Also, video fails to acknowledge the high end 4 stars that are on the roster too. Derrick Moore was a Top 50 player in his class coming out of high school, as was the same for Donovan Edwards. Kenneth Grant was a 3 star, and a “Gift from the Football Gods”. Staff has a knack for finding, evaluating and developing that home grown talent
@@demodiums7216 Well what do you consider them to be when not a single one of them made it about them and they were all focused on the team as a whole?
@@demodiums7216 Even if you believe harbaugh was a part of the cheating you can't seriously claim the players arn't of the highest charecter in football. They had nothing to do with the "cheating"
@@sankdom4598 they all knew lol. There is videos of playets relaying signals they got from Stallions. I respect Michigan in general....but this year they were dirty...in more ways than the sign stealing. Offensive coordinator fired preseason for hacking computers....staffer trying to meet a 13 year old girl. Not a clean program right now
I’m 67 years old, and a life long Michigan football fan. The 2023 season was THE most thrilling season of football I’ve ever witnessed! I’m sure it’ll look different in the 2024 season with Harbaugh gone, and McCarty and Corum gone. But so glad that Edwards is coming back. I was also so happy the Moore was named head coach! He brought these guys through 6 games that everyone thought would be a loss. He really proved himself. Anyway, go BLUE!!! 💙
Not convinced the success will continue, the M admin went with the cheapest option in every way for football, very little NIL $, we'll see, love to be wrong, but I have doubts.
Never cried tears of joy in 32 years of life...until after the Alabama games last play. Then again after mikeys pick in the natty. True story! Nice video. Go Blue
@@honestfan442 I think it was also because both my grandfathers weren't alive anymore to share it with our family. You may not get it, or even like football, but in my opinion it's more than ok to be moved to tears from something as beautiful as that season was. And I have no shame, my boy.
Stars don’t matter, especially not in the trenches. Michigan won the natty because they had the best culture in college football, which led to one of the most resilient and tough teams in the last 10 years. Other teams may have had 5 stars but Michigan ran an nfl style scheme where they played to their strengths and eliminated talent. We had the toughest team in the cfb, the best, most complex defense, and the best coach and defensive coordinator that year. The argument that Michigan shouldn’t have won because of their lack of talent or because they didn’t play Georgia is utter BS
I feel like South Dakota State are Michigan are two very similar programs that are having success at the same time, we just got our first 4 star recruit ever this year, and a surprising amount of our “stars” started out as walk-ons, with 2 of those walk-ons starting in the nfl right now
No bs a few years ago I remember I saw JJ Mcarthy walking through campus with his girlfriend after a game. And I thought to myself, what if this kid wins is a national championship? Then 2 years later, we are national champions!
A team of dedicated, hard working young men who wanted nothing more than to improve, grow, and play as a unit. Mikey Sainristil is a huge name right now. He was mentioned last year later on, but this year? People rave about him. These guys grew, as players and people and there are so many good kids coming out of that team. Coaching staff and BEN MF HERBERT built those guys! And the blueprint to win was just what they needed. Go Blue.
@@music4me007You think some team in the last 20/30/40 years has won without cheating? Dude, seriously. Today isn’t anymore wild than Miami or Switzer’s Sooners in the 80’s. Or or or.
@@pieterteeuwissen the inducements getting your dad a job or giving you a bunch of cash in a McDonald's bag I get all that. To me that's completely different than on field cheating. The NCAA and the Big ten both said there was indisputable evidence of the impermissible scheme that Michigan was using. They were allowed to just keep playing. It's crazy. Do you think they threw away all the information they gathered about all these teams? Michigan had an unfair advantage. Everybody knew it and they were allowed to just win a national championship with that advantage. Like I said, crazy times in college football.
Recruits who commit to The Michigan football program seem to somehow drop in their class. Even though they have just as good of a year, if not better, than they had the year prior to committing. This video just shows how elite Michigan is at developing their players.
Exactly. A player could be a 5 star until he commits to michigan and then the slide to a mid 4 star begins, even with a stellar senior season. Don't mind though, like being the underdog/villian.
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Their defensive pursuit was relentless, JJ was outstanding in picking up 1st downs, clutch catches, running game, beautiful! ALL the team dominated the field & played to their ability. God, it was gorgeous ! And yes, I shed tears of joy for them - they were dedicated to their mission & played their hearts out! Damn. It's good to be - a Michigan Wolverine !
when you run the ball as much as the Wolverines did and throw as little as they did, it goes a long way to protecting the football and helping to make that turnover margin quite good.
