Thrawn Is Not Evil 

I agree. In his first appearance in the heir to the empire series he was much more tactically inclined.

Are you an imp?

@@shawncollard623 he was the mary sue character of the author, grown to epic proportion due to the fan finally having a competent imperial to root for...but honestly much of his victory are asspull that absolutely depend on the fact that the enemy is a planet of the hat that will make Star Trek say: ehy stop generalizing. Rebels depiction as more as a rutheless and Sherloquesche analyst that use his capacity for military reason but it's not omniscient or invincible is much more credible, especially due to the fact that his victory are more due to planning, analysis but also having a an immense numerical advantage over the enemy. He is just become in the years after his first trilogy a mithyc figure whose legend among the fan is more due to his appeal and nostalgia than what he had done really in the initial book

Agreed.

@@lukedalton I highly recommend reading the Legends Thrawn Trilogy to see the nuances of his character. He is never portrayed as omniscient or invincible and is ultimately defeated because of his flaws and not the impossible situations that Rebels feels the need to throw at him.

Yeah that’s exactly what it was, he’s a man of cultural respect and understanding, and to have one of his subordinates act disrespectfully like that would definitely annoy him

Plus, that officer was probably the reason why they had rebels on Ryloth. If you treat the locals like garbage, you can probably expect them to rebel against your rule.

Yeah I see those scenes as, If you pissed thrawn off, you've really done something stupid

I agree, Thrawn was more than patient with Slavin, that guy was a grade-A boob. I wouldn't have been able to muster Thrawn's level of patience for a moron like that. He tried to be nice, he tried to be subtle, but it failed, so he used the last resort of anger to show he means business. It's not like he had Slavin executed like Tarkin did with Miles and Grint for their incopetence.

He's not a man togive in to irrationality and emotions such as rage

Joe kush you got that from eckharts video when he said the same thing but referring to the sith and revan lmao

@@mattyice9300 true but its a good representation lol

And he got beat by checkers

Same with palleon

@@EzekielDeLaCroix nah either betrayal, or WHALES! WWWWWHHHHHAAAAALLLLLEEEEESSSSS!

zahn is easily the best writer for star wars books

@@tomascbonez6355 Drew Karpyshyn : Am I a joke to you?

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@Lexington73300 Ofc he did. It's his brain child. But he has no say in how Disney writes his chracter, and you'll notice the big difference between his portrayal in Rebels and the canon novels.

@@Zr0g_Schwifty Favro had nothing to do with Rebels, that was all Filoni. Though personally I think based on his work on Clone Wars and Mando that he was being hamstrung by Disney’s Story Group. After all the member Pablo Hidalgo is affiliated with Rebels a lot

Actually he is described in the books as having such pupils. Only artistic renders showed him otherwise. So I understand the choice.

@@The31stcenturyfox did they? They described his eyes as glowing (which is a key feature not shown in Rebels) but that’s all I remember. I believe the reasoning is to make it easier for the audience to see where he’s looking and make an emotional connection... which is the exact opposite of the intent of his original design, lol.

@@Mayakran the eyes glowed, but the pupils were a dark red if I recall. Something rarely shown in artistic renditions at the time. They preferred to show a full red glowing eyes and no pupils. I only know this cause a girl in high school I lent the thrawn books got a major crush on him and read everything in detail so she could recreate him to her best of the ability, when she told me this I baulked and had your reaction since I'd seen the artwork and assumed, but she showed me a line in the books describing his eyes so hence I'll tell you.

@@The31stcenturyfox lol I appreciate it. A crush on Thrawn... huh. I mean I suppose I’m one to talk since I have a bit of whatever you’d call the female equivalent of a mancrush, myself, but I’m also kind of an odd duck (big military history nerd, grew up watching submarine movies, really dig the “competent gentleman commander” as a narrative device, wanted to join the navy at one point, etc). I guess it just didn’t occur to me that a 60+ military commander might catch the eye of a high schooler, lol.

makes me dislike Disney even more tbh

It's really disappointing how executive decisions can affect a fan favorite. But I'm glad that the canon books do keep Thrawn as is.

@@WHOARETHEPATRIOTS475 Frankly, why? Star Wars, at its core, has been classical Disney material: damsels in distress, knights and charming rogues setting out to rescue them and fight the evil sorceror king/emperor and his black knight.

