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Throne of Glass Review - Why I hated it 

Jordan Harvey
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This is my review of the popular novel Throne of Glass.
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@raptorkid7477
@raptorkid7477 5 лет назад
I feel like Maas wrote the synopsis before she wrote the actual book, and then she never bothered to change it.
@camilledembo4397
@camilledembo4397 5 лет назад
Raptor Kid most of the time authors who are traditionaly published don't write their own synopsis, the people working with her pubshlising house wrote it
@leaf111
@leaf111 4 года назад
Camille Dembo was gonna say the same. i didn't like the book that much either but it's not sarah's fault we were mislead
@leaf111
@leaf111 4 года назад
ItsClairWoozworld yes exactly! advertisement is literally just lying a lot of the time and book synopsises aren't an exception. why not just be honest? sure, you might attract a smaller audience, but at least those who read it will be more likely to enjoy it rather than when you lie and set high expectations so a lot of the readers will be let down and dislike the book. just tell us what it's about lmao
@Shoreknight
@Shoreknight 7 лет назад
"Two men love her. The whole land fears her. Only she can save them all." Everything a cliche Mary Sue is about.
@lilliputauthorandtoiletris1954
Tetris_Citadel Mary Sues only have two admirers? Nah! More like everyone other than the antagonist/antagonists.
@lilliputauthorandtoiletris1954
Tetris_Citadel Even then, the antagonist might be a love interest.
@Shoreknight
@Shoreknight 6 лет назад
Lilliput Author and Toiletrist, Gargantuan Ideas Very true. XD
@ruoweilim7334
@ruoweilim7334 6 лет назад
it's not mary sue it's your typical YA dystopian novel lol
@MrAlexsdeleon
@MrAlexsdeleon 6 лет назад
Yessssss
@extremelyhappysimmer
@extremelyhappysimmer 7 лет назад
Maybe im just cynical but if a book cover mentions a love triangle in the first line its bound to be underwhelming.
@steph2994
@steph2994 6 лет назад
extremelyhappysimmer nope you are entirely correct. I rarely found a book that mentions love triangles, in the synopsis, not have it over run the book.
@ruoweilim7334
@ruoweilim7334 6 лет назад
and annoying
@rachele.3229
@rachele.3229 6 лет назад
I tell this to my author friends who do this. I tell them to not mention it. Let it build. We shouldn't see it coming. That's good writing. I feel like when it's mentioned, it almost promises that it will be boring and cliche. At least, that's how it was every time I've seen it. I don't like books that mention too much in the synopsis on the back, especially if romance is mentioned and the book itself is not a romance novel. I feel like when books do this it's less of "This is really important to the plot" and more of "Let me just add a love story or a love triangle to make this more interesting". I hope I'm making my point clear. There's nothing wrong with romance in a story but if it's not crucial to the plot, don't make it so important because then it's just like random fan service.
@serpentemperor1088
@serpentemperor1088 6 лет назад
Why do YA authors have a need to add love triangles? They just make the girl seem like the world’s biggest douche whilst the poor guys are vying for this girl’s attention. This is especially prevalent in the infernal devices and the twilight series. And yes, I know that polyamory and polygamy exist, but it is very rare and this trope is overused and just rubs me the wrong way. Humans are naturally monogamous creatures.
@toodleloo5257
@toodleloo5257 6 лет назад
Serpentemperor 108 humans aren’t really that monogamous nowadays.
@carsonbrown3961
@carsonbrown3961 4 года назад
Nehemia is literally the best character in the whole series, she ate up all them other girls except maybe Manon. Period
@alejandrasofiarivera6831
@alejandrasofiarivera6831 4 года назад
Carson Brown her death destroyed me
@stoopidcrumpet6679
@stoopidcrumpet6679 4 года назад
Alejandra Sofia Rivera woah bro thanks for the spoiler
@meerchlocxk
@meerchlocxk 4 года назад
Bless. Manon and Nehemia are the only ones who deserve rights
@scremmy_draws
@scremmy_draws 4 года назад
mmm whatcha say add chaol to that list
@meerchlocxk
@meerchlocxk 4 года назад
@@scremmy_draws god, you're so right. Can't believe his character was literally destroyed so that she can cater R-whatshisname sjm is SUCH a great writer. Love what she does 🙃🙃
@amatullahm2384
@amatullahm2384 4 года назад
Since i finished the series, hearing about the love triangle makes me laugh, reminds me of when things were so simple for our main characters....when all the stuff in a year didn't happen to them.
@terezaslovackova2268
@terezaslovackova2268 4 года назад
that is what i think of! it was so easy and chaol/dorian and celaena love triangle is really funny. In my eyes this serie got better with every book, but my favourite for sure is Tower of Dawn, i really liked this book.
@alexandradegala6262
@alexandradegala6262 4 года назад
@@terezaslovackova2268 funny how I wasn't excited at all for Tower of Dawn but it ended up as one of my favorites too. XD
@majeedmamah7457
@majeedmamah7457 3 года назад
Right! I'm on Queen of shadows right now and that love triangle is barely a memory. I think it was only advertised to hook in the tween girl audience, twilight fans and such.
@majeedmamah7457
@majeedmamah7457 3 года назад
@@terezaslovackova2268 I'm on queen of shadows right now and I'd Heir of Fire was actually a step back. It felt a little too repetitive with the "Celeana meets boy, Celeana and boy hate each other, Celeana and boy come to understand each other and either become friends or lovers" shtick. I honestly enjoyed Manon's story far more in that book. But QOS is a huge leap forward
@eydergutierrez3933
@eydergutierrez3933 2 года назад
Yes
@siriuslyconfused1
@siriuslyconfused1 4 года назад
“Yeah she’s a total badass killer” “the chief of the guard will protect her” wait... why the hell would she need him to protect her if she’s that much of a badass assassin?
@vanjamalinovic3285
@vanjamalinovic3285 4 года назад
he didn't protect her he protected others by stoping her to kill someone while she's out
@catelyn719
@catelyn719 5 лет назад
The hairs on the back of my neck actually stood up when reading about the Ridderak. I thought the author did a great job making a spooky scene.
@gracemortlock3578
@gracemortlock3578 4 года назад
Cate Lyn yes! Read the whole thing. They only get better!
@nahurirablessing3944
@nahurirablessing3944 4 года назад
She really did
@ruinanjo6544
@ruinanjo6544 4 года назад
yeah, she really did
@FreakyGremlinDK
@FreakyGremlinDK 4 года назад
Ohh yes, I agree, it really became a horror story at that point.
@devi2289
@devi2289 4 года назад
Mr Raptor yes lol I feel you
@alexmiddleton9390
@alexmiddleton9390 6 лет назад
I think Celaena could’ve been interesting if her flaws: vanity, selfishness, arrogance, idiocy, had actually been written as flaws, bc they weren’t, SJM just wrote her like that because it was cool and for the sakr of having flaws rather than so that Celaena could actually work towards understanding and correcting them
@emeraldstarr7204
@emeraldstarr7204 5 лет назад
Try reading the rest of the series before you judge it 🤷🏼‍♀️
@ThisAdamGuy
@ThisAdamGuy 5 лет назад
@@emeraldstarr7204 "I know the first book was a steaming pile of donkey crap, but you can't have an opinion until you've wasted even more of your hard earned money on them."
@emeraldstarr7204
@emeraldstarr7204 5 лет назад
@@ThisAdamGuy wow, ok. I'm allowed to have my opinion. I was trying to say that all of the problems the person I replied to had with the first book are resolved and expanded on in the next books.
@ThisAdamGuy
@ThisAdamGuy 5 лет назад
Emerald Starr who the hell cares? Why would I buy book 2 when book 1 was one of the worst books I've ever read? That's like telling me to try a restaurant again after I ordered a hamburger and was given a moldy old sandal between two buns because the chef learned to put athlete's foot powder in his shoes before serving them. And isn't it ironic that you just told Alex that he wasn't allowed to have an opinion, and now your defense is "I'm allowed to have an opinion, okay?!".
@emeraldstarr7204
@emeraldstarr7204 5 лет назад
@@ThisAdamGuy I didnt say he couldn't have an opinion you dipshit, I said he should read the whole series before judging it as a whole. Comparing a book to a restraunt is grossly inaccurate. Building a world, complex character arcs don't happen in a single book. If it does, its not a very good book in my opinion. You're a total douchbag that is somehow flipping out over the fact I really enjoy these books. Go bother someone else
@aquamarineancientsoul7893
@aquamarineancientsoul7893 5 лет назад
"Two me love her, the whole land fears her, only she can save them all" Sounds like wattpad
@thecakegarden5324
@thecakegarden5324 4 года назад
I write on Wattpad and I would hope I never write a description as cliched as that
@dxmxrxsbxxckthxwxxdxlf3931
@dxmxrxsbxxckthxwxxdxlf3931 3 года назад
@@thecakegarden5324 I read on wattpad and I have found real good books that beat the stuffing out of Throne of Glass so I am excited for what you have to share!
@thalia2576
@thalia2576 2 года назад
Sarah J. Maas written this when she was 16 years old... It was her first book ...
@amatullahm2384
@amatullahm2384 4 года назад
"something unexpected should happen at the end of the novel" ME: *THINKING ABOUT THE END OF CROWN OF MIDNIGHT* ^^
@bomella
@bomella 4 года назад
Ik that was such a cliff hanger, so was Empire of storms!!!
@TheArtsy_
@TheArtsy_ 4 года назад
I already figured the "big reveal' at the first clue on Throne of Glass and honestly, knowing the reveal happens at the end of book 2, it's the only thing that is giving me a little bit of motivation to finish crown of midnight bcs I'm half way through and the pacing is so slow and nothing interesting seems to happen :/ but I told myself I'd finish this series bcs I like the world building
@ruinanjo6544
@ruinanjo6544 4 года назад
exactly. *nehemia is in our hearts*
@Sarah-og6cc
@Sarah-og6cc 4 года назад
@@ruinanjo6544 ik i always reread that book up until Nehemia dies and our girl stops sleeping with Chaol because I fucking shipped them hard
@AbdulSamad-eh3xd
@AbdulSamad-eh3xd 4 года назад
Last night I finished it and I'm desperately waiting to start heir of fire as soon as possible but have to read the assassins blade first
@inesuke8977
@inesuke8977 4 года назад
An assassin that doesn´t kill and thinks it´s wrong to do it... but is actually the most feared assassins ever... it sounded great in her head i guess
@seldomstudios6351
@seldomstudios6351 Месяц назад
Isn't that just batman?
