Part 2: Students turn at the double blip/jab zap and punch log technique show in the first video: • Tim Coleman Master Cla... Watch 4 slow motion clips at the end and comment below what each student may be doing wrong.
That's awesome. First two nailed the first blip, front wheel hit the log well, rebounded well, loaded the rear suspension. They could have gotten their weight back a little bit more for the second blip to keep the front up a bit for the landing. 3 needed some more speed. More momentum. He also didn't use his body weight to help compress the suspension to get that bounce right before the second blip. 4 chopped the throttle way too soon on the first blip. But they all did it better than I can! ;)
I had similar thoughts, student 1 and 2 were very good, but just needed the weight a little further to hold pressure to the rear. Easier said than done! Wait till you see me try...LOL
@@PrimalEnduro 1&2 ok. 3rd pulled the bars and because of that lost his balance and started to lean left, at that point he wasnt commitet to obstacle anymore and was focused on stayin up. 4 did not preload suspension and because of this he had no traction on the rear wheel and drove into the obstacle. also used too much throttle anyhow (bike too powerfull for his skills in this kind of riding.
@@sakariputtonen2683 I would agree with the exception of Student 4. He said "I got no lift" but he did...it was just too soon and he caught the log on the down stroke ...but yes going to fast to start with...
I dig your videos a lot, I came for Beta 200 but I stayed for all kind of videos you upload. I wish to see more footage of you riding that beta on this kind of technical training, hope someone filmed you too!
@@PrimalEnduro I just got a 2010 KTM 150XC. Absolutely love it, it's so much fun and rewarding! I really would love to try the Beta 200 someday once I can afford it. I've ridden a 2016 KTM 200 and always thought it a near perfect bike but wish it had a 150 frame instead of 250 or perhaps it's own frame for it's size. What do you think about these 3 bikes? Great content! P.s. I just created my first edited video on RU-vid. Let me know if you have any feedback :). Cheers PrimalEnduro
Irk it helps to be able to slow wheelie standing before attempting bigger logs. And when lifting the front wheel, you want it to be coming down onto the log exposed to still rising and skimming off the top of the log. Once you land the front wheel and the suspension compresses agressively drop the clutch and grab the throttle also jump forward on the bike. Back off the throttle and pull in the clutch when youve got enough momentum to carry you over. Hope that helps :)
Student 1 & 2 did it perfect. The next one kept his weight back too. The one that one over started his compression too soon and was already on the way down when he hit the log.
Good analysis! It's obvious the one that went over was already too far down when he hit the log which drove all the energy into the ground along with him! Maybe he just let off too soon on the initial lift and the engine braking brought the front end down quicker than he anticipated?
@@roaddogdrc he had no chance with the front end hitting the bottom half of the log and driving it into the ground instead of up. Made for great slow motion though...;)
1 and 2 did a great job. Number 3 I think transferred his weight rear wards not getting proper compression on the front, and maybe could have given a little bit more power, possibly because he was unbalanced and weight rearward he already felt like his front was up more than it was. Number 4 (more like my riding ability) I didn’t see him compress the suspension at all, he dropped the clutch, spun the rear wheel which gave him no lift or drive.
I was tempted to comment on the 4 examples but consider how over analytical I am about everything, I'd be here for an hour breaking down what I feel went right and wrong :D
@@richardtharp1608 On the XC your first gear is a bit taller than the XCW so I would say 1st gear is what you want. Remember it's not about moving fast, it's about moving correctly! which eventually = fast!
Come on Primal Enduro, We can Hear how low your Revs are when you Do your Moves.. You're on a 4 stroke and the Bike has plenty of power to Do the Moves.. Quite Frankly, I Don't have a Clue, but We Hear Your Low revs while the Slower guys are Whing Dinging.. Your Explanations are Awesome, but WE Need some info on Technique and Suspension Setup For Sure my Friend.. I mean when you do a Slow front Wheelie your Front Doesn't even Move Down.. Your Springs, or your Valving are Different from my AER forks with a Mid valve on the Compression Side.. Can you advise us Pls.. Thanks for your Awesome input !!
@@richardtharp1608 Haha Richard, don't confuse me (PrimalEnduro) with Tim Colman (Instructor in the video) I have zero skills compared to Tim and have no right giving advice. But since you asked watch how time moves around the bike, it's more about what his body is doing than the power or suspension setup. The more body movement you put in the more you will get out. AER forks are very good for technical riding so if they feel too stiff just let some air out. I run them all the way down to 115 PSI.
Rider 1: Front tire hit too low on the log, no discernible blip. Rider 2: Almost perfect, but chopped the throttle a little early and the nose dove on the other side of the log. Rider 3: Good form, but ended up offline when the front tire deflected, so the back tire ran out laterally instead of climbing. Maybe a small lack of commitment, if I'm splitting hairs. Rider 4: Well this bloke is just showing off, mate. Nothing left for them to learn. Forgot his seat belt. (basic wheelie fail.)
I think the 2020 TPI's are much better than previous years. They get better and better every year. But for me in the US riding the same elevation 95% of the time, I don't see the point. We have a few TPI's in the group with no problems yet.
@@DiDoSvK I know it's only some that have issues, and with the internet those few people that do are the ones that post. Glad to hear from someone with more than 50hrs on one declaring them problem free. I would say 260hrs has passed the test! I still don't see the need for the added electronics and complexity other than emissions which doesn't help us here in the US.
@@PrimalEnduro i own a 2018 husqvarna te300i 165 hours on changed the piston in my garage on 148 never done it before all you tube also replaced oil pump with piston as it was recommended old piston still looked good no issues with my baby
Students 1 and 2 did it right, but not very clean (body movement could be more exaggerated, with higher amplitude, and timing could be more precise). Student 3 approached not squared, and forgot about all body movements except weight back for wheelie in the beginning, so he kinda only made first 25% of the technique (didn't do compress, deweight and forward body movement at all). Student 4 failed completely (he did absolutely nothing except opening the gas)
#1 Late with the wheelie so catches the log on the way up. So, no suspension compression before zapping over the log. Yielded success only because the obstacle was small.#2 Looks very good! Maybe a touch heavier zap to elevate the bike more before striking the obstacle with the rear tire. If I'm being really critical he could have carried a bit more power on top of the log to bring the bike level to the ground instead of nose-down. #3 Good wheelie but does not compress suspension before zap. Not enough energy in the zap either. #4 Too fast approach. Wheelie is early so falls too low on the obstacle. No chance at going over the obstacle.
Best analysis posted. I noticed the things you mentioned with example #1 and #2.. Key point being load the rear suspension too as the front wheel hots the larger log.. I think Coleman/Birch talk about this in other videos I have seen.
I'm assuming knowing how to slow wheelie standing up is the key. If you are not able to land the front wheel in that sweet spot, it ain't gonna look pretty.
Student #3 has his chain so loose that he probably slipped a dozen teeth on his sprocket before the tire got any spin. Yikes buddy...a little maintenance maybe?
The stupid music doesn't allow us to hear how & when the riders the are using their throttles. It would be more beneficial to people trying to learn what's happening & how to apply throttle successfully if we could hear the engine.