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When I got back into flight sims I started with the Thrustmaster T Flight HOTAS X, after that I swapped to the T16000M flight pack and it was a night and day switch. Now I have Thrustmasters S Tier HOTAS the Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog. This HOTAS isn’t cheap but Is it worth it or are you better off spending less for your Microsoft flight simulator 2020 setup.
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@macdee6040
@macdee6040 4 года назад
Fun fact, its the same Thrustmaster that Alfred used when he took over the Batwing when Batman jumped in the warehouse in the Batman V Superman movie.
@makedredd299
@makedredd299 4 года назад
👌
@Short_Shots
@Short_Shots 3 года назад
It was even in the new kong v Godzilla film
@skyeshepherd6341
@skyeshepherd6341 3 года назад
Owning a HOTAS Warthog setup for several years now I did not know about the afterburner lock! You sir, are a lifesaver!
@Spiniker0056
@Spiniker0056 3 года назад
Friction, substantial mass, steel, firm clicks ... you’re really revving my APU.
@Soundwave857
@Soundwave857 4 года назад
The TM Warthog is great till a cable on the inside breaks for no reason and you open it and see how bad and cheaply its made. I have it and had so many problems. I changed the stick base, added an arduino to the throttle and replace the slew stick. The value is like 90% for the external haptic and 10% for the electronics. The weight is only due to stretegicly placed steel plates and averything else is cheap plastic. I now own it for like 6 years. Its a great hotas put thes cheaped out to much on the quallity. The wires are so flimsy and just snap off
@after_midnight9592
@after_midnight9592 4 года назад
This is why I sold mine and bought the Virpil base and their T50 grip. Couldn't be happier with it.
@UnfocusedRacing
@UnfocusedRacing 4 года назад
I've had my Warthog for 5 years now and still love it. I've added the TM TPR rudder pedals and the Blackhog b-explorer button box all bolted to my flight sim cockpit.
@davelister9755
@davelister9755 3 года назад
dang, you got any pictures of your setup? it sounds off the walls.
@frozenoj8740
@frozenoj8740 3 года назад
Thanks for this as I think you have summed it up perfectly. I’ve only just got my Wartthog and am just playing around (Elite Dangerous & MS Flight Sim) and the quality of the build is so impressive as well as the precision. Good shout out about the need for pedals also, but that does add to the immersion for me. But, of course, also adds to the cost. It is a lot of money to spend, but when I considered the options, if you do have the money, then this surely has to be THE HOTAS. I couldn’t be more impressed even after using it just for a couple of days.
@gonuts4donuts
@gonuts4donuts 4 года назад
I've loved my Warthog HOTAS over the past year and a half. It's far from perfect stock, especially the stick. The spring is too stiff and the center detent makes it crap for desktop use as is. The best thing to do is mount it centrally between your legs and add a 20-150mm extension and the level of precision you get out of the stick goes way up, getting better with the longer the extension you go, and it feels much more ergonomic. I currently run a 150mm extension with a low desk mount and I would never go back to using the Warthog HOTAS without an extension.
@ColinDyckes
@ColinDyckes 3 года назад
Same here. A 150mm extension removes the 'stiction' and totally transforms the Warthog stick.
@ColinDyckes
@ColinDyckes 2 года назад
.. Using standard spring, in fact standard unmodified Warthog stick apart from the extension.
@_hiroprotagonist
@_hiroprotagonist 3 года назад
Really appreciate this video and your input. I'm learning Elite Dangerous and looking to the new MS Flight sim.
@will4real58
@will4real58 4 года назад
5:55 The step in the middle is for space sims, it's for reverse thrust.
@joelvarney5091
@joelvarney5091 4 года назад
Will4Real oh well, I guess I won’t post this exact thing.
@CatalystDestiny
@CatalystDestiny 4 года назад
Although if you want to go real deal space sim combat, you go HOSAS rather than HOTAS, the agility and response is just unmatched.
@Shadow__133
@Shadow__133 4 года назад
CatalystDestiny The heck is a HOSAS?? Ah got it... Stick and Stick 😆. I have a couple thrustmasters around, but it never appealed me. I like the feel of a throttle and use the thumbs for vectoring, plus it matches the cockpit virtual hands. I was interested in a 3d mouse, but they are too difficult to config.
