Thumb Ring Basics - Design, Material, Use 

I'm glad to see the original shallow hook Fletcher Dynasty ring is still working. Lol thanks for a great tutorial my friend we all appreciate it!

Guys, I just wanted to share about the ottoman ring with the protective leather lip. I am Turkish; After watching Armin's prior video I contacted the producer Bekir Büyüksındır who is also Turkish. He is custom making the rings to your finger(size/fit) from a price I(a poor Turkish Student) find very affordable(I bought one). I was sad that you will most definitely won't find this Turkish craftsman on amazon/ebay etc. and I wanted to share. I am not related to the guy nor does he know I am writing this comment so I don't think it would be right to share his contact information or prices :( Armin you are the greatest instructor ever. I love your videos

Great resource Armin, thanks for taking the time to make it! The one thing I'd add about the Ming/Gao Ying is that it is even more of an expert's ring than some of the Turkish "shallow hook" ring styles. This is because those string guards really hide the feedback from the string, so you need to know what you're doing with the string without being able to feel it. The string pinch on other rings is unpleasant, but is very very instructive! It teaches the balance you need in order to move up to the most advanced designs. Just my thoughts. :)

Korean traditional way. Plant an ox horn from a slaughter house in the soil for one year or for several months so that you get clean bony stuff. Then cut .

Nice review, thank you! In my 8 years experience of shooting only thumb ring, I found that horn rings are superior, they donțt brake (or very seldom) they donțt get old, like plastic ones that are more prone to splitting over the years, and they have a flex that allows you to feel the string and "weight the bow" in order not to use more force than necessary. The metal ones are not flexing and they are uncomfortable on cold weather. For beginners though, it is better to start low poundage and leather protection until they get the move. I make my own rings and also for my students from buffalo or cow horn and I make an unique design developed over the years.

awesome as always! very informative and chill videos as enjoyable as archery itself =) im gona get a thumb ring

Thanks for the info, love the new intro and logo. :)

Thank you for the great information.

Another very interesting video Armin, the shallow hook t.ring looks very interesting ! I love Dan's ring, I got used to it now and feels very natural. Thank you for the video :)

Glad to see and learn about deep hook and shallow hook

Bekir's leather thumb rings (with the kulak) are great. No pinching and no pain. And he's a lovely chap!

Excellant explanation 👍

First of all... crazy beginning! The new Intro is amazing! And then... the one from Bekir ist amazing, however the callus seems still like the best option (still working in mine...)

Thank you for that lucid demonstration, Armin. I will order that hard leather ring. I have been using a soft leather tab, I find my horn korean ring and my plastic Sarmatian rings to take a bit of getting used to.

Yay! Thumbringssssss!

I've only shot with Mediterranean draw, but I want to learn thumb release. Glad I sub to you, bc you provide information that isn't really found anywhere else on RU-vid. I still haven't decided on a ring yet, trying to figure out whats good for a beginner, but also durable and just a good ring in general. Amazon has cheap leather ones for under 7 USD. But I get the feeling they won't last long. Anyways great video as always Sir Armin.

More good info.I got to learn to do it first.

Hi! Mr. Armin😀Good to see your video. I've been away from archery. I'm almost without a thumb callus.😅👍 When come back to practice, may need one. It would be a good idea to try to make one out of PVC just for science proyect. The one I have is soft leather and I don't normally wear a ring. As always thanks for the information video. Cheers.👊😀

The struggle was real... I bought a thumb ring that made out from some sort of plastic an amber colour piece of beauty. On it's surface a fly would fall on his arse as they get used to say in order to describe how smooth it is. I still no have any bow below so I gone for my 50# draw weight Fekete Bég made by Jozsef Monus the White Wolf. I were hit a 60x60 cm polyfoam target from 180 meters and a 1 square meter target area round a flag pole from 240 meters by this bow. This is my world by the way. My thumb was burning from pain. I wasn't able to shoot more than 8 or 10 shots in a row with my every day bow. The pain is beyond description. And twist my lower arm into a different angle was also Hell of a struggle! I almost failed to full draw my own bow. Than I felt an unnatural tension in the bow as well like it would want to twist or brake. Regardless how careful I was and I were watching every social media video about khatra and thumb release in general and I analysed all footage frame by frame for better understanding. Still no progress... Aim made it way worse. I don't see the arrow on the right side of the bow at least the frontal third of it is missing from my view. If I twist everything so badly to see the arrow and the target than without of a khatra the bow shoot dangerously out to the right. Pull the same weight by a single finger than I get used to pull by 3 finger under technique is not possible without learn everything on a 25-30# super light bow first. And I highly recommend don't even try without help from an experienced archer mate! Not to mention I saw no gain! Guys who thub draw don't shot more accurate as farther we go my adventages just keep growing and soon or later they give up compete with me. In theory by khatra we supposed to be shoot stronger without all the friction between bow and arrow, almost like a compound bow with a drop-away rest. we didn't see it in flight archery. Penetration in close targets are significantly better but they never shot farther as I do even by my own very same bow and arrows when I gave it to them to try their best. I still have that thumb ring but buy a weaker bow only for thumb draw just doesn't worth it. Maybe one day...

