Tiff Needell Learning To Drift  

+Dave L and me lol

Crikey. If I was gunna learn I'd choose the smooth easy power delivery of a 350lb/ft V8 with around 350hp, but I am a mere mortal. I drove a 1jz with a big turbo that was said to be making around 450hp and it took me a little while just to learn to drive that smoothly, in a straight line, on the road.

+Dave L or a centrifugal supercharger

more power just makes it easier unless you're a total novice driver

+TRIGGERED Dude, it's the type of power. A NA or supercharged motor with 600hp will feed the power on in a relatively smooth fashion but a turbo will be quite tame until it get gets to a certain number of revs then EXPLODE with power. This makes the turbo 600hp much more difficult to master than the NA or the supercharged 600hp. But I would completely understand you not knowing the difference if you are a novice driver or indeed a novice to Motorsport and cars in general.

They do drift racing as well.

In this case, Tiff's background is actually hindering him. He holds on to the steering wheel WAY too much which is why he's losing the car on corner entry. As someone who also has a primarily circuit racing background, it's almost impossible to resist the temptation of clutching the steering wheel. But, as they pointed out in the episode where they taught Johnny how to drift, letting go of the steering wheel is pretty much a prerequisite in competitive drifting (since the steering racks are so slow).

Where do they do drift race exactly?

@Vulcan Gamer they aren't racing though you actually lose points for overtaking the lead driver

@Vulcan Gamer it literally doesn't when they're tandeming the aim is to imitate what your opponent does unless they spin out or go way off line

+Frederico Schmitz AE86 "Hachi-Roku" would be my choice...

@Mulholland Magazine well he's not doing regular driving here bud

@Mulholland Magazine I have no idea wtf you are saying. All im saying is he cant drift for shit just because he's done some racing. Racing and drifting are very different

@Mulholland Magazine definatly is exept in drifting and rally letting tires slide in any other motorsport is a big nono could you imagine spending 20 years focusing on not letting a car slide and now being asked to do it with confidence

wolfie239w Roses are red, Violets are blue. My 2JZ goes ZUTUTUTUTU

wolfie239w its a lack of BOV. when the throttle snaps shut the compressed air from the intercooler is forced back to the turbo fins and makes that sexy noise. shorter the intake pipe on the turbo is the louder the noise is.

***** That sounds suspiciously like Hectic Habib's VL Turbo poem... LOL!

***** That sounds suspiciously like Hectic Habib's VL Turbo poem... LOL!

If Tiff was presenting TG along side with Clarkson it would be completely different from what we have now... Opps, used to have then T.T Tiff is mostly likely to win most of the arguments as he is a much better driver than Jeeza and the role of the Stig would be unnecessary.

WY Lau It used to be quite similar when Tiff used to be on TopGear, but yeah, maybe the Stig wouldn't be required. Tiff could easily have been the Stig all this time anyway.

***** He has also appeared on Top Gear a couple of times as the "Back-up Stig"

***** Thats cauz Tiff is a good friend of Clarkson.

MrCrashandFootball He is. And also VBH.

Davide P ooopopopopopopoppopopooopopioooooo

+lanianddomo apparently that is no blow off valve and air being returned to the turbo instead of exiting via blow off valve

+wiredsk8r Turbo flutter :D

+Mike Deme stall the engine or not locking the rear tires

+Mike Deme and probs blow the driveshaft... heavy clutch over 500hp and cluch kick on a hydro handbrake? yeah tiffs fault 100% watch the run again, he clutch kicks it with the handbrake fully up... novice mistake

+Mike Deme then its hello wall.

Weve all done silly stuff while drifting, shit happens

noone gives a shit

Agreed. I even think that drift cars are tuned in a foolish way... for example, like in this video, adding a turbo from a truck will give a lot of turbo lag, a lot of heat (less power) and will only make the car much harder to drift and drive. I don't understand why everything must be so exaggerated in drift cars. Why adding a normal turbo and tune the suspensions to make the car oversteer a lot can't do the job? It's an easy job to set the car like that.