@CatalystDestiny
@CatalystDestiny 4 года назад
@@Shadow__133 Yeah HOSAS is stick/stick. It's overwhelmingly superior to throttle in space sim combat because unlike an atmosphere flight model in space it's 6 degrees of freedom, so the second stick is used to control thrusters. What this allows you to do is have direct pinpoint thrust control on your offhand from multiple vectors all on the instant response of the stick. A throttle even with a thumbstick for thrusters still limits you greatly for how fast you can slide the throttle, compared to HOSAS users who just have all of their maneuvering from every angle all on the instant response of dual sticks.
@CitizenIosef
@CitizenIosef 4 года назад
or an afterburner detent
@moitoi4064
@moitoi4064 4 года назад
Ordered mine this weekend along with the Thrustmaster TPR, can’t wait to test them out.
@peterironmonger5678
@peterironmonger5678 3 года назад
Had mine for five years love it. Awesome for IL2 and elite
@moisesmouretarzaba1022
@moisesmouretarzaba1022 4 года назад
I recently put together a HOTAS Warthog piece by piece, as everywhere is out of stock. The throttle alone makes a hell of a difference. Being able to control all you need without ever reaching for the keyboard is awsome!
@F.Mendelssohn
@F.Mendelssohn 3 года назад
You sold me at the sound of the buttons!
@jimfrederich8852
@jimfrederich8852 3 года назад
This is my 2nd generation Thrustmaster HOTAS. I loved them both after putting up with plastic stuff before that. If you can afford it, don’t hesitate! Also look at the all metal Thrustmaster TPR rudder pedals that are very adjustable and have Hall sensors too. My favorite by far after having lots of plastic ones before it.
@LastRites47
@LastRites47 4 года назад
Watching the WAN show rn, but I have been looking for a HOTAS recently, cant wait to see what you have to say about this one!
@nocturnenoble2468
@nocturnenoble2468 3 года назад
I ordered the T.Flight One for Ace Combat 7 and Star Wars: Squadrons (and I guess Star Citizen one day...), saw your review comparing it to the T16000M, cancelled it an immediately placed an order for the FCS Flight Pack. But now only hours later and watching this I know in my gut that this is what I want... Even if I have to buy each component separately each pay cheque I know in the end I won't regret the expenditure for the quality products I'll get in return. Thanks for coaching me through these decisions!
@SeeTheWholeTruth
@SeeTheWholeTruth 4 года назад
YET! lol. Super Cool toys. Like to see you happy. You need to get paid for such a great indepth review. I want ingame vid!
@suryatiger3020
@suryatiger3020 Год назад
Great vid!
@i.r.wayright1457
@i.r.wayright1457 4 года назад
The Warthog will be cost effective when you have gone through a bunch of cheaper alternatives. I paid $600 for the three parts about 2 years ago and couldn't be happier.
@ronloveflying
@ronloveflying 3 года назад
Thanks for the useful information. I've just bouth the Thrustmaster T.16000m joystick and throttle. Thanks
@yooree4992
@yooree4992 3 года назад
great review!
@avrel820
@avrel820 4 года назад
Totally awesome :-) honestly other than Flight sims.. That kind of pack could be fun in many sim games like farming simulator only there will not be correct support for it.. Where as in sim games it would be awesome (example using it on a front loader or something like that)
@Labolas2Glasya
@Labolas2Glasya 4 года назад
damn dude you make me getting back int othat stuff. tha throttle and stick just looks insane and i cant imagine how aweome it is to play something like ace combat 7 :D so expensiv tho its hard to justify ^^'
@dther6314
@dther6314 4 года назад
I have that one, and using it in VR with Elite Dangerous. you can find better (and more expensive), but that's a really good Hotas, never regretted my purchase once
@bonidle726
@bonidle726 3 года назад
Recommend getting an extension tube for the Warthog joystick. Several options out there. Only 10cm but adds sooooo much to the control finesse.
@helbaco
@helbaco 4 года назад
I'm using the warthog for years in elite dangerous and I still love it
@rekaens
@rekaens 3 года назад
what are you using for rudder though?
@ReNewReViews1
@ReNewReViews1 3 года назад
I’ve used mine for around 5 years now, still love it!
