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Three Jungians on Psychedelics: Is Tripping a Valid Path of Self-Discovery? 

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How can combining psychedelics and Jungian psychology enhance our understanding of psyche?
Psychedelics may help us access deep layers of the unconscious, revealing aspects of psyche that are often inaccessible through traditional psychoanalytic methods alone. Jungian analysis, with its focus on archetypes and the collective unconscious, provides a framework for interpreting and integrating the complex, symbolic experiences often encountered in psychedelic states. The combination of psychedelics and analysis could facilitate a more profound and holistic healing process, addressing not only individual psychological issues but also connecting with broader, universal aspects of human experience. This integrated approach could accelerate the therapeutic process, allowing for quicker breakthroughs and more profound insights than can be achieved through either method independently.
Prepare to discover which of the TJL hosts tripped their balls off in their twenties, whether psychedelics can guarantee illumination, when we should be cautious about ayahuasca, why psychedelics may facilitate psychological change, what kind of attitude we should cultivate when approaching psilocybin, how to interpret hallucinations brought on by plant medicine, who should avoid cannabis, where miraculous claims are exaggerated and so much more…
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@singingheartjewelry
@singingheartjewelry 5 месяцев назад
I studied mushrooms for a year before I took my "trip". I did it with only healing in mind, and followed a type of ritual for myself. I had a sitter, and I had made my intentions clear for a year. I wasn't specific, but I asked for inner healing. The experience was amazing, and it was only after a couple of months that my husband said something about my PTSD nightmares, which I've had since my teenage years (I was about 55 at the time of taking mushrooms). I had approximately one to two nightmares a month, in which I would wake up screaming. My mushroom experience was about 6 years ago now, and I have not had one of those PTSD nightmares since the day I took them.
@jeffwhite2511
@jeffwhite2511 5 месяцев назад
Psychotic breaks and 'bad trips' also happen with so-called evidence based drugs used to 'treat'' with mental health challenges. It happened to me after a psychiatrist spent a whole ten minutes with me and prescribed a powerful dosage of an anti-depressant that landed me in hospital for 8 weeks. Now I would trust psilopsybin over psychiatry any day of the week and I work in mental health. Psychadelics with the right set and setting expands your mind, while psychiatry shrinks your entire life.
@Csio12
@Csio12 3 месяца назад
Im so sorry u suffered at psychiatric hands. You migh find Prof Doctor Peter Gotzsche interesting and supportive. He blew the whistle on Cochrane Institute and psyche meds. On utube.
@greencare9702
@greencare9702 5 месяцев назад
Hey Lisa, although I respect your opinion about marijuana, it is important for me to tell you that after years of dealing with psychogenic epilepsy and somatization, I discovered this plant and it is a valuable remedy for me. Knowledge has its limits when it comes to sacred plants and how they can change our lives, and that's because we don't honor them in our culture. I also want to emphasize the fact that in the USA there are types of marijuana that are so concentrated, that the normal result is to increase the episodes of psychosis, we in Europe do not have these variations that contain an extremely high amount of THC. Apparently, in the land of the free, the greatest excesses take place.... Today we trust more in the pharmaceutical industry and the expertise of specialists, but I believe that we all have an inner healer and no one can guide us better than this benevolent force from the subconscious, the human relationship with this plant is ancestral, and the beneficial properties are countless. I think that things are more nuanced than we sometimes express in words, there are all kinds of biases, but it is important to become aware of them and perhaps to research a certain topic with more curiosity and openness.
@MyoWorksABQ
@MyoWorksABQ 5 месяцев назад
Totally agree, most all marijuana consumed in the US today has been highly engineered in labs to have extremely high THC that is not found in the plant naturally. Also many other chemical compounds in the form of pesticides are now found. I believe these two factors are contributing to the higher incidence of psychotic episodes related to cannabis use. Cannabis cannot be considered a natural plant anymore.
