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Last night, VShojo announced that "Amemiya Nazuna" will be graduating. However, given her recent activity on her "Mikeneko" account, this was not surprising.
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@squeaky_art
@squeaky_art 5 месяцев назад
Nazuna's (and Henya's) designer here. It was an absolute joy to have worked with her on her VShojo arc, and while I am sad to see that come to an end, I wish her all the best in her future endeavors. While it may have been short-lived, I'm proud of the work that was put into Nazuna's debut and am thankful for the opportunities that have arisen after that. ꒰ঌ(っ^ω^c)໒꒱🍭
@kyotanaka920
@kyotanaka920 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for the love you gave to both of them! It's sad to see Nazuna go, but her cuteness will endure thanks to your designs! 🎉
@m8onethousand
@m8onethousand 5 месяцев назад
I've not really watched much of Nazuna, but Henya's model is so ridiculously expressive and it looks so damn clean it's pretty insane. Easily in the top 3 vtuber models I've seen.
@AvilioAmici
@AvilioAmici 5 месяцев назад
Oh hey I just wanna say you did an amazing job on their designs, they’re just top tier 🤌
@uxtalzon
@uxtalzon 5 месяцев назад
Your work is so cute :3
@zehellyerfeg1502
@zehellyerfeg1502 5 месяцев назад
I love your design of your works. Great job man
@User_Unknown86
@User_Unknown86 5 месяцев назад
I heard the talent behind Nazuna got a job as a Voice Actor, so it's no surprise she's moving on.
@pridex45
@pridex45 5 месяцев назад
It's true. She was more focused on her Mikeneko personality, which eventually got signed onto a voice acting vtuber agency and was given the name Koito Ria. Her first major role is in an upcoming isekai anime, in which I'll be shortening the name of, Isekai no Yu.
@griffca4814
@griffca4814 5 месяцев назад
Its not just voice acting it's job in a full service production company.
@kouhai1889
@kouhai1889 5 месяцев назад
​@@pridex45 Wait...Nazuna is Mikeneko? MY GOD HOW DID I NOT ASSOCIATE IT BEFORE
@ThaTyphon
@ThaTyphon 5 месяцев назад
@@kouhai1889 Bruh
@AccountInactive
@AccountInactive 5 месяцев назад
​@@kouhai1889Wait til you find out about Rushia
@Rembreiker_lychec9257
@Rembreiker_lychec9257 5 месяцев назад
To be honest, I forgot that Nazuna was part of VShojo in the first place. But I'm glad that she'll be continuing as an independent. But as for Mika, I nearly cried during her graduation.
@aPopcap
@aPopcap 5 месяцев назад
This is exactly the same comment as on Khyo's video on the same topic.. EXACT same punctuation just 8 hours ago..
@nguyenho5859
@nguyenho5859 5 месяцев назад
You should be happy for Mika, she is out of the hell pit now
@chiizuu752
@chiizuu752 5 месяцев назад
​@@aPopcapbrody wants them internet points
@avioracrown6967
@avioracrown6967 5 месяцев назад
​@@nguyenho5859sad how niji become a company like this I really miss old times niji And niji id management is goat af, they're really destroying themselves
@GoldRichness
@GoldRichness 5 месяцев назад
@@aPopcap and is that a problem? Unless you’re just like the nijifans who are 1. Commies 2. Against fair use 3. Hypocrites in the sense that they “bash” him for clickbaiting when there are OTHER CONTENT CREATORS who clickbait just as much as him if not worse
@anewfuture
@anewfuture 5 месяцев назад
This is about as peaceful as graduations get. She only joined in the first place because she left her previous job unexpectedly, and still wanted to be part of something. She seems to be doing very well now, and Vshojo's JP branch seems abandoned anyway, so, no reason to stick around.
@irkanorphyn
@irkanorphyn 5 месяцев назад
After niji, I think I'll just be indie
@martuuk8964
@martuuk8964 5 месяцев назад
VShojo is a bad place for JP talents. Ironmouse and Froot are toxic behind the scenes and run it like a mean girl clique. Ironmouse = iron fist. They despise girls that they feel are doing better than them or “climbing too fast.” There is a reason 3 very popular girls with similar chill vibes left at the same time. Henya’s EN popularity is tolerated because they understand the backlash that would occur if she was openly and brazenly shit-tested by, for example, Froot on Twitter, in the way that Silvervale was. I’m glad Nazuna didn’t get too involved. Kson is tolerated because she caters almost exclusively to JP and only interjects English explanations of what she’s doing or saying VERY rarely, so she’s not real competition for IM or Froot.
@ghekor
@ghekor 5 месяцев назад
@@martuuk8964 Ive seen some bullshit rrats on 4ch, but yours takes the cake you make some of those schizos look sane and thats an accomplishment.
@s.o.t_the_real
@s.o.t_the_real 5 месяцев назад
@@martuuk8964 whats bro cooking?!?!?!
@dave3429
@dave3429 5 месяцев назад
@@s.o.t_the_real Bro is right sadly :(
@TheDoctorofOdoIsland
@TheDoctorofOdoIsland 5 месяцев назад
Hajime is so non-existent rev straight up called her "Syndsnap's model" 😭
@NightmareZV
@NightmareZV 5 месяцев назад
NGL, I heard something about it, but I don't think I even knew the name was "Hajime" lmao
@RevanSigma
@RevanSigma 5 месяцев назад
Being a Hajime fan is truly to live in a desert. Thank goodness I found Sydsnaps secret
@richardryley3660
@richardryley3660 5 месяцев назад
Who?
@cobaltprime9467
@cobaltprime9467 5 месяцев назад
@@RevanSigmathe worst kept secret ever
@acmenipponair
@acmenipponair 5 месяцев назад
@@RevanSigmaWell, she is I guess really busy... Many people hope that her marriage with Gigguk will be really fruitful ;)
@Jonathan_Collins
@Jonathan_Collins 5 месяцев назад
It was bound to happen to Nazuna. With her rise as Mineneko, she was going to be leaving eventually.