@edgargloor2140
@edgargloor2140 3 года назад
wow cool to now it last long i want to upgrade to this
@BeTeK11
@BeTeK11 3 года назад
I used it 6 years. Now I have upgraded to winwing f-18 throttle and virpil stick + thrustmaster f-18 stick
@heeder777
@heeder777 3 года назад
I’ve had mine for 5 years and it’s as close to the full scale A-10 you can get. I worked on them for several years. The buttons are a tiny bit harder to push on the TM. You can always tell a new button on the A-10 when it makes a louder click. I have a new analog slew sensor from Delta electronics order to replace the one on the TM. One thing I did program on the throttle side is the sliding lever. I use it for zoom views. Real good for precision zooming of the views. Yeah it’s pricey but it should last a long time. If I recall you can get a stick for it that is modeled after the F-18 and F-16 about $200 each if there’s money burning in your pocket.
@sniffindrawz
@sniffindrawz 3 года назад
I got the stick with F/A-18 grip and I absolutely love it. I just sit on the plate and have the stick between my legs, love DCS in vr.
@glock17f
@glock17f 2 года назад
Thats a great idea! Just tried it and its perfect!
@sidplays77
@sidplays77 3 года назад
Upgraded to this combo about a week ago GAME CHANGER
@Trueflights
@Trueflights 3 года назад
for the record, that notch in the Thrustmaster Tflight is supposed to be fore reverse thrust in things that support that. It is really easy to disable though if you take the bottom panel off the throttle, you can simple remove the plastic track that causes that notch to be there.
@L0vetube1
@L0vetube1 3 года назад
ill go straight to warthog then... thx for the input
@null12383
@null12383 4 года назад
when you replace the lube in the t16000m and twcs throttle with some nyogel 767a, they are way nicer to use
@r3ady150
@r3ady150 3 года назад
Ive had this throttle for 3 months and now learning about the afterburner feature! I'm feeling out right now. I'm actually on my way to buy the stick Right now. I'm about to pre my pants😂
@iam5085
@iam5085 3 года назад
Great review, but I understood from other sources that it is a bit stiff stick, so an extension tube is recommended, in addition you may want to place the stick lower since its pretty tall, with and without the extension...somewhere between the legs. Table placement can be problematic based on the reviews.
@will4real58
@will4real58 4 года назад
I have a Saitek x52 I love it, it's not quite realistic but it works.
@blackaccordlx
@blackaccordlx 4 года назад
Completely agree with this.
@MsOpportunity68
@MsOpportunity68 3 года назад
Regarding the TFRP rudder pedals, I bought mine as a stand-alone device about 5 years ago. They actually came with the RJ12 to USB adapter included. With the RJ12, you are able to connect them directly to the T Flight HOTAS X rather then separately into the PC.
@artyboy1377
@artyboy1377 3 года назад
You gave me that final nudge lol.. Never a flightsim player (the 90s' JSF, Falcon 4.0, Red Baron them Pentiums just couldn't keep up) until Star Wars Squadron caught my attention. But it was DCS which drew me in, and shortly after MSFS 2020 came along. The Warthog cost more from where I am but boy do you get a lot for your money. The sense of immersion you get from the 2 metal studs on your desk is mind-blowing, this is no game this is a simulation for wannabe pilots! The best gaming accessory i've bought in my long years of hardcore PC gaming, definitely a game changer. Paired up with a TrackIR this is sim haven....
@RaXXha
@RaXXha 3 года назад
Afaik the F-16C stick and A-10C stick is the same stick, when they upgraded the hotas in the A-10 they decided to use the same stick as was being used in the F-16. So the standalone F-16 stick is mainly aimed at those who initially purchased the F/A-18 stick.
@Drinnan
@Drinnan 4 года назад
I got the Warthog a couple of months ago because my 5 year old cheap madcatz stick finally packed in. The game I play, Star Citizen, doesn't like switches for inputs, it needs buttons or you find yourself having to quickly flick the switch on and off again to make it work. What I ended up doing was buying a half dozen buttons from ebay and 3D printing a button box that is secured to the throttle box using the 2 pre-existing screws on the lower part of the box. I was going to just change out the switches for buttons completely but Thrustmaster has the switches soldered into 1 PCB so it was much easier to just solder wires on to the prongs of the switches. Also, now I still have the use of the switches if I need them in certain games but for now, this is ideal
@johnaustin704
@johnaustin704 4 года назад
Thanks for the information. The only problem I have with the high end Thrustmaster sticks for F16, A10, etc. is that they are and always have been for right hand use only, so I will remain at the T1600M ambidextrous level.
@sntxrrr
@sntxrrr 3 года назад
If you want high end and left handed go get the Virpil Constellation Alpha which is available in both right- and left-hand configurations. I have waited 20 years for there to be a high end lefty stick and now I have one and it's great.
