Time to assemble the engine for our Model A Ford | Redline Update #20

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Davin is back in our shop and ready to start assembly on our Model A Ford engine. With freshly machined parts from Ron's Machine Shop (watch that update here: • Pouring Babbitt bearin... ), Davin torques down the weighted and balanced crankshaft before making quick work of the piston and rod assemblies. Pistons get dropped into the block along with lifters and camshaft to keep moving the build along. Watch and learn as Davin talks about some of the quirks that go along with assembling an engine that's almost 100 years old.
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@Hagerty 5 лет назад

Our rebuild is complete! Check out the full Redline Rebuild time-lapse video now: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GGn-5VoS-m8.html

@arlingtonhynes 4 года назад

Hagerty Love this video, but the cameraman needs to sober up and settle down.

@n5vgq1 5 лет назад

My dad who was a old school mechanic in the early days, I am 72 now. He would tell me stories of how things were done back then. One of his stories was from a shop he worked in that had a stand that had stand for wearing in the bearings that used another engine that would rotate the engine you were wearing in. He said that they would turn it for a while then tighten the rods little at a time tell they were seated in to where they wanted them. He also told me a story about that once in the shop they were working on a model T . They had installed the rear end up side down . When they went to test drive it out, they drove it into the back wall of the shop instead of out the door. I could just picture that in my mind. I love to listen to all the old stories he told about the old day's.

@ronalddaub7965 4 года назад

The process was called burnishing the Babbitt and they smoked but only with oil

@leonardohernandez1871 3 года назад

Me imagino que ha de haber sido una muy bonita experiencia la que viviste con tu padre, que días tan gloriosos, si señor!!

@renatoigmed 5 лет назад

this must be by far YT's most exquisite motoring channel. He is the mechanical version of a chef in French haute cuisine. a gourmet machine shop.

@Chironex_Fleckeri 4 года назад

Wut

@Chironex_Fleckeri 4 года назад

Congratulations, you have written one of the most pretentious RU-vid comments of all time.

@P1Gman Год назад

I could not agree more. This is the Iron Chef of car shows. But, @ViceGripGarage is the Bob's Burgers of car shows, which to me, is exactly what I need after I watch all this smart-guy, matching numbers stuff. Hmmm, sparkilators 😎

@_BAD_MERC_ 5 лет назад

The antiquated technology to determine clearance and bearing assembly is astounding. I cannot imagine the amount of engines that were trashed because of insufficient knowledge or clearance during remanufacture or rebuild. This information is the stuff of dreams. Being able to hold a conversation with a 90 year old man at a car show and seeing him look at you in awe because you know about this process - it's priceless.

@frankbob4043 5 лет назад

Never thought I needed to see a Ford model A engine rebuild, glad I did.

@beboboymann3823 5 лет назад

I never will own a Model A nor have any association with an engine that is this old. But in watching this video you taught me a lot about the history and build of these engines that I did not know. My experience with engines dates back to the 60's and no earlier. So this is an eye opener for sure. I thank you for your teaching effort. That's what you do....you teach us fascinating things. Way to go.

@paulazemeckis7835 5 лет назад

Watched your vid with tears in my eyes...my dad's first car was a Ford Model A. I have 1 pic of it probably taken in the 1940's. He passed in 2008 at age 81.

@eimantas28 5 лет назад

Lietuva?

@Wooley689 10 месяцев назад

I am thoroughly enjoying this. So much great information for my hopefully Modal A purchase.

@williampankratz600 2 года назад

Never heard of the Time Saver method of babbit bearing clearance ? It really is a more gentle way to start a new engine . And I thought that Hagerty knew everything

@asarand 5 лет назад

I never knew the old 4-cylinders were so different. Watching this with a fresh perspective now.

@Shane-Singleton 5 лет назад

Oh yes. And every manufacturer had its own little quirks. the valve in head engines are much easier to work on than the old flatheads. .

@asarand 5 лет назад

@@burn1962ride or, they just never had an opportunity to be around those older cars to learn how they were different. The oldest car I have ever worked on is a 1964 Ford.