@thecuriouskitty10
@thecuriouskitty10 10 дней назад
​@@seldomstudios6351 Bro Batman is a vigilante, there's a difference between the two. Also, Batman has brains. You wouldn't want to compare him to someone stupid
@NixFaerie
@NixFaerie 7 лет назад
Dorian? You can't have a straight love interest named Dorian. That's just not allowed.
@rosegilliland220
@rosegilliland220 6 лет назад
I just picture Dorian all fabulous while in the library talking to the inquisitor.
@weslaraye5305
@weslaraye5305 6 лет назад
All the men love Dorian (Gray)
@silverflame6289
@silverflame6289 6 лет назад
Well..he did stab her in the side.
@junjunjamore7735
@junjunjamore7735 6 лет назад
I have an RP character named Dorian with a bf so this made me laugh. XD
@samh3396
@samh3396 6 лет назад
He’s gay for Chaol ;))
@AceEverett
@AceEverett 7 лет назад
I was mostly annoyed by how hard the author pushed Celaena into the assassin role, while never proving it in her character or actions. People walked right up to her without her ever noticing them, she never went anywhere silently and stealthily, she was always noticed and even worse wanted to be noticed. She actually got angry that she was supposed to hide her identity and that people didn't know who she was. What assassin WANTS people to recognize them? A few times she gloated about her skill, but then was hurt that people were weary of her, afraid she might kill somebody. She had too many chances to take out people she thought were bad, but only thinks about killing people because they said something that wasn't pleasant about her or looked at her wrong. I could go on, but there's no need to. Queen of assassins, she was not.The writing was definitely off. I noticed myself skipping a lot of the text because it wasn't useful and interesting, or it was annoying. Endless talk of dresses, getting dressed, I don't like this dress, I don't like that thing or this thing or whatever. Why did an assassin need help getting dressed every time? I felt a few parts were contrived to the point I started getting angry and talking at the book. Example: Celaena begins to think Nehemia is the one killing champions. This is absurd because she didn't have any real motive. If she were to kill people, it would have been the king and his noblemen, not some thieves and killers that were there for some random year long tournament in order to be the king's assassin, which never made sense either.It was an interesting story, and I could definitely see why people like it, but I had to ignore a lot of text in order to be happy with it. My mind easily recognizes most faults, and I can ignore a few small ones here and there, but every other page I was disconnected with a character (usually the main character), the plot, or thrown by the disconcerting writing. The one thing that really crushed me was that I was really hoping to see a badass main character that wasn't overpowered or didn't feel fake. Almost every MC in a book is nice but weak, nice but invincible, or a wannabe badass whose power doesn't matter cause I just want to rewrite their whole character and pay someone to have a new book made with my corrections just for me. I feel bad ranting, but I could easily write a couple pages to go through how many things were wrong, you mentioned a lot of things I didn't want to add because my comment is already overly long. If only I were paid to review books and fix errors before they were published, except that this author would be livid that I highlighted half her book in red.
@JordanHarveybooks
@JordanHarveybooks 7 лет назад
Haha YES. Thanks for this comment, you're 100% right. There are so many things about her that don't make sense! I would LOVE to see a copy of the book with your edits. Thanks again for the comment, you gave me a good chuckle.
@Twentythreesweet
@Twentythreesweet 7 лет назад
Styxx people like you will never be satisfied. Sit your miserable ass down and read something else. Like why is it necessary to share your uneducated opinion about a fucking BOOK? Books are like movies, not everyone likes them. And nobody cares about your dumbass opinion. Bye 👋🏾
@JordanHarveybooks
@JordanHarveybooks 7 лет назад
MsCalisurfer quite the contrary, I actually really enjoyed their comment. One of the wonderful things about art and stories is that they can only be experienced individually, and yet they're more enjoyable when discussing them with other people. That way it becomes a shared experience.
@jackiecottey3277
@jackiecottey3277 7 лет назад
Styxx well maybe she wasn't walking around stealthily because she didn't need to
@Twentythreesweet
@Twentythreesweet 7 лет назад
Styxx. You're comment makes no sense. You can tell you skipped some text for sure lol
@anyakathryn6822
@anyakathryn6822 5 лет назад
I read the first book, and I really liked Dorian and Nehemia, but I couldn’t stand Celaena. I hated reading from her perspective, she was vain, and all she thought about was boys. She didn’t seem like an assassin, plus I knew from day one it was Cain. It was not subtle at all.
@katlinporter3815
@katlinporter3815 2 года назад
Do you think this was intentional to distract us from her growth and assuming her “place”? (Trying not to share spoilers)!
@anelaivkovic6521
@anelaivkovic6521 2 года назад
Well, she is 18yrs old in that book. No wonder she was thinking of boys 😁
@Jrdn357
@Jrdn357 4 года назад
"Nehemia was my FAVOURITE character in this novel!" Me after Crown of Midnight: *Oh, my sweet summer child....*
@thalia5946
@thalia5946 3 года назад
I cried for a week straight when Nehemia....
@krabby-patty
@krabby-patty 2 года назад
😂😂 i had it spoiled before i even read about it
@queendsheena1
@queendsheena1 6 лет назад
Ouch. Drop them truths Jordan. As a writer I like hearing honest thoughts on books. I think it can only help others improve and not thread the same cliche paths others have done.
@JordanHarveybooks
@JordanHarveybooks 6 лет назад
Haha glad I could help even a little!
@Kittenheelxoxo
@Kittenheelxoxo 6 лет назад
same!
@sophiathedandilioness
@sophiathedandilioness 4 года назад
This is why I love booktube. I'm writing a fantasy series and everything I can learn from people like Jordan to help improve my work makes me so grateful this type of content exsists!
@anniez9502
@anniez9502 4 года назад
Well why don’t u write your own bestselling book before u talk like shut up no one cares
@gracemortlock3578
@gracemortlock3578 4 года назад
No! This is an amazing series written amazingly by an amazing another. Read them all or you cannot judge!
@kaitlingormley256
@kaitlingormley256 5 лет назад
In the other books, the secondary Manon has more depth/growth than the first our main character in any version on the book. Would legit read and enjoy the books more if there had been more Manon the Celeana
@aj_814
@aj_814 4 года назад
manon became my favorite character about a page after she was introduced
@Ana-qs9pt
@Ana-qs9pt 4 года назад
Kaitlin Gormley I was really tempted to just read Manon’s chapters when I first read the book. She was the character that really made the series better for me, and I could see myself cheering for her more than I cheered for Celaena/Aelin
@TC-jx1bh
@TC-jx1bh 4 года назад
Manon was my favourite character. I loved the iron teeth witches. Very interesting
@alyssapinon9670
@alyssapinon9670 4 года назад
The 13 were the best part of this series
@TC-jx1bh
@TC-jx1bh 4 года назад
Alyssa Pinon FACTSSSS
@empressfreya9872
@empressfreya9872 6 лет назад
I hated the series for a loooot of reasons but what bothered me a lot was that it suddenly changed genres. YA doesn't show graphic, violent sex. Chaol and Celaena actually have a sex scene in the series and it's so typical for YA - asking for consent, making out, fade to black. And suddenly Rowan turns up and is so god damn annoying and all of a sudden you have super graphic, animalistic, mountain shaking sex for pages. That's not YA! That's NA! It bothered me so so much
@helenaliu959
@helenaliu959 3 года назад
OH MY FRIGGIN-- YES I read this book at the age of 13. *13*. I was so damn traumatised and confused.
@sanadorable
@sanadorable 2 года назад
pls stop giving spoilers
@empressfreya9872
@empressfreya9872 2 года назад
@@sanadorable TOG has been out for YEARS and this comment is three years old. If you watch a video on it without having read it, it's on you
@doity
@doity 2 года назад
Maybe don't read comments for books you haven't read...
@corialanuswhos9436
@corialanuswhos9436 2 года назад
I was eleven and it didn’t matter to me
@78luls
@78luls 5 лет назад
i just finished throne of glass and i love it-
@JordanHarveybooks
@JordanHarveybooks 5 лет назад
layan maali to each their own! Glad you enjoyed it :)
@vanjamalinovic3285
@vanjamalinovic3285 4 года назад
Me too and then I watch these types of videos saying it's trash and crawl up cry and re-read it😂
@ruinanjo6544
@ruinanjo6544 4 года назад
YES I LOVE IT
@c.w.61
@c.w.61 4 года назад
The whole series was epic... Damn...
@quinnellflanagan6055
@quinnellflanagan6055 3 года назад
i know i literally cannot even fathom not enjoying this series. been a heavy reader my entire life, started this series at 21 years old and it's actually my favorite series ive ever read
@ES-ix6ll
@ES-ix6ll 6 лет назад
Y'all in the comments need to chill with these hate comments praising Sarah J Maas like she's the next Arthur Conan Doyle or something... All YA novelists need to start understanding cliche tropes and cliched characters won't cut it. The only reason they cut it in the first place is that these boring ass love triangles and "strong female characters" are what's trending. Trends don't last forever henceforth this boring mediocre writing won't last forever because that's what it is. A trend. Look at world famous authors like Shakespeare and Jane Austen. People remember them because what they wrote was real, raw and powerful and people remember them for their originality. What they wrote was from the heart, not because it's what was "in demand" or "trending". So sad truth is that this type of cliched and lazy writing will not be remembered or valued by society because of its mind numbing unoriginality. Now if you liked the book, cool good for you. But no need to be rude and act like people can't form their own opinions. My point is that writers don't feel genuine anymore, because often times these cliches a boring character tropes come from authors desperate to make a dime who are more interested in following trends that appeal to the majority of boring and half wit teenagers who can't understand real literature rather than writing real, raw content.
@JordanHarveybooks
@JordanHarveybooks 6 лет назад
It really feels that way sometimes, doesn't it?
@rasheedawilson752
@rasheedawilson752 6 лет назад
I am not saying I disagree with you but these kind of books have existed forever. It's not like writers in the 19th and 20th centuries were all shitting out classic masterpieces. There were heaps of bad books with tropes and many writers were upper class and a part of the bourgeois. I love Jane Austen but lots of people think she is very boring and doesn't really contribute anything to literature. Some people actually think she has no real plot in her writings. Additionally, the current trends in YA have been around for a very long time. Now I don't think Throne of Glass was amazing or even good in terms of writing. I enjoyed it for what it is and maybe because I haven't read YA in a long time all the tropes didn't bother me that much. Honestly, people write like this because they grew up reading books like this. That's it. And all power to them. It is not my writing style personally but it is for some people. YA has its fault but there are lots of memorable plots that have come from the genre that have completely overshadowed contemporary adult books whether well deserved or not. This is coming from someone who doesn't read that much YA.