@lyianx
@lyianx 4 года назад
4:31 the majority of the *Exterior* build. Internals are plastic as well. Which is kind of an issue for its accuracy, as some have complained.
@declinox
@declinox 4 года назад
I have dual Virpils for Star Citizen and they're great, but expensive and out of stock a lot of the time. I modded mine to add analog thumbstick throttles.
@MrWilliam932
@MrWilliam932 4 года назад
I have the exact same set up as you, the Warthog is just GREAT, there is no drift or slack to it and overall feels quite robust. The pedals tho, feel a little bit cheap even if they cost like a good 100$ they feel cheap, and not precise at all, maybe in the future I'll upgrade to the "new" Thrustmaster TPR Pedals they are expensive but I think it will be a great thing to buy. Also do you use some sort of Stand or something to put them? I'm using a Wheel Stand Pro And it's great, also weights a ton
@raptorman0
@raptorman0 4 года назад
Just some advise for any Warthog owners, had mine 9 years. If your grip shafts breaks then 3d printed replacements are available and seem stronger than the cast originals. It's the part that is used to c onnect the grip to the base👍
@bubblehead78
@bubblehead78 2 года назад
I've had mine just about as long (can't remember exactly). The stick shaft did break after a very hard fall and superglue has worked perfectly since then (years ago). However, where did you find 3d replacements? I'm interested in checking them out. Thanks.
@kenzer1614
@kenzer1614 4 года назад
When you really want to step up, you should look at VKB or Virpil.
@krhonn
@krhonn 4 года назад
Yeah... Those that are never in stock... Those ones everyone talks about and almost nobody has
@jankompan
@jankompan 3 года назад
If you want to step up, try MFG Crosswind rudder pedals
@nvstewart
@nvstewart 3 года назад
As good as the Warthog is, the annoying thing is the stiction when trying to move the stick the slightest amount, and that very strong center 'detent'. I bought a Virpil base with extension and it complements the Warthog beautifully. It is so smooth and you have MM accuracy no matter where you are in the travel zone. Makes formation flying, aerial refueling and weapon delivery a breeze. And that is without adjusting the sensitivity curves in DCS.
@WORLDGAMESETECNOLOGIA
@WORLDGAMESETECNOLOGIA 3 года назад
Virpil its beatifull but no funcional. the lack of buttons and Axis made me buy the Logitech x56 for VR.
@MiguelLopez-bo7ds
@MiguelLopez-bo7ds 3 года назад
@@krhonn They build it as it's ordered. It takes about a month from order to delivery. I wondered the same thing for the longest time, always going back to the website too see if it's in stock yet. Finally, I just ordered it after reading something from the website that says made to order. I just received my VIRPIL pedals a week ago. I ordered it "out of stock."
@oldgamerdufe2595
@oldgamerdufe2595 4 года назад
You should look at the TPR. Solid metal just like the Warthog. Same price, so expensive. But feels good. And no need for an adapter. Love mine. Toe breaks and resistance is adjustable. Check it out.
@effhakim2612
@effhakim2612 4 года назад
Hi, thanks for the review, keen to know on the specific adapter you were talking about to link TM pedals with this unit, do you have a link or detail model name please. Also do you mind for a detailed review and demonstrate how you optimise the usage of throttle unit particularly for DCS please, thank you
@ColinDyckes
@ColinDyckes 3 года назад
Thrustmaster TPR pedals are brilliant, but pricey.
@rustybuckets07
@rustybuckets07 4 года назад
Wait til you've had it a while.There is a bit of lateral play on the throttle bodies if you use them independently ,like I do, and the pinky switch is flimsy and wobbly right out the box.I've had mine since they came out and wouldn't use anything else ,but there are issues. My stick was bricked and needed a new PCB as well and the illumination for Flow L has never worked.Still the best out there IMO ,but not infallible. 'Stiction' is a well documented issue but I've been lucky so far and have had my 'Hog for years. I would love to try a Virpil out. Also as you pointed out rudder pedals are a must and changing up from a X52 and MSFF2 as I did takes a bit of getting used to,but adds to the realism.
@seebarry4068
@seebarry4068 2 года назад
TFCS is alright if you loosen the tension screw and I gave the inside rail a squirt of WD-40. I can make 1% increases now. I disable the twist axis in game.