@@ohauss they took an amazingly nuanced and well written character and made him just an exceptionally smart but otherwise typical bad guy. I understand and completely agree with Yankee

That's not Legends, that's from the first of the new Thrawn trilogy released within the new Disney Canon.

@@Comintern1919 huh, thought it was older comic but it's still fitting with legends Thrawn, focusing on the overall objective instead of petty personally matters.

@@ItsAVolcano Well, there is a comic adaption of the first Book, but since the Book is canon so is the Comic. And you are right, Zahn specifically wrote at least the first book in a away that doesn't contradict his old Legends Books. Though the other two new Novels do contradict his Legends works, at least in some ways.

@@Comintern1919 Hey bro i just finished the first thrawn canon book, should i read alliances and treason or they are bad?

@@joaopedrobatistadesouza4428 they’re good

"I hold all the cards, Captain Syndula. There is nothing you can do that I have not already anticipated" "Well, I summon Exodia! Draw four, Admiral. And that's Uno!" "What... how... We're not... I didn't mean... This is why I don't associate with you rebels!"

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@MX 3 I agree but it also shows that Thrawn and his mindset is about correction and learning. If you have someone who doesn’t want to see correction or learn, aka the above example or the example within Rebels where factory is being sabotaged, there then remains only one solution to the problem. Get rid of the problem.

I would argue in his eyes he needed to.

@@OrDuneStudios I don’t know what you mean, as in Thrawn had to kill the worker because it was right in his eyes? Or do you mean he needed to do it in order to keep up his own image of how he saw himself? Either way again I think the killing of the worker on Lothal and the killing of the tracker beam specialist was him doing something logical not emotional. Thrawn said attitude on things is never really emotional. He of course has emotions and if you’ve read the books, he does get annoyed, angry, etc. His actions however are always calculating, always serving a purpose. Which is why I tie it into his own statement about errors and mistakes. If no one can admit error then there’s no room to work with that purpose, the worker is not going to stop being a rebel and halt sabotaging things just because the errors have been pointed out to him. No he’s going to keep doing it and thus excess fat in the system that is doing more harm than good. Trim the fat and the body is more efficient. Kill the worker and the production sabotage stops.

I would also like to add another incident that also takes into the Legend Trilogy (I’m rereading them). In Dark Force Rising in chapters 13 and 16 you have Grand Admiral Thrawn (at the end of chapter 16) have no qualms about killing Khabarakh, a Noghri, for an apparent betrayal to the Empire. The Admirals words to Captain Pellaeon when Thrawn changes the plan for Khabarakh to be placed under prison and interrogation aboard the Chimaera, “...Khabarakh may still serve the Empire by dying painfully. As an object lesson to his race.” (Page 242, Chapter 16, Dark Force Rising) This again proves my point that anyone who knows Thrawn understands that he does kill or have people killed in cold calculated times like the Lothal factory and the crew member aboard the Chimaera in Heir ToThe Empire. Such killings are done when believed there is no longer an avenue of correction. Does he need to kill Khabarakh? No. Killing him is going to turn the Noghri against Thrawn and over to the New Republic, as Leia was hoping for. Killing the tractor beam operator isn’t necessary, especially since the Empire is low on people, especially Stormtroopers as pointed out in the novel. He could have easily been reassigned to a crappy nonessential duty position, cleaning refreshers. Killing the Lothal workers wasn’t really necessary, sending them off to an Imperial prison would just be equally effective. But that isn’t Thrawns style. He doesn’t hesitate to teach and correct. If killing someone corrects inefficient behaviours of others than so be it, there’s always a grand purpose to it. Unlike Vader of course who kills anyone simply because he got angry or that they failed, said or did something that displeased him.

Exactly. Even if you think that Thrawn "had to send a message" in this instance, it was still classic Empire to KILL the operator. He could've simply discarded him or demoted him into a non-technical field. Killing him was sending a message. It doesn't matter that, "To Thrawn" it was necessary. That's the point of alignment, it's DESCRIPTIVE, not PRESCRIPTIVE. You don't get to change the description just because you want to be the hero. And Thrawn is smart enough to know the distinction. He isn't trying to be a hero. He's being a military leader. And if that means using fear. Well, he's very much aware the Empire was built on enforcing fear. It's a tool, to establish order. Classic Lawful Neutral.

Yes. He was willing to provide those educational moments and give leniency for imperials that were willing to learn. The ones that refused to think outside the box, or the ones that let their egos lead them, those were the few times we actually see Thrawn angry or kill his own people--probably to send a message. In that regard, I think that the portrayal in Rebels was actually pretty good.