@zerosorigin8387
@zerosorigin8387 5 месяцев назад
Wait are they the same person?
@pandora3309
@pandora3309 5 месяцев назад
@@zerosorigin8387 if you're being serious, then yes, they're the same person.
@Shendue
@Shendue 5 месяцев назад
@@zerosorigin8387 I'm surprised some people still don't know. I guess a lot of people just watch streams and not videos about vtubers. You can literally look up a name of a vtuber in RU-vid and be prompted to all their other identities.
@Banana-cc5rx
@Banana-cc5rx 5 месяцев назад
@@zerosorigin8387 Mikeneko is her personal account. I think her personal account is doing better due to Nazuna being a twitch based vtuber, her not being able to speak english barely makes it very hard for her to build a stable fanbase
@zir456
@zir456 5 месяцев назад
​@@Banana-cc5rx I'm pretty sure Mikeneko already had huge Fanbase which follow Her from one to another even before becoming Nazuna so It isn't like She gonna build from zero
@pond9875
@pond9875 5 месяцев назад
Becoming a VA and singer, i wish best of luck for her and hope everything goes well.
@clarehidalgo
@clarehidalgo 5 месяцев назад
She was a singer before being an Utaite, which is how she knew Mafumafu to begin with
@lord_boneman
@lord_boneman 5 месяцев назад
If her work is gonna be in the same league and above Sodalicious, looks like we got a lot to look forward to.
@lord_boneman
@lord_boneman 5 месяцев назад
Inevitable as it was, at the very least it’s peaceful and seems there’s no bad blood. Also glad to see Henya was correct where even VShojo original talents will keep their IPs. Also thank you to Mikeneko/Nazuna for Sodalicious.
@joeribaars5481
@joeribaars5481 5 месяцев назад
and with how chill Vshojo is they might still collab with Vshojo talent
@AO968
@AO968 5 месяцев назад
@@joeribaars5481 As a matter of fact, both Henya and Nazuna expressed interest in a collab, which the latter tentatively set for August. Not sure if that date is still going on, though.
@ACiruka
@ACiruka 5 месяцев назад
She is no longer streams as Nazuna. She chooses to live as Mikeneko.
@wolffang489
@wolffang489 5 месяцев назад
There really isn't much value in the company keeping the IP. For the big ones it helps with retention because the talent can't just build up a fanbase and leave as easily but it's been proven that they can't reuse the IP with a different talent anyways.
@SubliminaIMessages
@SubliminaIMessages 5 месяцев назад
Vshojo really did nothing with Nazuna and a pink haired cat girl who sounds just like her was getting far more traction anyway. It was honestly a matter of time when she bounced, although it’s disappointing to see Vshojo JP not come to fruition
@kinglightning5256
@kinglightning5256 5 месяцев назад
Yeah as of right now i see no jp vtubers who would be willing to join vshojo and if someone says mirei she really enjoying herself as an indie and I don't see her streaming on Twitch manly.
@lostnemesis
@lostnemesis 5 месяцев назад
Yeah they only care about people that speak English and well at that soooo they're like the opposite of niji 😂
@nujevad28
@nujevad28 5 месяцев назад
What do you expect Vshojo to do? She pretty much abandoned the character when Mikeneko started to build steam, so all the promotion in the world won't do anything if the talent doesn't want to do it anymore.
@User_Unknown86
@User_Unknown86 5 месяцев назад
I don't think it's the end of Vshojo JP just because one person left. Kson is still heading it, and they have plenty of opportunities to bring on more talent.
@ectothermic
@ectothermic 5 месяцев назад
I like that this is framing Vshojo as the bad guy for allowing her to make choices and prioritise her other project. Amazing job. Kson was brought on because she's revolutionary and NEXT was going to be Vshojo JP, she brought Nazuna and Henya with her for that. If anything I'm glad Vshojo just lets people make the decisions they want, you won't see that out of Niji, they'd probably kill you first like they tried Selen. VShojo is not an idol group, they are not Hololive or Nijisanji they're a talent agency, and their talent can do whatever they want, they just get support for big projects.
@Paopao621
@Paopao621 5 месяцев назад
This is the nicest graduation ever, no drama, not nothing. Also w for vshojo for letting her keep that nazuna persona.
@kevinnio
@kevinnio 5 месяцев назад
Mikeneko is incursioning in voice acting. She joined voiceore and ponycanyon. Makes sense she finishes her contract with Vshojo since she has other priorities now.
@EndoftheBeginning17
@EndoftheBeginning17 5 месяцев назад
Exactly she could keep this one but then she'd probably feel like she's juggling. With her Mikeneko model and Nazuna model she can always come back if she actually has to, though I doubt she wil What Vshojo needs is to go to market and provide resourcees to VTubers and small time streamers that can entertain.
@nanotsuki
@nanotsuki 5 месяцев назад
that's always what's confusing to me. She is in Vshoujo, but her mikeneko is alive, yet she is listed in VoiceOre as Koito Ria (have a few of good girls on there, check them out. I personally reccomend Sakuma Sui as her gameplay make use of her voice acting which is really fun. Oh and Uto is listed there too)
@Steve-of3er
@Steve-of3er 5 месяцев назад
@@nanotsuki her new contract as a voice actress along with her indie career as Mikeneko are probably why she's choosing to mutually end her contract with VShojo. trying to balance all three at once is probably really difficult, and she has a wider following on her Mikeneko account either way, so it's not like she's going back to zero. she was an indie prior to her stint in the Vtuber talent agencies, so she'll just be returning to her roots, as it were. though I wish her all the best in her career as a voice actress. I hope I can find a way to watch her material.
@Ojisan642
@Ojisan642 5 месяцев назад
Vshojo never had a strong plan to expand into JP. Having Kson and Nazuna doesn’t really make a JP presence since Kson streams mostly in English, as does Henya. So there was no real way for Nazuna to collab with the rest of the company and appeal to their EN audiences.
