Time Team S18-E07 The House of the White Queen 

Totally! I put it on for background pondering while I glaze my pottery. Love how thought - provoking it can be.

Time Team does wonders for mental health - especially now!

I often listen to old episodes I've already seen while falling asleep. So pleasant and relaxing.

@@ziizification ha so do i if i'm sleepy in the afternoon

Nothing puts me in a restful peace like the sound of Phil joyfully scraping clay off a Bronze Age artifact with his spade.

I love the look on the digger operator's face at 9:50 as Phil is explaining that he HAS to get to the bottom of the dig!

We should all try to be more like Phil 👍

@@PatrickMHoey :. I couldn't agree with you more. Nothing better than a person with a positive outlook. Love how giving him a piece of flint to tool and he is in seventh heaven.

Catching? Or catchy?

Well, that's his function. He is there to ask the silly questions for us.

That's right! but he uses his British ways of poking and prodding with humour that cuts sometimes, pushing it and this is how my mum was. "Silly Bugger," felt harsher than she intended but when your a Canadian kid you don't get it and take it personal. Watching Coronation street you learn how it is. That said, he did a great job at keeping us stimulated, informed, never guessing and always nicely surprised or curious; and the shared laughs with the TTeam.

@@elizabethmcglothlin5406 , And he seems to know exactly what I, with no archaeological knowledge, would have asked, could I have!

I enjoy this program as well. I have any that are available on you tube on my watch later folder. I will say however that some of Tony's questions or comments seem set up. Don't know, maybe after all these years he's become quite the amateur archaeologist!

Some of it is "directed", yes.

If you take a close look (and I do since am going through the series the second time around) you will notice that every dialog on camera is either completely scripted or directed and rehearsed. There are so many examples where you can see they messed up with the staging of a scene. And there is a Time Team Special called "Behind The Scenes" where you can see Tony reading and memorizing his lines or waiting for the signal to rush somewhere and and engage some archaeologist in a dialog.

Because it’s not shitty ass American tv. There’s nothing real about anything they do.

Yes there is some “organization” but that’s fine because all ‘non-improvised dialog’ is archaeologically driven by ‘what they imagined before’ and ‘what they are actually finding’. It’s not like a script is written, sure Tony gets some fixed dialog and set questions for the boffins, but there is no doubt a ‘Continuity’ person who keeps track of what shots they have and what they might need to add. But with that said, much of what they say is improvised as trenches yield objects. And the personal elements are natural.

Wow that's awesome

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any relation to Lady Jane Grey?

@@sassytbc7923 yes... great grand daughter of thomas gray, elizabeth woodville's son.

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Canuckmom1958 I know the feeling. Miss him too. Also; the word “verklempft” really sums it up.🤓

Christa Simonsen I like that that everything is explained for the archeology novice.. It's actually educational which has contributed to its success..Thank you Time Team..

And more like the talk show trash nowadays

And for the compliment: clearly not everybody thinks the rest of us are morons.

Her history is awful. The Greys were not the original residents of Groby.

Ricky Maveety ok, I'll bite. Who was then, in your expert opinion?

I was thinking the same thing... Do any of the property owners allow continued excavation or do they fill it all in! Cheers, from Vancouver Island BC :)

Cable,,, I don't even have a T.V, not had one for many many years?Bliss, choose what I want to watch or not, and NO adverts, or Richard Heads yakking on about fartball!!

I just stream from wifi, so I get a lot of free watching, no ads and buy streaming from Acorn or BritBox if I want more.

If you actually want to learn about these people and their actual lives, please don't try to use the totally fictional Daughter of Time as your guide. It's a good read but completely speculative.

@@joankrawitz The Daughter of Time is a lot better than any of Philippa Gregory's books with all that water magic stuff. Josephine Tey did her research, considering for the time in which it was written.

The Sunne In Splendour by Sharon Kay Penman

Yes!!!! A fantastic book!

@@joankrawitz While the *setting* is fictional, Josephine Tey did her own research, going back to primary sources, as she describes in the book. Therefore, it is not 'totally fictional'. She even gives all her sources in the course of the story.

"Ohh, eh!"

Some say his hat has magical powers !

Me too

And the ending to this episode was a bit anticlimactic...grr!

Most of our ancient cities in the UK still have vast amounts of archaeology under them. Much of Roman London is relatively intact, although a lot of later stuff is damaged by cellars and piling the 1960s for the Brave New World. I've worked on a few excavations in Bristol, which is a late comer of a city, probably not existing before the early 10th century AD. But my speciality is rural archaeology. I do a lot of geophysical and other surveying with a community archaeology group: we started with a search for Roman pottery kilns in a village near Bristol called Congresbury, and since then we've worked a medieval priory near Weston-super-Mare, a hill fort, medieval castles, and loads of other sites: have a look at ycccart.co.uk if you want to see what we've been up to.

That's fantastic! It's so nice to be able to Trace ancestry so far back in time and it is just icing on the cake for news about your family are Grey's

@@dianneledford3681 Yeah, it's been interesting tracing my tree. I've been doing genealogy since I was 15. I have ancestry from Scandinavia down to the Mediterranean, and Native American.

Fun fact for you: Thomas Grey's granddaughter Mary Grey married Edward Seymour, the eldest son of Edward Seymour, Lord Protector to Edward VI. His uncle was Henry Seymour, my 14th great grandfather through my maternal grandmother.