@ResurgentVoice
@ResurgentVoice 5 месяцев назад
Wow! I think this counts as a synchronicity for me. Jospeh, what you said starting around 42:47 was exactly my experience! I am an INFP (but I’ve had to live my life suppressing my Feeling side and very much live in my head thinking and overthinking. I have C-PTSD from childhood trauma. I’ve been working with a therapist for years, but I’ve struggled to get passed my deep, deep self-loathing. I finally decided to try mushrooms at a low introductory dosage along with a guide. We took it very seriously and did a ritual at the beginning. I bathed in salt water, we burned sage and I wrote my intentions in a journal. We meditated and prayed for it to help heal me and to learn to love and accept myself as I am. I knew I wasn’t taking a heroic dose so I was prepared to not talk to entities or anything like that, but I thought I would at least see geometric shapes or trails or something. A friend had said trees talked to her when she did them so I kind of was hoping for that. But I got nothing. I had a warm relaxed feeling all over my body and a childlike fascination with things like rain drops on the leaves of a plant. I was just so childlike and my emotions were on my sleeve, so when a certain song came on that had a lot of emotional resonance for me, I just started bawling without worrying about showing my emotions. I laughed and laughed, but really I didn’t have any visuals or hallucinations of any kind. Time seemed slower and I had a warm relaxed feeling and I felt childlike. That was it. So when you said that psychedelics kind of bring out people’s inferior functions, I think that’s exactly what happened to me. All the intellectual walls that I keep up around me kind of just came down for a bit. I tend to be hyper vigilant, hyper responsible, and always tense and stressed out. So what I got was a taste of relaxation and childlike joy! I was wondering why I didn’t have more visuals and more of an “experience” like everyone else that I’d talked with had. Thank you so much for this episode and putting your idea about this out there! It was the answer I needed! 🙏💕
@windham222
@windham222 4 месяца назад
you prob need to do more to have that kind of exp. Still if you dedicate a moment to sit/lay with eyes closed you will def see fractals or other imagery regardless of dosage (CEV's or closed eye visuals).
@_Erendis
@_Erendis 4 месяца назад
That sounds EXACTLY like my own experience with psychedelics, and I am also an INFP with childhood trauma!
@heath3546
@heath3546 5 месяцев назад
The psychedelic Journey, if accepted is the heroes journey
@tonyp8159
@tonyp8159 Месяц назад
Yes, sometimes. It can also be the healer's journey or the fool's journey.
@DaeEss1Drea
@DaeEss1Drea 5 месяцев назад
Glad to hear the Jungian perspective on psychedelics. To be clear, Matthew Perry did not die of ketamine toxicity as you mentioned. I have read the entire coroner’s autopsy report. He had multiple substances in his system before he went into a hot tub. The amount of ketamine he had in his system was due to taking it out of the clinical setting, ie not doctor prescribed, which led him to lose consciousness and thus drown in the hot tub.
@Lemoncare
@Lemoncare 5 месяцев назад
That is drowning due to consumption of KETAMINE. There is no sugar coating it. 9 million dollar and 15 rehabs. A mother wound, and neglect. America can’t heal anyone ! It’s all a fraud, the diseasing is no mom/no me. A destroyed unit. Nothing cures a mother wound.
@TheMedWolf
@TheMedWolf 5 месяцев назад
Happens with mixing water with good ol ethyl alcohol all the time, but that wouldn’t make for as exciting news.
@CurlyQ340
@CurlyQ340 5 месяцев назад
My awareness of the numinous grew by magnitudes after LSD. In just a few words, I became a cracked vessel - a vessel that had been holding onto to emotional trauma tightly, until the acid took hold. I do not recommend LSD because the weight of the experience was so great. I don’t want to be responsible if another person becomes a cracked vessel because of my recommendation. But what I learned that night changed my life: that there is potency in each little act we perform; that knowing God involves knowing your own strength; and that life can joyfully surprise us and be lived in a way that honors our ancestors/place in the human family.
@ryankphd
@ryankphd 5 месяцев назад
that is beautiful, I can almost vicariously sense what you experienced in your description of the numinous... thanks for sharing.
@Csio12
@Csio12 3 месяца назад
I could listen to joseph for days. What a therapeutic voice. So gentle deep calming. The most beautiful voice ive ever heard in my 62yrs on earth. Truly i listen to thousands but his the best.
@kristinabliss
@kristinabliss 5 месяцев назад
Anything can trigger psychosis in someone who is already on the brink. Even a relationship gone awry can do that.
@kristinabliss
@kristinabliss 5 месяцев назад
One could just as easily say, "Relationships are associated with psychotic breaks." 😳
@Seraphim6083
@Seraphim6083 5 месяцев назад
It is a matter of degree.