@Dracossaint
@Dracossaint 4 года назад
HAHA I've had an idea that i think is kind of cool, a cover plate for an aio. You know when you have to run the aio wires between the thumbscrew area and up around the vrm in order to hide the cables the best you can. What if you printed a cover plate that friction mounted on the screws that hold the aio down? Bam no more wires showing and if you wanted you could even leave the top empty, this would allow for easy clearance of pump housing and if someone wanted to get smancy, they could cut a piece of white plexi and attach it to that, add a little bit of rgb and BAM
@Yarnb0203
@Yarnb0203 4 года назад
You have to same feeling that i have when air refueling with the t flight hotas x
@NotDumbassable
@NotDumbassable 4 года назад
Basically, if you need a video like this to decide on your first joystick, get the Thrustmaster T16000M. It´s the cheapest you should go and is good enough to not warrant a replacement if you decide to delve deeper into the whole HOTAS thingy.
@doggiehowzer
@doggiehowzer 3 года назад
Soooo I saw this on sale and I knew I had to have it. Like you, I have the HOTAS4 (PS4 version) first But I wanted something that could be mounted separately and the link cable on the HOTAS4 was surprisingly short. So the Warthog HOTAS arrived. Then I realised, it didn't have the twist or the rudder buttons on the throttle like the HOTAS4, soooo out came the credit card and for a bigger wham this time, the Pendulum Rudder arrived. Now I have the distinct joy of trying to find a workaround to switch between my driving pedals and the rudder pedals. First world problems ;)
@sterlingarcher4989
@sterlingarcher4989 4 года назад
I did exactly the same thing - spent £100s of pounds buying cheap, then getting something slightly better, again and again, until finally biting the bullet and buying the Warthog - never looked back, should have bought it straight away.
@tccummins
@tccummins 3 года назад
I've had that problem as well...it's what happens when your focus becomes saving money. Now, I tend to ask myself 'what is the reasonable level of quality can accept?' then find something that matches those expectations, so ultimately cost becomes a secondary concern. If you simply can't afford that level of quality then don't buy it.
@sqmouel
@sqmouel Год назад
5:04 We gotta get this man an A10C to review
@CharlesDSmith-mv7zi
@CharlesDSmith-mv7zi 3 года назад
One thing that sort of aggravates me is that TM is selling an F-16C Viper H.O.T.A.S (Warthog H.O.T.A.S with an F-16C grip) and an F-14C grip to put on a Warthog H.O.T.A.S. Truth be told, the F-16C grip is actually identical to the grip actually used in the A-10A and and -C. The grips in all three airplanes are the same grip. I have the A-10A, -C, -CII, and the F-16C Viper in DCS, and they all use the same stick. The F-18 stick is different, so TM sells the grip for the F-18 to go on the Warthog base. Don’t get suckered by TM’s F-16C Viper add-on stick. It’s a Warthog stick. No need to buy both.
@qlum
@qlum 4 года назад
Just have a single t6000m myself which I use left handed, I don't really play flight sims though, the closest I have gotten is warthunder on realistic. I would say that it's a nice piece enough piece of gear.
@daviddobson1056
@daviddobson1056 3 года назад
Hi, some great information. I’ve just started sim flying and went for the warthog hotas!Do you have any idea why my throttle won’t work with IL2 battle of Stalingrad but the joystick is ok! Thanks David
@AshenTechDotCom
@AshenTechDotCom 4 года назад
try Elite Dangerous, the step in the center will make total sense when you set it for forward and reverse thrust ;) space sims..boat sims... will use reverse throttle/thrust ;)
@icetea275
@icetea275 4 года назад
I would be really interested in a comparison video with the HOTAS Warthog and the logitech X-56!
@1HyperCube1
@1HyperCube1 3 года назад
I've heard that the X56's have a lot of quality control issues, squeaking, throttle changing by itself, and rubberised plastic getting sticky over time. I don't have any of these, but I'm looking to buy one for MFS2020.