@MyaAni
@MyaAni 6 лет назад
okay i agree with all of your comment except the jane austen bit. to me personally, she was just the trashy romance novel of the late 1700s/early 1800s. not particularly memorable, and i found her books to be very much a struggle to get through.
@Ruby-sm5my
@Ruby-sm5my 6 лет назад
How could you so horridly insult a writer who created a book so precious to many, including me?! How rude can you possibly be to say something like that?! You people who hate on this book need to read it again or something because it's incredible.
@smileymctrashbag
@smileymctrashbag 6 лет назад
Ruby Thorp Lmao, no it isn't. Get over it.
@elenajovancic6208
@elenajovancic6208 6 лет назад
I can understand why you don't like it and I appreciate the way you explain it, and even though I am a hardcore Sarah J. Maas fan, I didn't enjoy this book either, and feel like the story starts in the 2nd book. I loved all of her other books and the characters,and the ToG series in general, but I strongly agree with most of the things you said in this review, and I also love the way you discussed it without insulting or offending the author or the people who liked it, but just stated your own opinion.
@ariyafayt7106
@ariyafayt7106 4 года назад
Thank you for being mature!!!
@natrjardim
@natrjardim 3 года назад
Ikr!!!! I started really enjoying it in the middle of the second book
@krabby-patty
@krabby-patty 2 года назад
yeah the story really started in the 2nd book because the 1st book was just her battling against Cain, Nox, etc, until she inevitably became the king's champion.
@user-ie3lx7uv1q
@user-ie3lx7uv1q 6 лет назад
The top assassin in the world.....the character is just totally not convincing.
@davis30960
@davis30960 4 года назад
@Mrytle Romilly they go a bit into her "training/upbringing" in book 1 but it's more detailed in 2 and that pre sequel. But it's also hinted at through out book 1 that no one knows what she looks like and that she's a girl.
@anniez9502
@anniez9502 4 года назад
Um it’s a FICTION book??
@gracemortlock3578
@gracemortlock3578 4 года назад
Do not be put off! This is an amazing story for everyone! Read them all as they get better and better!
@annarekhasimon2398
@annarekhasimon2398 4 года назад
I thought her character believe her to be a top assassin, but through out the book she was proved wrong (I thought it was to show the arrogance of celeana sardothien)
@Endless20162
@Endless20162 6 лет назад
Love triangle...lets make it a pentagon or maybe a hexagonnnn orrrrr love octagon
@sufferingmeguca7919
@sufferingmeguca7919 5 лет назад
Even better: Love dodecahedron
@ownitervi241
@ownitervi241 5 лет назад
@@sufferingmeguca7919 Lmao
@hellothere2464
@hellothere2464 4 года назад
Endless the grisha trilogy
@leslies3890
@leslies3890 5 лет назад
I’m behind the times just reading it now but I gotta say it’s incredibly underwhelming. The assassin that’s more like a stereotype high school cheerleader obsessed with popularity and her looks, her constant complaining about the weather, the pretty clothes, flirting with her captors from the get-go, the world that fears her yet gives her essentially free reign....need I go on?? Ugh!! If I wasn’t waiting for another book to be delivered I would quit this one entirely and I’m only 3/4 through it. Maybe it’s because I’m raising a daughter myself and I’m too old for this genre but I’m dying for a STRONG female character that isn’t a ditz!!
@ruithebaguette2862
@ruithebaguette2862 6 лет назад
All of my reading nowadays is done in fanfiction. 1. It's free! If I don't like it, I won't fight through it just for feeling like I didn't burn 20€. 2. Where else would I find some sweet gay stuff? I'd like to read something else than the straightest romances ever, whose only turns are the corners of the love triangle from time to time. 3. I got characters I already love, and quite often they are not OOC. And if they are, see my first point. 4. Crazy AUs or UAs! Where do you find a retired assassin hitting up a barista who's desperately trying to become the greatest villain ever? 5. Some 15yo virgins write better smut than those best-selling adults. Just my coping method.
@dececanem
@dececanem 6 лет назад
Rui Synx An assassin and a barista? That sounds super fun! What is the name of that story?
@ruithebaguette2862
@ruithebaguette2862 6 лет назад
cavecanem Oh, I saw that once as a writing prompt and liked the idea. I don't know where to find _exactly_ that stuff but a lot of fandoms have an abundance of coffee shop AUs. Maybe one of them features an assassin?
@dececanem
@dececanem 6 лет назад
Aw, that's to bad. It sounded like a nice concept
@ruithebaguette2862
@ruithebaguette2862 6 лет назад
Maybe one day inspiration will hit me and I'll try to write it for you ;)
@dececanem
@dececanem 6 лет назад
lmao, you totally should! Hit me up if you do :D I'm sure it would get real popular ~
@jagu1143
@jagu1143 7 лет назад
I just thought that Celeana was pretty much the worst assassin in the world by how stupidly careless her actions are and her near total lack of emotional control for her fellow competitors, friends and love interests. Mediocre writing at best.
@Air_Serpent
@Air_Serpent 6 лет назад
Ja Gu I loved the book but I couldn't help but think of this throughout. I felt doubtful that she could be the best assassin with those traits..
@katrinagomez7730
@katrinagomez7730 6 лет назад
Ja Gu SHE WAS SIXTEEN AT THE TIME. YOU DON'T KNOW HER PAIN 😭😭 I'M CRYING FOR HER.
@utrix_1121
@utrix_1121 6 лет назад
Katrina Gomez Yeah, but she is an assassin. If she is emotionally stable to take a life or make proper decisions then she can’t be an assassin.
@emilyb5307
@emilyb5307 6 лет назад
The reason it didn't bother me was that I read the prequel (Assassin's Blade) beforehand, and while not required to understand the story, it does set up previous lifestyle, personal loss and character change that helped me put up with the moodswings and lack of emotional control in this book. Caeleana was an established and well-feared assassin in the initial novel, and in this book, she was recovering from a whole lot of personal loss, betrayal, and then time spent in a literal death camp, so for me, I could understand that she wasn't going to just jump straight back onto her feet. This was compounded by the fact that those in the competition weren't supposed to know who she was as Caeleana Sardothien, so she initially kept a lower profile throughout. I do understand the love interest issue though- there are a few too many for my taste, and it just kinda jumped out of nowhere. Anyway, maybe I'd have a different opinion had I not read Assassin's Blade first.
@valensiash8495
@valensiash8495 6 лет назад
Seriously SHE DOESN’T NEED YOUR PERMISSION TO BE AN ASSASSIN
@kuramasgirl96
@kuramasgirl96 4 года назад
I think book 2 has a lot more of the action that you were expecting in the first one. As someone who as read all 8 books in the series the first is definitely the lightest actionwise.
@Rachel-km6rs
@Rachel-km6rs 5 лет назад
That blurb is actually different than the one I have. Maybe mine was a later edition, but it does not mention a love triangle.
@meganbarth4817
@meganbarth4817 4 года назад
Rachel Allan yeah same with mine. I actually pulled mine out as she was reading her blurb and was like, is this the same book? I've just finished reading the fourth book in the series (Queen of Shadows) and so far I'm genuinely LOVING the series.
@stoopidcrumpet6679
@stoopidcrumpet6679 4 года назад
I think you have the UK edition. Mine is like that to
@raz3905
@raz3905 5 лет назад
I love this book series so much, but I love Heir of Fire on because I love Aelin more than I love Celaena, if that makes sense. (Also Manon is QUEEN and I love the 13)
@natrjardim
@natrjardim 3 года назад
YES. Manon owns it all
@aryavarma2660
@aryavarma2660 3 года назад
... have you finished KoA?
@Thenoobestgirl
@Thenoobestgirl 3 года назад
YES I love Manon!
@malvinastt16
@malvinastt16 3 года назад
Umm no Manon is goddess🛐🛐
@richardwalters7968
@richardwalters7968 2 месяца назад
This story shouldve been about Manon and not the annoying MC
@primrosett
@primrosett 6 лет назад
Omg FINALLY someone else that doesn't like this book. Like you said, I didn't like Celaena, felt she didn't personify an assassin at all. I don't mind the idea of a girly assassin who likes dressing up, but she still needs to BE an assassin, and Celaena just wasn't (not in this book anyways, I can't speak for the sequels because I have no interest in reading them after this one). People sneak up on her all the time, she's not especially sneaky or very clever. She spends more time thinking about boys or dresses or how pretty she is, when I feel like a real assassin would at least always be keeping tabs on everyone around her in some capacity. She's not very attentive at all. Celaena just comes across as a 21st century teenager plopped into this world, and then SJM pointed to her and said "you're an assassin now". I don't buy it. Moreover, I found the romance incredibly weak. This wouldn't have been so bad when it comes to Dorian because *SPOILERS* it's very clear he's just the romantic false lead and that Chaol was set to be the true love interest in later sequels. But it's just handled so clumsily and shallowly. Both dudes, despite knowing how dangerous she's supposed to be, are pretty much INSTANTLY taken with her and have a crush on her within... what? 3 chapters? The whole "romantic false lead" ruse doesn't work when I can PLAINLY tell he's not the real romantic lead, and the whole "slow burn" thing falls flat when the dude falls for the protag in like 5 seconds. I think this whole scenario is more frustrating to me because my favourite fictional romance of all time has a similar "romantic false lead prince and slow burn warrior friend" dynamic except it's done 10000x better and more believably. I just... I think I was really disappointed by this book. The plot had no twists, the protag had this over inflated ego and didn't suit her reputation or profession, the romance was weak and somehow managed to turn an attempt at slow burn into instalove. Overall I just found it very lackluster. I was very surprised when I discovered booktube, and found out that it was extremely popular and well-liked. Can't say I really understand the hype, but to each their own. P.S. The people getting nasty in this comment section need to chill tf out. Jordan didn't attack anyone for liking these books, and she made it perfectly clear her stance on it was negative in the title. If you're going to get THIS heated about a negative opinion, you really should have never watched the video in the first place. You knew what you were getting into, now stop it with the personal attacks.
@JordanHarveybooks
@JordanHarveybooks 6 лет назад
YES YES YES! And thank you for sticking up for me! I NEVER want anyone to feel attacked for liking something that I don't, but I do feel that I am entitled to share my thoughts on these works... that is a huge part art of our understanding of art and the world around us.
@katrinagomez7730
@katrinagomez7730 6 лет назад
Emilie Everything that happened in THE ASSASSIN'S BLADE, THRONE OF GLASS, CROWN OF MIDNIGHT, is just a part of Celaena's master plan. You don't know her true intentions 😁 and her true identity. You guys are so missing out.