@detodounpoco37
@detodounpoco37 3 месяца назад
Everything is self-knowledge. Conscious consumption is fundamental. If not, sobriety is the healthy approach.
@joshualennox3599
@joshualennox3599 5 месяцев назад
I just realized the other day how much your spinning logo looks like a slice of San Pedro. I hope it’s mentioned
@heath3546
@heath3546 5 месяцев назад
The psychedelics provide the portal back to the garden of Eden, which we were thrown out of as our ego structure was created.
@mightytaiger3000
@mightytaiger3000 5 месяцев назад
lol is that right…
@jesuspense
@jesuspense 5 месяцев назад
Nice clickbait title! Of course tripping is a valid path of self-discovery. Great episode, thank you.
@petrapewpew
@petrapewpew 5 месяцев назад
Re: Rick's scholarship on Eleusis-Read 'The Immortality Key' by Brian Muraresku. He picks up where Ruck left off on his search and even has a cameo in the book in accompanying Muraresku to a site linked to the Mysteries in, I think, Catalonia (memory might be failing me here).
@sandyhubbard6087
@sandyhubbard6087 5 месяцев назад
It was heart warming to listen to your authentic excitement about this highly relevant topic. This subject seemed to catch your imaginations. Thank you for covering it so broadly and openly. The alignment with Jungian thought and experience, the potential for healing and self knowledge and the safety around psychedelics was most helpful. Perhaps a follow up podcast on psychedelics in the future?
@ChriseldaPhoenix
@ChriseldaPhoenix 5 месяцев назад
Joseph... you're awesome LOL! When I turned 40, myself and some friends went to Portland and rented a beautiful home on the Sandy River. We parachuted some very high grade molly, 4 grams of mushrooms and smoked some super high quality sativa. I WILL TELL YOU... that was one of the best experiences of my life. It showed me that I wasn't scared of surrender and trusted my inner compass of knowing. Another friend was the opposite. She stayed on the couch terrified for hours. Doing this kind of thing can be dangerous for many reasons, but it also shows you how connected or disconnected one is to their own unconscious... their own AUTHENTICITY. The first time I did mushrooms, I did 7 grams and boy... did I go home. It was tremendous. I connected what my soul knew and brought it forward into my conscious awareness. Since then, I have helped facilitate people's journey's.
@xyz-bj8zv
@xyz-bj8zv 5 месяцев назад
let Deb talk!
@clh37204
@clh37204 5 месяцев назад
Deb seemed the most leery (pun?) of the three about psychedelics. I'm guessing she was the one who had not had any psychedelic experiences. She conceded that it might be okay provided that it was conducted in a careful, ritualistic way, but not "just out of casual curiosity". I was glad that she spoke less and instead appeared to listen and learn. And I was very glad Joseph, clearly the most "experienced", provided counterbalance with his more Prankster-ish "tripping balls" attitude! Very interesting episode, thanks!
@heath3546
@heath3546 5 месяцев назад
It was said during the podcast that Matt Perry died of casual use a Ketamine. That’s not correct. He abused ketamine at extremely higher levels, and create a toxicity which can be created with most chemical if you ingest. The addiction he had complicated things with poor judgment and impairment. . Ketamine is the most effective approach to suicidal ideation with a reduction effective rate of nearly 90% in emergency room interventions LSD matches the ergot plant and Ketamine, There’s a fungus that produces it natural in the environment. Synthesized molecules from Stars that went supernova and the big bang are the ingredients. That seems like natural ingredients. :). Seems pretty obvious that nature left many different portals to access the space for a reason Plants. Frogs. Fish. Mushrooms. Cactus ..,
@InfiniT0171
@InfiniT0171 5 месяцев назад
Wow, love to see a video on this topic from you guys! ❤️
@Wishaal-ej3kb
@Wishaal-ej3kb 5 месяцев назад
Fantastic episode!! Thank you for this
@celt456
@celt456 5 месяцев назад
This is such a fascinating conversation. Many thanks.
@ant_ace
@ant_ace 4 месяца назад
The three of you are amazing! What a great episode
@kristinabliss
@kristinabliss 5 месяцев назад
Excellent discussion. Thank you all.
