This Would Change NBA History 

Boy you wish steph was on the knicks in the draft.

@@ajanalysis7742 you're damn right i do

but that being said, knowing the knicks he wouldn't be the same player that he is today lmao

@@AceTyper the knicks will always be the knicks so knowing them they trade after a couple ankle injuries maybe even refuse to extend him after the first 2

Completly agree His presence on the court is just affecting the game the closer he gets to the three point line the tighter gets the opponents defense I dont think there is any player that get doubled as much as him in his 5 finals run. Except maybe Jordan and Shaq and they were special in theyre own ways too

Saw that series! 100% would recomend

I saw the start and thought “Oh snap Jonny already did this!” But you’re both great so let’s goooi

That was an awesome series, some of your best work!

@@JxmyHighroller hi

@@JxmyHighroller been watching for more than 4 years

Lol, who shouldve got it in , 18 and 15, the NBA probably just thought after bullying him that much they should just give him it

@@prodoz1428 Not 2017 when durant won. He has higher ppg, assists and rebounds and a lot more over curry. Being a die hard curry fan, its nothing but the facts which is why everyone said dubnation would never win without durant. Yet here we are in 2022. The 2015 Iguodala mvp was a robbery when curry had the highest stats over him.

me...

@@joeboom2470 ok KD fan boy

@@joeboom2470 he has a roblox pfp no use debating w/ facts

The Mavs swept the Lakers who were the reigning champs during that run and yet people dare to say it was a team full of scrubs

Dirk looked like Jesus in Dallas jersey in that run.

Thats why its finals MVP and not playoffs MVP

@@MrVlodato that's why it's most valuable and not statistical best.

​@@MrVlodato His comment is in response to something that was said in the video

Watch @Thinking Basketball. Their content is super interesting and enjoyable, and really high-quality stuff too. Them and this account are my two favorite basketball accounts

jj reddick is the only bit of basketball media that's an exception but otherwise its a bunch of clowns

Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacts

The media is “silly” aka trash regardless

It doesn't.. but he makes good videos.. not tryna put a penis on a pedestal after putting pussy on pedastals my whole life

You are blinded bro. If you talk about 2011 finals, noo sorry, but Dirk wasn't efficient 🤣🤣🤣he was totally the opposite, he was very inefficient player in those series and had 41,6% from the field which definitely isn't soo good. He averaged 26 points while Wade averaged 26,5 points on miles better 54,6% feom the field, more assists, more steals and more blocks than Dirk. Wade played one of the most complete finals ever those series and he was very, very efficient while doing that.

@@hristijandimitrovski8664 true that’s why wade won right :)

@@hristijandimitrovski8664 imagine how many open looks dirk would get playing alongside lebron james at his prime.

@@ienjoyrice nothing 🤣🤣🤣because in those series Lebron didn't helped Wade to score those points, he alone made those drives and those mid-range shots, Lebron was terrible in those finals so stop mentioning him, in those series Lebron wasn't Lebron. Dirk missef in those finale shots that he usually makes, again Wade was much more dominamt than Dirk on both sides on the floor. Dirk never even thought about playing defense, Wade blocked even their center who was much, much higher than him.

@@hristijandimitrovski8664 wade still lost. You typed that whole essay and they were losers.

Dam son you hit tat nail on the head

one of the best takes i’ve ever seen

@@kannaachockalingam5433 possibly one of the greatest stories ever told

further proof to this is the current Nets

i mean, yes, but curry playing the way he did allowing kd to put up ridiculous numbers means that kd is still the mvp, while curry supplemented his play.

Are you non-biased because you say you’re non-biased? 😂

I agree. Giannis had a legendary finals last year. Not to mention the second most clutch block I’ve seen in the finals

@@TheKL04 well hes not wrong. From the bulls fan

Why do you have to say you're non-biased? You don't say it, you show it. You're like you're in denial lmao

@@TheKL04 He's saying that he roots for the Bucks, regardless of how good they are. If Giannis didn't have a legendary Finals performance, he wouldn't acknowledge it as legendary.

It doesn't matter we all know that all "BLACK" people look alike so..💯🤣

@@herbmes ?

@@herbmescome again

that what he did but lost in the play in :,(

@@brianventura1425 Who lost in the play -in?

@@AM-dd6dx you're clearly trolling. What does last year gotta do with this year?