@elliem2750
@elliem2750 6 лет назад
Hell yes!! You just summarised everything I don't like about this book perfectly
@arcevans7324
@arcevans7324 6 лет назад
Nope, for a person to be this bad, and to end up waiting for a simple master plan is a horrible way to enjoy a book series. boring and vain character, cliche love triangle, slow plot. It's like a 5th-grade wattpader wrote this book, I gave it a chance, and it was not for me. But you enjoyed it, and that is all that matters.
@LA-sh9jh
@LA-sh9jh 6 лет назад
Chaol? What the fudgecakes, no😂😂
@meganbarth4817
@meganbarth4817 4 года назад
It's weird because the blurb of my ToG book is different to yours. "MEET CELAENA SARDOTHIEN. BEAUTIFUL. DEADLY. DESTINED FOR GREATNESS. In the dark, filthy salt mines of Endovier, an eighteen-year-old girl is serving a life sentence. She is a trained assassin, the best of her kind, but she made a fatal mistake. She got caught. Young Captain Westfall offers her a deal: her freedom in return for one huge sacrifice. Celaena must represent the prince in a to-the-death tournament - fighting the most gifted thieves and assassins in the land. Live or die, Celaena will be free. Win or lose, she is about the discover her true destiny. But will her assassins heart be melted." I do agree that it is a slow book, however it isn't meant to be read as a standalone; it is the opening book to a very complex series. Without this first book as an opener, there is no connection to Celaena being hidden for 10 years as an assassin, and no explanation for Aelin to learn about the wyrdstones and wyrdmarks. As much as it isn't a great standalone book, it is an ESSENTIAL part of the bigger story, which is what a lot of people don't understand. I'm all for people having their literary preferences, and not liking stories. I'm in no way saying "tHesE aRE aLl thE rEaSOns YOu sHoULd liKe tHe STorY," however I don't believe it is right to judge a book as a standalone when it is part of a much larger and MUCH more complex storyline.
@jacklemm1518
@jacklemm1518 4 года назад
Megan Barth I agree. People only judge the first books and if they don’t like it they say the whole series is trash without even at least trying to read the other books. I’m not saying you HAVE to read the whole series and then form an opinion on it. But least try to read a little bit of book 2 or something before you say the series is trash.
@stoopidcrumpet6679
@stoopidcrumpet6679 4 года назад
Yes, my blurb is like that to. I had no idea there was going to be any sort of ‘evil’ in the book going into it. I thought it was just going to be about the competitions
@moamind2121
@moamind2121 4 года назад
Wait why does ur book say chaol offered this chance to celaena after she got caught? He didn't, Dorian did. Nd she got caught as in got caught when she was still an assassin?? This sypnosis sounds a little messed up tbh 😅😅😅
@p.h7031
@p.h7031 4 года назад
Uma JK it’s the UK/AUS version
@Requiem-kg6te
@Requiem-kg6te 4 года назад
If the first book isn't interesting- let me fix that, a book with 300+ pages doesn't get interesting than no people shouldn't give it a second chance if they dont want to. It's like people saying a show gets good in season two 😐
@feels0.019
@feels0.019 6 лет назад
Seriously I can't find a decent ya novel nowadays
@JordanHarveybooks
@JordanHarveybooks 6 лет назад
Yeah, it's getting increasingly difficult.
@amy233
@amy233 6 лет назад
FEELS 0.0 maybe it’s time to movie on to new adult or adult?
@ruoweilim7334
@ruoweilim7334 6 лет назад
ikr
@empressfreya9872
@empressfreya9872 6 лет назад
Jordan Harvey I'd really recommend The Young Elites by Marie Lu because it's reaaaally good. The protagonist is, like, REALLY morally gray, there's no love triangle, people are ACTUALLY KILLED, it has poc as main characters and it has a compelling plot!
@rilynnmcox640
@rilynnmcox640 6 лет назад
Personally I would still recommend Throne of Glass, not everyone is gonna like the same book and you shouldn’t decide because of one rant that it is a bad book. If you did all books would be considered bad books, I would still read this book and also she was only talking about the first book 😉. Multiple things get explained and people change over times into characters I love, and giant plot twists.
@natrjardim
@natrjardim 3 года назад
The best thing about this series is that it completely changed. Like, a storm of plot twist. In the end, we laugh about how innocent we were in the first 2 books.
@Ami-qu6id
@Ami-qu6id 2 года назад
Felt like a 12 year old girly girl wrote it who dreamed of being the extremely pretty popular girl all the boys fell over, but also add some “mystery” and “I’m so powerful but pretend to be humble” Basically all kinds of different YA stories smushed together. The writing was extremely hard to read without eye rolls and sooo many little girl style comments.
@cnccvincc
@cnccvincc 5 лет назад
This book honestly sounds like the author was trying to write a middle grade book, but it accidentally became YA somewhere along the way.
@modernestella
@modernestella 2 года назад
That might be because she was 16 when she wrote it...
@nowyuosee109
@nowyuosee109 7 лет назад
Oh just wait.... she becomes a real Mary Sue later on And there's also abusive relationships that are painted as 'ideal'
@JordanHarveybooks
@JordanHarveybooks 7 лет назад
Yee would not believe yee eyes AMAZING! So many things that I love :P
@miniqui100
@miniqui100 6 лет назад
"Abusive relationship"?? He's her trainer, not her love interest and when that happens he's no longer "problematic". These books are all about progress and personal growth
@LadyLilith1015
@LadyLilith1015 6 лет назад
Dani. Doesn't Rowan get like super jealous and territorial?
@malloryrollins8077
@malloryrollins8077 5 лет назад
Rowan is in no way abusive, every time someone says this I ask for proof. (Spoilers) they’re actually meant for each other and is proven time and time again. As for territorial, that is his nature as a Fae, though it can get annoying. But Rowan isn’t abusive.
@emeraldstarr7204
@emeraldstarr7204 5 лет назад
@@LadyLilith1015 not anymore than a normal person is. When he knows he's being ridiculous, he keeps it to himself. Not to mention the fae are much more animalistic in nature then humans. I appreciate that maas didn't humanize them too much.
@des7604
@des7604 6 лет назад
I agree on everything. throne of glass was a huge disappointment. and it's sad cause it has so much potential. my biggest problems with it was the boring, predictable plot and celeana. it was very hard for me to believe that she was the most notorious assassin in that world. if the most notorious assassin eats candy like a kid, plays with puppies and reads books instead of training then less notorious assassins are saints or something. I was annoyed how her being an assassin was her most commonly mentioned characteristic yet she never really killed anyone, only said she would. also, am I the only one kinda bothered by how easy the competition was?? or that they were not allowed to kill one another?? that would have made the story much darker and interesting
@JordanHarveybooks
@JordanHarveybooks 6 лет назад
Yup! There were so many issues.
@areebgulzar2171
@areebgulzar2171 5 лет назад
Read Assasins Blade, she kills. She kills later on in the series.
@annarekhasimon2398
@annarekhasimon2398 4 года назад
But she was changed after Endovier,but really assassin's blade had to be the first book. We don't really understand her, and the character change after Endovier and most of the story without it
@smoothtro6164
@smoothtro6164 4 года назад
I found it kinda funny when you said "she'd hate to brake a nail" because in queen of shadows she said "you won't find me crying over a broken nail" (no shade just found it funny)
@garangakkala7739
@garangakkala7739 4 года назад
But in the first book she was definitely a whiner
@bradenskaggs5350
@bradenskaggs5350 4 года назад
I feel like the 1st book is definitely very flawed but it explains a lot of the series and is a good opener. It's not the worst book in the series (the 2nd and 6th books are my least favorites) but I can understand why Celaena is seen as a Mary Sue. Maas definitely fixes this in later books
@asinicw9906
@asinicw9906 6 лет назад
from goodread negative reviews it actually seems like this assassin girl behaves a bit like a spoiled princess?
@eligirl100
@eligirl100 7 лет назад
Sarah J Maas does not know how to write action. When she does write it like in her future books, it's so hard to understand what is going on and you just wait for the battle to end. If you are interested in a better version of this book, read Poison Study
@jpm8769
@jpm8769 6 лет назад
eligirl100 I don't agree with you but I'm gonna say that Poison Study is a good book.
@katrinagomez7730
@katrinagomez7730 6 лет назад
eligirl100 Well, i'm 13 and I understand how Sarah writes. No offense, but I guess you're just not feeling it and not understanding some words in the book.
@i.147
@i.147 6 лет назад
+Katrina Gomez There's a difference between not understanding the words and not being able to picture a scene because it's competly messy. And, honestly, Throne of Glass has a very basic vocabulary like 99% of YA books. It's not Lovecraft... The OP was clearly saying that the action scenes are badly written.
@smileymctrashbag
@smileymctrashbag 6 лет назад
Katrina Gomez Well, then it makes sense why you love a shitty book. When you get older and reread it, you'll get it.
@toothfairy8792
@toothfairy8792 6 лет назад
Don't patronise someone, and be all high and mighty just because you think you're right, and because everyone who's older is supposedly so clever. "When you get older"... Everyone's opinion counts, and you can't say it doesn't because of age.
@vredacted1503
@vredacted1503 4 года назад
I think the reason a lot of people like Celenea so much because they could see themselves in her. Like when she used her beauty and jokes as a way to protect her heart and such...
@hannahschneider9761
@hannahschneider9761 5 лет назад
Re the dialogue: I felt like there was this clash between the author's attempt to use formal/old-fashioned language as per the usual fantasy/kingdom tropes, that just felt really out of place coming out of the characters' mouths since they'd described within such 'modern' narration. I also didn't detect any distinct voices in the characters - they all sounded the same.
@faithalways8537
@faithalways8537 5 лет назад
The book was so... Bland.
@alejandrasofiarivera6831
@alejandrasofiarivera6831 4 года назад
I actually enjoyed reading the series, though i do remember this putting me off in the first book. Also the first book wasn’t really my favorite and I wouldn’t say it’s the smartest series out there
@Val-tr6ve
@Val-tr6ve 7 лет назад
I will immediately subscribe to anyone who drags throne of glass because everyone seems to love it and I thought it was one of the worst books I've ever read
@JordanHarveybooks
@JordanHarveybooks 7 лет назад
Valerie C. Yup, same! That's how I know I've found a kindred spirit. I don't really understand how it has all this hype and popularity, it's one of my least favourite books that I've read in the last year, and maybe ever.
@uncookedpizzacrust5977
@uncookedpizzacrust5977 7 лет назад
Valerie C. Lmao same
@danil.6667
@danil.6667 7 лет назад
Valerie, I hated it, too. And her other series isn't any better.