@stephenosika2038
@stephenosika2038 5 месяцев назад
Finally! I’ve been waiting for you guys to make an episode about psychedelics. Definitely a very under-discussed topic in the Jungian sphere
@aineduffy1006
@aineduffy1006 5 месяцев назад
Have any of ye or the audience seen Terence Mc Kenna's lecture to the Jung Society, Mc Kenna is vital reading on psilocybin.
@mightytaiger3000
@mightytaiger3000 5 месяцев назад
I have. Terence was primordial in my learning about psychedelics. Don’t think I would have ever given them the time of day without a lot of the thoughts and questions presented by him.
@lfc25
@lfc25 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for a great topic. Psychedelics with right set and setting kicks you out of being stuck in different ways for it's best and worst. And then you need to figure out where to settle. It's a life changer and eye opener. Be respectful for plant medicine and use it as a tool not escape from reality. We need more open-heart souls in this world 💚
@erica2105
@erica2105 5 месяцев назад
I loved this episode, thank you for discussing this topic so gently. I have experience with psilocybin, peyote and salvia divinorum, always in a ceremonial context. Each encounter of communion with these entities was healing and constructive for me. At the same time, I saw people loose the sense of "this" reality and fall into a situation where they become dysfunctional in everyday life for a certain amount of time. Eventually, they may have healed and made this experience precious to them, I do not know how it all eneded.
@paulwilkinson7144
@paulwilkinson7144 5 месяцев назад
Very pleasent and informative three way discussion about very important thoughts. More like this please.
@EarInn
@EarInn 5 месяцев назад
A really good episode, one I'll listen to again.
@gwendolynmurphy9563
@gwendolynmurphy9563 5 месяцев назад
I'm resonating with Joseph's comments on setting, intention, etc. I've done enough psychedelics to agree because of my direct experience, none of which was, obviously, fatal. Good times, bad times. Never had a "bad trip." Here's a reference: a book titled "Fantastic Fungi: How Mushroomss Can Heal, Shift Consciousness & Save the Planet." Editor and Contributor Paul Stamets. Page 160 is the chapter Spotlight on Meditation and Psilocybin written by Vanja Palmers who believes "that mushrooms are like our older planetary brothers and sisters. . . . saying to take care of our environment and this planet."
@lizafield9002
@lizafield9002 5 месяцев назад
Had same thoughts after reading Pollan's brain book. Our culture (we) train(s) a kid/adult like a dog forced incessantly into one neurotic brain track, no dream-time, no vision time, no night sky, stars & darkness, no group singing, storytelling, no wandering & freeing the unconscious. It's all central default network of "me," which he calls the "chattering neurotic." It's a stress machine, imprisoning, alienated & alienating. Social media reinforces it 18/7/365. "Look at meeee. What about meee." Plato/Socrates knew the mind had to be freed from that me cave, & thought education should do this & focus on a vaster non-me reality/ identity, & Aristotle included an early study of Phusis (sp) or nature/physical cosmos, trees, fish, astronomy, animals, to free the brain from self interest. Imagine! We'd have stopped heating the atmosphere if it were real to or part of us, today. When 20/30 (etc) yr olds talk of burnout, & rightly seek escape, it seems a result of our system lopping out nature, night sky, dream time, campfires, poetry, prayer, communion of any sort, AND an advertised illusion of Instant Holy Grail relief/vision/eu-phoria. The bahgavad Gita (sp) would say, "on effort/service alone be thy mind, never its results." We offer the young money (result) but not serving or work as a value in itself, because they're being used for money, not the common greater good. Americans, having lost community, extended family, nature, sense of "place," have lost our common Scout like serve others freedom, especially in bondage to "market" as identity, purpose, "patriot-ism." When Market was pushed as our "original" government, and "Freedom" came to mean "the individual" ethics- devoid profiteering as a national (even a Christian) purpose, people became trapped in that brain part. Not "free." No wonder the Steve Bannons & Ralph Reed's & Koch Machine are obsessed with Freedom. They have none.
@theorywavenights8117
@theorywavenights8117 3 месяца назад
Excellent conversation!
@wendyshifflet3477
@wendyshifflet3477 5 месяцев назад
This episode was gold. So many insightful points. Any recommendations on a book for learning about mythology?