@ThePurplePupUwU
@ThePurplePupUwU 3 года назад
Watching this makes me want to buy one, but I also want to buy a graphics card so I can also use it
@lukasletsplayytinfo5047
@lukasletsplayytinfo5047 3 года назад
To answer your "question" why the Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas X has this step thing. If you played Elite Dangerous you know you can fly backward and forward. And so that you are able to have a Point of 0% Throttle while flying. This is coming in really handy when you are doing combat
@KurtBliss
@KurtBliss 2 года назад
Thanks
@peytonhastreiter6866
@peytonhastreiter6866 4 года назад
I know what's on my Christmas list
@palindari
@palindari 3 года назад
Having recently purchased a new Warthog HOTAS from TM I have been extremely disappointed with half of the two piece rig. The throttle system is solid from top to bottom with it’s mostly metal construction. I even bought an upgraded joystick controller to replace that little nub that lies under the middle finger. Highly recommend it. Now the joystick... First, though solidly built, quality control is lacking as after 3 months after purchase, the #5 button started acting up and then just quit working. Plus the grip rocked on the stem forward and back and no amount of tightening the screws completely resolved it. The Warthog comes with a 2 yr warranty so I reached out, explained my issues and their reply was to send a picture of the serial number, a copy of the receipt and a video showing the issue. After complying, I was approved for repairs with a shipping label. Living in CA I had to ship it to Canada for this process. It took over a month to get it back. Now just under a year after purchase, the tension springs attached to the plastic gimbal are binding and “popping” when I work the stick aggressively or with finesse. Also the rocking is coming back and with it an added twist to the stick on the mount that should not be there. Now I have to send it back again for repair and wait another 5 weeks to enjoy game play. For the cost of the Warthog, I anticipated having a refurbished stick sent as I send in the faulty rig. But I guess the premium price doesn’t necessarily equate to premium service. A friend bought the Virpil Warbird base and put his TM F16 grip on it instead and loves it. Perhaps that should be my solution as well as it’s gimbal is aluminum instead of molded plastic.
@future1751
@future1751 Год назад
gonna pick one up, second hand, looks brand new, only used for 20 hours, 280 USD, absolute steal for this
@Peter-bakker
@Peter-bakker 4 года назад
Don't forgot the stick is the same as found in the F-16 and the throttle can be found in the F-15E aswell, so you got the control stick and throttle from 3 different planes :)
@OddElephantLTU
@OddElephantLTU 3 года назад
The F-15 E has the hornet stick
@Peter-bakker
@Peter-bakker 3 года назад
@@OddElephantLTU as i say the F15E has the throttle as well not the stick 😉
@gerrypi51
@gerrypi51 3 года назад
Concerning flight simulator 2020: are there game settings for the flight simulator as well? Does it work with FS 2020?
@argus3091
@argus3091 2 года назад
just a little something if you don't own the t16000 flight packand buy the tfrp rudder pedals separately the pedals will come with the adapter
@MackDreams
@MackDreams 3 года назад
9:25 what is the "adaptor"? you are talking about, to connect the T Flight Pedals to the Warthog Throttle ? ....doesn't the adaptor comes incl with the Tpedals ?
@ericandi
@ericandi 3 года назад
The Warthog flight stick also the same stick used in the real F16. Don’t buy the F16 stick. It literally is the exact same as the A-10 Warthog stick that comes with the Warthog set. That’s because the Air Force used the same exact stick in both planes.
@andreassheriff
@andreassheriff 4 года назад
I'm waiting for the yoke and helicopter controls.
@rayzimmermin
@rayzimmermin 4 года назад
the click in the middle of the T.Flight HOTAS X is for space sims ware that click is off and if you push up that is forward and if you pull back that is revers
@PassportBrosBusinessClass
@PassportBrosBusinessClass 3 года назад
X56 Rhino and Warthog HOTAS are the best possible choices. The problem is that DCS world tries to mimic the F14, F16, F18, A10 thunderbolt, and a bunch of other fighters as well as European models. The A10 thunderbolt has the same joystick as the F-16 but not the same throttle. The F 18 doesn’t share the same joystick or throttle as either of the other two. The F 14 doesn’t share the same joystick and throttle of any of the others either. When you look forward: the F 35 and F 22 don’t share joysticks or throttles with any of the others. I would say the X56 is best because it has so many joysticks/high hats/buttons that it’s flexible for the future even though it’s build quality isn’t as good as the warthog. The X56 has a twist stick and can also be redundant with the Logitech G pedals. Makes taxiing easier.
@andreasplosky8516
@andreasplosky8516 Год назад
Would have bought this long ago if it had featured a lockable twist axis. An A10 replica stick is a nice gimmick, but not important for any other fighter, spaceship, helicopter etc. one might fly. Virpil has more interesting options, although much more expensive.