@caroll.8861
@caroll.8861 7 лет назад
this makes me like a booktuber 1001% more :')
@starrynightfall00
@starrynightfall00 7 лет назад
I only trust reviewers who drag Throne of Glass tbh 😂😂😂
@cupcakedoce956
@cupcakedoce956 Год назад
Actually I'm pretty much like the idea of a assassin hating breaking a nail, it's kinda of a "break" in the cliché, assassins don't need to always only care about kill kill and being badass, they can also like to be pretty like any random girl and being a "female fatale", I like this ideia and it's not a problem to me
@ShowMeLoveFilms
@ShowMeLoveFilms 6 лет назад
I actually really like this book, though the plot took one HELL of turn later on in the third and fourth. I'm curious as to what you have to say.
@darknight0dc
@darknight0dc 6 лет назад
Celaena is potentially the most irritating main character I've ever read. To the people defending her vanity: this girl was imprisoned for however many years, is starving, mentally abused & physically exhausted and when she is standing infront of a few men she seems overly concerned with her appearance... Like upset because her hair is dirty and she's too skinny. I can't even complain about this character, I dislike her so much.
@Noloxya1
@Noloxya1 6 лет назад
(it is explained in the later books, trust me, the world of ToG is so much bigger than you would think)
@zaiemrys5917
@zaiemrys5917 6 лет назад
"...straving, mentally abused & physically exhausted..." Wouldn't it be more interesting if the author focused on these things, no? That will be an entertaining book. Instead of bragging and inflating the protag's ego who is probably her, the author's avatar. That is just so tacky and sad!
@angel_1ika36
@angel_1ika36 6 лет назад
You can’t judge things just by the first book honestly stop this pls. It’s rly annoying and trust me if you read the whole series it’s so much better
@zipsbips5049
@zipsbips5049 5 лет назад
Don’t read below this if you don’t want spoilers, but I’m using this as a point. This is from kingdom of ash Aight so after Aelin gets free from maeve, and she doesn’t even think about any of the people that saved her, not even her mate, whom she doesn’t talk to for a while beyond a few words. She is screaming for the mask and gauntlets to get off and won’t talk to anyone. She just screams and doesn’t even pay attention to anyone. I think this kinda portrays how much better she is shown after the first book
@chatterboxintel7815
@chatterboxintel7815 5 лет назад
Arielle Duncan your correct. Because her friend died all she did was just stay in a prison
@lr2ldn
@lr2ldn 6 лет назад
I've DNF'd Throne of Glass about 15 times. Like, I can't. And the fandom is super obnoxious and childish.
@JordanHarveybooks
@JordanHarveybooks 6 лет назад
le sigh I mean I wouldn’t attack an entire fandom, but yeah I don’t think the books great
@lr2ldn
@lr2ldn 6 лет назад
Maybe not the whole fandom but about 90% of the ones that I see. lol
@zaiemrys5917
@zaiemrys5917 6 лет назад
"childish" - it implies readers who are physically and/or mentally a child. WTF?! It's dangerous to let them read this trash!!!
@annabanana7659
@annabanana7659 5 лет назад
@@zaiemrys5917 Oh you'd be surprised how people in their mid teens to early twenties would threaten you online just because you didn't really like what they like hahaha. I once stated I didn't really like the Shadowhunter series by Cassandra Claire and almost 20+ Tumblr users tried to figuratively rip my throat when I listed down why I didn't like it.
@zaiemrys5917
@zaiemrys5917 5 лет назад
@@annabanana7659, when they look back, after so many years has passed, they will be so ashamed of themselves. There are thousands of books out of the YA genre that are more worthy of defending than Maas and Clare's vanity swills. I always believe that any MALE RELATIVE of Cassandra Clare should effing run away from her. Her MC is not just a Ginny ripoff, it is also her very own avatar (if the red dyed hair of hers is not blunt enough to prove that). The character shows her own preferences and, boy, does she love incest. ( ̄へ ̄)
@rachelnunn2774
@rachelnunn2774 7 лет назад
Please, don't anyone base your opinions on the first book. I promise you, the series gets a whole lot better. It changes so much and it turns into something so unexpected and beautiful and incredible.
@JordanHarveybooks
@JordanHarveybooks 7 лет назад
I may give the second book a try, but I also don't want to waste a bunch of my time on a series that I don't believe is that good. I think a lot of the times a series will change throughout as the author continues to grow and develop their style, but I also truly believe that the first book will be indicative of what the rest of the series will be like as well, and I just wasn't a big fan of it. Thank you for the comment though, and I'm glad you enjoyed the series!
@jackiecottey3277
@jackiecottey3277 7 лет назад
Jordan Harvey trust me the first book is a little slow, but the series grows to be amazing
@lunarrobot9714
@lunarrobot9714 6 лет назад
Bekah & Rachel Nunn In my eyes, if a series first book is bad, it has failed. You're supposed to compel the readers to keep on going from the get go. Or at least at the end of the first book to read the next.
@what-qo4yl
@what-qo4yl 6 лет назад
Lunar Robot agreed
@LordofFullmetal
@LordofFullmetal 6 лет назад
The job of the first book is to sell the rest of the series. If you're not interested in the first book, realistically MOST people aren't going to buy any of the others. That's how it works. Look at the Lord of the Rings. Fellowship is a bit slower than the others, sure. But it's not BORING in comparison. It's still an interesting story in and of itself. Same goes for the Hunger Games. "It gets better later" really isn't a good excuse for a book series. For a tv series sure, because they're writing AS they go. But a book series takes a LONG time to write, and you don't HAVE to release one before you finish writing the rest.
@slhamm77
@slhamm77 4 года назад
Three years later lol... totally agree. The story promised a cool making of the assassin story and didn’t deliver. I don’t mind a love story in my action book but I found all the main characters kind of tedious and the pacing really bad. I also had the same problems with her characters. They told us how amazing she was and then... no. It took me forever to get through it. I’m not sure how I feel about “well it’s the first book the others get better!” I mean not all first books are amazing but they still have to plant some seeds that keep people interested. This put me off all her books ever. Don’t tell me the next six books are great when I can’t get through the first one. A way to each their own but in just couldn’t get into it.
@SilentTrip
@SilentTrip 7 лет назад
Wow look at these dislikes!!! I think the book is too overrated and so average. Don't get why it's so popular.
@JordanHarveybooks
@JordanHarveybooks 7 лет назад
HEJ _91 me neither, but it seems a lot of people get heated when someone criticizes it!
@TuningAnApple
@TuningAnApple 7 лет назад
HEJ _91 I haven't really followed the series, the first book was okay. I think a lot of the mass support comes from people who supported her since her story was published on fiction press. I read a few chapters of the original and I really enjoyed the bits I've read. I think the book was better served as a single epic.
@gracekim25
@gracekim25 7 лет назад
HEJ _91 I like it because I adore fighting 😆 but yeah I know it has flaws because you know the main character loves reading (I love reading too) etc😅
@gracekim25
@gracekim25 7 лет назад
Jordan Harvey that's the internet for you😆
@Wordsmith00
@Wordsmith00 7 лет назад
It's loved by teenagers who didn't read much in the genre probably. Anyway I hate it so much.. I can't believe I wasted my time reading all five books
@ttgr4y
@ttgr4y 5 лет назад
I mean I liked it, y’all should read the entire series because this is one of seven books lmao it’s only the beginning of Aelin’s character development and the others are absolutely genius
@123biler
@123biler 4 года назад
Spoiler: no, they're not
@ttgr4y
@ttgr4y 4 года назад
123biler your opinion I guess 🤷‍♀️ some people like it some people don’t. Don’t have to get aggressive my dude
@taylorgayhart9497
@taylorgayhart9497 4 года назад
Genius is a stretch for me lol but I do like them and recommend them for a fun series!
@ttgr4y
@ttgr4y 4 года назад
Taylor Gayhart if you couldn’t tell I’m a very big fan lmao
@breannajones3930
@breannajones3930 4 года назад
I'm a big fan too! Absolutely fell hard in love with the series so you're not alone. 😊
@colpul2103
@colpul2103 6 лет назад
Sigh, an assassin who's body count is exactly zero; she doesn't kill a single person. Anyone describing this book as 'epic' I don't think knows what epic means.
@zaiemrys5917
@zaiemrys5917 6 лет назад
Amen!!!!
@oneslikeme
@oneslikeme 5 лет назад
This annoyed me as well. She does kill people in other books though. A whole warehouse full of people actually. But by then, all the other faults of the story are magnified.
@cherita45
@cherita45 4 года назад
She does kill people, it's mentioned in the book that she had killed least 24 people in Endovier, and even if she doesn't kill a person in Throne of Glass, she still killed the Wyrdhound, and she kills so many more people in the rest of the books. Even if you haven't read the rest of the series, you can't say her body count is zero because you don't know.
@Missielou66
@Missielou66 4 года назад
She wasn't supposed to kill anyone in this book anyways
@haniamashriq5666
@haniamashriq5666 4 года назад
「Cherita」 Why are you getting on everyone’s ass?? It’s called opinions bro not everyone likes what you like. Grow up.
@ileaween
@ileaween 6 лет назад
I couldn’t even finish this book. The art on the cover is cool though, I’ll give it that 😒
@JordanHarveybooks
@JordanHarveybooks 6 лет назад
I agree, the cover is really pretty
@ileaween
@ileaween 6 лет назад
Jordan Harvey When that is all someone can say about a book you know it’s really bad 😂
@anniez9502
@anniez9502 4 года назад
ileaween 🖕🖕🖕🖕 Or maybe there’s more to it than the cover and u just have horrible taste in books??
@Abby-km6vr
@Abby-km6vr 6 лет назад
Bless this video. Actual human words cannot describe how accurately you addressed all the points I found problematic in this book. Whether it be Celaena being irredeemably unlikable, or everyone claiming she’s the best assassin in the world while *never showing her being a good fighter*, your review perfectly summed up everything bad about Throne of Glass.
@weasleyredhair
@weasleyredhair 6 лет назад
I dont understand why she bothered with the stupid love triangle if neither of them end up with her in the end did they. I know I liked chaol too.
@eleriparsons
@eleriparsons 6 лет назад
Umm... because how likely is it that you actually meet someone and then go into a love triangle situation, and then actually end up with them? I mean, god, how predictable would that be?
@MsNateRiver1
@MsNateRiver1 5 лет назад
That shit ain't satisfyin' in the least.
@comeatmebro7654
@comeatmebro7654 4 года назад
to fair, the first book was written by a 16 year old, and i thought it was alright. but it became a lot better in crown of midnight, and when i read heir of fire i fell in love with the series.