@Csio12
@Csio12 3 месяца назад
Joseph has the most beautiful voice ive ever heard in ny 62 yrs. I could listen to him for days. So gentle while deep.
@timothyeerie6080
@timothyeerie6080 5 месяцев назад
Good talk. Love ya’ll!
@schumikel8387
@schumikel8387 4 месяца назад
This podcast is real awesome...Terrance McKenna did something like this on Jung..its a psychedelic take on everything Jungian..🎉 Thanks.
@schumikel8387
@schumikel8387 4 месяца назад
He'd come up with the idea , that since both LSD and Jungian psychology both originated in Switzerland..why didn't one part of town know what was happening in the other..??
@oyam7
@oyam7 Месяц назад
There are a thousand ways to kneel and kiss the ground; there are a thousand ways to go home again. Rumi. . Dream work is the best transport to go home for me too. I love you three so much. Thank you so much for your truthful insights.
@blissbrain
@blissbrain 5 месяцев назад
My drug-free "psychedelic" initiation was in the 90's . I put on my newly purchased holo-synch delta rhythm CD with earphones, lay on my bed in the daytime, closed my eyes, and while completely conscious and awake, I 'saw' before me in absolutely real 3D, a pink and purple scintillating nebula, and 'received' a message of being overwhelmingly loved, accepted, and belonging, to this big nebula 'family' ... I can only try to explain it like this: they/he/she LOVED me unconditionally like I would adore and love a new puppy that was my little puppy, and I have to say it was the single most amazing incident in my life. Forevermore I feel I DO belong, even though i'm an INFJ :D :D much love to all you guys who share such wonderful Jungian insights.
@Liyah-encyclopedia333
@Liyah-encyclopedia333 5 месяцев назад
My god the story told by Joseph is so touching
@erikaebbeson4896
@erikaebbeson4896 4 месяца назад
may i please have the link to your live Feb 10th book release festival!♡. How fabulous and congratulations 🎉 Thank you. This was lovely. Would have enjoyed hearing some numerology of floors 19 and 20. What a fabulous 3some you are. Love this podcast.
@thisjungianlife
@thisjungianlife 4 месяца назад
Hi, sorry for the delay, here's the link! www.eventbrite.com/e/the-vital-spark-a-live-podcast-with-this-jungian-life-tickets-787610021777?aff=oddtdtcreator
@churchofprometheus8898
@churchofprometheus8898 5 месяцев назад
I’ve been a listener for years and had no idea you all were talking on video…love it! On a serious note, one of my family members took his own life while tripping on mushrooms. Please, have a trip sitter and no weapons around if you choose to use psychedelic drugs.
@radutout9661
@radutout9661 5 месяцев назад
Dear Lisa, please add more context to your statement regarding Cannabis. We all know that most of the time this kind of research is financed by somebody. Who might that be? In the US, they smoke extreme versions of the weed, extracts up to 90% THC, that is not the case in Europe. When you consume any plant without a sacred ritual, it will eventually harm you. I was smoking for over 15 years, and I became a servant of the plant, the plant did not serve me anymore, it became a meaningless routine, and I had to stop (without any psychosis). You can die from water intoxication...if we talk about extremes
@mightytaiger3000
@mightytaiger3000 5 месяцев назад
Cannabis has been altered in the USA as well, that’s part of the issue also. I have friends that have been smoking for 20 years in ibero America or parts of Europe without an issue- then tried it in the US while visiting and it immediately rendered them immobile or paranoid.
@letgoandallow2779
@letgoandallow2779 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for that insertion of the dangers of cannibis today. And yes, just because it is organic/natural does not mean it's safe to use.
@detodounpoco37
@detodounpoco37 3 месяца назад
Psilocybin was an essential tool in my experience to arrive to the 2nd half of life. It is not for everyone of course, but a powerful natural catalyst for evolution through the numinous.
@d.a2026
@d.a2026 5 месяцев назад
Good point about it opening the inferior function... But you also see an enlargement of the existing function with some people...
