TikTok Cult? | 7M Films and Miranda Derrick Case Analysis 

Also you hear Robert telling them to play the race card, so it makes you wonder....

Exactly!!!!

There’s videos of the boyfriend traveling and spending holidays with her family he actually live with them for a while

So convenient for him to play the race card. The other sister just married a black guy last month in May.

I'm pretty sure Robert put that in his head and told him to state that. He is trying to make the family look like they are in the wrong any way he can to take focus off of their claims about him. Her and her husband are both victims of mind control.

exactly!

Same thing really, just varying degrees of delusion and subservience 🤔

Words of Wisdom. 🙏

His humor puts his channel over the top IMHO.

Nah. They have an agenda and would try and impose it on Dr. Grande.

How would Netflix help in that matter? RU-vid is already free for "all" but you need a paid subscription for Netflix. Dr. G. is doing just fine here on RU-vid 🙂🌵

We’d all love that!

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But even those thats not..would say so too🥴

A cult is only thought of as a cult by the people outside it.

@@lindaedvardsson4218 yes so what's true? 🤣 Or should people, who are not in one, begin to say yes I'm in a cult, because then we know for sure they are not, because people in a cult most likely deny it 😁

@@elinazariel Right.. 👌🏼.. just wonder🥴

I loved how he said that! 😆😆😆

Hahahahhaa yes

Glad you pointed this out hahahha

Sheriff👮

@@bthomson Ah yes! Sheriff Grande. Don't be spelling his title wrong. Dr. Sheriff Grande. 😇

He's not the only one. I recently discovered that there are other channels that covered this story 2 years ago as well. Apparently, this is old news now just published by Netflix. Smh.

Finally societal awareness is being raised about my plight!

@dee dee 🤣🤣🤣

@@OccultDemonCassette haha! That setup was perfect 👍!

This is why demons are into such bad stuff, they can’t make an honest living!

My mom dated a demon. She dumped him because he never worked. "It wasn't his fault mom, I told you Demon Employment Discrimination was a thing".

2:28 here in Albuquerque NM up nursing a baby. 🤗

Thanks for being a teacher. We loved 😍❤ my girls' teachers. Not an easy job.

5am, getting strong reenactment of good tactics to engage the world. be present, be able to listen , stay positive:) stay positive y'all

I get that!! 😅

3:20 am insomnia sucks

Yes it is clever subtle manipulation and love bombing.. "we are the thing you're looking for, you are special, we have special knowledge that only special one's can learn, it's us agaisnt the world, no one but us really understand the truth, we have the only real truth, we send you special invitation to this special isolated place because you are a chosen one, we love you as you are as long as you agree in everything we say and do, our leader is the ultimate hand of the true entity or true entity, to be "loved" by this leader is huge honor so you shouldn't say no or bad things happen, if your family and friends are worried/against us, they dont understand and need to be left out of your life, you should also submit us everything you own to become pure and show your commitment/loyalty . " these are some examples but there are a lot more red flags too.

@@elinazariel All the "food groups" are represented here. Remember the Dole pineapple heir that gave her 85 million to the Transendental Meditation cult (banned in India, loved by the Beatles) and then she sued her family and the "iron clad" Will set up by her parents to avoid JUST THIS ISSUE. Taking advantage of the vulnerable and basically MENTALLY ILL should be a serious FELONY in the USA, along with all this on line elder abuse.

A form of Gaslighting...a crime that's not recognized by authorities...

@@elinazariel Very astute words to avoid the trap. Its as though they stalk the Y in the road. Either choose your own intuition seeking knowledge in a safe space or yes...come hither " We will enlighten you to a glorious rebirth" Again, criminals, narcissists, sociopaths, always exploit a temporary vulnerability turning it into a permanent mental condition unless they can escape. Enjoyed your comments wisdom.

@@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki Agree 100 %

I’m also going to need to sign over my worldly possessions to the NOT cult leader.

Somebody should make a cult named "Church of Definitely Not A Cult"

Who in this group has cut off their family? Miranda has receipts she put out that she had an argument with her parents and have tried through out the year to get her parents to listen to her. Everyone else is talking with their families. There has literally been no family member (except the one fight with her parents) saying they are concerned for their adult kids in this group.

Have fun. Cult member once you start to feel like a victim come out and let us know how your family members were abusive and that is why you joined the cult. Sincerely Realistic

@@flyingmomlaura8723 That’s not what the families said. Think what you want.

I have a friend that is in a religion when the family found out she was "living in sin" she wasn't allowed to see her family for 1 or 2 years. I don't remember which. 🤷I don't agree with it either but some religions are like that. I'm not in any religious class so to speak.

They're even worse when you come back.

Agreed.

