I really appreciate the accessability of having the chime when the motion sickness warning is over! Even though I don't have to worry about it, that is an amazing way to handle it and I hope to continue seeing that from you and elsewhere!
Ignorant comment here but do you just get nauseous with motion sickness or is there a chance to get a seizure? I get the flashing lights warning that might trigger a seizure but I'm not familiar with the motion sickness side effects. Do you end up running to the bathroom and puke or is it more ominous?
I was going to go and comment on this actually, I get motion sickness quite easily from high speed constant motion (that covers too much of my field of view) and I was soooo glad when they showed that, I used my peripheral vision to see what they meant and yeah, I probably would have had to look away anyways. so yeah thank you for that, also in my case the only thing would be I would get really dizzy and have to go lie down for a bit, or it might even trigger my positional vertigo. So nothing life threatening like a seizure warning, but also not something I'd like to experience.
@@Shorty15c4007 For me personally if it builds up too much it's a long-lasting nausea and overall just disoriented feeling, body temp feels off like I have a fever, and sometimes a bad headache. I guess body just overall goes into "I'm sick" mode for a while.
The auto input switching being off by default makes sense as there was a huge outcry when their smart TVs came out with it. PlayStation/Switch would "wake" for updates and switch to their respective input in the middle of watching TV/a movie OR turn the TV on.
Yeah, but thats a dumb explanation from Sammy why it Autoswitching is off standard. Because the Auto input switch should ONLY work if NO Picture is shown at the moment, so there would be no problem. But thats to heavy vor Sammy ^^
127 fps out of 240 with the best GPU bench you had on hand. Count yourself lucky if the 4090 does 170 fps in SOTTR (4k ultra) when it drops. It will take two generations to catch up with this monitor.
ever heard of people that like to play singeplayer games on ultra and multiplayer fps games on low anyway ? 240 fps is possible in 4k in a lot of games already, and with the rumored next gen performance its definitly not going to be a problem anymore 😁
240 you won't notice difference anyway,Just placebo...An 120 hz OLED is better than 240 Hz VA cause the response time should be 1ms...Check level1 tech reviews
@@teskript4605 yes - most people comment as if all games are like older consoles with no ability to change graphical settings. No one with any sense is expecting max frame rate at 4K ultra settings.
@@MitchellTheMitch Also depends on the game. A 20 year old game could probably run at 8K 120hz no problem on current mid-range hardware, and Doom Eternal for example may be possible at 8K60, if not now then with next gen GPUs. But a game that is not well optimised will not even run at 4K60 on an RTX 3090.
Nowadays there are pretty cheap and decent 4k monitors compared to when it launched, once 8k hit mainstream next year or so i believe we will be able to afford 4k 60+
What issues does DSC introduce? I thought it didn’t introduce any artifacts, though not lossless? Regardless 4k@240 doesn’t seem possible with 10 bit color or 4:4:4 (or both). Maybe I’m wrong, but I’d care much more about those. DSC is a good feature IMO.
Still really worried about scan lines that a large amount of Samsung Odyssey monitors have had, including mine. Hope they can get their QA better, main problem for me right now.
I was able to snag this g8 at my local microcenter ready to return it in case of scanlines/dead pixels but I’m pleasantly surprised that I seem to have gotten a good unit. If you can find it locally and price is no object, I say try it because it is Hands down the best monitor I have ever used compared to 1080p 360hz, 390hz and 1440p 270hz. Obviously price and the pc you’re running and the games you play will decide whether or not you should pull the trigger.
Man, I paid 2.5K for the PG27UQ back when it launched. 1.5K for THIS is like a frigging dream. Love how technology evolves and things become more affordable over time. I guess the QD-OLED panels appearing with such prices also helped with pricing. I'll seriously consider this one if mine ever dies!
@@TorrellesEdit I got my x27 on eBay very gently used for $800 about two year ago I couldn’t believe it. I love when people are like “pfft 4K hdr isn’t even worth it” like bud try seeing CP2077 on ultra ray tracing at 4K 98hz😂
@@Absolutjeff Damn, that's a great bargain! I bet most people who say this haven't paired such monitors with a capable GPU to really take proper advantage of them hehe
@@TorrellesEdit So I’ve been looking everywhere, I found a site that said the neo g8 supports g-sync but Samsungs official page only says Freesync premium pro. From my fifteen minutes of research it seems like I want to stick with g sync, is any of what I just said true or did I misread?
then you buy that monitor and notice firmaware of the monitor in right light then you say to your self that you will never buy samsung monitor ever again :) (like me)
I got a first gen QLED curved monitor with terrible backlight leaks, and I'm not interested in this, 'cause I can't pay for it. With that in mind I think the reason you're interested might have nothing to do with Samsung's "range of monitors", but with your width of pocket.
