This Weird technique Actually worked Great! 

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A sign of a good horse trainer is one who's always continuing to learn and can admit they don't know everything

Ryan trying to relate to the rest of us: “I saw this on the internet…”😂

I’m 80 yrs old. I was shown that technique the first time I started my own horse in my early 20’s. It worked well. I admire you for trying new things. ❤

I was taught this 45 yrs ago. It works great

It's awesome to see a pro, see something new and be excited to learn new stuff. Never pretend to know it all. Great job Ryan. gives me more confidence in learning more myself. 👌🏼

Honestly because this works so well I think that you do need to be 'that guy at the show'. If great trainers like you show a new way at higher levels it creates an opportunity for change. Especially if it's easier for our horses to understand its definitely worth doing! As always I love everything you do! 👏

Heck ,Ryan. . . my buddies & I did this back when we were kids training our ponies (1960's). I thought we just thought it up on our own !

That's so great you're open to trying techniques that are new to you. It's so important to stay open minded, as long as it's reasonable. It helps to expand your training tool box. This is actually a very old cowboy technique and it works pretty well. Also, it's not a bad thing that you use your legs. It's not cheating. I would rather buy a horse that knows about leg cues. You are such an awesome trainer!

Our family had a horse that we used crossed reins all the time. If someone put the reins on uncrossed the horse still worked well, but he backed better with them crossed. This was in the 1960's. It was also much gentler on the horses mouth.

“Huh, well, that is pretty slick” 😊

😆 I always tell my daughter... never start a sentence with, I saw on Tiktok..... I guess there's always an exception to every rule. That being said, I have learned so much from videos such as this, so ..... yeah, there's that 😂. Thanks for sharing, Ryan. That was awesome.

I enjoy hearing about your own learning and training process as well. Thank you for another great video, Ryan.

I did this with my first horse in 1975, a friend gave me this advice and it does work! My horse was green and so was I!!!

Yep! I did this to train neck reining for years!

I've done this! Works great! Until you forget your reins are crossed and try to direct rein. 'Go right, no, left, wait, AHHHHHGH!'

It works... Can't beat Al Dunning advice

I'm no horse trainer and I'm not much of a cowboy. I started doing that with a horse when I was 7 years old. It does work. My parents decided that my pony should neck rein instead of what we called plow reining and I guess you call direct reining. I'm now almost 60 and I've used it on several horses. If it'll work for a 7 year old kid that ain't much of a rider, it'll work for anybody.

That is how I was taught, as a kid, over 60 years ago from all the old cowboys. We ran a lot of cows in a section of land. Still do it today. Works like a charm. I'm so glad you came across this. The beauty of having an open mind and being willing to learn new/different options to get an end result.

The technique has been around awhile. I did this as a kid in the ‘70’s to train my horse to neck rein.

I was shown this about 20 years ago and tbh I had kind of forgotten about it. I'm currently starting to get my OTTB to neck rein and will be starting the technique right away. Thanks for the reminder. However, physics being physics, I would only be using the technique in a controlled environment as it would be quite difficult to do your relaxed rein or getting the hindquarters to cross over on a skittish horse.

That is pretty wild....and makes total sense, for the horse. Love when awesome horse trainers teach each other their tricks, which ends up being better for the horse. I am a bay lover, but sure am liking those roans, and your wife's roan is one lovely horse!

I admire you as a trainer trying and learning new things. I think as horse people we are constantly learning.

I got tickled watching how tickled you were with how well this worked. Fun video.

I love that you are willing to humbly admit that you've been able to "get away" with only a surface level of understanding. Most people will not admit that they were lacking in any way.

I commend you for trying "new" things! I'm in the camp of having learned this 40+ years ago. Thanks for putting it out there and teaching it to the next generation!

I read about this in a book I got from the library (1977😂 I was 14) and I used it to train my 4 yr old Appy Mare to neck rein from straight rein! ☺️☺️✅✅✅

50 years ago I used this technique to train 3 yr olds. Forgot all about it until now, thank you

I did that 65 years ago. I knew nothing about training, but someone said to try it. If I had not been a teenager, I might have followed through. and could tell you that it worked great. I just did it once in a while. Glad to see you doing it.