As an Ohio State fan I can say this team was special! Respect due to these guys and the season they had. I still feel they could have even won it as well in 2022 and been back to back champs. Semi worried about a drop off with a lot of draft prospects and coaching changes. I want them to do well to keep this rivalry strong. Go Bucks,but keep up the hustle Blue!
I always seem to get crazy looks when I tell my fellow Michigan fans I’d rather see OSU be strong than some 8-3 team heading into The Game. I love that The Game often is very consequential now.
What you witnessed is what was supposed to happen... the young princes have returned to their winning throne "Hail to the victors valiant" -those who stay will be champions...
If you want to play a team game, develop your skillset and position yourself to play at the next level, you go to Ann Arbor. Period. Hail, Hail to the Leaders and Best, Champions of the West. Go Blue!
As a 47 year old lifelong Michigan fan, I remember that defense from 1997. The one that produced the only defensive Heisman winner. Me & a couple of other numbers obsessed diehards thought 144 had a ton of potential. But this really was a once in a lifetime team. I kept reminding my 19 year old son of that. Great video HAIL to all those who celebrate! 〽️ And always #GoBlue
@@Alex-zi1nb I don't think that he did. He didn't play in that game until the end.. that was McNamara at the helm then.. JJ came in late and got us out only TD.. but I don't think he would have been saying that from like a team leader perspective at that time.
Shows you that teams with all the talent in the world can win most of the time. But when you go against grown men who are coached great and developing rankings don’t mean everything
@@nelsonbermudez8273yeah crazy how they managed to get by juggernauts such as East Carolina and UNLV before they were caught. Teams like Penn State and Ohio State stood no chance even after Michigan got put under investigation.
@@nelsonbermudez8273we cheated at the start of the year when we vs'd bad teams and when we vs'd good teams we didn't cheat your just mad we Won the championship
@@King_prodzzz at least you admitted they cheated. So if you cheat during the season where you need every game to make the playoffs perhaps you didn't deserve to be in the playoffs. Hmmm. Cheating Champions.
The way that Michigan defensive lied, devoured offensive lines at both Alabama and then Washington proves just so formidable that defense was. Truly tops in the country!
I knew Alabama was the actual Championship game, after that I knew we'd run through Washington. I think the west coast teams joining the B1G are going to have some losses when they travel east.
Some fun stats to look at for this Michigan team are how long they spent in the lead, and how long their "game winning" score was on the board in total.
Noticing on that chart that Washington and Texas didn’t have any five stars. I’d also say, for Kenneth Grant and Mason Graham to play at THAT high of a level as just sophomores, they should have been five stars in HS. They were three stars in a lot of rankings 🤣
Thanks for putting up the graph of the great defenses... I didn't know this team was on That level. The 97 National Championship team had an incredible defense as well. I wonder how it would stack against this year
subbed. looking forward to what you’ll drop next. extremely high quality video. THAT’S how you start a channel. Looking forward to you blowing up because it shouldn’t take long.
@@dkny2980 go look at 247.. 5 star.. only way he would drop is cause he committed too Michigan just like will, JJ, & Jayden Davis did.. he was still the #2 RB in his class before he committed
@@Im__juju he absolutely dropped because he committed to Michigan. The 247 composite ranked him as a 4 star the the 4th RB in the class. 247, alone, ranked him as a 5 star. But its Funny how that happens when someone turns down Bama or UGA. Same thing happed to Jadyn Davis.
Let this fact sink it-let's compare some football schools on how their men's basketball teams have done historically: MICHIGAN -7 national title games, 1 natty, 3 NIT titles and 8 Final Fours ALABAMA -going to their first Final Four. CLEMSON -never been to a Final Four. FLORIDA STATE -1 national title game. USC -never been to a Finals Four GEORGIA -1 Final Four. NEBRASKA -never been to a Finals Four. PENN STATE -never been to a Finals Four. OKLAHOMA -1 national title game. OHIO STATE-5 national title games, 9 Final Fours, 1 national title. FLORIDA -3 national title games, 2 national titles and 4 Final Fours. LSU-2 Final Fours. NOTRE DAME -2 Final Fours I believe Of those schools, MICHIGAN (most title games and NIT titles), FLORIDA (most titles) and OHIO STATE (most Final Fours). 2 Big 10 schools.
Yeah well they treat kids at Michigan like they are in the pros so they have to study harder and train better. They also are great at locating talent that would be best fit for there program. Leaders. They have to play for eachother and themselves. Each player is a leader and taught to bet on themselves. That's why 30 of these guys from that team if not more will be drafted. Michigans players were like coaches on the field. They just do it different up there so if I'm a parent or a kid who wants to go pro that's where I'm going. Sherone Moore is not going to change what works.