It was necessary. At least with Thrawn, he gives you a second chance. Vader does not. Vader will kill outright."Failure is unacceptable."

@@CHRF-55457 Did you not see the movies? That one admiral in episode 5 he gave 2 or 3 chances before he choked him to death

@@doe6974 Oswel is clumsy as he is stupid. He questions Vader's decisions, he doesn't want to correct his errors. Heck he didn't even see his errors. He brought the ship too close to Hoth thinking that surprise would scare the rebels into surrender. In turn, prompting them to raise the base shield, forcing Vader to waste time for a ground assault. And Oswel thinks that he's done a fabulous job. (You've been chasing the rebel scum for 2 years, and you think that doing a surprise "I'm here!" is gonna scare them into submission? 😡😠😡)

That’s legends thrawn canon thrawn is a much nicer person In general

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No doubt, lawful neutral

@@dragonusprime4092 my thoughts exactly. Haha Plus, same color as them too. Haha

Lawful neutral was my thought as well. He's not sadistic, and he does some good things... but he does some bad things too, and at the bottom line, he actively supports a system that is pretty clearly Lawful Evil on multiple levels. A genuinely LG character would, at the very least, become a kind of 'loyal opposition' in that environment: trying to change it for the better from the inside via peaceful means, if not via more forceful means. Thrawn seems to be perfectly content with the Empire being what it is as long as it's stable and as long as those he cares about aren't the ones who are getting hurt. That's pretty much classic LN. He's a representative of Imperial officers who may not strictly be evil themselves, but still implicitly accept it.

@@Draxynnic a lawful good character (Leia, Mon Mothma) would and could absolutely oppose the Empire without being loyal opposition (even though they spent time in loyal opposition). Being LG doesn't mean that you support an evil system blindly.

Well most of those people were also Nazis and were very much on board with the Holocaust. The regular German military was very closely involved in the Holocaust and refusing genocidal orders was extremely rare for these officers.

@Darth Xen SHow me a government that is not imperialistic.. Every human government since the dawn of humanity works the same.

@@steezburger609 dude, you´re just wrong, greetings from germany

@@steezburger609 "The regular German military" was highly diverse. And let's not forget that the rank and file near the end of the war was composed of young people who had spent much of their "education" under Nazi indoctrination. The Nazis didn't come to power in 1939, let alone in 41, but in 33. Primal Guy specifically referred to older Prussian-style officers, however. . "The regular German military" has little relevance to "older Prussian-style officers".Several of them were demissioned before '39 in disagreements with Hitler. Others joined the military resistance, some sooner, some later. Others supported Hitler to the end Many were perfectly fine with a war of expansionist aggression, but considered Hitler's way to go about it haphazard and dangerous. Others were already appalled by the lawlessness of the "Night of long knives". And the point Primal_Guy wanted to make, I think, is that even if they did not support every policy, inasmuch as they were part of the machinery, they share in the responsibility.

@@steezburger609 the military was the source of the numerous (14 confirmed, 41 rumored) assassination attempts on Hitler. True, there were a lot of men who were “on board,” but there was a great deal of tension between the old, aristocratic leadership, and the “upstart” Nazis (not to mention the fact that the Nazis invented their own military branch in the Waffen SS and that didn’t sit well with the old command).

The new thrawn trilogy made me fall in love with thrawn as a character, the idea of someone who is so powerful because of how smart he is and also how misunderstood he is by everyone is so interesting. He calculates everything and the callbacks that get made to earlier decisions are very satisfying.

Couldn’t agree more -that distinctive calm voice is classic.

Marc Thompson is his name, and he narrates a ton of Star Wars audiobooks. His narration is so good I have a hard time listening to anyone else lol

Hes a grand admiral lol

@@joekush9095 Do you realize that Grand Admiral is an officers Rank in the Imperial Navy?

@@thedoctorss69 I don't really know how navy ranking goes so my bad

That is true, but in the books he never lost his temper. Ever. He was always cool, calm, and collected, even when his bodyguard turned on him and literally murdered him. Disney Thrawn loses his temper over some art (I know he loves his art, but legends Thrawn would never lose his temper over something so trivial as some ignorant, mediocre imp insulting a piece of art. That is trivial, and Thrawn is anything but.