The property is sandwiched between a very busy, noisy highway, and some urban sprawl. So even though that little patch is green with lawn and bush, it's not very desirable. And the English Heritage people would want it to go to someone who has given them a plan of use. What is he going to do with all the very important historical bits? Well, have them properly investigated by Time Team and the local uni. Also, the last standing "habitable" structure would be CAREFULLY renovated, preserving as much of the original structure as possible. The fireman would have had to GROVEL for the right to restore the house. He would have had to give EH a plan of what would be repaired, AND THE MATERIALS HE WOULD USE to do the repairs. Is it going to be a private home, or a business? What sort of wear and tear could be expected? If the fireman's answers please the EH people, they would have been only too happy to give him a VERY good price. Because the fireman would be doing the government a favor; taking an extremely important money pit off of their hands. The fireman is going to have to foot the bill for the renovations. It is to be hoped that he will have a network of friends in construction, who would be willing to provide free skilled labor.

@@SandraNelson063 Thank you!

Love of his job is the best!!

Jan Benson This is not a BBC series, this is Channel 4

Thanks for the correction

so tired of idiotic over generalizations. Don't be so lazy/prejudiced.

I am also glad there are so many episodes. I just plain like British TV better in general, though I am sure that it has its share of 'losers,' too. I started watching some British sit-com 6 months ago, and boy, it was DUMB. RIP, Professor Mick. I always look for that old colorful striped sweater of his.

What idiocy show there are lots of them thats why i dont have one

In fact Phil's two favourites words are "A pint"

And Mick was 4 years older than Phil.

alison webster It was filmed in 2013, so he would have been 63. It’s now 2020 and he just turned 70.

He could have inherited monies.

Jehan SanzTerre morning

@alison webster aye, but no mention of the mass migration of asians? Methinks that is far more detrimental than anyone from the US.

N Hansen AGREED! I wish they lasted longer. 3 days is not nearly enough time to go back hundreds of years and get a full picture.

Soooo...what's with the three day limit on these digs?

@@momszycat4148 Many of the sites were taken up by local, or at least other, archaeology groups; TT's premise was to make archaeology more accessible and interesting to ordinary people. As Mick remarked, in three days, they could get a good grasp of what was going on in the site, and further information would take months to gather and examine; and TT has actually gone and revisited some of those sites after more was made available.

Brittney Mae Their goal is doing what’s called “survey archaeology”; it’s not up to them to do the “full picture” dig.

@@RKHageman No the full picture is not going to happen in a survey dig. That said, they themselves have lamented on occasion that they wished that they had more than four days for a dig, and have even gone back and did a second dig on some of the sites.

+NolaGal2601 They connect rods that pass all the way through the tower and stabilize the bricks. On Street View (here: 52.663047, -1.226655) you can catch a glimpse of both sides of the tower.

As Stannous Floride says, they connect iron rods going all the way through the building to prevent the walls moving outwards by the weight of the building. In Denmark they are called wall anchors and on churchtowers the often are formed as crosses but can take any decorative form such as numbers forming the building year or initial letters for sponsors.

You've zeroed in on exactly what was going wrong at this point. Mistakes/lack of thorough research in many episodes, along with more time spent in artificial arguments and/or Phil waxing lyrical about one thing and another (they figured out Phil was popular but I think they over-played his role and under-played other diggers). Once in a while in earlier seasons they used Philippa Gregory as an "expert" and pretty much always let her dominate the conversations, but she's clearly lopsided in her data here.

Lisa Kilmer do you think that's what led to the show being canceled?

filigree - I'm humbled that anyone wants my opinion! I read Raksha Dave's blog about the show's demise: they moved the studio to Wales to save expenses, and in so doing lost a large part of the production crew. They also tried to "spice up" things by bringing in new young hosts who did ridiculous antics, and if one watches closely one can see the lack of research as well. Apparently the air time was changed over and over as well, which confused fans and resulted in lower ratings. The show retained a lot of its magic but as viewership declined I suspect it stopped being profitable enough. It had to be hugely expensive!

Hugh de Grandmesnil was referred to in an ancestral status and as being the first to build on this spot. The video then goes on to examine the different structures and the family history related to it. The episode was not titled “The Grey Family”.

@@lisakilmer2667 I get so tired of people using Philippa Gregory as an expert on the Wars of the Roses. She may be a professor, but she's first and foremost a novelist and she always slants her interpretations to suit her fiction.

They fill it back in, but often other groups come behind them and mount extensive digs.

melissa thompson does the owner of the property required to slow the digs?

@@sassytbc7923 not sure exactly what you're asking, but if they don't get permission from the owners, they don't do it.

that's right

The fireman seems to have sold the house. Here are some recent pictures and info: www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/property/see-inside-former-home-lady-1616207

@@frauzorn2914 wow, he did a beautiful job!

I have wondered the same thing. IT would be nice for them to have more time so they can re-discover the entire site instead of 3 days worth.

budget constraints. it's all very expensive! Mick decided 3 days was the shortest time in which they could really make some proper conclusions. they did go back to a few sites more than once, with years in between each time.

Mick said 3 days is what it takes to get the idea of what going on at a dig. They're at the site only to get the general idea, not do a full dig. Although there are some time team episodes where they did need more than 3 days because some sites are complicated, but still cut it off after 3 days. As for those iron "S" shapes on the brick house, they are stabilizers for the brick wall. They're bolted into the inside wood frame reinforcing the brick, preventing it from cracking and separating. They're common around old brick chimneys. They come in "X" shape also.