I have had my setup (throttle and stick) for over six years. I have viewed it as a good (although expensive) workhorse during that time but only when I came to listen to your review that I realised mine does that," ........and then regarding stictions I realised " yes mine does that as well" and then something else which whilst not wanting to accept in using it "that too .... and that too". as it is a movement of the stick no initial dive on a target, I am firing off every weapon and flare at once and cannot yet figure how to fix. Your review is therefore very accurate, and given the choice again, I would no opt for another warthog system. Thanks for the honest review.
The Wart Hog HOTAS has increased in price even though being out for about 10 years, there have been no significant improvements, they just rake in the money. Your point about stiction is well known and again Thrustmaster does nothing to improve it. Even Logitech and their X-56 provides different springs tensions for their stick. I can't justify the price even though I would say it is one of the better HOTAS out there but has been super ceded by other vendors out there. Thrustmaster is letting third parties take care of their aging system and simply counting their money. (I understand they recently are working on new products though) You video is well done, so kudos there!
Great review, finally an honest assessment. I have had this hotas for 2 years, switched out the throttle a year ago and still have the stick. Absolutely no problems with the stick other than I am not fond of the centre detent. And it is difficult to get it to move smoothly once you've stopped outside of center. Keep up the good work 👍
I saw some spring replacements to make it less tight, however would it not be an option to just saw off a portion of the existing spring, reducing the force?
I found a P40 replica throttle, mixture, rpm lever set made by Gear Falcon. He's just a guy who makes levers and throttles in his home. I fly only warbird Era so it's perfect
I would give it a 4/10, there are many tutorials on DCS forums. The real problem is to get the correct partnumber, otherwise you'll have to grind in the stick itself (how i had to do it).
Bonjour, Merci pour cette présentation, Je l ai acheté il y a peu et il est extraordinaire. Je recommande vivement des supports de bureau pour baisser le throttle et le joystick au niveau des accoudoirs du fauteuil sinon, posés sur le bureau et même si l ensemble ne bougent pas, ça devient vite fatiguant pour les bras
i can agree about the base i have had many issues with it mainly the connector coming lose so i cant disconnect the stick anymore also i cant recommend the grip the switches feel cheap... i dont own the throttle so i cant tell you about that one but im already looking forward to upgrading to stick after minor usage...
So the sticktion is cause by the casting lines on the gimbal and the pegs that go through it. They can be sanded off for a huge improvement. I still want a warBRD base though for a smoother center detent.
The stickion issue you've shown, while present in a new warthog, is much less pronounced. I bought one new about a month ago and its almost not noticable but you can feel it and i imagine it will get worse over time. Also the slew button has been changed on the newer version as you meantioned. There is 3rd party options out there for those with older sticks if you wanted to change it out. It's also worth meantioning that the red button on the throttle is not great, its way to stiff and hard to pressure with you're little finger
I just bought one and I received the old model. I made a Yotube video about it if you want to check. Search for "Disappointing Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog purchase"
Great and informative video! I am a rotorhead but currently looking into a throttle setup for ED. I have been using my collective as a throttle for now but it does get a bit old. I am deciding between the Virpil, the Thrustmaster, or the WinWing. Cheers!
Not only Winwing but you have vkb and Virpil as well! But thrust master isn’t bad either it’s just over priced for what it is. Also the buttons on Winwing are horrible just all over the place imo it kinda throws everything off.
Listen. Because it's old doesn't mean anything. Winwing f16 stick is not necessarily better. The NWS switch for example ruins the look for me. Virpil or VKB don't make F16 grips. Now you could go for realsimulator but they also ruined their grip by making the pickle switch move 4 way, which is literally the dumbest thing ever, and also the trim switch is pressed in. There are no other options for f16 grips other than Thrustmaster if you want a full replica if you think about it....