Oh yes! Think about the actress Leah Remini, she is like a one-woman war effort against that cult that gets a lot of Hollywood people in. I can't remember the name of it now - - the one Tom Cruise is in...

@@bluecollarlit yes his in Scientology cult that stalk on people through and after you leave

Especially if you’re making them lots of 💵.

An important comment! Education is a great protector!

I think it's kind of reductive that you just need education to not fall for cults. Cults have pretty bad PR in our culture and they still get new members every day.

@@blainehancock I didn’t mean to insinuate that it would absolutely protect my kids from joining a cult one day. I’m open with them about how drug and alcohol use has negatively affected people I care about, that doesn’t mean they won’t try things one day, I just hope that education will make them examine their choices and have a better understanding of consequences. I think parents can neglect educating kids about certain subjects because it’s hard to talk about. For instance In the southern US we have historically taught abstinence only sex education and yet we have the highest teen pregnancy rate.

Getting sucked into something that turns out to be bad for you doesn't happen quickly. It can be subtle, they romance you into it. It's like the boyfriend/girlfriend who acts like your dream partner then turns into a psychopathic stalker if they think you even looked at someone else.

A Christian insurance agent? Sounds like a conflict of interest. Believe...but have a Plan B.

Good to hear you are well now 🙏

An intelligent and kind thing to do. 🇸🇪

I think most of the LDS missionaries are sincere and have good intentions. However, the ones I have met are woefully ignorant about their church's history and even some modern doctrines. Two sweet young girls converted my brain injured nephew a few years ago. He thought he could find a pretty young wife and have help from the church when he needed it. He later realized it did not work that way. He read about the Mormon treatment of non-Mormons in the early years, and he was done. Is a brain injury survivor an appropriate target for conversion? I say no n

@@lisamcdonald2877 I'm so sorry. The church for sure takes advantage of people with disabilities. We are indoctrinated from a very young age that everyone needs to hear the gospel for the "plan of salvation" to work. Members are constantly asked to give names of people fir the missionaries to visit. There is so much pressure to convert people. And we aren't allowed to find out anything about the leaders or church that isn't church approved. Anything but that is deemed antimormon. So most youth who are willing to serve missions are completely ignorant.

@@marablake344 perhaps the leaders have not realized that many non-Mormons have learned about their church's early history as well as some doctrines that strike "outsiders" as bizarre. Baptizing the dead, wearing special underwear once baptized, rituals and costumes that are nea duplicates of Masonic practices are all examples of off-putting LDS things. They should at least prepare their missionaries for questions about such matters.

This "process" can happen in the workplace, families, and communities, too. It's a "tool" for control, usually by ONE person at the top.

Excellent post! Not much more need to be said.

Dr. G should’ve given you a BIG heart for this…

And/or criminal backgrounds, active drug addictions, reasons to escape from their personal problems

And sexual perversity…every one of them.

Many organizations depending on the situation support separation from families including AA, Alanon, and Child Protective Services. It depends on the reasons why.

I don't understand why people just say absolutely anything without knowing what they are even going on about. Miranda literally has her own social media accounts (it makes no sense what you are claiming anyway, considering it's being claimed she's in a cult that heavily focuses on those involved making an impact on social media) plus she and her husband are on other social media accounts.. plus they do other things in the general media and the arts world.

It's not against the law to belong to a cult. Or be a so-called cult leader. You cannot be arrested for that. It takes many to leave & report sexual abuse or financial abuse. Often it is financial crimes that can bring about police investigation. But the prosecuters need many victims to come to report to police before victims can get justice. It is not a simple thing. If you are an adult & decide to work for free for a cult or are treated poorly the authorities think you are not a minor & you made the decision to follow a leader of your own free will. So good luck w justice. Step 1 leave the cult get free & start life over.

@@g.flesch9731 that’s great! You’re so smart!!!

Hang in there yt friend glad something brought some joy for you !!

@@TCGhottie Aww thank you! You’re very kind😊

I often have insomnia when it’s a full moon.

Demons have loved ones to support too like Familiars such as talking cats.

Many would say HR departments ARE filled with demons.

@@Sinsteel yup...

It's time for the demons to form an union to fight for theirs rights!

Same!! Not only James and Miranda Derrick - who are AMAZING to watch - but Vik White who still has family fighting against the Russians in Ukraine 🇺🇦 I 💚 their videos! I really hope that these wonderful people are in good hands and not being taken advantage of. 🙏🏽🙏🏽 Also - I have family members who would 💯 be against me being in a relationship with a black man and block me in the drive to address the issue. They were awful to my family members who are in relationships outside their race. Soooo - I am not sure. I understand how painful it is to have someone you love distance themselves from the family though. Plus I have zero respect for Paula White. Still, that doesn’t mean they are in a cult. It just means that there are people in pain who need our best thoughts and prayers as they navigate their struggles.