@arionofotherworld
@arionofotherworld 5 месяцев назад
No bad blood, no sniping, if anything it reflects well on VShojo and Nazuna.
@mammarihsan2716
@mammarihsan2716 4 месяца назад
Well, well, well.... This has aged like a milk... or a fine wine
@erikho6936
@erikho6936 3 месяца назад
> leaves job > immediately gets outed as a cheater and manipulator
@kinglightning5256
@kinglightning5256 5 месяцев назад
Yeah this graduation was bound to happen with nazuna being more as mikeneko. Also finally people can stop doubting the vshojo talents when they said when they vshojo let's them everything. Good graduation no drama now wondering what will vshojo do on the jp i see no jp vtubers who would be willing to join vshojo. As for 2024 for vshojo people already speculate selen or mika will join them
@kevinnio
@kevinnio 5 месяцев назад
If the company owns the IP and then forfeits it that's cool, but somehow I doubt they owned it in the first place. Since vshoujo only takes stablished talents, most likely Mikeneko owned Nazuna from the beginning.
@BrotherHood-xh9sg
@BrotherHood-xh9sg 5 месяцев назад
I mean, it has always been the streamers that cause problems in VShoujo, not management. I think you're getting VShoujo confused with Nijisanji. That's the VTubber company that has a management problem and where people say that is the case.
@AwsOm3Fac3
@AwsOm3Fac3 5 месяцев назад
Nah fuck vshojo I hope they go under. Both niji and vs are absolute trash and Selen wouldn’t be treated any better there
@EndoftheBeginning17
@EndoftheBeginning17 5 месяцев назад
@@kevinnio Per Kson Vshojo comissioned the IP, so I think it was something of a signing bonus. Where everything went wrong for Nazuna was that she signed an exclusivity deal with Twitch, she had originally meant to stream mostly on RU-vid and only a little on Twitch same as Kson does but that exclusivity deal killed that, had she streamed mostly on RU-vid right from the get go she probably would have hit a million subs by the time she joined Voice Ore
@JamesP7
@JamesP7 5 месяцев назад
As someone else mentioned, no one’s really ever blamed the management for any of the Vshojo blunders (except that one justified time a certain individual in cybersecurity kept being an idiot during the Nux Taku debacle). It’s always been the talents that either initiate drama themselves or “are at fault” for being harassed for something they did.
@KarmaWalker
@KarmaWalker 5 месяцев назад
Two other things might be worth mentioning. One. The implication was Nazuna and Kson joining was that they'd be part of a "Vshojo JP" push that would include more members than just her and Kson. Right away, however, there weren't any other JP talents, Henya came MUCH later, and even now, Kson and Henya are bilingual. Nazuna is not. This huge communication barrier might leave one to feel a bit alienated. Two. In terms of popularity, RU-vid is much more popular in Japan than Twitch is, and JP independents would have a hell of a time starting up there compared to RU-vid. Why she didn't do what Kson did and just stream wherever she wants to? Maybe there was some platform exclusivity in her contract, requiring her to be Nazuna on Twitch, and allowing her to remain Mikeneko on RU-vid. I don't know. But I could definitely see it as a factor, in either case.
@bennitori4
@bennitori4 5 месяцев назад
I never understood why VShoujo was Twitch exclusive. I know the founders have some deep ties with Twitch. But not even having simulcasting seemed like an odd business choice to me.
@ramielle300
@ramielle300 5 месяцев назад
The VShojo CEO said there's no restriction from their side where Nazuna could stream. It's very likely Nazuna signed an exclusive agreement with Twitch (for 1 year, July 2022 to July 2023), as in August 2023 Nazuna pretty much halted her Twitch activities.
@Simba65315
@Simba65315 5 месяцев назад
@@bennitori4 Twitch only allowed their partners to simulcast to RU-vid recently, only within the past couple of months.
@MrPoogly
@MrPoogly 5 месяцев назад
And because she was part of vshojo this is a non issue. Allowing talent to move on without excessive and needless drama is a good thing.
@Romanthony2007
@Romanthony2007 5 месяцев назад
I sometimes forget, that she was apart of Vshojo since she barely interacted with the other girls, but then again she is part of the JP branch Sad to see it, but at the same time this is why I prefer Vshojo because she gets to keep all the IP and just "Move onto her next journey" Ill always respect Vshojo for giving respect to there talent and not just saying "No that character is now Donzo"
@ceshmate1953
@ceshmate1953 5 месяцев назад
Vshojo is barely a real company. More ike a group of vtuber forming a group. Don't talk about it like the 'company' actually makes decisions.
@gymbmymb3465
@gymbmymb3465 5 месяцев назад
@@ceshmate1953 Company, LLC, union, who cares. You clearly have a point but you're not spitting it out so get on with it.
@noire1001
@noire1001 5 месяцев назад
As I understand it they have to pay for their own models, so its only right they get to keep them.
@YuudachiPois
@YuudachiPois 5 месяцев назад
@@ceshmate1953 of course it's a real company, its just not a company that owns the vtubers persona, model and doesn't invest anywhere near as much money into them due to that. All they do is mostly just give support at least assume, aka mostly free to do whatever want instead of a company being more in control of them. (which if they invest lots into them("training", events, vtuber models, time in their studio(at least holo live) and associated studio staff work etc), kinda to be expected they be more involved in what they(vtuber) do/how they do it)
@TheInnocentRabbitofCaerbannog
@TheInnocentRabbitofCaerbannog 5 месяцев назад
I hope she adapts the nazuna ip into lore or whatever It was a good model
@ectothermic
@ectothermic 5 месяцев назад
Slow news day, she's been focusing on Mikeneko and wasn't really using Nazuna at all. Not a big deal. I hope she gets the help she needs for that parasocial need for validation but otherwise godspeed, little lady. o7
@GameFuMaster
@GameFuMaster 5 месяцев назад
yeah, it was really dumb for her to create mikeneko, and join vshojo, then later on join voice-ore as mikeneko. The girl really has decision making skill issues.