@arlo0robyn
@arlo0robyn 4 месяца назад
This particular Podcast "Three Jungians on Psychedelics: Is Tripping a Valid Path of Self-Discovery?" has one of the most significant stories, which began with Joseph, about opening ourselves to the "Collective Unconscious" both with Jung and with all people who've survived early childhood or even later in life TRAUMA! Our "Human Journey" today necessitates an opportunity to break through to an enchanted world of infinite possibilities of change. Drugs, Psychedelics, man-made or from Nature, Religious experiences, even Psychoanalysis all can have their place, not that they are equal....However, each individual may face, through the course of their life, moments in reality or in the dreamworld in which we are able to confront both the trauma and archetypal savior, passage, way which intervenes allowing ones psyche to go beyond trauma.......accept what has happened and move on with one's Journey.
@bryanalltogether
@bryanalltogether 5 месяцев назад
A hotel is this building of rooms where all this other activity is happening on its own but you’re connected to it all by being in the same building. It’s like when you walk into the building of the Self for the first time.
@gwendolynmurphy9563
@gwendolynmurphy9563 5 месяцев назад
Just started listening, but I'm curious why you say people think of Jungians when they think of psychedelics? Could it be a generational phenomenon? I think of Richard Alpert a/k/a Ram Dass. Before your time?
@portcontainer9727
@portcontainer9727 5 месяцев назад
Hey guys! Best wishes for a Happy New Year from Greece (Salonica, half way between two myth centers: Mt Athos and Mt Olympus). I was thinking that many people don't remember their dreams. And without any memory of their dreams, it's hard to have a real interest in dream interpretation. Any ideas on how we can better remember them? Is there anything we can do? (I bet you get this question a lot)
@don-eb3fj
@don-eb3fj 5 месяцев назад
Great question, I would love some suggestions for this also. I very rarely remember having dreamed and honestly wonder if I even DO, and on the extremely unusual occasion that I do wake with any memory of one it dissipates so quickly that I almost never have a chance to become aware of its content before it vanishes without a trace. I routinely experience immersive daydreaming and dissociation and can slip into an altered awareness easily, as if my "observer" has occupied a different splinter of my fragmented and exiled self in my inner world (lots of emotional and attachment trauma, Schizoid/Avoidant adaptations) and often can enjoy the experience of bring immersed but usually emerge with little or no recall of the content of the experience. Extremely frustrating, because those times when I do drag something back with me, it's profoundly beautiful though sometimes a bit disturbing or disruptive. Those little treasures are the medicine, so I want to learn how to "...raise a Temple, a bridge between worlds that will allow me to walk between them at will, and gain the power to create Beauty from Darkness itself." (actual words and images received from a profound waking dream 15 months ago, no substances involved-still trying to decipher it and follow where it leads). Some suggestions I've heard others say is helpful: -Keep a dream journal, a separate book of a convenient size and type with a pen within immediate reach beside your bed. Treat it with reverence, like a holy object or grimoir, fetishize and customize it. A dictation machine that requires only one button or voice activation is probably a wise addition. - Build a ritual around sleep, and a discipline and routine around preparing for it. Meditate/pray before sleep on the intention/desire for receiving a dream. - Some herbal aids like valerian or hop tea, chamomile, lavender, etc. could be helpful. - Go to bed early enough to get enough sleep to allow you to wake naturally before you "have to", so you will have time to linger over and process dreams or afterimages. Hope someone finds this helpful😊
@livijastanisic3033
@livijastanisic3033 5 месяцев назад
It’s the same for me, and much of the stuff that can be found online didn’t help me remember them more vividly. I can remember them from time to time, but far from clear storylines people who send the dream for interpretation obviously can recall 😔
@ruthlewis673
@ruthlewis673 4 месяца назад
The role of synchonisity in opening to an alignment with the all that is All. It will require attention to every little thing. Anything that feels like a coincidence, don't dismiss, open to it's possibility, a doorway, a doorway to further openings.❤
@Mink0twink
@Mink0twink 5 месяцев назад
Whoa face cams! Super cool.. love the channel keep up the great work team
@deletedaccout
@deletedaccout 5 месяцев назад
Stanislav Grof reffers to LSD as She. I am surprised, that you didn´t mention him since he is most known and respected psychonaut.