@@PurpleIrishSweater Her sister (Melanie) is engaged to a black dude (NFLer Austin Ekeler) and is seemingly both in a fine/normal relationship with their parents, and also saying Miranda is in a cult. So yeah the "racist family" bit from Melanie/James seems to be exactly that--them "playing the race card" to cover up the fact they're in a cult lol.

But ultimately Derrick & Derrick make their own decisions.

Intellectual promiscuity? Ugh!

Yes! Perfect comparison!

better yet, they should get a hold of Leah Remini - as she speaks of cults as well, just not Scientology'

@@JustMeDG i almost feel like Leah is for advanced stage parents - but beginning stage ‘my family member is in a cult’ ppl should have Catherine to start. At least, if it were me knowing virtually nothing abt extricating my loved one from a cult, id prefer the warmth and guidance of Catherine but after i’m learned and really pissed tf off, I’ll contact Leah, human-sized pitbull ha ha (although, pit bulls are darlings so not using them in a derogatory way at all)

@@LiddlestLady not versed on Catherine but Leah is the real deal

Catherine is badass! Much respect for her 🙌🏽

@@jaedynwood2252 for sure…just like Wu-Tang, she ain’t nuttin’ to fuck with!! 😉

Both sisters were dancing together on tic toc The daughter who did not join 7M was ghosted by her sister Miranda. The parents & sister have been actively pursuing getting Miranda out of the church & the tik toc dancing. Miranda rejects leaving 7M. The family of this woman was told not to be aggressive in getting Miranda out of the cult because it might have retaliation on Miranda within the 7M. IMO Miranda's family needs to let it go. If their daughter wants to leave, the cult expert said just show that you will be supportive if she wants to return to her family. The parents & especially the sister need to move forward w their lives. Miranda is an adult. She has told fans she is OK. Just let her decide. One day she may leave 7M. You cannot force these situations. Other. Members of this cult have left but have been unable to get the leader Robert Shin to be arrested on sexual abuse charges or financial misdeeds.

Thank you, very well written. When I was young 40+ years ago I went with friends to a small church in a small town. The pastor made cry. I don’t remember anything more. But I was scared and angry, it was some psychological and emotional abuse, I felt ashamed after that. 🇸🇪

Very well said, and I agree wholeheartedly. Reminds me of Jim Jones, Wild Wild Country show, movie Midsommar, etc. Yes, greed and other human qualities will win in a situation like this. Sad for the innocent people that get involved.

@@martinasikk6162 I’m sorry by you had to experience that. It’s a common theme in religion unfortunately.

Meh. It's not like cults are illegal.

😂

If this is a "cult" then couldn't we compare say maybe The Boy Scouts of America or any pyramid scheme really a "cult" .... no seriously? Why is this such a HUGE ordeal when these people don't look in danger, on drugs, all married and pregnant by one leader, getting ready for travel to Mars, actively recruiting other dancers.... these adults have free will. The Catholic Church is a Cult. I know, I went to Catholic school. The Kingdom Hall - Jehovah Witness's is a cult. Really any form of religious organization that isolates their religious beliefs from other religious beliefs can be put in a "cult" category. People evolve. People become self aware and sometimes choose to remove toxic people from their lives. Sometimes those people are family. I haven't spoken to a sister 15 years because she is an Evangelical Christian and looks down on me because I have pagan beliefs. What is a modern cult?? I'm assuming we are all have some type of cult behavior just from being alive. We are manipulated by the media daily into believing what they want us to... we give our money to the highest bidder because they have convinced us they are the only real ones taking care of us. Example- health care benefits. Product selection. Car choices. Food choices. Please stop using the term cult unless its 100% a proven cult. The Church of Satan in San Francisco is a Cult. My mom was in Lifespring, now labeled a cult. It was her choice. My mom had free will. This is a religious organization that has control of its dancers assets.. in exchange for whatever they agreed to. It's a contract they, as adults have agreed to. Not their family. If they lose money I guess they'll learn. Just like if my sister works for a company that told her if she joined their "team" her life would change. Everything was perfect at first... a year later.. treated her like shit, didnt give her a raise for 5 years and only offered her the bottom of the barrel health care benefits. Yet, she was trapped because it was all she had and couldnt afford to leave. It took her 3 more years to finally get out. Sound like a cult? No, why not?

That is not a choice

There can still be coerce, like DV rlshps

She was nuttier, but they joined forces to rid themselves of all responsibility, so they could kiss-kiss, be total gluttons and live it up BIG TIME before the end of the world. So tragic here

Indeed they fit the bill of a cult.