@fixedguitar47 5 лет назад

I work at the Ford Chicago Assembly Plant. On the motor line! It’s crazy cause you see stuff written on stuff... Like “Earl was here 9/16/31” Those engines were assembles FAST! Real fast! 24 hours a day 6 days a week for the Model A.

@asarand 5 лет назад

@@fixedguitar47 I have read stories in the past about the "signatures" left behind at the Ford assembly plant. Lots of history there.

@fixedguitar47 5 лет назад

Wayne Campbell - It’s the oldest continually operating Ford plant. I know because there’s a HUGE sign that reads “Welcome to Fords oldest continually operates assembly plant” It’s crazy cause you look up vintage pictures of guys standing next to the old cars that were built there, and you can find where it was taken and stand in the exact spot. It’s so cool getting to work in a piece of history. You can hear the echoes of the past

@markbrinton6790 5 лет назад

Man, this guy and his team are simply awesome.

@cwiggy34 5 лет назад

Its crazy awesome to see how far the auto industry has come...Keep up the good work. Looking forward to seeing this project being completed and seeing what's next.

@d13cab 4 года назад

I live in the UK and have to say these redline rebuild videos with Davin are by far the best videos on RU-vid, I like his explanation of each part and enjoy watching the strip down and rebuild. Fantastic keep it up 👍

@alex-vc8lq 3 года назад

good you keep old tresures like model a fords still alive they are just so beautifull cars 🚗 😀

@renatoigmed 5 лет назад

this workshop is cleaner than my kitchen after I prepared some snack xD

@jameswalton9062 4 года назад

Enjoy the videos I am 70 now mechanic and worked in many shops.

@ddcraun 5 лет назад

Just got the alert! Watching after a saturday bar shift with a cold beer. WIN!

@mynameis9057 5 лет назад

I just can't resist, if Abbott and Costello worked in a machine shop, you know every once in awhile you'd hear,heyyy Babbitttt!!!!! Lol! Oh yeeeaaah.▪☆☆☆▪

@beboboymann3823 5 лет назад

Fascinating.

@vincentheller2689 4 года назад

all videos are so good

@tylerhensley2312 5 лет назад

As your explaining the break in of the babbitt bearings it made me think of Ford's old model A plant video in black and white at the end where they run the car on what I thought was a Dyno just before they exited the building but I would venture to guess it was actually starting the engine against the babbitt if the starter can't start it.

@bhumiriady 5 лет назад

That looks so cool and awesome! I never knew 4 cylinder engines of the past are considerably different compared to modern 4 cylinders! Can't wait for the Redline Rebuild...

@keithwarkentin 4 года назад

Wow I will probably have forgot most of what I learned from your last two videos but for right now I learned so much I have always wanted to learn about the model A rods & main bearings thanks for making these videos and learning that only the middle main bearing is pressurized! We had a Model A growing up and I always wondered about the engine and you have given me some closure but don’t worry I will keep watching until you get the old girl running!

@SteveCole73 5 лет назад

That was a very well explained process. If I knew zero about engines, it would have been enjoyable to watch. People who are passionate about their craft are great to watch.

@ifeelfear 5 лет назад

Shame.every man should know how engine is working!

@davidson2004fatboy 5 лет назад

Davin !!! Is there ANYTHING YOU HAVEN'T DONE ??? FREAKING GENIUS

@SecondWindMechanical 5 лет назад

I think the engines were broke in on stands with electric motors at the FORD plant when they were new.

@pappabob29 5 лет назад

Sorry, just added that "reply" on a comment above. That's also what I read.

@ronalddaub7965 4 года назад

And it was called burnishing

@Francis_Castiglione 5 лет назад

Ford really built these things to last. Murica!!!

@funkyzero 5 лет назад

That's pretty cool. I remember grandpa telling me when they overhauled an engine, they had to "build them so tight, you had to drag it down the road to get it started", I thought maybe he was yanking my chain. Now I know why. Pretty cool stuff

@garywinters2282 4 года назад

Am really enjoying watching this build!