Just sayin, anyone who knew ball knew michigan was gonna win the natty. I called it right after they lost to TCU. They only had two five stars but they had players who were the best at their position in the country who came out of high school as 3-4 stars. look at blake corum. He was the best running back in the country last year and they had edwards too. They were gonna have the best offensive line in the country and JJ was gonna be really good. If you look at it all they obviously gonna be super good. I would say they fell short of expectations for me. I mean their running game took a decent step back and so did their O line. I would say the passing game met expectations and so did the defense tho maybe they were a little short of them. I going into the year didn't think they would have a single game where they left it within one score.
I agree, completely never thought it would happen without all the five stars that most national champions have had in the playoff era, Clemson being one of the only exceptions, but they had more than Michigan did,and when you add to that that they won a national title by running off tackle up the middle into a loaded box with Blake Corum that was basically there offensive That’s why against any good team they played down the stretch they often sputtered at times and people kept saying that Michigan office was nonexistent for 2 quarters for example, in the Rose Bowl that was just the way they played. They knew even if you stop them they find a way to win because of their defense remarkable national championship not the best team of the playoff era, but the most remarkable national title because of the way they did it on the field And the low five star ratio
You can thank the transfer portal, a CFB Playoff and NIL for this. The consolidation of talent at the 5 major programs, who were already funneling money to student athletes, is no longer exclusive to them. I find it interesting that Nick Saban retires the minute that the chickens come home to roost and Alabama can't hoard a third of the top 100 players on their roster anymore. Nick Saban is still the CFB goat, but you can't tell me that the last 20 years of college football dominance by a handful of programs was due to college football "just meaning more" in a certain area of the country. Especially now, after the well documented money funneling scheme E SEC P N had cooking for years but vehemently denied. College football is currently a completely unmitigated disaster. Yet, I get the strange feeling that going forward, the game will finally be played on its most even playing field to date.
Agreed. Saban is the goat because of his ability to "convince" all the top players to sign with Alabama. His coaching acumen isn't heads and tails above a whole bunch of other coaches. How many games did he face an opponent while being at a talent disadvantage while being at Alabama?
Saban said there were two main reasons he retired. One being he's getting too old. He felt that he needed to be younger to spend the energy it took to get this Alabama team back on track and felt that if he were younger he would have probably had a different play in mind in OT against Michigan. The second was in player meetings after the season, the players were more concerned with how much they were going to make and how they would be assured playing time or they'd transfer away. They weren't at all interested in development for both football and real life. He and his wife both talked about it just before he made the decision to retire.
Saban’s final press conference kind of says a lot about the negatives of it. I agree with you, though, that he was milking it then and is sad now that its everywhere. Hard to say, but as a CFB fan, I do wish there were some more lines to not be crossed again. So many transfers, and the coaching carousel is wilder than ever.
As a Michigan fan I see this sort of thing happen all the time…against us…in the sport of hockey. Michigan is the (insert SEC power here) when it comes to recruiting 5-star NHL prospects whose draft rights are secured by the time they’re 18, but they haven’t won the NCAA championship in that sport since 1998. The teams they lose to are typically smaller programs with less talented recruiting classes, but they tend to maintain a core of older players who play together longer and aren’t typically distracted by playing for their Under 20 national teams or negotiating for pro contracts on the side. Michigan basically has two years to get the most out of their incoming hockey classes before the top end of them sign their NHL contracts. They never have the cohesion that the championship teams with the older players who are used to playing longer with each other do. Or that Michigan’s 2023 football team (Team 144) did.
Michigan has a bunch of 5 stars on their roster but the recruiting services didn't pay much attention to these player. Don Edwards, Mason Graham, Kenneth Grant, Blake Corum, Colston Loveland, Roman Wilson all would be 5 stars if the recruiting services paid more attention to them. This was the greatest College team ever.
Game plan, coaching and player development. Great video. But here’s a question: which is more often better, a 5* out of high school or a 4* developed with around 1000 snaps in a game? Michigan had nearly nobody transfer out and a huge amount that elected to stay another year instead of going to the draft. What this ultimately meant is your 2nd and 3rd string players were all seasoned veterans as well. So there was little detriment and tons of upside in cycling in line players to stay fresh. The other great thing for these linemen in the draft, high snap count, but far more fresh than a lot of others they’re competing against. Longevity is also taken into account when drafting for a NFL team.
Donovan Edwards was a 5star till he committed to Michigan at the end of the cycle. I suspect some OSU folks are in high places in the recruiting sites.