Indeed. Chad was from a fundamentalist mormon off-shoot that was obsessed with the apocalypse... small Christian sects seem to be some of the scariest cults these days. I really hope they get out before its too late

WOW Great point. LORI VALLOW AND CHAD DAYBELL FOR SURE. Jeffrey Epstein too. It’s about trafficking.

I actually don't think she's part of a cult at all, it's just her family are crazy

@@WTC-1990 Exactly the parents and her sister are the crazy ones trying to control her choices and decisions. Miranda is a grown woman and they act as though she is still a child. Her sister kicked her out of the Tik Toc account they had together because she does not agree with Miranda's choices yet makes it seems as though Miranda is the one to blame for the fallout. It takes two to tango and her parents and sister have the mentality of our way or no way plain and simple.

I liked it better long

Same here. I first saw Miranda dancing to Earth, Wind & Fire's "September" on my feed. I was completely mesmerized by her! She is incredible. I wish I knew how to watch them dancing to the whole song.

Me too...I was obsessed with Miranda's and Vik's videos for awhile but never had an inkling about this.

His motivation is money.

That’s called “Christianity”

Same 👍

a trades worker would say "screw you", a Masters' Degree in something is trained to say "Tell Me More"......look at the Bagwan: loads of people who gave all their assets and moved to Antelope, Oregon and a lot of them had advanced degrees.

Oh gosh the moonies are truly something else. Vice has done some solid coverage of them and it’s where I first learned of it. I’m horrified they’re readily present in the states now - and dabbling in politics & fundraising. When on an outreach, I had the joy of having two Korean roommates and we would stay up late most nights just talking. And the Moons and heretics were common topics of discussion and I believe I was actually the first to ask them if they knew anything.

@@lindseyhendrix2405 If you're curious, check out the newspaper "The Washington Times". They own it.

@@lindseyhendrix2405 And BTW, DID your friends know anything? I'm guessing I'm quite older than you. Back in the 70's, EVERYONE knew the term "Moonies". Now, not so much.

If my mom spoke like dr grande I 10000% percent believe we’d have a good relationship lol

You're part of his cult

Thank you Michael. 💜

This largely happens in TV dramas. It is frequent only in your imagination.

@@eadweard. i dont watch TV dramas. This is a thing especially down here in Montgomery Co Texas

@@violetedge83 This is more likely than it being a cult but that’s not interesting enough to go viral 🤷🏽‍♀️

I tend to agree, I've heard stories about her mother being a piece of work being extremely overbearing and mean to everyone around her

Definitely a cult. There have been over 31 girls who have sued the leader of 7M cult. They are also well known to be child traffickers.

Yeah that really dials up my suspicions as well....

@@KS-PNW right?! I mean this like David Kuresh but maybe a little bit more sophisticated. Which is even more scarier.

It's actually not an uncommon belief among even mainstream Christians.

@Heidi Stabbert right. Xtians, mainstream, and fundies all have a sick and twisted belief that the end times need to come, and they'll basically do what been to bring it about.

To be fair... I don't think "preparing for the apocalypse" is necessarily a cult-- it is what the definition they have for the apocalypse that is the issue. If "Apocalypse" means nuclear war, pandemic, ecological collapse, then not a cult. If "Apocalypse" means alien impregnation, mind control, lizard people invasion from the center of the earth.. .then CULT. ... but Zombie apocalypse is probably ok... :D

!!! Wait a damn minute…I’m in Pullman. What’s the cult?! Gotta keep an eye out lol

@@RandomRU-vid123 Until they start running for local office and filling government positions...too late by then.

Maggie - Sunshine is in between so I think you are ok!🌞

@@MaggieCat1998 hah! Small world! I go to the university of Idaho! 😂

It's very sad to me to hear about white supremacist groups and other cults that have moved to Idaho in the last decades.

Love bombing. Invites to special dinners and church to indoctrinate.

Also, I don't know how it was in the US, but in the UK there were limits on numbers of attendees at funerals during covid plus travel restriction. I couldn't/didn't attend the funerals of any of my grandparents, we weren't that close either (physically or emotionally).

I follow several true crime channels, but their videos are SO long. I appreciate Dr. Grande's short, but full of information videos about the current questions.

💯 I can't believe he would even discuss this

Even IF it is a cult, kJ is not capable to even help. She even might get someone hurt. This is why there are so many lawsuits

Contemporary culture teaches us to believe every accusation of racism unquestioningly. So naturally you are inclined to believe it. There is no evidence to suggest it is true however.

Do you believe every family of those young people to be bad people?

Jim Jones was in my great-uncle's statistics class in Indianapolis. He invited my uncle and his wife to a People's Temple service once, and they went. They thought it was pure horseshit, with staged faith healings, and so forth.

Unfortunately he almost sounds like he got all his information from her. I felt like I was listening to one of her streams....but not on her channel...you know 😉