@jamessmith7691 5 лет назад

Good show.

@daveness8236 4 года назад

This guy is a damn genius. Damon love.

@mikecorleone6797 3 года назад

I was always taught to put the bushing end of the rods in warm oil mixed with zinc and let them sit for about an hour before installing the pin. Not sure if it makes a difference but I’ve been doing it for years and never had an issue

@deeremeyer1749 2 года назад

Yep. Shim beaing clearance to "spec" during a rebuild/overhaul - especially using plastigage - and it's going to knock when you start it.

@ftby59mikeD 5 лет назад

"...and Davin's heart grew 10 times". ..how else would he have gotten that Model A to turn over! Thx Hagerty & Redline.

@SteveP-vm1uc 5 лет назад

Doesn't anyone make a crank that is drilled for pressurized bearings? I know NOTHING about these, but with all of the aftermarket everything today, I am shocked they haven't come up with drop in bearings and pressurized oiling of everything! Glad you are doing this build and talking us through it. This is the first time I have ever seen the guts of one of these engines. My grandfather use to tell me about having to rebuild those engines in no time at all and how they use to drain the water out of them for the winter. Back in the early 70's he was telling me how easy we have it... Hahahahahahaha... If he were just alive today to see gas engines turning 400 thousand miles.....

@ericjohnson8482 5 лет назад

Engines back then went that far too sometimes, just not Ford engines. Packard had one with half a million on it in the 30's. Notice the 5/16's rings, and cast to boot, you won't see that today because cast rings suck for mileage and that thick isn't needed anymore with the tolerances of todays stuff.

@kennethbrown5784 4 года назад

Awesome job guys keep saving that vintage iron

@9traktor 3 года назад

What a fine engine! It was godparent to the rare "Skymotor 70 A" made in Milwaukee in the thirties but couldn`t prevail...

@paladin0654 4 года назад

This has been an interesting series; unlike the normal, vanilla build.

@ethics3 4 года назад

I much prefer the calm sounding music on this video over the hard rock attitude noise on some of his other videos

@ronalddaub7965 4 года назад

It's called burnishing the model T engine was said to put on the burnishing machine which is turned by an electric motor oil the bearings freely and let them smoke freely. The model A is the same way

@MotoEsh 4 года назад

So much fun to watch!

@TedSchoenling 3 года назад

you can say that new fangled 1950s tech is backwards!

@fatbackfitz Год назад

It’s a fluid film bearing. When running the shaft is suspended on a pressurized layer of oil. All wear happens as the shaft is spinning up and pressurizing the oil. If you had a servo motor to turn on before starting the shaft then turn off when up to speed, you’d have a minimum of wear. I’d love a wood lathe built on that principle!!

@joeysandoval3260 4 года назад

Man brother I AM so proud of you if I was a machinist I'd be just like you your cool

@quinnlesley10 5 лет назад

I love it I love it so cool watching this old old engine be made new I have learned a lot love to videos keep up the good work

@mrbarr1961 4 года назад

you do wonderful work on them engines you do.

@ahmadkoleilat8341 5 лет назад

Very nice

@randomfaz3867 5 лет назад

Wow I'm 4 mins in and I feel thoroughly educate... top vid

@joeschlotthauer840 5 лет назад

Hey, do my Buick straight eight next, will ya...

@hugh-johnfleming289 5 лет назад

I'd like to see that.

@zuestoots5176 5 лет назад

Nearly forgot the I-8s existed.

@skylinefever 5 лет назад

It will be especially exciting if the crank bearings need to be align honed. Very few shops could do that job, I think they might have to source that out to a heavy diesel specialist.

@joeschlotthauer840 5 лет назад

@@skylinefever Agreed, then the straight eight project rebuild is a go....

@gtr161 5 лет назад

14.08 And as I rotate it I can feel it freeing up already (grabs shoulder in pain)... hahhaa..

@whatchacookin1096 5 лет назад

I enjoy this series.

@RobertNES816 5 лет назад

It's like a big Briggs and Stratton engine except it's built much better!