That happens to every superstar stop meatriding Stephanie curry 😂😂😂

Nahh it was the numbers that pointed it out. Celtics couldve had won it if it was all stats

Celtics lost because of turnovers .

celtics threw a couple games this series and at times did not have an answer for the warriors' offense. They looked lost on offense at times and really couldn't get tatum going. Warriors played better ball but one small play can change the outcome of the whole series. word to bron

I think it is because experience was not a factor in that prediction. Experience is a random variable in calculations so when compared to the warriors who lived in the finals, the current celtics are practically nobodies.

@@bighuncho5210 They have turnovers because Warriors actually played defense 🤡 stop the excuses 🤡🤡

In this scenario Bron has 7 and MJ has 5…

@@swagconundrum 1. You missed in my comment where I said "basically", not "literally all". And the part where I said this was after watching tons of his videos, not solely focusing on just this one in particular. 2. You left out the other stats *in this video* where MJ was on top, JUST so you can focus on the one where MJ lost.

@@matt0198922 This is basically why the GOAT debate ends up coming down to the difference in Finals records for many of the people that have Jordan. Despite what LeBron fans will try to say, it was never the ONLY reason or even the main reason. It's the cherry on top. For all of LeBron's individual greatness, it didn't have the impact on winning titles the way Jordan's greatness did for his teams. Trying to use LeBron's opponents being better is a lazy excuse because I see no reason why LeBron's teams couldn't be as good or better. He's had enough help to achieve that despite what his fans will have you think.

@@shovellware h o w

@@davidmartinez52420 He didn't have enough help Jordan had more help, not only from his teammates, but from the refs too.

Lets not forget the hyperextended knee

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Man fuck allat 😭 they shouldnt have made it to the finals to begin with neither should have the Suns shit was luck for both teams making it bc of injuries

@@TeeWhy073 1. You face who is in front of you. 2. The Nets were healthy this year, but they got swept by the Celtics. The same Celtics who Giannis alone took to 7 games. 3. We could argue that if Middleton wasn’t injured this year that the Bucks would’ve made the finals again. Who on the Warriors is stopping Giannis? They have no size. Giannis would avg 40 in a series against GSW, and with how inconsistent the Warriors are I feel like the Bucks would’ve had a damn good chance to win if they made it again. Once again, you just have to play who is in front of you.

@@TeeWhy073 Giannis still had an all time great series, regardless of whether you think the teams deserved to be there or not.

yeye I noticed and was about to comment as well

Wonder if those were Kobe’s numbers too from a different series

I was about to say that too lol

Never knew Kobe played with the raptors and had the same hairline as kawhi you learn knew things by jimmy all the time

@@iliketurtles7782 Damn, I wish kobe played for the raptors instead of dropping 81 on them

There has been a few but I am sure its hard to catch them all

I actually didn’t notice this until you pointed it out lol

Yeah I was a bit confused when I saw that lol but it goes to show we aren't perfect 🤷‍♂

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The finals MVP trophy died on 2015, and until Steph wins it, the trophy will be relevant again!

@@MediumCoast LMAOOO NAHHH

His videos are full of flaws. In this case it starts at 0:00, where he conveniently merges MJs 1995 comeback and his 1996 season one year later for dramatization. He's not legit.

It might mean you were a better player that lost to a better team.

@@grega3611 Even then it's a useless effort. This award isn't for the best player, it's for the most valuable. You have the most value when you contribute decisively to victory. If you lose, you might the best in terms of numbers, but you're certainly not the most valuable because there's no value in defeat.

Bro goated comment

@@bruno3 good point

@@bruno3 Put prime MJ with literal newborns and have him play a decent college team. Which team wins? Would you really say one of those college kids is a more valuable player than MJ or is it simply that his value, though HIGHER THAN EVERYONE ELSE, isn't high enough to make up for his teammates lack of value? While I 100% agree than the intangibles that can't be put on paper make Dirk deserving of the fmvp, in a TEAM sport, TEAM victories and losses don't determine INDIVIDUAL value. The performance of the individual determines their value.

We don't know that

@@cristophermariano6437 yes we do.. If you actually watched the game. Middleton was the deciding factor. His size and shooting coupled with the fact that giannis could actually rest while middleton is on the floor. Makes a huge difference. Even without his number 2..giannis took it to 7 games.. That is proof enough. Celtics are a good team. But they are playing immaturely. Just like giannis was before they won their first championship.