@ectothermic
@ectothermic 5 месяцев назад
@@GameFuMaster Yeah it's pretty chronic but it's not a new thing at all, even as Rushia she was like this. She has mellowed down since then but it's still like a permanent manic episode sometimes.
@lostnemesis
@lostnemesis 5 месяцев назад
I think you can blame the leaving more on she was just looking for a lifeline at that time in her life and they served the purpose, that's really the whole reason she joined the company in the first place was she was looking for a lifeline and they were the ones who had open arms at the time, They were her raft in the storm. Now if she keeps it up or royally messes up everything then we have a conversation again when I will concede any points on.
@ectothermic
@ectothermic 5 месяцев назад
@@lostnemesis I mean no matter what happens she's still friends with Kson, that's a very good ally to have. She's found her footing now, hopefully she keeps it.
@laughingbot.
@laughingbot. 5 месяцев назад
@@GameFuMaster I don't know man, I think it is quite the opposite this time really. She signed with Voice Ore and I read with Ponycanyon also but I can't get a reliable source for this, both of which focus on voice acting industry, she then secured a role (not sure if it's a big role or not) in an isekai anime that will be aired next year. For the first time since being terminated from Hololive, I think she knows what she is doing and what direction she is heading for the future.
@-Raylight
@-Raylight 5 месяцев назад
Wish all the best for Nazuna, Mikeneko! She decided to move forward for her career, hopefully she'll have success as seiyuu!
@timewizardphil
@timewizardphil 5 месяцев назад
Nazuna made a lot of sense to me at first. With her being terminated for a contract violation I honestly doubted she’d be able to cut her way with any Japanese corporations given the culture there, so Vshoujo seemed like the perfect support net for her at the time. Unfortunately VShoujo JP never coalesced into anything due to the only other associated talents being able to speak English for the company’s already existing English speaking audience leaving it on her alone to try and build a JP exclusive audience. And surprisingly she proved she could find career success in Japan still despite her history, which allowed her to stand more independently in Vtubing. Didn’t think it would turn out this way, but regardless I hope for the best for her going forward.
@neshura
@neshura 5 месяцев назад
Could be she got the VA role in part due to a fan, if Japan's VA industry is somewhat similar to the west knowing a guy is 70% of getting a role.
@timewizardphil
@timewizardphil 5 месяцев назад
@@neshura yeah. I can definitely see how her good connections might have went a long way given her circumstances.
@ElliotKeaton
@ElliotKeaton 5 месяцев назад
There's also the issue of Nazuna streaming exclusively on Twitch. There's a reason Kson only uses it for English streams.
@juances
@juances 5 месяцев назад
The situation always seemed strange, you'd expect that part of her contract for Vshojo would include not streaming with her other account or something like that because this was bound to happen, but hey they at least deserve some recognition for not ending the contract in a public drama.
@noidolsnolife6373
@noidolsnolife6373 5 месяцев назад
vshojo is a talent first agency that only makes their money from merch. they had nothing to lose by letting her stream as both nazuna and mikeneko
@DaShikuXI
@DaShikuXI 5 месяцев назад
Vshojo basically just doesn't care. Like KSon for example barely does any vtubing anymore. It's just the way the company is set up.
@ghekor
@ghekor 5 месяцев назад
@@DaShikuXI She still streams, just does more IRL stuff which they dont care about.. i mean look at Hime , shes a meme hire end of the day and streams like 1-2 times a year.
@realQuestion
@realQuestion 5 месяцев назад
No one signs a contract that says "you're not allowed to stream at all unless it's for us"-that'd be insane
@noidolsnolife6373
@noidolsnolife6373 5 месяцев назад
@@realQuestion That’s how the corporate vtubing world works. Sincerely, a former corporate talent manager
@BenjaminSteber
@BenjaminSteber 5 месяцев назад
Vshojo has been very good at getting talent to get a boost and then move on to their own creativity. If that's the position they want in the space, more power to them.
@aaa1e2r3
@aaa1e2r3 5 месяцев назад
I'll be honest, I was not aware of Nazuna before this, I thought that Rushia had just gone straight to Mikeneko.
@Banana-cc5rx
@Banana-cc5rx 5 месяцев назад
Mikeneko is her personal account. She went back to it after Rushia ended for awhile, then signed with Vshoujo as Nazuna.
@burn_entertainment
@burn_entertainment 5 месяцев назад
everything is inevitable at some point
@creativename2567
@creativename2567 5 месяцев назад
everything is evitable at some point
@prophetsparadise4463
@prophetsparadise4463 5 месяцев назад
She pushed her own content hard, skimped on the Vshojo parts, and got the keep all the assets? She did em dirty! 😂 Seriously though, the language barrier alone makes collabs and the like a lot to deal with anyway. I can't blame her for doing her thing
@kevinnio
@kevinnio 5 месяцев назад
Somehow I doubt Vshojo owned Nazuna's IP. Vshoujo only takes stablished talents, so they have plenty of resources to design their own character and lore, which I'm willing to bet is what Vshojo promotes.
@garybicknell2135
@garybicknell2135 5 месяцев назад
She may have done em dirty by skimping on the Vshojo part as that depends on the contract but I doubt it. As for the IP, I remember watching someone put together the lore & model for an agency that looked suspiciously like Hime Hajime so I'd assume the IP and model were 100% hers (that example might also lend credence to the activity part not being too much in the contract).
@tonygalvan2279
@tonygalvan2279 5 месяцев назад
If I had a nickel everytime I buy a nendoroid of this girls vtuber persona and then she graduates I would have two, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice
@TamagoSoup
@TamagoSoup 5 месяцев назад
Is it going to continue to production like with Rushia's? Id hate to lose the chance to get that Nendoroid, her angel design is super cute.