I’m pretty sure if Al dunning suggested this technique it’s not a gimmick. He’s not the only one that has suggested this. Actually have seen a trainer who did rope like this

I've used this technique before, even with a hackamore. It works. I've also leaned forward and put pressure on the higher 1/3 of the horse's neck, closer to the ears, which seemed to help so far as I can remember. I only used the latter technique a time or two on an older horse that was totally used to mouth reining.

Been training horses for 30 plus years. Learned this from John Lyons.

A dressage coach i had, had all the students apply this, (in the 1970’s), she called it, under cross reining, saying it was an effective way to practice indirect and direct pressure. Our coach was big into bridle-les riding/jumping and blindfolding the advanced students, she’d use most any technique, if it was safe and produced positive results, the under cross reining, really helped many young horses and us young students.

We used this crossed reign technique bac in high school to get our horse started neck reigning. Also lifting the reigns far up the neck helps as well untill they get the idea. The high neck crossed reigns takes maybe an hour or so and then the reigns can be lowered gradually to the more normal position. The crossed reigns can be uncrossed after a day or so depending on the horse. The advantage to neck reigning is that the horse can be guided with just one hand, turned right and left as well as backed up and turned while backing all with just one hand. The other hand being free for other uses.

I am not a pro trainer, but I learned this trick years ago from an old Indian man. I've done it all my life when I trained young colts. I can tell you I used both reins in two hands until they understood that the pressure on their neck meant to turn. Once they got that down and understood, then I just transferred my reins back to normal. It's always worked for me. Again, I'm not a pro trainer. Only someone who pleasure rides.

I always did quite a bit different on the this with my legs. I have seen 90% of people want to move the horse off of their outside leg. I won’t say who gave me this tip many years ago, but it was a very good Horseman and it worked out extremely well for me. I leave them alone on the outside. I reach for them with my inside leg. If you’re observant, you will always notice they start to pass their attention as you are reaching for them. this is what we actually want is for their brain to go to, Let’s say the left. once their attention has passed that way, I would lay the range over on them, but I would also start to open up with my left leg and invite them to go that way. As I said, it was very effective for me. Not being critical just trying to toss out some tools that have worked for me. Of course you obviously have some pretty good tools working for yourself as well.

I am 73 and was taught that by the person from whom I bought my very green bucksin mare at 16.

My grandfather taught me this technique way back in the 70s when I was a kid. I think it's an old way that went out of fashion. We did it with young horses training in the ring and out on trails. I actually used it this summer on a whim and it worked great. Old becomes new again, maybe?

I am totally trying this tonight!! My horse is neck rein trained but I think I can get him more responsive using this.

An oldie but a goodie. When I was a kid more than half a century ago we were doing that. Taught to us by a quarter horse trainer who had Leo Reed. I had no idea I was petting history when petting Leo Reed.

One of the first things I learned to do with my ponies many years ago. Fun to see how great this worked in this video.

I really love how you keep an open mind, maintain your even demeanor and take your time to achieve results. I would like to see you training some of these owners, I think they can be much more difficult than the horses.

Very cool! What a dramatic result. Great demonstration. Glad you're open-minded enough to try new things. The best teachers are those who keep learning.

I like how he’s going into detail about it. I like these kind of videos. Looked like the internet hack worked lol

We did that when I was kid, 50 years ago. I think I read it in Horse &Rider. It was a looong time ago. It worked ok.

That is the standard method to train neck reining in my area. I personally have used it for 60+ years.

Oooooh, that was actually quite a lightbulb for me! As an english rider, i don't tend to use neck reining but i do find it useful when trail riding as for comfort, its useful riding one handed. I've struggled a bit to get them to move to the 'right side' and never even considered the bit was actually tipping them the 'wrong' way. Like you, i tend to add in a bit of leg to encourage the move. This was very cool to see you try a new thing and see it play out well!

Tried it today it seemed to work in the yard. I’ll try it on the trail tomorrow. Thanks for great videos

When you exclaimed “oooo!” When he did the rollback at the fence and it worked! LOL!

This is cool. I could try this with my western trained horse he doesn’t neck rein well. He’s barrel trained.

I feel a tad accomplished... I've done this years ago, I to love when a trainer will try something new. Now to surf your channel for more techniques~

You do not need a bit to do neck reining.

Your real time compare and contrast was such a great idea.