@stephenosika2038
@stephenosika2038 5 месяцев назад
Also just a quick note: the red and white mushrooms used in Northern Europe (amanita muscaria) do not contain psilocybin. Very very different type of mushroom
@bigniftydude
@bigniftydude 4 месяца назад
I try to mention this on any video or thumbnail that starts talking about psilocybin then show and image of the amanita. It's frustrating lol
@ruthlewis673
@ruthlewis673 4 месяца назад
The quote swims in the unconscious was Jung himself. He said this to James Joyce in relation to his fragile daughter. You swim in the unconscious she is drowning.
@jeffwhite2511
@jeffwhite2511 5 месяцев назад
Hell yes!!
@charleswisher2781
@charleswisher2781 5 месяцев назад
I have seen some bad trips, but also some really beautiful ones
@mightytaiger3000
@mightytaiger3000 5 месяцев назад
like life itself
@clh37204
@clh37204 5 месяцев назад
"It cures atheism." Beautiful!
@deletedaccout
@deletedaccout 5 месяцев назад
I found that Cannabis was just perfect for me as I started discovering Love and God, but still was affraid of death. Cannabis provides short term not so intense experience (in comparasion to 8hours of LSD or intensity of DMT), so I think she is best for the start. Although she is not a hallucinogen, she calmed me to the point, where I got vision of heaven, which is common as I found later. There was white palace and collums of light surrounded by praying ppl. So the vision came naturaly as she helped me to calm down. Of course she can be misused, expecialy by ppl who think, that they can´t calm down otherway, but everything is deadly dangerous if you are ignorant and constantly taking shorcuts. For me she was very healing and calming, which was much needed, as I discovered, that I am not ego and that I needed to let go of control and calm my body and mind after lifetime of CPTSD and neurosis.
@user-jo8vl5dh2v
@user-jo8vl5dh2v Месяц назад
thats so try about the inferior function being channelled through psychadelics Im quite emotionally numb and unaware but most times i trip i weap with no clue as to why
@user-jo8vl5dh2v
@user-jo8vl5dh2v Месяц назад
true
@tremolo2109
@tremolo2109 4 месяца назад
The actor didn't die from ketamine toxicity, he mixed ketamine with an opioid and went into a hot tub while alone. Just a little correction on that. Ketamine isn't without risk, but it has been misreported that it was ketamine specifically that resulted in his death. It could have been mixing alcohol with an opioid and a hot tub and been similarly likely to result in death, but because ketamine seems more new and sensational, it's reported as if it was a sole reason
@sterlgirlceline
@sterlgirlceline 5 месяцев назад
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@d.a2026
@d.a2026 5 месяцев назад
It (plantmedicine)could be a way to acces the transpersonal, but unfortunatly it's not a garantee ....and sometimes people do treat it like that...
@gwendolynmurphy9563
@gwendolynmurphy9563 5 месяцев назад
Matthew Perry is the actor. Sad not too many folks know about Elijah McClain, who was murdered by ambulance attendants under the supervision of Aurora, CO police. They gave him way too much Ketamine for his weight. A jury thought so too.
@gwendolynmurphy9563
@gwendolynmurphy9563 5 месяцев назад
Mindfulness will solve every problem . . . (read cynically)
@tristecherie7464
@tristecherie7464 5 месяцев назад
I mean all i know is Jung was against it, and his reasons make a lot of sense to me
@d.a2026
@d.a2026 5 месяцев назад
In the US they see Cannabis as a holy plant it sometimes seems ...here in the Netherlands we already know that Cannabis can also be dangerous and addictive ...
@dvdvppt
@dvdvppt 4 месяца назад
☀️Not all of us are blessed ..or cursed 😂 Indeed sir. We were to the blessings 💪☀️
@sterlgirlceline
@sterlgirlceline 5 месяцев назад
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️💛
@eureka842008
@eureka842008 5 месяцев назад
@Liyah-encyclopedia333
@Liyah-encyclopedia333 5 месяцев назад
❤❤❤
@lechat-man2435
@lechat-man2435 5 месяцев назад
amanita muscaria (the red and white mushroom) is not a psilocybin mushroom and the santa - amanita story is "fake" in the sense that one has nothing to do with the other apart from the colors...I was surprised to hear this in this talk and it kinda demotivated me to listen more cause I felt at this moment "this woman has no idea of what she is talking about"...
