thoughts from riding four foils in one day 

Loved the video Jeremy! For a winger who’s been riding the same wing for years (GoFoil GL140), I have tried 2 new front wings, (GL 120 & RS1075). Holy Sh%t, what a difference my ride has been. Both higher speeds and a little unstable (GL120), but the RS 1075 was an eye opener.I rode it once before when it was nuking and I was overpowered with my 4.5m wing, not ideal conditions to try a new wing. This time I came back and made adjustments with mast position, as I ride with foot straps, and I’m in love🙄. Higher speeds, more glide, bigger jumps. Don’t know why I didn’t try it again sooner, but it was my wingman buddies wing that he didn’t use often… He sold it to me and I can’t wait for Sunday’s session as the forecast looks great. Thanks for another great video and keeping us stoked to get some winging action.

Like you I was mostly on the MA1000 until the new HAs were released. Even though I also had an 800, I mostly used the 1000. I ladded an 880 and 680. The 680 is now my daily driver. I already sold the 800. I should sell the 1000, but the market here in Australia is so poor for second hand kit, I’m not sure I want to sell it. I use the 880 for very low wind days (~10-12 knots). Anything above ~12 knots and I’m on the 680. I regret buying the 880. But it was the smallest HA2 available for a couple of months and I was itching to try them. I’ve not tried the 580. At my local spot a friend who used to use a 725 as his daily driver has happily switched to the 580 (but he was a good 10jg less than me). The 680 makes me smile every single time I use it. It’s nimble, fast, turns well, unbelievably low stall speed which is probably my favourite feature given how fast it is at the same time as it helps me to dig out of slow inside turns at our local spot which is cross-off.

So much great info in that. I almost didn’t watch because it’s like a crowded space and all overlap But you nailed the whole point of the test. People are waiting to hear for their actual best use case. So 680 for light wind 💨 loud and clear. And yeah the MA just don’t have glide so again useless in lighter winds. Cheers 🥂 Well Done. Watched till the end

Great review and update . Defanatly need some more if you ask me 😂😂😂 take care bud

Despite that I don't ride Armstrong, fascinating to hear the way you review each wing. I sort of ride Axis, I used to use their aluminium masts but bent a couple. And I still use their fuselage. And I've ridden an Art and a couple of bigger wings testing other people's boards for them. But I like riding my own wings. BY now I have a lot. From 2022 to date I have 9 front wings I made not counting where I made more than one in the same mould. 5 of them I made with tubercles but in the end I decided that they were more trouble than they were worth in the manufacturing phase. I tried a super high aspect foil but I bend it like a bow riding it, you really need the super high modulus carbon for anything like that design. It's OK, after a shock the first time riding it I set it aside for months but tried it again some months later, It really just needs a lot lighter rider than me. Then I had another experimental foil, I wanted to see what would happen if I made a medium HA foil that had a relatively thick chord. So I did. Easy to pop up on foil but I feel the drag of the foil through my hands on the wind wing and it's glide and speed are poor. As per design *feature though, the stall speed is quite low. Then I made a couple more foils early this year and they really are my new go-to foils. Great glide, even my medium low aspect one and even though the other new one if faster, I prefer the lower aspect one because it has much better fooling-around factor. I have been blown away with how tight a turns I can make on it and stay on foil and yet go up wind well and have decent speed on it. But it is really good to have a day and just switch through the different wings and think about their different features and flaws as you have here. Change the wave period, change the amount of aeration behind waves, it's all going to affect the way you rate a foil. The last thing I changed this year was to make a fast carbon fibre mast. So happy. Especially with those running the 19mm standard Axis aluminium mast, when you start riding the high performance foils, that mast becomes the performance bottleneck. I think Armstrong has a lot of success simply from their low profile mast / fuselage / wing connection system but as a heavier rider the choice of a narrow diameter hex taper worries me, It's basically an allen key. And I do hear of them loostening, the side fixing should have been a front fixing to always maintain a snug fit. My own wings, I have a fattening algorithm for in the middle because the Axis fuselage front connection bites so much out of a wing.

My daily drivers are HA925 &HA1125. Have a few sessions on MA800. The 800 is much loser turning-especially the yaw axis compared to ha v1. Just got HA680. Looking forward to it.

I also did a back to back in good waves with the MA1000 and the HA 680. As much as I enjoyed the 1000, when I came in at the end of the day I decided I had no real reason to keep it. I think the 800 really shines in sizable waves with solid wind, but not enough to keep me off the 680

Great info! But give the 800 some more time, it’s like riding a short board on the wave and great for jumping. Not as good pop as the 1000 with the 180 but try the 205 also it improves landing and stallspeed . I had my highest jumps on flatwater on the 800/205. It likes constant high speed and I think a narrower board to enjoy the sharper turning radius this wing is capable of. I’m also hyped about the ha’s but soon it will pass and will get back to the 800.

What is your weight…? Thinking HA 780 do to weighing 82kgs or 180lbs. Any thought on weight being an issue and choosing from this range. 680-880

How do they compare to your chopped 925/sk8?

while you were talking I made my bet minute 6:39 .. you will sell the MA 1000 and the MA800... 😀

Sounds like the 800 is the loser in all this.