I like this type of video :) It's fun to see you trying other trainer's techniques for us. Like a "Hack or Cap" video

Wow, all of the people commenting saying they have seen/ used this before it's blowing my mind! I have never seen this before, yet it does make sense. It is the same principle as laying the rein on the horses neck, applying very light pressure to the outside rein, and then correcting with the inside rein. In fact, on a safe horse, it's probably a much more fun way to do it since you can go to one hand! And then back up with leg as necessary. I might use this someday.

Well, that’s a cool technique. You’re right, the outside rein does pull on the outside of the bit which during training. It is probably very confusing to most horses. Love this.

I just love your excited responses!

Kenne ich noch aus meiner Kindheit. Lustig, wie alles wiederkommt. 😊

Thank you for trying new things and for showing us! I look forward to trying this as well.

Every ol'tiner I've ever talked to about teaching a horse to neck rain has always told me thats HOW you teach a horse to neck-rein🤔🤔 Maybe Lambeau did so well because he is not 'zactly new to neck reining? Nice job! BOTH of you😊😊😉

Well heck. I am 75 & my dad taught me this as a teenager. So everything old is new again.

I’ve been doing that for 50 years. My Dad taught me. 😊

X reins is how my grandpa and dad use to train neck reining back in the 1940s, its an old horseman technique

I love this Perfect timing. I just taught my Friesian to pony my 5 yr. old Gypsy gelding. I was having some issues as I typically ride my Friesian with two hands in a snaffle. I have been working on neck reining on him. This should work great. I do have a low port bit, can I use that to transition my Friesian?

I saw this one back in the 70’s

My grandfather taught me this over 30 years ago😊

Just to clarify this is not neck reining. It works because the left rein applies pressure to the right side of the bit and the right rein applies pressure to the left side of the bit. The horse is not turning or flexing by giving to the feel of the outside rein on the neck. Maybe that will come in time, but it is not what is happening here.

I learned this from an old local rancher who used to judge when I showed my 4-H horses. Like 50 years ago..shhhh.

Learned this as a kid in Vermont. You just use it so they can get the neck feel / enhance that cue. Good to watch you trying it out.

That was popular back in th 50s ,60s. It does work!

My horse barely has done neck rein... I'm gonna try this!

I do that cross work very well an old Reiner trainer guy showed me.

I used this on my mare years ago and it does work.

I learned about this as a kid. (Long time ago.). It was a training technique and I never had occasion to use it. Al Dunning is a pretty capable horseman so I think it’s legit.

I grew up riding retired standardbreds and teaching to neck rein was the hardest thing. Often, it wasn't able to be accomplished well. We did it the way Ryan was saying he did it. I wish I'd seen this technique back then.

I thought neck reining was meant to be done at a loose rein so much so that the opposite side doesnt get any tension (which ultimately is what confuses the horse). I thought it was more of a "lay the rein" on the neck. But this technique definitely looks like it could help with teaching it! Thanks.

We did this as kids. I think it was something that the “old guys” told us to do. I remember it a a step towards using mostly body/legs.

That was something that was done when I was a kid. Wondered what happened to it.

Crossing them like that is how my cousins started teaching neck reining - the bit pressure and the neck pressure are sending the same signal. Then you can start using less bit and more neck and leg.

It's called the jockey's cross,works good with a snaffel bit.

love your enthousiasm

Goes to show you can always learn new things

Soooooo Amazing! Always teachable!

Thank you I will try that tomorrow

I tried crossing my reins, it worked .

I heard of that many years ago when I road western. I was told it was a way to train horses to neck rein.

Excellent tip. 😊

I've heard of others who have done that. I forget to try it. 😅

Going to give this a try

When i was 10 yrs old the wrangler at the guest ranch i stayed at always crossed the reins for the dudes.

Very interested to hear how it translates when you switch back!

"Lambeau" Good Wisconsin horse!

Wow thank you for sharing i would of never thought! But it kind of makes sense! Lol

Enjoyed your video have a great day.

My uncle showed me that 40 years ago to teach neck reining

I used that technique years ago. it is effective

In theory, it seems like it would work

One of the boarders at my barn was showing this method on her horse she seen it on tik toc but she didn't stick with it. But I think it's a pretty good method 😁

Who Knew??? I guess Al knew!! So cool!

Great video, and props to you for giving credit where it's due. In my humble opinion, this is just direct reigning disguised as neck reining. It Will not teach neck reining at all.