@Ms666slayer
@Ms666slayer 5 месяцев назад
@@TamagoSoup Yeah like is not like Nazuna doesn't exist anymore she's only not part of Vshojo anymore.
@raderelcaroman1403
@raderelcaroman1403 5 месяцев назад
so as long as mikeneko doesn't release a nendoroid she'll be succeful lol
@AveragePunEnjoyer
@AveragePunEnjoyer 5 месяцев назад
Hey at least you still have two cute anime figurines you can display on your shelf forever. It could've been worse. You could've bought the Rushia engagement ring instead 😂
@tonygalvan2279
@tonygalvan2279 5 месяцев назад
@@TamagoSoup probabl because they already made the model and the preorders are done it woudl be a huge loss of money if they do. but I dunno why the picked the most unstable of the vshojo girls nazuna has always been a loose canon as a Vtuber. I wuold have picked zen or henya for the next nendo
@l4w1nc0l7
@l4w1nc0l7 5 месяцев назад
sad to see her go, she was the hype of vshojo, but lets be honest, the interest is clear difference, its sad, but accepted, i only wish her good fortune on her new future projects ❤
@Aquas1998
@Aquas1998 5 месяцев назад
I’m more directed towards the girl behind Nazuna and Mikeneko, knowing she’s not, mentally sound and frail in tough choices. I know full well Kson knows that girl, I just hope she can learn from her mistakes.
@GrarrlbrownVT
@GrarrlbrownVT 5 месяцев назад
Whenever I see Nazuna (And Hajime) I just quote the Pokeawesome Pikachu "WHAT DO YOU EVEN DO?!"
@KhronicD
@KhronicD 5 месяцев назад
Still, that's one of the best things about Vshojo. They are very open for their members to not really be massive streamers. It's a more open business model that is honestly better for everyone involved, especially the fans.
@snurf7593
@snurf7593 5 месяцев назад
People over-analyzing this in the comments is too funny 😂
@FantasiephilosophRaku
@FantasiephilosophRaku 5 месяцев назад
The problem were the fans (especially Mafumafus fans, her own were a minority, stop spreading misinformation, she had no problems with her fans the entire time she was Rushia in Cover, it had nothing to do with her fans or her GFE, heck the same but less severe drama happened to Suisei who had neither of those) going nuts to a life threathening degree (dozens of death threats, damaged merch and a damaged bus with her face on it, which implies pretty much that they wanted to physically harm her). The NDA break for sure is a big deal, however I dont think Holo was completely honest either, especially when they stated in their termination statement that they got nonexistent reputational damage (she was mostly the reason along with other members why they got one in the first place), because of her which was a big lie. Its honestly hard for me to believe that a 2, 7 years associated talent reach and vent out to outside help instead towards her colleagues and company, if there wasnt any big problems behind the scenes in Cover, that could explain this lack of trust. Its easy to say she is mentally ill to absolve Cover from any blame (what many people forget is, that we dont know the vtubers personnaly, just because Rushia was very open with her mental struggles doesnt mean the other talents doesnt have issues, which they dont show on screen however. According (if this Korekore is to be believed) she also reached out to him about bullying going on within the company, which is also worth mentioning). So while I have no problem of her firing but the way Cover acted was very hostile, to a point they supported a cyberbullying campaign against Rushia with that (which hasnt stopped), their unwilingness to admit their own mistakes by basically stating they did nothing wrong (unlike Rushia) and that Mike had to be incredibly vague doesnt sit right with me either. If Cover really thinks they did everything right in that situation then they could have let her speak out freely about why she did what she did, what happened behind the scenes etc. but instead she could only say this, which pretty much implies legal pressure. We saw what happened in the Zaion situation, not everything is black and wite.
@fadlanfadilah1171
@fadlanfadilah1171 5 месяцев назад
"vent out to outside help instead towards her colleagues and company" This korekore guy was her close friend, I vaguely remember she said she trusted this guy. You don't normally go and vent to your colleagues or company, she has a friend, and talked to him about her worries, she just picked the wrong friend to talk to. if you can find the clip, this korekore guy said "im not supposed to share this,," but he talked about it in his stream anyway, I also remember him sharing a pic of her bedroom or something.
@FantasiephilosophRaku
@FantasiephilosophRaku 5 месяцев назад
​​@@fadlanfadilah1171I also remember this and I would agree if this was a normal job but this is a vtubing-company were the vtubers are presented as great friends and where the management cares about the talents, so therefore it really puts myself in question she vent to Korekore (who didnt had contact with her for a very long time but again she knew him so therefore trust is still there, which he sadly used for selfish gain) instead of her genmates who supposedly are close to each other or to management that supposedly cares about their talents and she had contact with more, it implies for me there were bigger problems behind the scenes (like bullying, having arguments, neglection etc.) that could also be a problem within Cover. Its obvious (atleast for me) when someone after such a long association would trust their feelings to a friend who she had not contacted for a very long time instead to genmates and the company she was associated with for over 2 years, that this was not only a Rushia problem but a problem within Cover too and her being desperate to get help from people she knew implies that, from what I remember Korekore helped her before and many others, so based on what he did in the past it would make sense Rushia asked him for help.
@tommy.eklund
@tommy.eklund 5 месяцев назад
Just yesterday I remembered Nazuna even existed and started I to wonder what happened.. Her announcement was so hyped back then
@Lysander45
@Lysander45 5 месяцев назад
I think, where the Kson misunderstanding is concerned, is that when Kson was announced to be joining Vshojo they said she would be helping them establish their Japan-based streamers. That implies a degree of hands-on managerial activity, but it turns out she is more of a mascot for Vshojo within the country.