@shartne 5 лет назад

Very interesting have never seen this type rebuild before.

@rustybritches6747 Год назад

Unreal! I would have thought these engines would be even more simple than a small block ford when it comes to assembly which I guess it is but the initial machine work and everything that went into these things back in the day is crazy!

@ALBA-yt1jp 5 лет назад

Mecânica clássica...é show!!🇧🇷

@Move-Monrovia 5 лет назад

Interesting choice of music.

@heathwoodlee520 5 лет назад

Awesome build, definitely a different era of motor building! Loving this series!

@SpiralDiving Год назад

I would worry that the Babbit bearing are just too tight. In the original Ford factory the engines did not have to be spun to free them up I think. The danger is that the Babbit bearings will overheat and melt before proper clearances have been established -recalling that the oil has to have a clearance to work.

@Bbbuddy 2 года назад

I think the factory had fixtures to “break in” the bearings by turning the engines for a certain length of time.

@gregory891 4 года назад

Very interesting. You could simply modify your Model T rotating flange / tool but machining it short (as mentioned) and then machine a hex (3/4") on the shaft end. No welding needed.

@car-man 5 лет назад

I run the car maintenance RU-vid channel in Korea. I'm always learning such a great ideas on your channel. I hope we have a chance to be together. Thank you.

@hillbillyscholar8126 5 лет назад

Always waiting for the updates with anticipation!

@robertfeller1672 5 лет назад

I watch with fascination and awe as the rebuild continues as well as the learning; where does the knowledge base come from since this is not your everyday rebuild?

@andrewjohnston8043 3 года назад

My dad was a Machinist back in the day we had to clean all the parts the way we did babbit bearing to fit right we put the fly wheel on with bearings in place sung them up some about 10 lb turn the flywheel if it was easy to turn we would tighten it up say 20 lb if that was still and had legs as you turned it you took the bearing caps off look for the shiny spots that would break out his pocket knife grape the shiny spots smooth put it back together do it until there was no more shiny spots turn the flywheel if there is light resistance you would torque that down do it again until there was a light drag on the flywheel and if it was good the engine was good we had no torque wrenches at that time I'm 75 now my dad would if he lives he would be 106 have a good day

@AshishKumar-om2fv 5 лет назад

Woooooow.... can't wait to see it roaring

@alternator7893 5 лет назад

Nice

@ronwade5433 5 лет назад

I really enjoyed this!

@tedhewitt4299 5 лет назад

Looking good.

@adrianvasile8711 4 года назад

You never put the gap of a piston ring, actually any ring, in the plane of the pin. Otherwise the engine will/may consume oil. Also if you have the engine "so tight" you have a good chance of seizing it and start all over again. The Babbitt has a low melting point and a bad thermal conductivity.

@donellmuniz590 4 года назад

It would be cool if H&H or someone developed insert bearings and a pressurized oil system for this engine. Then bring back the HAL or Cragar head, a stronger crank and rods....and on and on.

@blackhat2385 4 года назад

Love your work. Engine brake in period would have been quite noticeable back then, unlike finely machined components of today.

@michaelnelson9140 Год назад

Learned about Babbitt in tech school. I was wondering if actual bearing inserts, or shells are available for this engine? Would make life much easier!

@paulkolazinski2109 5 лет назад

I never heard of babbitt bearings before. after breaking them in, does babbitt material float around in the engine oil?

@paulzumpf3612 4 года назад

No. It is just like soft metal bearings used in cars until recently when they went to aluminum bearings.

@ronalddaub7965 4 года назад

the power plant i work at still uses Babbitt bearings on their fan motors and other things it's called a pour and bore, and you need to have a lot of borax to make the Babbitt stick To the rod and block ,Used as a flux

@austinaufdenkamp4374 5 лет назад

Cool build

@90lxfox3 4 года назад

These old flat head engines literally are big Briggs and Strattons

@BWGPEI 5 лет назад

Oh, so glad I subscribed!

@joeschlotthauer840 5 лет назад

Cool tool at 4:28...