@mandel4889
@mandel4889 4 года назад
If you dont have rudder pedals like me you can acually use your racing pedals in dcs :)
@WORLDGAMESETECNOLOGIA
@WORLDGAMESETECNOLOGIA 3 года назад
I have warthog, but the lack of buttons and Axis made me buy the Logitech x56, best for VR !
@Wh0isTh3D0ct0r
@Wh0isTh3D0ct0r 4 года назад
Lol. I've had my HOTAS Warthog for a few months, and I had no idea that I could pull the throttle back even farther! I thought I was already AT the "Off" position!
@djsnoopmike
@djsnoopmike 4 года назад
Someone didn't read the manual
@alelalle
@alelalle 4 года назад
5:10 i think i just came a little! jokes aside, i love the hotas warthog! and if you can afford it then go for it. you wont be dissapointed!
@fishernate1
@fishernate1 3 года назад
It's so expensive now. It's nearly 1000 dollars, which is kind of ridiculous.
@elchuzalongo4339
@elchuzalongo4339 3 года назад
@@fishernate1 yeah, it seems cool and all, but I'm paying for a HOTAS that's more than my PC
@Waltzyy
@Waltzyy 3 года назад
@@fishernate1 Where did you find one for 1000? Every Warthog i found in my country cost 300 to 400 usd. Also just bought one for 320 usd.
@lukaskubat9966
@lukaskubat9966 3 года назад
Hi, thx for nice review. Can I ask You. Is it possible to play any simulator with this setup? I mean DSC, Elite Dagnerous, Star Citizen, MSFS 2020 .... I am still hesitating about Warthog or VPC MongoosT-50CM2. Thx for Your respond.
@jeffbanfieldsflwr3537
@jeffbanfieldsflwr3537 3 года назад
I have buyers remorse for a soda i bought at the Cubs game 5 years ago.
@Trueflights
@Trueflights 3 года назад
I like you videos, but it seems you only even consider Logitech stuff. have you ever even looked into other companies? Even Logitech wise, they pruchased Saitek now and offer a much wider selection that I would love to hear your thoughts on. The x52 and x52 pro are amazing hotas setups. I would love to hear your thoughts on those and others compared to the ones you have already reviewed.
@killerbite_
@killerbite_ 3 года назад
holy crap how long do u have to talk about the weight just get into its features XD
@inyoudeep1
@inyoudeep1 3 года назад
He's trying to justify paying $850 for a controller That he will rarely use.
@brolee6830
@brolee6830 3 года назад
so bummed to find out you cant twist stick for rudder... gonna get the rhino now. thnx for the help.
@ShadowstrikeS99
@ShadowstrikeS99 3 года назад
Hey Major, Thanks for the video I am looking into getting my first HOTAS and the Warthog is really looking appealing to me. I was just curious in your professional opinion is this not a good stick because it doesn't have a twist stick? Is this necessary for a better experience? Should I look for a stick with twist? I am planning to play Star Wars Squadrons with it. Also Im hearing some people are disappointed with the quality due to some components being made at plastic? Did you feel disappointed in this? Anyone who has some input feel free to chime in! Thanks for your help fam!
@dinamitemaster
@dinamitemaster 3 года назад
Concerning the twist, the stick not having it was probably an intentional decision for several reasons: a) the real Warthog stick (or any other plane stick for that matter) doesn't have twist on it; b) the twist rudder is less accurate than pedals since you usually twist the stick a bit when you move it around; c) when you drop this kind of money on a HOTAS most people will get the pedals for the full experience anyway. In my opinion having twist on this stick would make it worse because it would mess with the solid feel of it. Of course, this means you pretty much need pedals alongside, unless you are happy with binding the rudder to buttons or something. This HOTAS is really going more for the simulation audience. That's not to say you can't use it for other stuff, I also play Elite Dangerous with it and I couldn't be happier, but it really shines with more hardcore/realistic games. In more arcade-y titles you might actually be at a slight disadvantage versus someone with an X52 for example, since they can swing that thing around much faster since it's so light and plasticky. Concerning the plastic components, the only real place where I think this is a problem is the stick base; the inside is mostly plastic and some people (including me) have had problems with the gimbal not travelling as smoothly as it should and sticking a bit when holding the stick off center, which is quite annoying. Can be solved by taking it apart and regreasing it though, but many think that this kind of problem on a 500+ dollar stick is unacceptable. I also managed to break my base by twisting the stick too hard when taking off an extension, so that's something to watch out for (it was fixable but a pain in the ass). The rest of the stick and throttle feels very well made and sturdy though. The solution many go with (and which I went with as well) is to buy an aftermarket base (something from Virpil for example), which is night and day better and uses all metal insides. However, that's another couple hundred dollars added to the price so you might as well buy a complete setup from one of these smaller manufacturers at that point. In a nutshell, despite a couple issues this is by far the best mainstream stick available IMO and the only way to get better quality is to go for boutique brands, which of course come with a considerable price jump.