The only proof we need is the fact he took the Celtics to seven games...if middleton was even in just one game...it would be a different story...(

@@wilbronendege5273 exactly

@@wilbronendege5273 the celtics suck ass. i swear ppl complained about the lakers and lebron vs "easy" heat. this team his ass and has both star players playign like a benching given 30 minutes and a green light

how it feel

It never fails to amaze just how skinny 2015 Steph was - looking not only like a high schooler, but a stick figure to boot. He's put so much effort into bulking up (while remaining nimble) these last few years.

@@jackstrawful the nigga was 6'3 180 he just wasnt cut. hes a shooter. he 195-200, all muscle now. u have to take time because u dont want extra strength to throw off your shot.

actually I think that 2015 and 2108 should be stephs because Cavs are always doubling steph on downtown and give space for durant to dunk.

He fortunate to have a great organization behind him

But did he do it or his team?

@@iPeriodBlood he led his team to do it

@@fredrickmazeli8340 Exactly. Who else on the Mavs deserved that award?

You’re misunderstanding, the best player in the finals was Wade that series. But Dirk was really good in that whole run, and the numbers show that, but they also show that Wade was better than him in the series

Imagine if LeBron didn't choke.

but steph made it possible tho

I knew i wasn't the only one

Gravity is represented in some form in BPM

@@KINGJERMARCUS (X) doubt

Some stats/pros that Steph would score high in but are not easily measured: 1. How a player stretches the other team defense. It's said all the time that when he is on the ball being double teamed he is VERY happy to unselfishly pass the ball to the open guy. But additionally when Steph is on the court everybody has to RUNNNNN and stay running. (BTW This is one of the disadvantages of iso-basketball teams and ball hog superstars - the defending team doesn't have to run. They have time to think.) One of the reasons the warriors beat teams in 3rd and 4th quarters is because the opponents are gassed during crunch time. And one of the reasons the warriors are deadly in transition is because you are running from the time Steph crosses half court. Harder to coordinate the defense plan. 2. Ability for teammates to be themselves. With Steph on the court there is no pressure if you try your thing and fail. He is by far the most team friendly superstar in the modern game. This plays out for small positives during a single game but for very big franchise benefits over time. Combined with Kerr's coaching style players are able to find themselves and their true form during the season when playing with the warriors... by the time the play offs arrives the whole Golden State roster can feel like a threat. 3. Score quickly. I don't see much people talking about this but Steph has a habit of scoring in bursts. Nothing seems to deflate another side as when Steph goes on runs of raining 3's. This is his version of "clutch"

The greatest off ball player in NBA history ?

@@Cafetero_ Sure is!

I think he was a bit tired 😴

@@MetawarOG Kawhi = Kobe confirmed

Curry didn't win it because he had a bad game in 2015 finals where they lost which gave the perception that he choked. And Iggy got it for defending lebron I guess. People forget though that steph scored 37 points to win game 5. He was clearly better than Iggy.

@@AQGOAT24 yes curry should have gotten the finals MVP award over Andre that year, 100%… but he has a chance this year in 2022 so let’s see how it goes

Nah, Curry played better than Iguodala even on the games they won. Iggy was just voted because he almost triples his stats in the finals, which is an insane improvement but still not close to what Steph did.

I agree. My only "problem" is the stupidity of the Suns matching Giannis and Deandre Ayton 1on1. When Giannis is on the court, you build a wall. Very simple. It might work, it might not. But to leave Giannis 1on1 with Deandre Ayton the whole series is probably the worst coaching I've seen in my life. I'll never use that against Giannis but when I think of that series, first I think of his greatness then I think of how stupid the Suns were

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I’d love to see Giannis keep this up. If he can he’ll enter the goat discussion within the next 5 years.

Let’s not forget that he came off of a hyperextended knee to start the series

Giannis isn’t underrated 💀

Yeah he is not underrated lol everyone knows Giannis is a beast

Giannis has the most heart in the league he never gives up

“Yes, I need a 50 piece chicky nuggie meal, not 49 piece, not 51 piece, 50, FIFTY piece, and a lemonade please” ~Giannis “The Greek Freak” Antetokounmpo

@@igrojikku2212 I mean everyone likes chicky nuggies right

and the problem with this is it doesn't fully take into account the minute details that nbody ever sees. Like how Lebron is a team player MORE so than a scorer. If he was an outright scorer. He'd have more rings and mvps. But he's not that selfish.