Not so much "minor error" as "trying to pass the blame".

50 shades of grey to be prosaic.

a lot of things is a much better outside rebels...

@@badgamemaster the sad thing is that it's a kid's show. Due to the various perceptions and stigmas, you are severely limited at what you can and can't do...

Whose your favorite

@@Jack-sp8nw fives.

You have good taste in characters.

Second?

@@coreyeverett5500 maybe second to prequels palpatine, but not to OT palpatine...

Better question is who doesn't

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It would have to be some sort of frontier conflict, kinda like the American Indian Wars. Maybe they could bring back the Vong, or some other barbarians.

@@konstantinosnikolakakis8125 The grysks are the substitute for the vong

Oh so it was the Rebels who blew up Alderaan.

@@stormhawk4277 They made the mining accident inevitable.

@Stormhawk 427 The empire might’ve sacrificed Alderan, but it was the rebels who blew up 2 whole death stars. Three including starkiller bass if you want to get technical. So who are the real terrorists????

@@therealdaredevil7504 Both.

@@therealdaredevil7504 The rebels are the reason Ewoks are extinct.

But promoted the other one who also failed but actually tried something clever.

@@thrawncaedusl717 Yeah but it shows that Thrawn is not above doing cruel things-its just not something he does for the sake of it like Sith lords or Tarkin. He prefers to do things with as little bloodshed and as little inefficiency as possible.

@DeadNinjutsu I know that's my point. Thrawn isn't cruel for the sake of cruelty. He is methodical. If he does something cruel-he has a good rational reason for it-even if its something morally wrong.

@@shadowthehedgehog3113 he’s cruel but fair

reason for it was trying to throw blame onto another.

Rebels pretty much did that.

@@lkvideos7181 Certain character depth was lost, but he still sticks out, as there is no one like him in Star Wars anyway. Besides, Thrawn will likely become better in other media not so suited to young children.

​@@iamyuheismi920 I felt like Rebels even dumbed him down in terms of strategic prowess. Like he did nothing extraordinary, just seemed more competent than your avarage imperial officer. Which could apply to any of the 12 Grand Admirals. In the new novels Thrawn stands out because he is pretty much genius level tactician and constantly gives great off the cuff advice to his allies.

Yes, please don’t give us “creepy blue Moff Gideon 2.0”

Yeah the rebels version was a bit meh but the three canon novels set in the rebels univers are incredible and bring back the old thrawn

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his specialty is Space tactics, so maybe of the fleet. I would leave ground forces to veers.

@@biggsdarklighter0473 fair

@DeadNinjutsu true, but I was making a different observation. He gains "humanity" (to the reader) as the trilogy progresses. Before we even meet him, his seasoned underlings know that he isn't merely cruel, just a demanding commander; he gains a reputation to those on the outside because they're observing from the outside. And I would argue that he allows that reputation to flourish because it benefits him in Palatine's empire. And it continues to benefit him from a Machiavellian sense when he ascends to control the Remnant. It's better to rule by fear, as they say, but the reality is that he manages to rule by both love AND fear in the appropriate circumstances. His troops grow to love him and are fiercely loyal because he does not throw their lives away needlessly. He WILL make the hard choices. He WILL sacrifice them. But he WILL NOT do so needlessly and because of his skill, their sacrifices would not be in vain. Thrawn is the paragon embodiment of command.

Totally. I remember reading the first chapter of the episode III novelization, that one paragraph where Matthew Stern decribes Grievous as an actual and ruthless monster, then seeing that portrayed flawlessly by Tartakovsky in his cartoon... and then seeing Grievous reduced to a comic relief element by Filoni. I really respect Filoni... but he seems to have some problems handling villains from time to time.

@@peskymacaw9033 TCW Grievous may not have been as capable of his Legends counterpart, but to call him "comic relief" when he was still portrayed as a genuine threat at times with notable kills under his belt even as early as Season 1 is completely untrue. His TCW self is also more in line with how Lucas presented him in Revenge of the Sith, wherein Windu makes his track record apparent by describing him as a coward who runs and hides and making him too capable when he had several run-ins with Obi-Wan would've been inconsistent towards their dialogue and duel in Episode III. The element where Filoni fails with his character isn't his battle capabilities, but with his depth and motivations. Grievous was, from his inception, meant to be a proto-Vader of sorts in his appearance/bodily flaws and the tragic elements of his Legends backstory reflect this with his lost love interest. Filoni Grievous, meanwhile, is a one-dimensional villain who only wants to become stronger.