@Archdornan9001
@Archdornan9001 5 месяцев назад
Uto Amatsuka (aka Amelia Watsons vtuber Sister) joined Voice Ore recently too
@marycatgirlnya
@marycatgirlnya 5 месяцев назад
I'ts sad to see, but im glad she can graduate this time and is able to pursue her hobbies and va career with no drama, proud of her!!!! ❤
@thisisobviouslybait
@thisisobviouslybait 5 месяцев назад
The account has remained stable unlike her during that entire time frame.
@hibiki9380
@hibiki9380 5 месяцев назад
Damn, shots fired. 🤭
@MrImmortal709
@MrImmortal709 5 месяцев назад
The writing for Nazuna leaving was on the walls for months since she was more active on her old account a lot more than on Nazuna, good for her, being in VJ was what she needed at that time, now it is time to move on and grow bigger again.
@VBandit47
@VBandit47 4 месяца назад
She didn't even TRY to be Nazuna, lmao.
@C.K.Productions
@C.K.Productions 5 месяцев назад
I really liked her model, I hope she continues to use it.
@kingnewcomer2029
@kingnewcomer2029 5 месяцев назад
It’s honestly not that surprising Nazuna’s graduating very soon especially considering how inactive she’s been since her debut at VShojo. And while it is sad to see her go especially this quickly, at the same time I totally understand, and respect her decision of graduating VShojo, and moving forward with her new career as an independent VTuber. I wish Mikeneko nothing but the best of luck! 🙏 Thank you, Nazuna-chan! ❤️
@EndoftheBeginning17
@EndoftheBeginning17 5 месяцев назад
I see some people in comments stating things which to me are adjacent to the idea of group loyalty. Nazuna being nazuna is a business decision, her joining Vshojo is a business decision, and her leaving is also a business decision. She is currently a VA and it is likely that her time as a VA would eliminate any chane for her to stream, except for when she is not in the studio as a VA. Let's not think it was any other decision. By the way this applies to everyone else, be it Matara, Kuro, Geega, or Henya. They all made business decisions regarding joining Vshojo and will eventually make one to leave it as well, sometime down the line.
@dohickey7184
@dohickey7184 5 месяцев назад
I promise this isn't to sound cruel or heartless, but I'm starting to get to the point where I don't really feel much when these happen with her anymore just because it happens so often lmao
@ubcroel4022
@ubcroel4022 5 месяцев назад
She's annoying as hell, unfortunate she did good as Rushia.
@silbury2325
@silbury2325 5 месяцев назад
Did we watch the same video?
@ramielle300
@ramielle300 5 месяцев назад
Her other persona has been a lot more successful so perhaps it's not too surprising. A voice acting gig in anime, a record label and CCV 50-100% higher than on Nazuna. It would probably have been better for her to stay as an inactive member of VShojo like Hajime though.
@raviedavieu
@raviedavieu 4 месяца назад
@@ubcroel4022 Okay we know it's cool of you to be praying on her downfall just keep on hating mate
@KamenIvvy
@KamenIvvy 4 месяца назад
I dont see anything negative here She just got a better job
@RollingDodge
@RollingDodge 5 месяцев назад
I hope that she finds success in her next endeavors and I wonder what roles that she will get.
@nekolivegaming
@nekolivegaming 5 месяцев назад
Not surprised to see her move on. Been watching a lot on her Personal Channel, and it was pretty clear that she was looking for an Independent career and when she also joined those two other Agencies it was pretty clear when the announcement came that it was her own decision and that's she's going indie. Looking forward to more streams from Mikeneko and gonna be fun to see what she decides to do with her Nazuna model
@tereninsecundus6084
@tereninsecundus6084 5 месяцев назад
I keep forgetting Nazuna is Rushia, even more that she was in Vshojo to begin with - she never co-operated with the Vshojo talents that I see daily as they stream in English, Matara, Zentreya, Henya (counts as she's bi-lingual) Ironmouse and so on. This is the best way things can end really. No real drama, she keeps her stuff, and indirectly Vshojo simply get's a W - peaceful split and her assets are indeed hers. Indirectly, Niji (and every other agency that does this) takes another L from this, every time they boot someone and take away their models and names.
@Gyrator
@Gyrator 5 месяцев назад
New model fusing elements from Nazuna with Mikeneko.
@spectre9340
@spectre9340 5 месяцев назад
oh this is crazy. I was just talking about her to my friends who were interested in Vtubing. Cos she's a rare case of someone who could happily stream as an Indie and as a corpo Vtuber. I'm glad she got the opportunities she got I suppose. She didn't deserve what happened when she was Rushia.
@TheHollowjoint
@TheHollowjoint 5 месяцев назад
Nazuna always felt temporary to me. Vshojo was there when she needed help and now she's moving her career in a different direction.
@Rickbane01
@Rickbane01 5 месяцев назад
Vshojo treats their vtuber company as a talent agency so they don't have graduations they just end contracts.
@burnttoast.2017
@burnttoast.2017 5 месяцев назад
Makes sense, she just plays as mikoneko now right.
@dylives7667
@dylives7667 5 месяцев назад
Took the words right out my mouth. Been saying that ever since the signs appeared.
@samm.8052
@samm.8052 5 месяцев назад
I wish the best for her. I will always know her as Rushia, even though I wasn't a die-hard fan, and I haven't kept up with her recent endeavors. I hope she finds success staying independent, because it's my personal opinion that she'd be better suited for it.
@doorknob7420
@doorknob7420 5 месяцев назад
my fellow americans a second vtuber has hit the world trade center
@Cymes
@Cymes 5 месяцев назад
I clicked expecting drama - was pleasantly surprised at how civil it was on both talent and the agency sides.
@liladoodle
@liladoodle 5 месяцев назад
It's sad to see Nazuna go, but as the saying goes: 'Death is a part of life'. What's got me more worried is Selen. She says she's in Hospital after an accident, but after what happened with Gundo & Zaion a while back, I have a fear that she's been stealth suspended.