@juanfgonzalez2039 5 лет назад

Beautiful

@rodmorris9690 5 лет назад

If you torque one side of those rod bearing castle nuts tighter.. Always do the other side the very same as well....

@cootersgarage4408 5 лет назад

With all the technical advances today, is anyone making upgraded rods, cranks, and modern rod and main bearings to rebuild a model A engine? If so, could that be discussed on the next episode? 73s from Hillsboro Texas!

@pappabob29 5 лет назад

I know one guy (with a machine shop) for sure makes cams and other Model A parts far superior to the originals. Most shops doing the Model A engine rebuilds will ask if you want to stay with the babbitt type bearings or "update" to the modern (insert) style that also requires modifying the oiling system to positive pressure. Still lots and lots of "hop-up" parts available for the Model A motor. Including "overhead valve" conversions. I believe those, however, are all "vintage" systems.

@79tazman 5 лет назад

I tore down and assembled many engines but a flathead engine is not one of them very interesting

@rockcrawler3119 5 лет назад

Ever seen the video of how Henry burned in the bearings at the factory? The new engines were hooked to a huge electric motor and ran a bit. I recall seeing smoke just pour out of them during that process. If I ca find the video again I share the link...great video though sir!

@pappabob29 2 года назад

I'm going to be assembling one of these soon. You told us all about the babbitt shims but didn't show us setting any of them. Did your machinist set/machine all of your "initial" clearances in the babbitts?? As I understand, "adjusting" your clearances as the engine/babbitt wears, you remove a shim from one side of one bearing at a time. Try to turn the crank. When you remove one shim and it locks up the crank, you re-install that last shim and you're set on that bearing. So, from the "second" time on, your engine will have "oil clearance" at the bearings. ;o)

@wazza33racer 5 лет назад

is there a part where something is held together with baling twine? Starter wont rotate the motor? Thats what the hand crank start is for...........you gotta remember people were actually fit,healthy and strong way back then.

@djambrosia 5 лет назад

Cooking up an engine, nice :)

@robbiefrentz9427 4 года назад

I remember my grandfather telling me they would put straps of leather in them also

@ianwilliams487 5 лет назад

G'Day,,,,Have seen similar fitting in heavy industry,,But if me would have scraped the bearing in, that would depend on Babbitt mix,,more white metal,, It is amazing what weight a Babbitt will hold,These huge gearbox's built before my time and many others,still going strong today with fresh scrapping every now and then,,they are soft and do distort,,but for the work they have done and will do, I noticed an oil groove,,have you included wedges as well,???? thats the secret to getting it to last the oil wedge,and of course the oil,

@ex-soldier4341 5 лет назад

7:25 is the best part😂

@moyadapne968 5 лет назад

I used to warm the c/i rings in my palm before installation. But I live in a cooler clime.

@JetSkiBuyFixPlaySellChannel 5 лет назад

I was thinking if you put the piston in the freezer and warmed the rings up slightly it might go on easier and less fear of breaking a ring.

@scottsosss 5 лет назад

Nice shop but the last place I would place a glass bead cabinet is next to where I assemble an engine. Anything that grinds, cuts or has the potential to contaminate an engine build should be placed at the opposite end of the shop. Just my 2 cents. Great video on the assembly.

@dgiorgi1725 Год назад

Great job on this Ol Gal. How do you know when to remove some of the shims?

@Pags222 5 лет назад

So when do we install the Holley EFI?

@sk22ng 2 года назад

With the crank & inside of the block painted are there any worries about the paint eventually coming loose and interfering with the lubrication?

@agungnurullah5263 5 лет назад

I like your video 😍

@cwanyoperator9647 Год назад

Would not it be better to pressurize to aft bearing?. That bearing transfer more force and holds whole flywheel mass in place.

@eimantas28 5 лет назад

This old school engine has the same oil rings as BMW M57TU2 Diesel engine ;)

@skylinefever 5 лет назад

The oil rings may look the same, but I am certain that the dimensions are different. That 2 piece oil ring is found in a variety of diesels from all over the world. Also, some gasoline engines made in Germany and Russia use a 2 piece oil ring.