A dominant defense and running game returned in order to claim a natty. I know it looks odd based on the last 20 years but it was THEE recipe for the first 115 years
@@nmatthew7469Do you realize just about everyone major Michigan staff member for next season was in house last year or had a relation in someway with the Michigan team? It’s not like the whole staff is turning over
Analytics/numbers/stars can't account for coaching, culture, scheme, heart and player development. This UM team is arguably the greatest college football team ever.
Michigan was one of the least penalized teams in the country, with an elite defense, and the best turnover margin. They didn't beat themselves (although they tried to on ST against Bama). Their strength and conditioning program was elite (it's unusual to know the name of the S&C coach but I know Ben Herbert). Their offense was balanced being able to do everything while only exceptional in running the ball and it helped to have a QB who could run at an elite level when needed though that wasn't a regular part of their gameplan. It's a testament to how you can win with a slightly less talented squad.
Stars do not matter when you get to college it's about coaching and player development knowing how to get the best out of your players knowing what to say to motivate them putting them in the best position to be successful and in the right system. And off-season conditioning and workouts are huge in player development as well.
Milroe would have been a RB on Michigan's team and given 20 carries a game at least. He won't play at the next level as a QB, not sure why they've got him there.
All I ask in the future continue making the UM vs OSU great and competitive and win B10 titles and contend for the 12 team CFP consistently and every now and then win a Natty. So far I been seeing the culture with the Michigan vs Ohio State rivalry will remain strong and in the weight room they still have signs of “What are you doing to beat Ohio State”
JJ didn’t receive any offer from OSU. He was actually kind of hurt by it cuz he grew up being a OSU fan and dreamed of playing for them, since he was a kid. Since he didn’t get recruited by OSU, he went to Michigan and made it his mission to have Ohio State regret not recruiting him. Guess you can say they did. 2 years in a row.
@@RedWingsninetyone i see what you mean, but I wouldn’t go as far as calling him a disappointment. Many highly talented players dont reach their full potential until they’re a junior or senior, especially when they’re not technically a starter.
@@danielthornton1633 my key words being "for most of the season." He took a step back in 2023 vs 2022. However, he showed up against Washington and that he still has that spark in him so I expect big things from him in 2024.
@@RedWingsninetyoneEdwards was injured most of the season. UofM didn’t have him listed as healthy until PSU. A lot of his vision problems were due to his lack of reps.
@@kylev.2373 he also played injured in 2022. Fact is he just wasn't the same guy in 2023 and never really showed up until Washington. Like I said, I expect he'll have a big 2024 though.
Lesser stars but more experience. The schools with the stars have much higher turnover. Less experience because they go to the NFL early. Watch how the turnover works for Michigan this year. And Washington.
As a Michigan fan you are correct, they also had one more year of eligiblity because of covid....So much of the michigan team may have been 3 and 4 stars, but they were 22 and 23 years old while Bama was a bunch of 20 and 21 year old 5 stars. that gave michigan men a few extra years to lift weights and get stronger.
JH is best talent evaluator. For example soon as he got Mason Graham. Even though he was mid 4 star. Talk around Mich Mason Graham came in better than most 5 stars. He started as Fresh. Same with Grant. Very athletic look at his tape. It’s crazy the guy was 3 star
A) Some players were criminally under ranked coming out of HS on this team. They should have been and sure as shit played like 5*s. Grants and Graham specifically. B) Sports Radio and First take are always funny when they do some canned “keys to the game” segment. Do you know what the key to every football game ever played is? Turnovers. If you have the wide of a margin it’s hard not to win a lot of games. C) the def yards per game stat….is insane. Just simply dominate. But it is also significantly helped by the new clock rules this year and a Michigan’s offense. A lot of running a lot of motions tick tick tick. The opponents literally have less chances to get yards. That skews things significantly in the long run.
I honestly see a little of Mark Dantonio's best MSU teams in what Michigan did. Don't worry about rankings. Get guys that fit the culture and coach them up. MSU didn't win a national title but did make the playoff and won the Big Ten 3 times. That's by far the most successful run in East Lansing during my life. Although I'm a Spartan I don't hate Michigan. I thought this year's tough, blue collar Michigan team was a joy to watch. _Any_ Big Ten team bringing the national championship back makes the conference as a whole look better.
Shouldn’t of happened cause they never had to play the best team that year. It will never happen again cause now that team won’t miss the playoffs anymore.
The best team who lost to Alabama? You’d have a case if Michigan never played Bama. But they beat Saban who had 6 weeks of prep. Georgia had their chance and lost.