@briannasantiny1423
@briannasantiny1423 6 лет назад
I read Throne of Glass in 2015 and thought it was great. However, as I continued to become more experienced and played into other genres and YA series, I realized ToG was much less mature. It was cliche, as I know now. Also, I recommend any of Leigh Bardugo’s books because the plot twists are everything, and the detail is so enthralling! Six of Crows was amazing and Crooked Kingdom completely took my breath away!
@JordanHarveybooks
@JordanHarveybooks 6 лет назад
Six of Crows is on my tbr! I'm looking forward to reading it, I've heard nothing but good things :)
@dfpl2554
@dfpl2554 6 лет назад
I literally finished Six Of Crows an hour ago. It was amazing! Definitely better than ToG!
@briannasantiny1423
@briannasantiny1423 6 лет назад
df pl definitely! Leigh Bardugo is such a good author and her characters are so well-developed! The sequel is equally as good. I plan on reading the Grisha trilogy soon. I can’t wait for more of her works.
@briannasantiny1423
@briannasantiny1423 6 лет назад
Jordan Harvey agh, i hope you post a review once you finish! Six of Crows definitely deserves some more attention!
@JordanHarveybooks
@JordanHarveybooks 6 лет назад
Now I really need to read them. I'm on a bit of a book buying ban for the next couple of weeks because I've spent way too much money on them recently and I need to catch up on my tbr list, but once I read it, I'll definitely do a review :)
@purelysmetalnightcore
@purelysmetalnightcore 5 лет назад
How hard is it to make an assassin extremely cold, manipulative, cruel, etc.? Assassin/super soldier characters have so much potential to be engaging and fascinating anti-heroes. I want my debut series as an author to be about a super soldier rebelling against the government that reared her to be an assassin since childhood, and honestly it's nice to know for sure that I can nail that kind of character better than Sarah
@arwenmolas4837
@arwenmolas4837 7 лет назад
Did she say "Kale?" lol😂
@JordanHarveybooks
@JordanHarveybooks 7 лет назад
Arwen Morgenstern-Herondale that's how I read it in my head, and now I can't think of him as anything else!!
@arwenmolas4837
@arwenmolas4837 7 лет назад
Jordan Harvey at first i read it as "Cole". Then my friend said it was "Kale" then i found out during Heir of fire that it's actually "kay-all" but now i can't stop thinking of Chaol as Kale.
@JordanHarveybooks
@JordanHarveybooks 7 лет назад
Arwen Morgenstern-Herondale oh yeah, we have Peeta, we have Chaol, soon we'll have all the food groups
@nicolecheer6490
@nicolecheer6490 6 лет назад
I've been pronouncing it as "shay-ol" woops 😂😂
@nhn3350
@nhn3350 6 лет назад
She also pronounced Sardothian wrong while reading the back XD (like you'd think with the pronunciation guide she would)
@ellalynch6457
@ellalynch6457 6 лет назад
this is literally my favourite book ever
@orebanks8494
@orebanks8494 4 года назад
you got bad taste
@slowmoe1686
@slowmoe1686 4 года назад
But why
@Yumichan62
@Yumichan62 4 года назад
@@orebanks8494 Dude, everyone has different tastes. Just because you dont like it, doesnt mean its bad. Let her like what she wants. I didnt like the book either and had to give up after an hour trying to get into the story but I dont ruin it for people who liked it.
@orebanks8494
@orebanks8494 4 года назад
shyress when the book/author is problematic i think me saying something is fine...
@Yumichan62
@Yumichan62 4 года назад
@@orebanks8494 The problem is that what you said is totally stupid. You said to the person "You have bad taste". Cool, so you only insulted the person. As far as I know the author isnt problematic. There is some stuff in the books that is but so what? There are tons of books about stockholm syndrom and stuff like that. Problematic in real life but its a book. Just because I like a book with that stuff, doesnt mean that I will now go and try to do that stuff in real life. This person liked the book so let her be. Or maybe tell her why the book is problematic in your opinion. But that most likely wont change the enjoyment this person had while reading the book.
@scremmy_draws
@scremmy_draws 4 года назад
The first thing that made me see Celaena’s Mary Sue side was her vast knowledge of history. It seemed to be a strange skill for an assassin, especially one that has been in a death camp! The second thing, which is the one that solidified her Mary Sue-ness was her perfect ability to play piano! Again, she has been in a death camp for a year and had been trained by assassins since age 10! She hasn’t touched a piano in YEARS, and yet she is able to play it perfectly!
@emilyshah9794
@emilyshah9794 4 года назад
she learned to play piano during the 10 years. Arobynn made her learn so "shed be good at something other than killing"
@scanzerattacksd6925
@scanzerattacksd6925 8 месяцев назад
Well she was trained to do. I haven't played paino and read sheet music for years but when I go to the mall and see the grand pianos your daaayymm sure I can sit on there and play, it's almost muscle memory 😅
@EclipseTheFool
@EclipseTheFool 6 лет назад
I feel like she (sjm) should’ve released The Assassin’s blade as the first book, instead of a prequel so people could’ve read how Celaena was as an assassin and how she got up to the throne of glass point. I read it prequel first which made the throne of glass way more enjoyable. I recommend reading it that way because it explains and shows a lot and makes it better overall.
@JordanHarveybooks
@JordanHarveybooks 6 лет назад
That's fair, but she shouldn't have had to write an entire other novel in order to give her first book enough context to be enjoyable.
@zaiemrys5917
@zaiemrys5917 6 лет назад
So, why declare the protag is such a badass, great assassin in book one/prequel when she only becomes one (pfffttt) afterwards?!! Ego stroking much? Especially, when we all know Caleana is just the author's avatar. Given the "love triangle" in these books, that is just so tacky and sad. 😬😬😬😧😧😧😧😧
@aeshiryzenaeschirett5415
@aeshiryzenaeschirett5415 5 лет назад
Cliche awful protagonist is awful regardless of its cliche awful back story
@Thatdumbgremlin
@Thatdumbgremlin 6 лет назад
Yeah, I wasn't very keen on this one, either. Luckily, Nevernight by Jay Kristoff has the same base plot of TOG, but it's executed 10X better, with an assassin MC who could rip out Celaena's spine before the other girl would even have time to blink--seriously, Mia is awesome, and super dense, intricate worldbuilding. I'd recommend it to pretty much anyone, provided they're not squeamish.
@Thatdumbgremlin
@Thatdumbgremlin 6 лет назад
The only real problem I have with it so far, is that most of the worldbuilding is revealed through little asides marked by asterisks. It's all interesting, mind you, but everytime an asterisk appears, the general flow of the story, both emotional and kinetic, is stopped dead so that the narrator can explain different aspects of the worldbuilding. Mostly at the beginning, but it does die down significantly later on.
@emilyrohm6243
@emilyrohm6243 5 лет назад
OtakuhimeXDD Oh my god, I LOVED Nevernight! You’re so right about Mia; she is one of my favorite characters of all time and is what Celeana should have been! The second book, Godsgrave, is just as amazing too! Anxiously awaiting the third and final book next year!
@datura7040
@datura7040 5 лет назад
It gets better when Dorian meets Manon and Celaena meets Rowan Edit: And Chaol meets Yrene. Can't believe I forgot these two. They are so cute and probably the fastest acting couples
@fatmarajab7460
@fatmarajab7460 5 лет назад
I feel like she should have read the other books because it makes the whole plot line better
@datura7040
@datura7040 5 лет назад
@@fatmarajab7460 Exactly. I feel like she only read the first book, decided it sucked, and that was that. The first book is slow but if she had kept going, the story gets so much better. I even read the entire series twice in one year
@datura7040
@datura7040 5 лет назад
Going through the comments, she clearly favoring the ones who agree with her statement that the book sucks. Chaol may not outwardly say it in the first book, but he does fall in love with Celaena early on. You can see it in the way his personality changes just a bit. It's subtle so you have to be really paying attention
@krishnahemminger
@krishnahemminger 5 лет назад
@@datura7040 And that is the issue with Maas and her fans, a good writer draws the reader in from book 1, with good plot points and characters, Maas doesn't do that. I haven't read ToG, and I won't, after the mess that was ACOTAR. But from what I heard, the story doesn't pick up until volume 3. I'm sorry that is just lazy writing, and she should be called out on it, that doesn't mean people are hating on Maas herself, but on her writing. Writers aren't going to make everyone happy, but sometimes there are clear issues with plot, character, dialogue, etc that need to be fixed. As much as I dread the day that I publish my novel, and it gets its first negative review, I have to acknowledge that my writing isn't perfect and that I need to improve with each novel. But before I even publish my novel, I need to make sure that it reads well, plot flows, characters are fleshed out, and you get those through critical reviews. I'm sorry if Maas fans feel that we are attacking them but we aren't we are just being being critical and calling out issues so Maas can better herself as a writer. My biggest issues with Maas, and what she is on my Authors not to buy from list, is that she likes toxic behaviors in her heroes and then pawns them off as romantic because its a "trait" of being another race, she isn't afraid to destroy another character to bolster another, and I feel that her characters are flat and don't develop at all during the first book. Yes, this is my opinion, and no you don't have to like or respect it, same as I don't have to like or rsepect yours. Honestly, I don't care if you like Maas and the relationships she portrays, as long as you would never let a man do the things some of her characters do. Anyways, read and love what you want, thats fine, but don't get mad and defensive when someone who doesn't like something you like posts why they don't like it. I don't think I've seen a post in any of my FB reading groups, that have anti-Maas comments on people gushing about a series. Yet the second that someone says "IMO this sucks, here is why" people are at Maas' defense as if we are personally going to attack her. Anyways, I don't get why you guys go to videos that are unpopular opinions about books you like, and then complain about what they think.
@scremmy_draws
@scremmy_draws 4 года назад
My big issue with ToG (not the rest of the books) was that SJM told us from the beginning that Celaena was the best assassin in Erilea, instead of showing us. We never had a scene of her proving her abilities as an assassin before her time in Endovier! They fix it by CoM and the story is great from there, but she really messed up her character in ToG!
@Butterfly-er6zp
@Butterfly-er6zp Год назад
Have you read ‘The assassins blade’?
@iovechester5654
@iovechester5654 5 лет назад
I just finished reading it and honestly I liked it. I liked the storyline but I didn’t really SJM writing. It seemed a little strange to me. For example I don’t understand how she easily broke up with Dorian and didn’t feel any pain or regret when a few pages ago she seemed to care and like him so much. I’m not sure how to explain it. Also in my version of the book at the end there was the 1st chapters of and so she had to kill for the king and she couldn’t do it. She felt bad for them and it kinda felt strange to me because she’s supposed to be an assassin and they’re supposed to kill. But I’ll still read the rest of the series because I’m interested what’s going to happen.