Drift cars arent setup up to oversteer, theyre more like drag cars with lots of steering lock. More rear grip = more speed, smoke and angle. but to overcome the extra grip you need lots of power.

TheOriginalPierat Ok, but then why not just reducing the grip at the back instead of doing weird things like adding the turbo from a truck?

+Snarl616 Because that will massively affect your score. reducing rear grip will make you slower, have less control at high angles and reduce smoke produced when sliding. Grassroots drifting is completely different to comp stuff. most comp cars now run upwards of 800 bhp and wide semislicks at 10-20psi with steering lock in excess of 70 degrees.

why would you want it anyway its old hateful rusty toyota

sound similar to an old bus

no comparison. clarkson is just a fucking retard

DJ Dragon Torque equals tyre spin, tyre spin equals car spin. Plus the more limited rev ranges of big V8s and V10s gives you less to play with. Having a long, distinctive sounding rev range is useful when you can't look at the tach! Besides, simple smashing it with 8.4 litres of truck engine is just brute powersliding, not actual drifting.

So do you have to ... Clutch, handbrake, turn, letoff handbrake then accelerate? Im 14

+12,420,666 views something like that, on rwd car only what you can do when not using clutch with handbrake is you can break car

pulling the hand-brake without the clutch won't do shit to a typical rwd drive-train

Tiff does an amazing impression of Itsuki in this video.

***** It is, and it just shows how different a driving skill it is. I grew up driving rear wheel drive cars, MKI, MKII Escorts and then Cossie's, also had a few years rallying and I can Scandinavian flick a car with my eyes closed (including front wheel drive cars using left foot braking) and I'm comfortable using a handbrake, but I'd describe my drifting skills average at best. It's a completely different kettle of fish. Make no bones about it, Tiff is a phenomenal driver, so I think given time and practice he'd master it. He's also a thoroughly decent bloke.

+Daniel Wenham It cant be far off ! Julian looks like a sprightly young fellow :)

+John Smith You remember ten years ago?!

+g0dbel0w yes

Drifting with 4wd is highly looked down upon, not a good idea

Look up Flemming Alm and Kenneth Alm

where have you been living?! ever heard of ken block?

@@mwmmatt1 'looked down upon'? fuck off haha by who? these retards?

@@James28R honestly I'm surprised I left that comment, I don't agree with it at all now haha

alxuria its simple Scandinaviam drift - turn left/rght before left/right , call it Inertia Drift Drift - keep the car sideways long as possible

does it look like that's rally driving to you?

Agreed, legendary drink drivers...

Actually, pro drift cars are built to be as high traction as possible. Aerodynamics, low tire pressures, and suspension settings for drift cars are set to allow the car to keep a forward bite as the tires spin to allow for acceleration in drift. Without that grip the car would slow down very quickly in mid drift.

ray britton Correct, if you watch some jibber jabber from the judges stand around 2002-2004 you can clearly hear Orido and Tsuchiya agreeing the wing doesn't actually help drifting but it looks cool as fuck. It's hard to pin point the DVD round from D1GP but it's probably on youtube somewhere.

HenryMania Thank you sir. Don't care what the others were saying. It definitely doesn't help a 'slip' event. Wings aid 'grip' events.

***** I strongly but respectfully disagree. Rear wings provide downforce usually at high speeds usually, obviously it also depends on the angle of the wing so if it's steeply raked it would give more downforce at low speeds but compromise top end and vice versa. anyone who knows anything about drifting knows that it's not about high speeds mopre drift angles and tire smoke, in most cases even though the cars are fast as fuck with usually an insanely ridiculous power to weight ratio.. they actually don't go that fast in competitions. which would mean that the wings wouldn't serve much of a purpose exept for aesthetics

So true

+Oblio1942 It's a drift car not a Ferrari

Totally Winning Pro Gamer implying drift cars arent supposed to look good

Oblio1942 No they mostly aren't. They're suppose to function well.

Totally Winning Pro Gamer youre thinking of drift missiles

What?

hahaha