This Was Unbelievable! || 2024 Lumberjack Challenge Men's Mile 

Flagstaff is also 1200 feet higher than Boulder

And? Altitude relative to time is the topic

@@veganpotterthevegan Without question, Nico's performance is relatively more impressive. I merely was pointing out that Klecker and Hoare were missing from the list he showed of sub-4 altitude performers.

@@andrewkatz6649 Thanks for pointing that out andrew. Quite frankly, before this video, I thought no human had ever run a sub 4 mile in the State of Colorado. So am I to assume that Klecker is the fastest miler ever in Colorado ?? But, to backtrack just slightly, as I was watching this video, I blurted out in my mind, "Nico has just run the best ever high elevation mile". - On a sidenote, I HATE when people say "at altitude" because it has no meaning. If you're 5 feet above sea level, you're "at altitude". LOL. The other thing we should also consider, is density altitude which is "altitude" corrected for non standard temperature. As an example if you're in Denver elevation 5280 and it's a hot day, the density altitude probably will be perhaps 8000 feet.

Both are oversized tracks, which is interesting. NAU's is 300m and turns are are softer and smoother than BYU, but unbanked. BYU's track is 321.8m, straights are long, but turns are asymetrical, with one being slightly (and I mean barely) banked, but smooth, and the other basically being two 90º angles with a tiny bank to them. It can also get pretty dusty and HOT in there, so respiration can be an issue. I'd say it's much easier to get in a rhythm at NAU's track, and it's overall an easier place to run fast, but BYU's has its advantages, namely the longish straightaways and its altitude. Regardless, BOTH are much easier to run fast on than an unbanked 200m track.

did you go to NAU for grad school? I’ve been looking into high altitude grad schools for similar reasons, I’d like to study and live at altitude for a while

Probably a valid point - this video was a bright spot in my day because breaking the 4 minute mile at a high elevation is quite an amazing feat. Frankly I think the NCAA conversion tables are flawed. What would be so cool if it were possible, is Nico get maybe 7 or 8 days of rest and run the same exact effort in a mile indoor race at or near sea level and whatever his time is, you can come up with more accurate conversion tables. Also comparing indoor to indoor would be fantastic in creating new conversion tables because the indoor temperatures are probably very close. That is important because what the NCAA conversion tables don't factor in is DENSITY ALTITUDE. Density altitude being corrected altitude for non standard temperature.

When and where was that ?? I'm curious because in 2018 I drove to Tallahassee for to watch Rupp and company in the USAT & F XC championship and I kid you not, I met Alberto Salazar and actually had a long conversation with him HA !! That was just before he got banned. The ONLY reason we were able to talk is because I'm a friend with a personal friend of his. But Alberto seemed like a very nice guy to me, certainly not the devil the media made him out to be.

and who cares about kip keeno?

@jonasf4065 A lot of people, especially if he ran that fast lol

@@jonasf4065Ever heard of the Kip Keino classic?

Kipchoge ‘Kip’ keino won Olympic golds at 1500m in 1968 and 3000m steeplechase in 1972 in addition many achievements too numerous to mention, if Nico Young can achieve half of that he’s done very well I wish him luck.

@@ccbgaming6994 Lol. Just checked that loser. Has a near 3:35 1500 PB. Please. Dont even bring that name up again.

Why are you telling us this? No one here cares about you or knows you. Make the comments about the athletes in the video, not yourself. Smh

@@No_One1_Special the great thing about RU-vid is you can choose to read or not read what ever you like…

@@No_One1_Special Hey, dude, chill a little.

​@@No_One1_Specialhe can say what he wants 🤡🤡🤡

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Nico Young, Aidan Troutner, Habtom Samuel, Colin Sahlman, and Theo Quax's marks are faster.

He knows Nico is faster

@@veganpotterthevegan I think we ALL know that 😂😂

@@iRunfastXC Emmanual seems to not

Yeah, I’m surprised how long that went. 36 total comments

​@@shrankai7285all the comments are bots except the last two

Wdym I clicked it and was instantly satisfied

@@ccbgaming6994 it was pretty satisfying to see how dumb these scammers are

Yeah Scientology cult

Oh, oversized.

Let me guess - about 2 or 3 % body fat - extremely lean, yet at the same time very strong. And toss in better than average top end speed and a genetic propensity for higher than average VO2 max, shake it all up and let it settle, you get a world class middle distance runner - a guy who is able to beat 99.999 % of all humans on the planet in running.

​@@mustardseedsociety😂 fax. Every seen someone run 40-50 mpw for a whole summer, run a xc season, good pre season workouts and only drop the mile time from 5:20 to 5:13 😭😭

​@@mustardseedsocietyhowever someone's story where they "just go outside and run" and get only like 15 mpw and instantly go from 6 minutes to a 4:50 💀💀

@@Venxlation Hey when I was in HS we had a guy who joined the track & XC team. The guy was built very solid and he could be a football player or baseball player. He trains for like a month and in his first meet he clocks 4:50 in the mile. Yes, 4:50 is not going to win State, but for a newby rookie runner who looks like he could be on varsity football, that was pretty impressive. Frankly, I think the overriding factor is top end speed. The more speed you have, the more you got to work with. Our top runner in HS ran the mile in 4:11 and he used to say he had no speed. But in an all out 400, he could clock 52 which is not exactly slow. 98 +% of all humans on the planet could not clock a 52 second 400 meter or faster. I'd be willing to bet that Jakob can break 47 in the 400. Can Jakob break 45 ?? Probably not. But Jakob has speed, maybe not Usain Bolt speed, but he's got speed which is why he runs a 3:43 mile and 7:54 two mile.

@@mustardseedsociety factual but we had an 800 guy and our team trains lots of speed so he ran a 2:00 - 1:59 a lot and his mile was only a 4:40 but his 400 was also under 52. There also a guy in our state who ran a 4:10 and he could clock 49 sec 400m. It really varies but you can be slow and dominate in the longer distances, and sometimes it's a genetic thing. Like a Kenyan where your body is built to sustain a high cadence pace and good oxygen systems.

yep

No consistent training partners I’d say

Is that true? I mean this guy is heavy on clickbait and sensationalism but I thought he normally gives credit or asks permission

@@antflynn7yup. He gave credit here but declined a request for compensation for the footage

This will give Jakob Ingebrigtsen sleepless nights LOL.

@@wilhelmw3455 good one!

This is the 2nd fastest altitude mile ever run. Yes shocks the world fits quite well actually

Ok

What did you run at or close to sea level?

Obviously he understands