That means recruiting rankings are only one part of the evaluation process. It's not the only determining factor. Some kids can't go to camps and get rated. I'll take the multi sport athlete. He's likely to be underrated because he has no time to do skills camps and 7 on 7 satellite camps
As a Michigan fan, I find this video extremely disrespectful. If you know anything about CFB recruiting politics, you'll see a trend where a kid commits to Michigan and his rating drops, while that same kid will turn around and decommit months later, and then commit to like LSU or Bama, and then his rating jumps up. Michigan has always gotten elite talent, what was holding Michigan back was culture and Don Brown. Michigan was a force in 2016 but Don Brown's refusal to call anything but man press single high safety defenses were the Achilles heel of those teams. But go ahead and keep making content about how the blueblood program with the most wins in CFB history and a top 5 winning% all-time can go about winning a National Championship while it "should not have happened". It's just ignorant.
This whole video is showing how amazing it was that Michigan was able to win it all. Wasn’t disrespectful once. It’s awesome that Michigan was able to beat those teams filled with “5-stars”. It shows that they were much more than what people would think a national championship team would look like.
@noahCFB1 multiple times you talk about how Michigan found success "despite" their lack of 5 star talent. Not once did you talk about the trends I laid out about Michigan's recruits almost invariably getting their ratings dropped after committing to Michigan unlike when they commit to schools like Ohio State, Bama, Georgia, etc... where they tend to get a boost in their ratings instead. You made it sound like this was some sort of anomaly that Michigan made and ignored the entire political elephant in the room about how some brands are just media darlings and others will have to face tue wrath of Disney if they have any success when they weren't supposed to. Look at how ESPN has dragged Michigan's name in the mud every single time they have success. They magnified every single controversy they could and tried to do everything they could to stop Michigan from being successful including pressuring the public into demanding that Michigan be punished before the NCAA even has a chance to formally present Michigan with its findings and for Michigan to defend itself. Why don't you talk about that being why "This never should have happened"? Why don't you talk about how the corrupt forces of CFB tried to come forward and derail Michigan's season week after week? Instead, we're all sitting here talking about how Michigan is some inferior program that didn't even have the horses to compete. Well, when you understand why that narrative exists, you'll understand why I find this video disrespectful.
I think you interpreted the video wrong. I appreciate your opinion, but the whole theme is how Michigan is an anomaly (yes) because past champions have had rosters filled with 5-stars, and Michigan was able to win it without that depth of elite recruiting in terms of stars. Michigan is a blue blood, they are forever going to be one of the top tier programs, but it’s been a trend for years that they won going against the grain. Nothing against Michigan at all, this video is basically praising them. What they did was great, and I hope more teams prove that you don’t need stars to win. (also, this is my first video so I will get better haha. i appreciate you taking the time to watch through it though and give your opinion.)
@noahCFB1 my point is that it's a backhanded compliment. Michigan gets the talent but people act like Michigan is just some poverty program when it comes to recruiting because of a clear agenda by ESPN to start promoting their brand (SEC football) in the mid-2000s after the Big Ten snubbed them on a TV deal. ESPN has had it out for Michigan ever since because was one of the main programs against that TV deal due to stipulations it would place on their scheduling. ESPN's retaliation involved a mass disinformation campaign and now doing everything it can to drag Michigan's name through the mud at every opportunity. Make a video on that one instead of acting like this anomaly wasn't manufactured out of dirty politics.
@noahCFB1 all of that being said, I do appreciate the spotlight for Michigan and your attempt to praise them. I do think that your presentation skills are really good for this being your first video, I just don't like the opinion itself (I'm sure that's obvious 😂😂). Anyways, don't let me dampen your spirits on making more videos because I think you have talent in this department. Keep up the good work 💪💪💪
Sure didn't, nitwit. Michigan rolled over a bunch of nobody teams in their sleep during the first half of the season and all the hard games were in the second half of the season, AFTER the Conner Stallions cheating scandal broke and he got fired. MSU, Iowa, PSU, OSU, Bama, and Washington were all after Stallions' termination. Wake up and smell the coffee my dude.
Well.. I want to add that 5 star ratings means nothing these days... these kids are extra soft... extra moist... Nick Saban already exposed these lil children... whining over "how much you wanna pay me" and requesting Louis Vuitton cleeks... FOH. Ohio state football players were twerking at some bar.... not a "ounce" of "toughness" in their veins. You see Marvin Harrison Jr. sat out the NFL combine because he didn't wanna dirty up his fingernail polish.