@@catedoge3206 disagree. if lebron was more of a scorer it does not equate to him winning more. He has those accomplishments BECAUSE he is a team player. If he was more of a scorer he wouldn’t average the same assists or have the same PER etc and he wouldn’t elevate his team like he’s done in the past by being more selfish

@@catedoge3206 also this wouldn’t even make lebron more valuable at all, all it changes is his scoring at the end of the day. OP explained it well

Steph doesn't get doubled by just standing. He only gets doubled when he's putting in a ton of work running around and getting a bunch of screens.

@@catedoge3206 sounds like you're confusing his last 3 years with his whole career

This is one of the things I always think. In my case for Manu Ginobili. He had a lot of great games, but he didn't put 35pts games all the time like other people. However, whenever he came on the court maybe he made 2 or 3 three pointers, but those were like massive at the end of a quarter or whenever the team needed that morale. I think Kobe was the same. Besides the raw numbers, he was electrifying to play with. And that energy (as he said himself) is not something you can show in statistics.

Yeah, i think it would be interesting to see a stat describing the value of made shots. So a gamewinning threepoint buzzer beater, shot over the dpoy would be the most valuable shot and would a large score. While a completely wide open layup while ahead by 50 would add practically nothing. With that stat we could truly see who performs bet on ball in clutch moments.

Facts. Although I'm a Spurs fan, I'm a big Ray Allen fan, also have his autobiography. Big fan of him. Great guy.

and he was more than just a fuckin shooter the most disrespected legend by the nba his own team and fans

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Ray Allen saved lebron legacy

Wwe is realer than the NBA. Just so you know the Lakers bucks and warriors all won there championship in 6 in the last 3 years. Btw this the day before game 6 and I guarantee warriors win

Yessir

bro are u sped, im a warriors fan and boston is no where near one of the best defences ever assembled

Giannis, a hobbled Jimmy Butler, and now Steph Curry have been giving that defense buckets this playoffs. The only one they managed to slow down was Durant.

@@travistchokotieu7915 I mean, if you believe the stats then yes they are

Na he just shoots can't guard a chair and is loaded .

@@travistchokotieu7915 sped lol

Not really. KD put up 35.4ppg against the bucks last year with nobody taking attention away from him on defense. He's always been able to score 35

@@OscarUnrated what? I’d say having either Harden or Kyrie on the court takes some attention away from him… there’s a reason the Warriors were as unbelievably dominant as they were, while any other team Durant is on regardless of the amount of all stars he has end up failing miserably… When you’re on a team with the most dangerous shooter the game has ever seen & that guy can literally pull up from half court consistently, then you tend to get more open shots & 1 on 1s… Sure Durant can have a few game stretch where his stats are insane, but where has that gotten him when he wasn’t on a team with Curry?

@@QasperDubstep Kyrie wasn't playing and Harden was hobbling around on one knee playing terrible. KD put up 49 points, 17 rebounds and 10 assists game 5. Maybe KD would've won last year if his team stayed healthy. Anyway it's not my point to argue KD vs Steph

It’s not like he’s the only one with gravity

Even Ty Lue admitted it. They’d rather let Klay and KD be alone and just double Steph.

It's an intentional joke, i think

I just went to keyboard warrior that statement but refrained. Glad someone saw it.

@@tiffanylovelovelove do you know the origin?

@@garygfgf4460 Greece

Good to know I wasn’t the only one that noticed it lol

U fast

Source?

bro nobody cares

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who was that guy

Dirk wouldn’t have won MVP if Dallas lost 😂

@@kluemenadi thanks capt. obvious. you really changed my point of view in life

That Dallas team was stacked. Mad veterans but played together everyone could shoot

This video has so many flaws

How he was the best player on the court

@@kdubs928 he didn’t have to share the ball with 4 hall of famers like the dubs did. That skews a lot of his numbers. The east was so incredibly weak during that time period that lebron and nobodies were able to make the finals

@@waltercampbell9787 the facts that there was a team with 4 hall of famers in their prime to beat a team of nobodies and lebron is ridiculous, nobody on the warriors deserve the ring let alone the damn finals mvp they didn’t earn either 😭

@@kdubs928 that's because how they defended him. They let him go off. That's why stats can be false

Not to mention they lost by an average of 15 ppg. The closest they came to winning a game was a 10 point OT loss. 2014 would be nearly as bad. Steal 1 game and STILL manage lose by an average of 14 ppg, but here's your MVP trophy. Ridiculous.