@ShadowstrikeS99
@ShadowstrikeS99 3 года назад
@@dinamitemaster Thanks for the info! I greatly appreciate it I got a Logitech X56 in the meantime because I cant find a Warthog lower than $1000 right now. I figured if I get this I can get Logitech Pedals next as well!
@dinamitemaster
@dinamitemaster 3 года назад
@@ShadowstrikeS99 Yeah, unfortunately flight peripheral prices have gone through the roof recently because of Microsoft Flight Simulator. Hopefully this will make more companies consider bringing out some new stuff, the market could really use it. How are you finding the X56? That was actually my first choice and I probably would've got it if I hadn't found a good deal on a used Warthog with pedals. Is it worth the money?
@billwright7054
@billwright7054 3 месяца назад
you need to check out the Turtle Beach flight deck.
@seebarry4068
@seebarry4068 2 года назад
This looks amazing, I’ve wanted one for years. But. It’s only the exact-ish copy if you’re flying an A-10. As soon as you decide to fly say, a spitfire, it’s just as inaccurate 1-1 as a saitek. The quality looks off the chain though. If you literally only fly A-10’s, it looks near essential.
@TheWillz02
@TheWillz02 3 года назад
Lol so he upgraded 3 times in like 4 or 5 months -.- looking for a starter hotas Shoot
@Waltzyy
@Waltzyy 3 года назад
Same thing happened to me, bought the Logitech extreme 3d pro for XP11 before FS2020 came out, then bought the Thrustmaster airbus sidestick for MSFS. Then after few months of MSFS i got into DCS and now i just bought the Warthog HOTAS.
@broughswenson651
@broughswenson651 2 года назад
I’m a paraplegic and don’t have the use of my legs. Is there an easy way to convert something on the joystick to rudder control? I’m really interested in this stick because of the realism, so I’d like to keep everything as close to the actual thing as possible, I just need to change that one item.
@kc_was_here737
@kc_was_here737 3 года назад
Wish they could have built in z axis on stick for rudder control. That's the only thing holding me back from getting it.
@MartWithanM
@MartWithanM 2 года назад
wait until he hears about virpil
@octagon97
@octagon97 3 года назад
The stick does not have twist function, so if I don't want to have a rudder pedals, is there any alternative ways that could replace the twist function? Keyboard? I play both FS2020 and DCS.
@petterderter6354
@petterderter6354 3 года назад
LMAO I HAD THIS FOR ALMSOT 2 YEARS I DIDNT EVEN KNOW THERE WAS A OFF
@Flow-.-
@Flow-.- 3 года назад
How much u get urs for?
@archenemy2242
@archenemy2242 3 года назад
The only thing holding me back from this is so many people are commenting on the reviews from amazon saying after careful, but regular use, this thing breaks within a month or so. I have no issue spending the premium for this, but i want it to last. Any recommendations for something that is premium feel but actually lasts a lifetime?
@thehistic5205
@thehistic5205 3 года назад
if you want to ever upgrade your base to a mechanical one look at virpal bases
@Batsboem1
@Batsboem1 4 месяца назад
I found it second hand for 250 dollars and in my country new it cost 500 dollars and most 2nd hands cost between 300 and 350 so great deal in my opinion
@xxSgt_Aryes
@xxSgt_Aryes Год назад
12:38 what adapter and whats it look like on their site because under their PC section i didnt see one....or may have missed it
@richx9324
@richx9324 4 года назад
How about the new Thrustmaster Airbus setup they got coming out...still find it hard to beat the warthog
@hesynergy
@hesynergy 4 года назад
I love the fact that you are so in love with you Thrust Master but… I think you’re gonna find that you need to amend your comments as to the composition of the stick and rudder… Stick a magnet on a stick and stick another magnet on the throttle I don’t mean the throttlebody I mean the throttle and tell me is it magnetic or not and if it’s not then it is pure stainless steel or it’s not ferrous at all. So fracking what that it’s pot metal...It’s got the weight and I feel that you want and that’s all that counts. Welcome aboard! Chas
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