its probably gonna be something the ISB wouldn't want getting out to the public or lower ranks of the navy as it could rally more rebels to the cause.

Star War Rebels spans the 5 years before Yavin, just like Andor is supposed to so it’s probable that in the scene from Rebels ISB is still trying to piece things together.

Yeah I'm not sure what episode of rebels that was from and if it really was two years later than where Andor currently is. Rebels also began in 5 bby. Isn't it tarkin's ship they free kanaan from at end of season one? But even if it really is 3 bby for the Constantine clip, lothal was outer rim. So far andor has taken place core and mid rim. So there may not have been connections between outer rim resistence when those lines were spoken. In fact the spectres then could be the first one in which case you'd have to give BIG props to gilroy it for adhering to canon

True loyalty to the Empire takes a back seat to ones own ambitious! That's why the empire kept failing. The rebellion had one gold an so many had that same point in mind. The rebels had loyalty to the cause!

I cannot explain how happy I would be to see live action Kanan. Like, the rest of the Ghost crew too obviously, but they're already coming to live action in the Ahsoka series. But Kanan... I need to see live action kanan

We're following Mothma pretty closely, and in Rebels we Saw the moment that she speaks out and has to run away, rescued by the Ghost Crew. I just hope we get that moment in Andor. Make the moment transition to the Rebels episode directly.

I feel like kallus, another ISB agent, understood the Rebels had a level of organization about them, so it’s possible the ISB does find out, but decides to play it close to the vest, so the Rebels can’t find out they are being watched via one of their leaks in the other imperial branches

Everyone writes their own Star Wars story.

It’s evidence of how close ISB kept knowledge of the rebellion to their chests. Not even alerting Imperial Marines or Navy except at the highest levels.

That animated character sounds like he's voiced be Matt Smith.

I think it's fairly obvious, nobody admits their mistakes. They say during the prison break, "Nobody outside knows what's going on here". Not hard to assume that one department doesn't report their mistakes to another. The Emperor and Vader don't tolerate failure and someone having this information on another department would be a death sentence

What the ISB knows isn't widely known especially to someone like an Imperial navy officer

Sadly the empire is too thick to comprehend. Dedra will hit a brick wall. They won't listen and keep her quiet probably

The simplest explanation is the ISB doesn't tell the military most things including this.

It's totally possible that the commander in Rebels did not know about previous networked rebel activities, Dedra is ISB, and they often don't share everything with the Imperial Naval officers

I bet I know. They still the plans for the Death Star and then Andor gets blown up.

Mind blowing fact: Dedra is also the voice of Yennefer from The Witcher 3.....

I don't think the Empire will pinpoint the rebel plan completely but they will remain suspicious and the price to that will be the sacrifice of Luthen and our beloved heroes eventually.

Partigaz did tell her to watch her back... maybe she didn't do such a good job of that.

It could be the Empire being so large that it fails to communicate with itself. We’ve seen that the Empire had Andor in prison while looking for him. Fake name or not, he looks the same.

THIS IS A REBELLION! i guess we may get Bale Organa at the end of Episode 12? Hell of a way to reveal luthens true identity since they were aquainted before Luthen / Kento Marek left the Jedi Order to get married and start a family on WOOKIE World. The empire kIlled his wife, all his Jedi Besties and stole his force sensitive son. You start to understand why he is all in on Destroying them.

Fair observation. I suppose how Andor plays out will indicate whether they did their research or not. Hopefully they don't create a plot conflict.

I think any failure on ISB's part to quash a budding rebellion would never in a million years make its way to the ears of the Imperial Navy. The officer's statement implies nothing about the ISB's efforts, successes, or failures, because he wouldn't have the clearance to know regardless.

My bet is on Dedra not understanding the politics of the ISB. She’s great as an ISB agent but infighting and the internal politics which she isn’t able to handle or understand very well as demonstrated by her conflict with the guy who was supervising Ferrix earlier, I think that she’ll get fucked over by someone or a faction in the ISB that doesn’t like her effectively taking control of their sectors (which they’re probably pretty prideful about) which will cause the rest of the empire to ignore her.

I thought that these two scenes actually happen at roughly the same time? I might be wrong but they within the same year I think or the Admiral scene is before in the time like.

It could be a failure of communication between production teams, however, in universe there's a multitude of ways that plot hole could be explained away. In the Star Wars universe the imperial security bureau is known for operating largely in secrecy and for the most part, not openly sharing its information. It's a minor plot point in andor that the ISBs ability to freely access reports from all branches of the empire is still a relatively new thing. Nowhere did it say that the imperial Army and Navy have the ability to freely access the ISB's data. It's possible that supervisor dedra could have proven the galactic coordination of rebel groups, but that information was not shared freely with the imperial Navy or Army. It also fits the empire's style that this information may have been deliberately concealed as part of the imperial propaganda campaign. In effect, create the illusion that the rebels are small and isolated groups rather than a growing movement. Alternatively, in the show Star Wars rebels the character that gives that line, I forget his name, is known throughout the show to be massively incompetent, and generally ill-informed in any situation.

she's an agent trying to get close to the emperor...

Maybe by the time of this Rebels episode the Empire "believed" that they destroyed the rebel network or made propaganda efforts to cover it up to look good.