@SuddenlyIndebt
@SuddenlyIndebt 5 месяцев назад
You failed to mention that Mikeneko has just recently joined the very important music label PonyCanyon which is a huge deal as alot of major artists such as Kana Hanazawa are apart of. Not even members of Hololive could get this type of contract. In fact her Vshojo graduation came coincidentally shortly after she announced this. Also it seems you may have some misinformation about Voice-ore They are not a musical focused company but a voice acting company. Recently Mikeneko has landed a major role in an upcoming isekai anime. It's safe to say Mikeneko has had alot of very recent success through her own efforts.
@Kaimax61
@Kaimax61 5 месяцев назад
"Not even members of Hololive could get this type of contract." Underplaying as heck, when No one on that side is trying to be a voice actor. "upcoming isekai anime" which is gonna flop hard "t's safe to say Mikeneko has had alot of very recent success through her own efforts." copium
@grapicusdrinktus
@grapicusdrinktus 5 месяцев назад
Yeah, I'm gonna have to brush up my editing skills to replace her with an AI since I wanted to see that isekai.
@SuddenlyIndebt
@SuddenlyIndebt 5 месяцев назад
@@Kaimax61maybe learn to read. I'm talking about Ponycanyon
@NotVoBaron
@NotVoBaron 5 месяцев назад
​@@Kaimax61jesus the anti comments seething about someone's success is ridiculous. It must be morning in Jakarta
@ONIGIRIKINGU
@ONIGIRIKINGU 4 месяца назад
Im sorry but majority of hololive members could easily get jobs at VA company or be a professional singer. They just cant cause of their contract. Mikeneko just got lucky that she is gonna voice in a failing anime. Amazing VA talents like Marine, fubuki, Mio are popular raido hosts and small VA when they are not doing their streams and going pro can remove them from the cover contract
@sinisterisrandom8537
@sinisterisrandom8537 5 месяцев назад
Well, at least she owns her model and stuff. So there's something positive out of it.
@Lux_Tizer
@Lux_Tizer 5 месяцев назад
The only thing that im unhappy about with the graduation is we wont get to know the lore that was for nazuna's character. At least i was interested in seeing where it was gonna go.
@OdaSwifteye
@OdaSwifteye 5 месяцев назад
Vshojo was literally the rebound girlfriend.
@houstoncox3070
@houstoncox3070 5 месяцев назад
At least they're letting her keep her identity and stuff, hope for the best for her
@matteotorelli6497
@matteotorelli6497 5 месяцев назад
Rushia/Nazuna/Mikeneko went through a lot, she deserves better
@M4TTYN
@M4TTYN 5 месяцев назад
Not even shocked tbh. the design is too cute to pass up hope they can use it as mike if possible to ah.... might buy any merch left on vshojo's website cause god the design is heckin cute!!!
@pensmith
@pensmith 5 месяцев назад
I wish her the best.
@Raxerm
@Raxerm 5 месяцев назад
VShojo is the most based Vtuber agency.
@KamenIvvy
@KamenIvvy 4 месяца назад
So Mikeneko ended up ruling over Rushia and Nazuna
@KamiJoJo
@KamiJoJo 5 месяцев назад
It's funny how I still remember Hime Hajime by her distinct and not so subtle design but I had no idea Sydsnap was the one that gave life to her VTuber model, quite fitting given their personalities too.
@HighKingRoku
@HighKingRoku 5 месяцев назад
Ooooohhhh ok I remember her joining Vshojo now.
@Compa_Doom
@Compa_Doom 5 месяцев назад
yeah it wasn't a surprise she is leaving. I didn't keep up with nazuna too much but seeing the constant disappearance I figured she was off doing her own thing. (not just vtuber own thing but just other stuff outside of nazuna. But wish her the best of luck in the road she decides to travel on
@squintyboi6789
@squintyboi6789 4 месяца назад
i can hear the tears of soju
@drgojira6044
@drgojira6044 5 месяцев назад
here we go again
@japzone
@japzone 5 месяцев назад
Not surprised since Nazuna has been busy with her other persona, and seemed to be going all in with going Pro using that persona. I would've been surprised if she could keep up the Nazuna persona while working on all that stuff.
@innocentbanana2-ui1xm
@innocentbanana2-ui1xm 5 месяцев назад
She really lives a harsh life man. From Rushia to mikeneko, then to nazuna and back to mikeneko. In general, I really wish she finds a peaceful point in life where she could just stream and work on what she loves. Life is really ruthless.
@user-qh6sg1dp1o
@user-qh6sg1dp1o 5 месяцев назад
Surely nothing will go wrong. Good luck to her, I guess.
@whispersalone6673
@whispersalone6673 5 месяцев назад
It's a very positive end. Very mutual and up-beat.
@ClawManV3
@ClawManV3 5 месяцев назад
Ah, I was wondering why she stopped using Nazuna and started using Mikeneko for everything. Not too surprising. I have to wonder, though, why create the whole Nazuna character in the first place? She could've just as easily joined VShojo as Mikeneko, and now that Nazuna's contract is done, she still gets to keep the IP, so what's going to happen to Nazuna now? Will it be shelved and fated to collect dust, never to be seen again? I figured that if one day Nazuna ever left VShojo, then she'd just keep using that model, but I guess she prefers Mikeneko.
@supermarx
@supermarx 5 месяцев назад
What company would run head first into a lawsuit? Any judge in the world would rule in Covers favour.
@ClawManV3
@ClawManV3 5 месяцев назад
@@supermarx No idea what you're talking about. Double check the comment you replied to.
@jenniferhamels1176
@jenniferhamels1176 5 месяцев назад
She owns the IP to Nazuna. She will retain it and all assets. She just wanted the Nazuna persona/lore to be separate from Mikeneko.
@supermarx
@supermarx 5 месяцев назад
@@ClawManV3 Look at a picture of Mikeneko next to a picture of Rushia.
@ClawManV3
@ClawManV3 5 месяцев назад
@@jenniferhamels1176 Yes, I'm aware. I even said so in my comment.