@@peskymacaw9033 I believe George Lucas is primarily responsible for the way General Grievous was characterized. George essentially said he wanted him to represent the classic Saturday cartoon villain, and describes him as someone who at his core, is a coward. This characterization also matches up better with his movie appearance and that is why he is portrayed differently than the 2003 series. While Filoni is responsible for a lot of the clone wars, I feel George’s involvement and the fact that he created the show is often overlooked.

Even Darth Vader is more interesting and complex in Legends that the New Canon. He cares about his men, even befriends one Imperial Officer who's not a complete ass like most of them are and even objects to slavery once or twice.

@@fireblaze1580 I do not only mean the 2003 version. He was a very good character in all his legends books and comics. Literally in every single media besides clone wars and ep3. Now in canon media (he doesn’t get anything new at all sadly) it’s also shit. They completely ruined this character that could even have a movie or series dedicated to his backstory that would definitely be so successful if done right cuz he was well written once.

He work for the Empire, you know one ruled by a Megalomaniac Sith as an Admiral...it's not a position for nice or good person, being a sociopathic bastard seem one of the job necessity

From a certain point of view. Thrawn was a "big picture" individual. If working for the Empire meant the survival or betterment of the Chiss he would do it. Main reason he didnt side with the Rebellion or New Republic, in the EU, was they were too inefficient and decentralized. The Empire, despite its many faults, was not that. Plus Thrawn went out of his way to use only enough force as was neccessary to end a conflict swiftly

@@erieperry8241 and it show how much a big idiot was; honestly the Empire will have not lasted 6 months against the Vong under Palpy and Vader as it was a mass of incompetent, backstabbing, fearfull and ill trained mooks and the bulk of the budget go to superduper megaweapons...that a single starfighter destroy. Really just that will have made understand how idiotic was Palpy.

@@lukedalton But Thrawn is very much not a sociopathic bastard, nor is every single Imperial Officer or higher Rank, neither in Legends nor in the new Canon. I recommend the new Thrawn Trilogy by Zahn, the original creator of Thrawn. They are Canon and show a much deeper side to Thrawns Character.

Fortunately Theawn had his own empire in the Unknown Regions, the Empire of the Hand. Plus when he came bck to the Empire, the Remnant had little choice but to follow him and his style of command if they wanted to keep their power and/or stay alive. Thrawn saw the Empire as a resource to use against the Vong rather then a true believer.

Idk, judging from what we have, he'll most likely end up in the Ahsoka series and that's Filoni.

@Samuel McNair tbf Lucas did that himself with rots... Filoni could have redeemed him. But he's done better with Thrawn.

An anti-villain is a term for a villain who is like an anti-hero’s alternate.

@@hellfire286 In other words, another tortured soul in need of professional counseling..... I get it 😉👍

Antihero has hero like goals but sometimes has immoral means to get there. Anti-villain is someone that does morally correct actions but sometimes not for the right reasons.

@@hightower2141 I think it’s more of the other way around

I think in dnd terms thrawn would lawful neutral

Probably will happen the same thing, the First Order are very generic villain you can change it with the Vong and basically the story is the same

When?

@@paulinak8124 if I remember correctly in “heir to the empire” Thrawn didn’t kill him directly, but had Ruhk kill him instead

@@knightwolf1866 OK, thanks. Now I remember.

@@knightwolf1866 Thrawn had him killed not because he made a mistake but because he tried to pass the blame and say oh I wasn't taught correctly. As Thrawn accurately said An error becomes a mistake only when you refuse to correct it. And I can see why he did it. That kind of arrogance is very dangerous to have in a battle situation and has the potential to get everyone else killed. Granted I probably would have just kicked him out but I can understand why Thrawn did what he did. There is NO I in Team.

@@chrishess5526 thank you for the clarification It had been a little while since I had read those books

In the books is more Gary Tzu due to him being Zhan favorite; rebels make him a more credible character

Come on, no Sun Tzu. He is trivial. Rather Clausewitz

He did that because Palpatine threatened him with death for his lack of loyality to the Empire.

And to be fair from the Empire’s perspective, the Rebels were terrorists. They disrupted communications and transport while smuggling in contraband.