Ideologs are often full of it. Sometimes regimens even demand it if it is the current narrative. Btw; we are not in a recession and crime is down 😂

I'm 100% confident the two production teams didn't communicate with each other. It is the job of Disney's oversight board to avoid incongruity.

I doubt the ISB is letting it become common knowledge just how interconnected the Rebellion is. Need to know and all that.

The Isb is notorious for keeping secrets, so it's not unlikely that they would only tell high ranking imperials as well as instruct said imperials to keep it under wraps

I think it shall be a puzzle that all fits togethor..... and I love it. I suspect Meero will have some setbacks...

Dedra is ISB. The secret police like organization. Even if they had evidence of a coordinated rebellion like what is trying to prove, it doesn’t mean the rank and file (even higher up officers) would know this.

Failure of others to accept just how coordinated the rebel alliance was.

Andor is just so dam good at showcasing the inner workings of the Empire

Coincidence. Just because everyone in the Imperial ranks isn't up to speed on all the intelligence doesn't mean anything.

Great question! I believe her efforts will be sabotaged or explained away.

It may be that two years later the various Rebel groups still didn't sort out their differences and amalgamated into the united and organized movement Luther attempted so hard to drive them to become. After all that's the whole point of Ezra's broadcast at the finalle of Rebels season one and the Mon Mothma's defection arc and later Saw Guerrera's attempt to lure her rebel group into his fold in later seasons.

If I remember right, shortly after that rebel scene, or right after it, tarkin (or thrawn) says that's what they want the galaxy to believe Could just get covered up to keep it from spreading

I was under the impression Andor is happening during the same period as Rebels.

I honestly didn’t realize it till last episode but Mon is really hot 🤔 like Super freaking hot.

The nail that sticks out get hammered.

Probably, the info didn't get outside of the ISB. Resulting in lower enlisted being left in the dark.

Image that. A government/ military body have more than one poler opposing views on what they believe is happening around them. It’s one group that discard the rebels as nothing but individual’s pockets and another that see them as a unifying network coming together to a larger whole. That never happens in real life.😂

The Admiral was widely known for being quite incompetent, so if he even had clearance to read the reports, he wouldn't have made any sense of it. The military answered to the ISB upon request, not the other way around. He was probably in the dark of the complete magnitude of the rebellion.

How old is Deirdre ? Would you say she could be about the age of Andor's sister ? Could those golden locks hide the dark roots of a girl from Canari ? Does Star Wars like the whole family thing too much? Would they do that to us ? Another separated kids story line? Imagine a young girl caught in a security sweep and dropped off at an imperial orphanage. Then, her genetics and super high IQ get her funneled into the imperial machine as an intelligence officer. It could make for a twist at the end when she sees the genetic scans of Andor and realizes who he is.

Just finished the series. Dedra almost got her hands on someone who could prove the connection, however in the end, they escape. As a Naval officer he wouldn't be privy to ISB conference meeting, especially when the theory isn't proven.

She’s a small fish in a galaxy-sized ocean.

Some people you can provide mountains of evidence about a topic and if they do not wish to believe it they will dismiss it

In real world terms it's probably a lack of coordination. In universe terms, It could just be that not everybody has briefed on everything when you are dealing with a... GALACTIC EMPIRE.

She'll probably fail on the whole because we know the rebellion succeeds. However I could definitely believe that inter-service rivalry between the ISB and military would cause some communication issues and skepticism

There will always people who don't believe even when proof is shoved in their faces. Those people usually die.

The imperials kept underestimating the scale of the Rebellion until it was big and connected enough to be a threat impossible to deny.

It could be that the naval officers aren't made aware of the ISBs findings

It could be the ISB deliberately withholding information from other departments to prevent the knowledge of how bad the problem is from getting out

I think it’s weird hearing Crosshairs and Techs voice come out of an Imp Officer 😂😂😂

The Empire would go to extraordinary lengths to keep talk of an orginized, capable resistance to a minimum as long as they possibly could. That kind of information would remain highly classified and agressively discouraged long after it became common knowledge.

Rebels is taking place at the same time Andor is taking place just fyi.

Perhaps she was sabatogued by a political rival, or an ambitious underling.

I think it could be like any big enterprise, multiple factions opinions and POV’s

It's covered explicitly in Rebels by Thrawn and in Namik's manifesto. Rank and file goons believe the Empire is an insurmountable force but the smart ones on top know they're vulnerable to a death by 1000 cuts and there's billions of knives out for them, waiting for a gentle push

I would be leading ISB not disclosing this info to the Imperial Navy because they lose track of them.

I hope they connect it so it all makes sense

Sometimes different governmental bodies do not share information or wven dismiss information.

Well she is ISB, and that officer is Imperial Military. The CIA and other alphabet agencies don't always communicate with the military so both of them could be correct. Based on the information that they had available to them, of course.

I imagine it is very difficult to keep everyone in the loop in such a large empire. Personal experience of commanders will mean they don't take central ISB info too seriously, as they don't know what it is like "out there"

Mira wasn’t saying the rebels were working together. She just said that equipment stolen was sold or given to diffrent rebel groups.

I don't think Dedra will fail to comprehend the scale at which the Rebels are operating, rather, she will fail at convincing the higher-ups of continuously growing Rebel activity.

The scene two years later is among military ppl. ISD is a covert operations group so, what they know and act on may not filter down to rank and file naval officers and governors like price.