I like that you are using the Okcubaba bow for this. A great value for the money, tough as nails, easy to take care of. The better bows are better and worth every penny, but I don't need that to have fun. And I my heart does not skip a beat when I drop it... ;)

Super!

I will try horn thumb ring.. nothing experience use horn ring. Thanks you for great reviews 👍👍👍

Too,too,too,coooooooool!

Good informative video Armin, I'm not used to thumb ring but I bought myself one, my local tournaments and competitions consider every thumb ring a release aid (like a compound bow release aid) and as such I don't often shoot with it as it's a completely different technique. It's a great deal of fun though and I sometimes get out the ring after some period of shooting, the arrow on the other side and the way of "not aiming" makes it a very enjoyable challenge. Something else, a thumbring is very easy to keep with you in your archery gear, must be easier to make then a glove too!

thank you for showing these! I want to learn thumb draw, so I started w/ light draw weight bow and leather pad. found out that my thumb doesn't bend well due to injury, so shallow bend it is!

I use a Victory from Vermil out of Silver Plus. Great ring with a guard but you still feel the string.

Question for you Armin. You mention in the video that the Manchu thumb ring should only be used with longer draw length bows. Why is that? Fantastic and very helpful video as always. Your videos are helping me very much. Thank you!

I make a leather thumb ring inspired by your previous video, it's good to use for beginner like me, however It always fly out as when the arrow shot 😅

Hi Armin, Just a year now into my archery addiction and feel I came quite a long way thanks mainly to your ever so relevant tutorials. Thanks for inspiring again to use this technique. Imediately improved accuracy by 10%. I use a shallow hook Gao Yin horn ring I made. It works well but I do destroy the string servings quite fast despite using beeswax on them. Any suggestions? Thanks

Thank you Armin for another very informative video..wonder if you would pick a favorite thunb ring for employing string twist..my ring has a arrow holding spur on it and is a bit challenging but then i usually shoot bare thumb most of the time

Ordered 2 from amazon but there are still in their way. So I have to use some soft plastic and fabric to make a temporary one. Thumb is no longer sore but the release is not very clean.

Hi there! Any chance that you do a review of a Fu Hao and Nubian rings from yuwenbow and Custom Thumb Rings? Appart from that, thanks for uploading so much material lately. Keep it up!

Hi Armin great video - what was the name of the company that produced the hard leather thumb ring Please

Hello Armin.Great channel sir. Just wondering what your thoughts are on string walking.

In my opinion nothing beats leather. It's tight, you don't have to adjust it all the time, you don't lose the feeling and you train your thumb so you can shoot like Armin one day, without a thumb ring 😁 Also, you don't have to worry about the size. That's a big plus! That being said, there is a certain pleasure in matching your thumb ring to your shooting style.

Nice! What was that first bow in the vid, Armin? Did you do a review of this? i've must have mist it... ;(

Hi Armin! Great Video.. as usual. Question :) is the shellow(?) hook stressing the thumb more than the standard hook? I am not speaking technical wise, i just mean physical. Have a great time there!! Greetings from coronaGermany..

Is there a prefered Ring for long draw ? 35 + inches. Still shooting with my homemade leather " ring " 7 th or 8 th generation Thx Armin stay safe

Ive a question about my thumb ring, its brass and fits well however my thumb is still very sore after shooting with my thumb bruising, ive been shooting eith thimb ring for about a month, do i just need to condition my thumb or is this a serous issue?

Does it matter the thumb ring for heavy poundage.. or it just a same as that I used for regular one???

Might be a stupid question, is there a glove with the thumbring attached, this would solve the rotation problem, dunno?

It looks like using a thumb ring back wards does the same as the Korean military ring holding the ring instead of the thumb

One thing I cannot figure out is how should a shallow hook thumb ring fit on you? I have the one from Alibow and I get it over the joint of my thumb and after rotating 90° there's no chance of it coming off but it also is very loose and able to slide freely between my thumb knuckle and joint. I cannot get it to snug up on my joint neither. It just hits bone and no matter how hard I try and get it to stick, it just slides back down toward my knuckle as soon as any force is applied on it. Also, are you supposed to be pressing the large surface against your middle finger and the groove is behind the contact surface or are you pressing the groove itself against your middle finger?

The lightest bow I have is 30lb and no matter what I try I can't get a shallow hook to full draw the 'proper' way. No matter what I do, the string slips between my middle finger and the ring. Even when i prop the bow up and just try to pull straight without trying to worry about form. It just doesn't hold. I can get away with a partial angle, but not the straight on near parallel angle that Armin is showing.

Is it possible to shoot a turkish bow with no ring? I'll be buying a turkish bow next month, I'm trying the thumb release on my recurve and my thumb is calling for help after 15 shots.

If u want to start with thumb release how much pounds should we use

Is there a list of sellers somewhere? Google isn’t much hand. 😂

Glad to see and learn about deep hook and shallow hook