@@justinpachi3707 On the other hand the empire is basically destroying their planet to extract resources and use the population as slave labor, but one must also consider that bully really really take it personal when someone fight back

@@darkwolf4434 Nobody forced him to join the Empire or to remain on the Empire armed forces...receiving death threat by your boss (if he is a Sith or Tarkin or someone else) it's just a perk of the job in the Galactic Empire

@@justinpachi3707 Yeah, but he also argued that he joined the Empire in order to stand against the Grysk.

It was also to weed out whoever was sabotaging the bikes, you won't sabotage what you have to use.

@@FallenRingbearer Thrawn didn't kill the rebel he merely assisted in that rebels suicide

Maybe he would look for allies who could fight the Grysks

I would love if the Chimaera ended up in Chiss space and was found by Eli…. I think him and Ezra would become friends, and Eli would give Ezra a whole new perspective on Thrawn. When Ezra called the space whales he said that he was called by the Force to do so… maybe he was meant to end up in the Unknown Regions. I would love to see Ezra end up allied with the Chiss to battle the Grysk, and see Ezra convince Ahsoka and the others to help out. Thrawn getting a “redemption” arc (more like reframing) wouldn’t be outside the realm of normal for Star Wars - if Vader and Ren can get a redemption arc anyone can. Plus in Rebels the Lasat still accepted Kallus even though he was directly involved with massacring their people - the Skywalker Saga was so focused on light and dark, I would like to see the new stuff focus more on the nuance and grey areas.

To be fair things were never really "good" in the galaxy. The Republic can be argued as evil and as can the Empire. They can also both be argued as good. Nothing and no one are ultimately good or bad.

@@river7757 True, even the Rebels and Jedi were a lot less noble than they appear in the films.

@@river7757 True. Although I feel like groups such as the Empire and the Hutts monopolized much of the evil. The Republic and Jedi were "bad" mainly due to ignorance or turning a blind eye to the damage they caused. I suppose it depends on which sort of "evil" you would want to live under: Incompetent leadership and ignorance(Republic/Jedi) or crippling order(Empire/Sith). Or if there is another option that hasn't been explored yet.

@@awakenow7147 Very true. In my opinion no group should be allowed to reign over a galaxy of people. Inevitably any group to rule over a galaxy would have massive amounts of corruption. To be fair I have no idea or solution to *not* having an overarching government. Linking the planets would be problematic with out a government such as that, but I'm not a politician so someone else can come up with a solution.

@@river7757 Yeah good point. A galactic republic is kind of a strange idea. Even a supposed republic like the U.S. has big problems...and we're just a single landmass.

Well yes he killed his own troops how ever that person had made the same mistake a few times before he had Ruhk kill them

@@georgejones9526 No, it was someone that messed up badly enough to damage his own ship once out of lazy stupidity; when Luke broke a Tractor Beam lock and launched a Proton Torpedo to be caught in his place before escaping, the moron didn't confirm what he was locked on to before pulling the armed warhead into the ship. A moment to confirm things would have avoided serious damage and saved his life, but the incident was the first time said idiot came under Thrawn's direct notice.

@@Jacen32272 really I'm sure it happened twice, I must of misremembered things it's been a while since I last read the Thrawn trilogy

@@georgejones9526 There was a second incident where Luke escaped a Tractor Beam Lock. and Thrawn went down to investigate the operator in the third book. However, the one killed was in the first book; the second time, Luke used what was essentially a chaff cloud to break the lock, and the operator tried (and failed) to clear the chaff using the tractor beam to push it out of the way. Thrawn had him promoted on the spot for his initiative, because it was better to do something then nothing, and because he at least tried instead of just being lazy like the dead man.

Seeing the Empire of the Hand would certainly be a treat.

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He kinda is. I think people have a bit of an overly rosy colored view of Thrawn. The idea that ANY iteration of Thrawn is lawful GOOD is laughable. Thrawn is at best lawful neutral. Being an admiral in the Empire alone means you're not the "good guy". Thrawn has also committed atrocities too. He is just not as cruel and vindictive as most imperials (especially Tarkin) and prefers not to kill but will not hesitate to do so if its necessary for the stability of the Empire. In Rebels though-many seem to think he was portrayed as a cartoonish villain but I disagree. He was nowhere near as evil as most of the imperials the Rebels dealt with. He was the main antagonist because he was so strategically intelligent and was able to best the rebels when other incompetent Moffs and commanders got clowned on by them. When Thrawn came in-you knew shit was gonna get serious.

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