@12nerdynerd12
@12nerdynerd12 2 года назад
Honestly I’m really trying to get through the empire of storms. I’m pulling my hair out. it’s kind of really drawn out and I feel like I’m making head way I’m 40 chapters in and we still haven’t gotten anywhere really. It’s been a meh book over all.
@X_MissMary_X
@X_MissMary_X 6 лет назад
I enjoyed Throne of Glass (have VERY up and down feelings about the series as a whole) but YES I was also so angry when Cain was the evil one! It was so painfully obvious!
@jacklemm1518
@jacklemm1518 3 года назад
Nox would’ve been a better villain cause he was an ally with celaena so it would be more heart wrenching if he turned out to be the bad one
@wiwi7902
@wiwi7902 2 года назад
@@jacklemm1518 exactly
@cass6020
@cass6020 3 года назад
"it felt very young" tbh the older I've gotten as the series continued releasing, the more I've had to admit the flaws that I didn't like (the long, dull periods between events, Cain being the most obvious option for bbeg ever) and I think if I read this for the first time now, I'd find it really boring and cringy. I read it in high school and I was so taken by the characters and the opportunity to escape to another world. At this point, it's like nostalgia, I can't dislike the book because it got me so excited and into writing more often, which I probably wouldn't have done if I hadn't read it
@ninjablack4347
@ninjablack4347 3 года назад
I can understand why teenage girls love the story. I cannot understand how anyone over 25 thinks its awesome. Theres a difference between a guilty pleasure and saying something is actually good
@saturn3217
@saturn3217 6 лет назад
Honestly, Nehemia was wayyyyy better than Celaena
@JordanHarveybooks
@JordanHarveybooks 6 лет назад
Agreed.
@indigo903
@indigo903 5 лет назад
I miss Nehemiah😔
@sufferingmeguca7919
@sufferingmeguca7919 5 лет назад
She should be the main character
@xxg8148
@xxg8148 5 лет назад
celaena was painted by sjm as unlikable in the first book bc she grows later on
@heeyoongshin4711
@heeyoongshin4711 6 лет назад
THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT THE FLAWS (EVEN IF I'M A FAN OF TOG)
@heeyoongshin4711
@heeyoongshin4711 6 лет назад
THIS IS WHAT CRITIQUES REALLY DO. YOU GO GIRL! I'M LOOKING FORWARD FOR MORE VIDEOS LIKE THIS. 😉
@thesunforest5178
@thesunforest5178 6 лет назад
Omg FINALLY a review of Throne of glass I can relate too. To be honest I hated the book and I was shocked to find out that it's a series with multiple other very popular books. I really had to force myself to read it until the end. I don't like the protagonist too, to me she just seemed like a spoiled brat with her 18 years, obsession with cute princess dresses and her very childish dialogues. She REALLY DIDN'T seem like an assassin who had gone through hell and apart from a few scenes her fighting skill wasn't that badass either. I mean she should be the greatest, strongest assassin that everyone knew and feared but her personality really didn't match with that. I really didn't like her. But the worst thing is the filler content. There is SO MUCH filler content in this book, I was literally upset reading it. There were whole chapters that didn't serve ANY purpose for the plot, just more unromantic romance where nothing happened or stupid descriptions of dreams that were completely unnecessary. I was so upset reading those pointless chapters. It showed so much, that the author knew about the start and the end of the story, but not the middle. There were way too much filler, especially when the climax was close. Ugh, so annoying. And the writing... At the beginning of the book it was quite good. But while the story progressed and especially in the filler content in the middle the writing really got worse. The writing in the end was good again, even if there was no great plot twist and the story was really predictable and the climax was just... meh. I mean it's common that characters are at their worse when the climax comes, but the usually somehow manage to grow stronger. I didn't get that feeling with the protagonist at all. She was just weak and the way Chaol or Dorian (I forgot who it was because I was just ANNOYED and UPSET and BORED) cheered her up was just pathetic. Again, even the writing showed so much, that the author really just outlined the beginning and the ending well. Everything in between was shit. I don't understand how this series got so popular. The book really is one of the worse I've read in a long time. It just SUCKS. Sorry for the negativity. But FINALLY I found someone who shares my opinion on this book, thank you!
@Carolina-rd3gh
@Carolina-rd3gh 5 лет назад
I really liked this book. Can’t relate to any of this. But interesting to know opinions like this exist.
@makayleesmith4442
@makayleesmith4442 5 лет назад
Like many others I hate cliche love stories like this. I gave it a chance and continued reading. AND I WILL TELL YOU THIS SERIES TURNS COMPLETELY AROUND. As the story continues you realize that everything written in the first book was for a reason. Please please please continue reading the series even if you were put off by the first book. I have cried many times over during my time reading this series. By the time I finished the last book I completely forgot I was reading the same series.
@amywan5675
@amywan5675 4 года назад
Thank you so much for talking about this!! I couldn't agree more - the book had way more potential and is much more underwhelming than its fans paint it... that being said, I think it's a FUN book to read, just not necessarily a GOOD book!
@IMayOrMayHaveNot
@IMayOrMayHaveNot 6 лет назад
I totally agree with what you said at 11:32. The deal with Celeana is that her duality was unbalanced. A strong female character can be written in such a way that what is considered part of the feminine spectrum ( interest in clothes/ornaments, gracefulness, feelings, vulnerability, etc) and what is taken for badassery ( authority, power, wits, fighting skills, etc ) are conciliated within their life just fine; the problem is that when the character shows way too much interest and focus on the skin-deep aspects by comparison to the more serious and urgent matters, they do pass for shallow... which is a big issue when writing female characters because it perpetuates the notion that femininity = bad.
@JordanHarveybooks
@JordanHarveybooks 6 лет назад
reikayakishiro Seriously! That’s a great way of wording it.
@your.favorite.detective25
@your.favorite.detective25 4 года назад
I loved the books, finished the whole series actually and am a superfan(respecting all opinions)
@caitlin8459
@caitlin8459 5 лет назад
My book Throne Of Glass doesn't have the same blurb on the back
@its_me_luv6941
@its_me_luv6941 3 года назад
the only love triangle I’ve been able to enjoy is in the Cruel prince in the Folk of the Air series because it added to the story line whereas the love triangle in this book is so generic. there’s nothing important abt it and if you got rid of it the plot line wouldn’t change, meaning the love triangle in Throne of Glass is pointless.
@brittanyrose6949
@brittanyrose6949 6 лет назад
I love that you have a paperback copy. Ever since I started booktubing I’ve felt kind of pressured to have nice perfect hard backs but this reminded me that there’s nothing wrong with a paperback copy
@torrentXofXdarkness
@torrentXofXdarkness 7 лет назад
U think this is bad??? Oh honey the rest of the series is a shit show I wish I could scrub my mind clean of it
@blueai5022
@blueai5022 7 лет назад
This video saved me from wasting money on a book I likely won't enjoy. I had a feeling it was overhyped...
@JordanSmith-os2zr
@JordanSmith-os2zr 7 лет назад
The book is absolutely phenomenal and you can't let one bad review override the extensive love and popularity the series has. I personally think the writing is absolutely brilliant, enticing and descriptive, the plot ingenious and the characters beautifully flawed. You should definitely try and read it because you might be surprised by how good it actually is.
@morganrose2372
@morganrose2372 6 лет назад
You should really give this book a chance. I hate to say it but from what I've seen from this chanel is all hate no good
@elenajovancic6208
@elenajovancic6208 6 лет назад
You should give it a chance, and even if you don't like it at first you should continue on with the 2nd book. I am a hardcore Sarah J Maas stan and I like the 1st book the least out of all of her books. I feel like the story starts at the 2nd or even the 3rd book
@alainat9748
@alainat9748 2 года назад
Im going to have to respectfully disagree. This series is my absolute favorite. One of the many reasons why is the character development/arcs and also I love the relationships (not just the love ones). (I respect everyone's opinions though, dont come at me)
@user-fp3bw6uk1g
@user-fp3bw6uk1g 4 года назад
I’m actually so in love with the series that it’s my second time reading it now, and it’s just as good to me, but we are allowed opinions lol
@elissalowe4002
@elissalowe4002 3 года назад
There wasn’t much drama between chaol and Dorian over celena bc they both loved each other and respected each other so much. Chaol was willing to let Dorian have her regardless of his feelings for her. Same with Dorian. They had a friendship that couldn’t be faltered even through to the last book. I loved throne of glass series! Everyone has a right to their own opinion though!
@hiyabhatia7441
@hiyabhatia7441 2 года назад
You also have to take in account that when Sarah wrote this book, she was 16. So it kind of makes sense for some of it to be "young" or "immature". I do, however, agree that Celeana was vain, and I think Sarah meant that. In the future books we see Celeana's character change drastically, and make fun of old celeana in a discreet way.
@annghauri6949
@annghauri6949 3 года назад
I read the first novel and I can agree with you with the majority of the things you've said in this video. I don't understand Celaena's purpose as an Assassin because it felt like a title that she carried around with her, that declared her to be seen as a badass and dangerous. And personally, her occupation as an Assassin could signify other things than the obvious. Assassins originally came from the Middle East and I would have liked to see a twist upon the concept, when the author had decided that Assassins are apart of her world. Celaena's values as an assassin and as a person shift around a lot throughout the novel at a very quick pace, that it makes you think that the author suddenly decided Celaena needs to care about others, just after cursing at them for imprisoning her. Just there and then, she needed to be the hero because you know, plot must go on. I can't give any credit to Celaena and what she says, when she plans escape routes or plans to disarm and kill someone, because it feels that she overestimates her abilities and also other people overestimate her abilities too. How the author hypes Celaena and how Celaena hypes herself, ruins her character overall because it makes her arrogant and obnoxious. Chaol and Nehemia were the only characters that fleshed Celaena's character more by calming down that ego of hers. I don't know if I should continue the series or not. Supposedly a lot of people say Sarah makes up for her plot holes with the rest of the books.
@shadowmageg8811
@shadowmageg8811 5 лет назад
You really should read the whole series cause this is my second favorite series I’ve read. First being lord of the rings. I think Sarah j Maas is a very one of a kind. The characters grow so much through out the series. Especially Dorian and celeana .. I think sometimes you should not judge the 1st book in the series cause really how can you fit all of these things in one book. I hope that you read the whole series cause characters can’t grow in one book. I think you will enjoy it when the story progresses in the next books.