@Csio12
@Csio12 3 месяца назад
Ive a friend who never came back from schizophrenia induced by heavy use of marijuana beginning at 14 yrs of age. He does simple work part time janitor garden maintenance and has to take clozapine. He is limited in conversation as he has no thoughts or opinions on anything except one sport.
@kevin_heslip
@kevin_heslip 5 месяцев назад
1:08:20
@gwendolynmurphy9563
@gwendolynmurphy9563 5 месяцев назад
I be one. "It's ineffable."
@jfknf8982
@jfknf8982 5 месяцев назад
Matthew Perry RIP
@advandepol7537
@advandepol7537 5 месяцев назад
Different substances have different workings. I have used marihuana regularly for a long period of time, but there was not much spiritual to it. I always thought about sex, and rather pervert sex. When you are depressed or paranoid, it will be multiplied. A bad trip can be so bad that you rather die, though you remain hanging in it. Both with ayahuasca and magic mushroom I have had a very bad trip, but at least I didn't sink into a hole of moral depravity. I think you can use those drugs once in a while, when you feel good and find yourself in pleasant surroundings. Common sense says that you should use plant based hallicinogenics, but I have been told that man made drugs can be very pleasant. The problem with the celebreties is that they use them for their career, and because their bodies get more insensitive to it, they resort to coctails of all sorts.
@mightytaiger3000
@mightytaiger3000 5 месяцев назад
That’s something within you. The plant is just shining a light on it. Perhaps address why you even know about pervertedsex. What decisions do you make in your waking life about what you expose your mind to.
@bigniftydude
@bigniftydude 4 месяца назад
I dont think its for us. I used them a lot. I could see the archetypes, spiritual and physical convergence, fated plotted reality. Its eerie snd can pull you apart and leave you to put it back together by yourself. I just want to trust in what made and sustains me. It takes the lonely burden off of me. psychedelics are like a spiritual prying. Its a lack of trust.
@Tamales21
@Tamales21 5 месяцев назад
Drugs are good. If it can break an addiction it's good.
@adonai136
@adonai136 4 месяца назад
Ketamine is far from a psychedelic vutba disassociate drug and used as animal tranquilizer.defibetly not a good idea alone especially in the pool. There is bo known overdose amount of lsd or pylicibin. Intention and setting is everything
@rickiefeatherstone
@rickiefeatherstone 4 месяца назад
Is there a such thing as a misspent youth? Without my folly, I am yet a fool.
@d.a2026
@d.a2026 5 месяцев назад
I feel like the ladies havent ever tried psychedelics😂
@thegoodiesfactory
@thegoodiesfactory 5 месяцев назад
I wouod bet that Deb has never tried psychedelics... x) she seems to very much be operating from the fear mongered mentality of the Nixon era.
@chanadye4292
@chanadye4292 5 месяцев назад
I respect this channel and the guests as well as the community. But as a 64 year old woman, I don’t even have to listen to know the answer. Of course psychedelics are a valid way to self discovery and universal mind expansion. Even animals go out of their way to be in certain regions at certain times of the year to trip the light fantastic and traverse the deep and abiding unknown within and without. The only difference is the name change of the drugs, or plants used by each and every generation since time began with or without ritual. The profound experiences are undeniable….. unless your a scientist… they are always the first to observe and the last to actually know. Roflmao!
@andrewortiz5797
@andrewortiz5797 5 месяцев назад
The Experience produced by drugs and psychedelics is limiting and cannot reveal anything new that one doesn't already know in their Psyche. The Mystical Experience and Spiritual Experience that comes Directly Straight from The Great Mystery (sober) can not only do that but It can also reveal thing's one doesn't know and can include premontions and revelations and predictions with 110% accuracy. There is no High like the Most High and too even think about politics or be involved in politics (republican and democratic) shows one is indoctrinated and compromised. The Great Mystery is above all political bias or indoctrinations!! All that republican democratic nonsense that is going around is brainwashing and political indoctrination for men who can't think for themselves. They choose to be followed and they choose to follow a tribe or a clique or a group or a cult. Those who follow will follow the ideas of other men while those who choose to follow only themselves and be leaders will, will face must persecution.
@meidellsqueendom
@meidellsqueendom 5 месяцев назад
Thank you so much 🙏 I loved this conversation ❣️
@heath3546
@heath3546 5 месяцев назад
Joesph incredible story of redemption. Ty. Great topic
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