@daddydaddydo3694
@daddydaddydo3694 4 месяца назад
a month after
@Daosguard
@Daosguard 5 месяцев назад
She went right back to the same parasocial stuff she was doing before, she couldn't help it.
@spencerfletcher6933
@spencerfletcher6933 5 месяцев назад
She also harassed and threatened to sue another ex-hololive member.
@sinanjustein9288
@sinanjustein9288 5 месяцев назад
Wtf are you talking about? " Went back" ? She never left it lol
@FLHilde
@FLHilde 5 месяцев назад
Well I'm really happy for her, being Seiyu was always her dream since before she was rushia, since the days she was streaming on niconico she was saying it and looking to be one, she used to do singing streams and anime voices. Also, ever since Vshojo put that jerk in the group I knew she would leave, luckily she and Kson are still close friends, 2024 looks like it will be a great year for her and I'm happy.
@gentlyvillainous
@gentlyvillainous 5 месяцев назад
Who’s the jerk?
@ulisesavila2879
@ulisesavila2879 4 месяца назад
@@gentlyvillainous mineneko, she was willing to leak other holo talents personal´s info when everything blowed into her face.
@danielivey562
@danielivey562 5 месяцев назад
I wish Mikeneko the best moving forward.
@BowsettesFury
@BowsettesFury 5 месяцев назад
I’ve watched Sydsnap for quite a while now. I had no idea she was with v-sho😂
@lostnemesis
@lostnemesis 5 месяцев назад
They just weren't doing a lot with her and the people who would do collabs with her were small in number and basically just kson, but good for her she's doing her own thing and it's been going well for her.
@limbothebiggay1709
@limbothebiggay1709 5 месяцев назад
Hopefully Nazuna does well
@richardryley3660
@richardryley3660 5 месяцев назад
Mikeneko was kind of a unique thing at the time. While she was coming from another VTuber identity, and thus VShojo needed to creste a new identity for her, she already had her identity as Mikeneko. She could have based her new original character on herself (as I believe Kson did to a large extent) but instead she kind of created an IP that turned out to just be temporary. I will miss Nazuna. I thought she had a beautiful design, and she has a lovely voice. But I will have to look into Mikeneko now. I'm interested in seeing what her new character is like, and if Nazuna will make cameo appearances every now and then. . I feel I also have to mention Henya, who came to VShojo under similar circumstances, but who has no public identity to return to, as far as I know. I could see her sticking with the Henya identity should she choose to move on. Not that I am expecting that for many more years. 😂 I do hope Mikeneko can still collab with the VShojo girls occasionally, even if it is as her new identity.
@Snakedude4life
@Snakedude4life 5 месяцев назад
Legitimately forgot she was even part of vShojo until an animation came out and I was wondering who the white haired girl was. 🎩 🐍 no step on Snek!🇺🇸🇭🇰
@loudradialem5233
@loudradialem5233 5 месяцев назад
Nazuna and Mikeneko collab soon!
@Halterung01
@Halterung01 5 месяцев назад
It would be so nice if Mikeneko and Kson were still Rushia and Coco.
@fadlanfadilah1171
@fadlanfadilah1171 5 месяцев назад
we are either in the wrong timeline, or this is a canon event.
@SoulstrikerV
@SoulstrikerV 5 месяцев назад
Mikeneko has completed spinning the wheel of fate now. From the top as Rushia and then crashing down to the very bottom, and then pulled back up by Nazuna, and concluding her journey back to the top with Nazuna returning the torch to Mikeneko.
@plaguenotprophet7840
@plaguenotprophet7840 5 месяцев назад
You need a Joe Rogan like podcast to do scripts thru for hours about the things you see in twitter. We need more, we gotta get ya a few other similar channels to get some juicy discussions... Basically you'd be the first podcast I'd seen really super cover the vtuber drama the way you understand it
@plaguenotprophet7840
@plaguenotprophet7840 5 месяцев назад
Well you do have yourself a lady friend who makes content? So there's another person you can bring along the way
@bobjones4469
@bobjones4469 5 месяцев назад
Oh Rushia, what are you up to this time?
@Geo255420
@Geo255420 5 месяцев назад
6:55 Sydsnap Has a model? Dose V-tubing? Neat. Been a fan of hers and I dint even know.
@raderelcaroman1403
@raderelcaroman1403 5 месяцев назад
Yeah i'm glad for nazuna,being non-english speaker in vshojo makes it very difficult to be integrated, now that she got back on her feet she can do her own thing, plus it doesn't mean she'll stop vtubing altogether she just won't be part of Vshojo, and honestly theres even a chance she can even continue to interact with the members.
@Starkiller5121
@Starkiller5121 5 месяцев назад
Vshojo is never a permanent deal, it's to help talents get on their feet and put out feelers to see if its worth doing. I mean you can see the difference with Matara and how surprised she was with how they're helping her so much. With Nazuna, she never left her Mikeneko account, so she was likely putting out feelers to see which worked better. Being a JP Vtuber in an American company, it's understandable why she would stay as Mikeneko only. I wish her all the best.
@nashd1821
@nashd1821 5 месяцев назад
I miss the time were vtubers were all fun and games and no dramas
@KamenIvvy
@KamenIvvy 4 месяца назад
What dramas? Did we watch the same video? Girl got a better job so shes moving on, thats it
@RikouHogashi
@RikouHogashi 5 месяцев назад
Also considering how much Niji has screwed up as of late this really sadly inevitable
@jonjosh755
@jonjosh755 5 месяцев назад
I love nazuna design btw
@markF0601
@markF0601 5 месяцев назад
なずなちゃんの中の人、 声優生活頑張ってください!
@Nope_handlesaretrash
@Nope_handlesaretrash 5 месяцев назад
At least with nazuna she's leaving under her own terms. Let's all appreciate vshojo for helping her transition.
@MASTERCRAFT938
@MASTERCRAFT938 5 месяцев назад
Hello there Rev :D
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