As I always say quality over quantity right?

Still could happen. Only chance really is if Lebron goes to golden state though, steph isn’t leaving

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They’d go 82-0

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Wwe is realer than the NBA. Just so you know the Lakers bucks and warriors all won there championship in 6 in the last 3 years. Btw this the day before game 6 and I guarantee warriors win

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Yes any day of the week, he was putting same numbers in okc

@@easymoneysniper1256 yeah because he had an mvp level pg in russel westbrook, with his amazing playmaking

@@easymoneysniper1256 how many rings did he get without steph?

@@stephengrigg5988 how many rings would steph have without KD?

@Roberto Gutiérrez and KD averaged 26 points and that was his worst playoff series ever so i don't see a point really

without a doubt

Dun kno

@@Elementtx1021 Other RU-vidrs choose instead to spit bullshit in order to make money. Jxmy keepin it real 🔥

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he had goat potential if he cared enough

@@bighancho5351 finally someone with a brain

@@bighancho5351 literally if he never split up from the lakers and actually kept his body in shape, he might’ve been considered the GOAT.

These numbers do not even remotely make it objective. If this was how basketball contribution was decided then Steph would have 1 chip and LeBron would have 7. It’s sad that a video like this brainwashed people who don’t understand the game.

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Facts

He predicted Jokic to win MVP before Jokic was even close to being in the conversation

@Luke Thomas exactly

​@Luke Thomas Those guys were injured and lacked the talent and depth of the Warriors. Are you forgetting that the Celtics might end up CHOKING LIKE THE SUNS DID LAST YEAR?!?! I mean, at least the Celtics showed SOME fight, but.....still no.

I feel Celtics could make a comeback though I'm rooting for warriors as I want them and Draymond green to win the finals and say they won it without KD(Draymond said that statement to KD) But Celtics Id like to see them win including Jason Tatum to get his ring. It's so this is hard;;;

There should be actual former players that vote on the fucking fmvp, not these clowns who voted IGUODALA as fmvp over steph.

it isnt bad for a good player but for someone whos in goat debate all the time it really makes a whole lot of difference.

And prolly impact as well. And yes, I agree that the fmvp voting is pretty irrational

Mr FreeThrow Merchant fans gonna cry if that happens

I think the narrative should also be taken into consideration though. Many things like leadership and a clutch shot aren’t shown in the stats mentioned in the video, but are critical to the outcome of a series. Making the bulk of the fmvp statistical would take away from these moments which are arguably far more important than an extra 2ppg or 7% shooting

stats are flawed sometimes.. it does not show the player who was guarded by 2 people starting from half court thus giving space for his team mates,, it also does not show the players who lock down opposing team's best player without steal or block.. it does not show on stats, only on eye-test..

@@frogge7712 I agree with you 100%, that’s why I say context. Someone also mentioned a good point about getting points in garbage time in a finals game so there’s definitely a balance that needs to be there. I just feel as things as voter fatigue, and the popular narrative shouldn’t take the best of voters who give this award

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Worriers💀

kobe didnt create all of shaq's points

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Yea no Shaq was definitely had the best performances in the finals. That’s because the teams they played biggest weak spot was the center position. While if you look at the Western Conference playoff games you’ll see him and Kobe having identical stats.

Still is irrelevant cause he was the better player in the finals 🤨

Kobe is the most overrated player in NBA history, so push for him as MVP in any finals while Shaq dominated isn't surprising.

Definitely great at presenting data. Not much analysts going on tho not hard to go on basketball reference and add two already made metrics together

To hell with the us, GOD BLESS RUSSIA 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺💪🏾👑🥇

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Bro missed like 9 3s last night lmao

And despite that he kept drawing double teams. His impact is about more than his success, it’s also about how much you have to stretch your defense and avoid helping off off him

@@iliketurtles7782 bro also scored 43 and average 30 before that so whats ur point😂

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Facts

Respectfully, he should stay where he is. They would ruin it.

@@JeffThePoustman Exactly what I clicked replies to say.