@andjelijanovakovic6535
@andjelijanovakovic6535 4 года назад
agreed🥺
@Yumichan62
@Yumichan62 4 года назад
@@andjelijanovakovic6535 I dont think this will make her like the book more. If she already disliked the first book, why would the other books make her like the series more? Sometimes stuff just isnt meant for you. I tried reading this book for 2 years and I never could finish it cause I just hated the characters and the way it was written. I could not bring myself to finish it since I had no fun reading this and sometimes it made me want to quit reading alltogether. This book was simply not made for me so why should people like me keep trying? If you like it, good for you, thats cool! But some people simply wont like it. If you only read horror and hate romance books, you wont like this one, even if you read the other ones.
@andjelijanovakovic6535
@andjelijanovakovic6535 4 года назад
ah, i guess you do have a point. the thing is, i really like this series and i got kinda sad when i saw so many of you lowkey hating it, but i do agree it's not for everyone. we all have our own opinions and that's completely okay :)
@Yumichan62
@Yumichan62 4 года назад
@@andjelijanovakovic6535 I dont think alot of people are hating, most of us just dont really like it. And of course there are people who are assholes about nit liking the book but there are Sarah J Maas fans who behave like that too. Both sides always are kinda extreme. But I get how you feel. Its sad if someone doesnt like the book you love but sometimes a book just isnt for everyone. Its cool though that you enjoyed the story! :)
@terram.9088
@terram.9088 4 года назад
Yes, I agree with you. 😊👍
@vikaziza1506
@vikaziza1506 3 года назад
Spoiler: She's the best assassin in the kingdom. There are people being murdered in the castle. She ate a bag of sweets which someone left in her room... And she survived 7 years as an assassin? Like really?
@kelsierii4747
@kelsierii4747 3 года назад
this got me as well, like literally anyone couldve done it, ask philippa or a servant? no, lets eat the candy. I couldve even excused it if it *was* poisoned, but it was fine, no consequences for her
@rebeccavaughn8897
@rebeccavaughn8897 7 лет назад
I get what you're saying, but is there really anything wrong with a vain heroine? I've seen some pretty vain heroes. Why not for female protagonists? And this was the first book in a series, so maybe this is a character flaw that she has to overcome.
@JordanHarveybooks
@JordanHarveybooks 7 лет назад
Perhaps it is a character flaw that she has to overcome, I just personally found it annoying, but more than that, as I mentioned in my video, it doesn't really make sense with her character. I didn't like the way that Maas wrote it. I also get your feminist viewpoint on vanity, but I would much rather advocate for no cases of vanity as a hollow character flaw than have it equally across all genders.
@rebeccavaughn8897
@rebeccavaughn8897 7 лет назад
I guess I'm so sick of one note female leads, I'm too willing to forgive. I didn't read this book and a lot can be interpreted by how a character is written.
@JordanHarveybooks
@JordanHarveybooks 7 лет назад
I feel you there, though I'm a tad less forgiving :P
@rebeccavaughn8897
@rebeccavaughn8897 7 лет назад
When reviewers read my novel, no one had a problem with my hero being vain, arrogant, and rather selfish. But I have heard people complain about heroines who are that way. Makes me think there's a double standard with male and female flaws. (Also with my book, only two reviewers were upset that my hero slept around. But nearly everyone was either shocked or horrified that my heroine wasn't a virgin. Some people argued with me for months over it!) As I didn't read Throne of Glass, I don't know if this applies. I understand your point though that the writing was flat, and therefore the character development, including flaws, didn't come out correctly anyway. Maas probably had a good idea for a story in there but took the easy way out by not writing out all the action parts. Lesson learned for the rest of us! :)
@dotkiarika1026
@dotkiarika1026 7 лет назад
Rebecca Vaughn I'm not her, but for me it really depends on the kind of vanity you are describing. I would very much enjoy a female main character that is arrogant and vain, if written right. Caelena, though, felt just like a spoiled brat - a self insert Mary Sue who commits no mistakes and makes a fit at the slightest problems. Like, I don't care how vain a character is, they probably wouldn't unirronically be mad over dresses and such after one year of slavery in a mine.
@dylanarmstrong9328
@dylanarmstrong9328 6 лет назад
Sarah Maas's depiction of a strong female assassin frustrated me so much I wrote my own version of it minus the love triangle plus the action. I feel like it fixed a lot of the issues she had.
@benjaminmcinnis6683
@benjaminmcinnis6683 6 лет назад
i guarantee you. you made it worse
@dylanarmstrong9328
@dylanarmstrong9328 6 лет назад
ben mcinnis And how would you know? You haven’t even read the story.
@benjaminmcinnis6683
@benjaminmcinnis6683 6 лет назад
i have read ever single one of those books dude
@dylanarmstrong9328
@dylanarmstrong9328 6 лет назад
ben mcinnis with one notable exception. The one you’re trying to judge.
@randomsquared8809
@randomsquared8809 5 лет назад
Kinda confused why you took Maas's premise tho. Dont steal the idea even if you didnt like how it played out
@mollieseifert
@mollieseifert 5 лет назад
The issue I have with the review. 1. Yea her writing is young, Sarah was 16 when she wrote the book 2. The issue with Celeana being too "girly" or prim and proper is due to a background that you dont know yet because that plot hasnt dropped. Out of thr whole series this ONE did fall a little shorter but go through and read the rest of it and I think you will be really surprised at how much her writing style grows. The 1st book is barely the tip of the iceberg in a much bigger plot line that ja developed later
@bellibooo
@bellibooo 3 года назад
I think your first point is sooooo important to keep in mind. Maas was 16, SIXTEEN! It's an amazing accomplishment for a young teenager to write something like that, and to have all the plot twists and back stories etc etc in mind for the coming books.
@scremmy_draws
@scremmy_draws 4 года назад
I agree that Celaena is a Mary Sue! But the saving grace of this book, for me at least, was Chaol! I love the banter between him and Celaena, and I love his development and backstory! I hate that he gets screwed over constantly, because I genuinely love his character!
@ashe5854
@ashe5854 5 лет назад
Have u finished the series? To me it was nice. And tbh, hate is a strong word.
@glouise9837
@glouise9837 2 года назад
I mean you shouldn't have to read a whole series to like it. Also hate is a fine word to use for a book. I'm glad you liked it though.
@ashe5854
@ashe5854 2 года назад
@@glouise9837 I've totally changed my opinion from back then, I was too young 😭😭😭
@glouise9837
@glouise9837 2 года назад
@@ashe5854 lmaooo honestly same tho
@avaniagashe845
@avaniagashe845 4 года назад
I too thought celena was too lame for an assassin like when she ate the chocolates from a bag that was just randomly lying around. I was kinda hoping that it would be poisoned but-...
@bellibooo
@bellibooo 3 года назад
I was CERTAIN that it was going to be poisoned when I first read that! I thought that it was obvious because no self respecting assasin would start to eat the chocolates without making sure they weren't poisoned first. But Maas was only 16 when writing this so she's excused.
@DFullerLisa
@DFullerLisa 7 лет назад
Granted I haven't read enough of the book to give it a fair chance. Does one chapter count? Lol I just found the main character to be an utterly annoying spoiled brat. Had I known it was a love triangle I wish I didn't buy the entire series!
@JordanHarveybooks
@JordanHarveybooks 7 лет назад
From what I've heard, I think it expands into a love square. How thrilling and original.
@elih2344
@elih2344 7 лет назад
Jordan Harvey it actually doesn't, it disappears completely, and then develops into a complex story with plenty of action and strategizing. Of course there's a love interest, but it's basically a side story, and mainly focused on the action and goals. I actually didn't like the first book at first too. But I stuck through in order to give it another chance, and it turned out to have plenty of twists, giving Celaena plenty of complex characteristics and a wonderful story. The latest book actually was pretty amazing.
@JordanHarveybooks
@JordanHarveybooks 7 лет назад
I may give book two a try if I can get someone to lend it to me. This comment section has been widely divided and it's piqued my interest enough to give it a try.
@elih2344
@elih2344 7 лет назад
Jordan Harvey actually I heard that you can read all of the books online for free if you search for them, and in my opinion, would say that the story gets interesting towards the end of the second book, which spirals off into the rest of the great series that it is now. BTW I love your channel! Its so interesting to see different points of views and arguments that bring to light some things I've never thought of before! Great job!
@JordanHarveybooks
@JordanHarveybooks 7 лет назад
Elizah Hernandez thanks so much! I really appreciate that!! I put a lot of effort into research and argument development so that's really nice to hear. Let me know if there's anything you'd like to see in the future!
@dianemiles2720
@dianemiles2720 Год назад
Also, she describes Celaena as vomiting at least 8 times. I swear she was puking in every chapter. If not throwing up she felt nauseous in between the upchucks. It became comical. I started actually laughing every time it happened again and again. Then SPOILERS*** in the final fight she is described nearly every other line as being nauseous so the whole time she's in the final duel I kept thinking, is the vomiting going to serve an important purpose? Will it all have been for this moment? But no, Celaena is just very sick to her stomach all the time I guess. She needs to get that checked out.
@themadameoracle4901
@themadameoracle4901 4 года назад
Okay. Well, first of all: Celaena Sardothien never chose to be an assassin. She has been abused, tortured, her family slaughtered. Now, being an assassin has NEVER defined who she is. Shes sassy and sarcastic. The reason I loved this series more than any other series I have ever read is because SHE FEELS REAL. A lot of authors make their female character (especially if they're a badass character) hate all things "girly". Not Celaena. She likes chocolate and dresses and make up. But she also likes her knives and swords. She is an EXTREMELY well-rounded character. I actually never read the synopsis before I opened the book. And yes, the synopsis is eh. But if you actually took the time to read not only Throne of Glass, but also Crown of Midnight, Heir of Fire, Queen of Shadows, Empire of Storms, Tower of Dawn, and Kingdom of Ash... Sarah's writing becomes INFINITELY better. Throne of Glass was her DEBUT novel. Of course it isn't gonna be 110% perfect. But instead of posting why you "hated the book" and whatnot, actually read the other books As for me, this series actually saved my life. I was in deep depression, and then I saw this book on the shelf of my local library. If I hadn't found that book, I wouldn't be here writing this. Not only that, but Sarah has become quite a role model when it comes to my own writing.
@gerbiei.1370
@gerbiei.1370 4 года назад
I can definitely relate to you
@michalkatec.6841
@michalkatec.6841 6 лет назад
Okay the first one definitely didn’t live up but the other books are amazing especially Queen of Shadows The love triangle actually doesn’t stay, she goes into more relationships and ends up with a final one because she’s Well read the rest of it
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