At this point I already have a "good enough for me" VA-panel ultrawide monitor. My threshold for an upgrade is going to be a more attainable QD-OLED 1440p ultrawide.
Specs? They look great. The reality? This monitor only hits 2000+ nits on test patterns. You won't see over 1200 or so in any real content. It will show scanlines at 240hz. You will have some level of flickering issues in some situations. You will see overdrive artifacts, at least when using VRR. Sometimes quite extreme ones. The HDR EOTF tracking is utterly fudged as well, as is typical with Samsung, so it is not tracking as it should, and you will not see HDR content anywhere near how it was meant to be displayed. This is just the issues that are known of as well. These monitors, as with the rest of the Odyssey series, are a mess. Avoid them.
Hey Linus, in case you were curious Samsung has been putting "Color Display Unit" on their monitors for decades. I have a 21 year old Samsung LCD that says just that on the label.
OLED better blacks. G8 better brightness. Burn-in. Size. Curve. Done. Edit: I take it back. I tried the Neo G7 and it's not much brighter than my CX if at all. Returned it and went with a 38GN950. Worse blacks/contrast but everything else is better imo
QD-OLED & the OLED are better visually but most gamers are obsessed about peak brightness & max fps. This screen is great for ... Counter Strike. Ok bye bye
@@cody8860 QD OLED is subpar for non-gaming usage because the text looks really bad. Like on a 720p screen. If I had to pick one screen for both work and play I would prefer that over the qd oled alienware. More ppi, 16:9, brighter.
OLED is literally the worst display technology for gaming. You want low latecny pixel response with very low pixel persistence. OLED is the worst display in those categories. OLED is best for movies and TV, while modern LED is best for gaming.
I got the Alienware QD OLED early on before it became unavailable everywhere. I was considering waiting for this, but I don't regret my purchase, I am extremely happy with it.
@@nathanbraun2067 Samsung Electronics and Samsung display aren't the same company. Also there is no 32" QD Oled panel. They make them in 35" 21:9, 55" 16:9 and 65" 16:9, that's it.
@@nathanbraun2067 Samsung group is made up of many different companies. The company that makes the panels is not the same company that makes the consumer displays.
Easily EASILY the worst monitor purchase ive ever made, scanlines are TERRIBLE and the anti glare coating makes it so it might as well be a 720p screen practically like someone rubbed Vaseline all over it, default color setting are so terrible it takes forever to tweak them to be passable
I agree with you. I got lucky and didn't receive one with dead pixels or anything but it would just turn black as if it was trying to find a source to connect to. Would start off at HDR then go back to HDMI and then HDR again randomly when I am in a middle of playing a game. I returned it.
This monitor is trash just look at the HU test, Linus these days only shills stuff and goes by the manufacturers specs without doing any in depth analysis. Yes this is an unboxing/first impressions channel but then these type of stuff never gets a proper review in the main channel so it's effectively the same
I will never suggest a Samsung Odyssey monitor until they fix the firmware on all of the previous ones. Like it's been years and they still haven't fixed the scanlines on both G9 and G9 Neo.
I don't think it's possible to fix it via firmware. They're just driving the panels too hard in terms of refresh rate and response times. In general scanlines/pixel inversion gets worse with higher refresh and more aggressive overdrive
@@Lead_Foot Thats the weird part, there are no scanlines at custom resolution of 165Hz until you enable VRR, but at 240hz with it on or off there are scanlines. The best I can get it to look is set to 120hz in osd, custom resolution at 165hz, VRR disabled, adaptive sync on. In that config there are no scanlines at all. Set to 240hz mode you can't make custom resolutions so I can't test further.
Seems like yesterday Linus talked about wanting a 240 4k monitor. And now we're here and not some Chinese Kickstarter but a reputable brand. Can we just say that Samsung is really making some great products lately? Their SSD's are one of the best you can get for great prices also.
Part of the reason they can keep SSD prices super competitive is they're vertically integrated. The major components on their SSD (NAND, DRAM, Controller) are made by them. It's less expensive when you don't have to source your components from another vendor that also needs to make their profit. That and Samsung makes some high quality flash and controllers that it's quite common to see Samsung DRAM, NAND, and controllers in a bunch of other SSDs and DRAM modules. Similarly, this is also why Crucial (Micron) is able to have great value SSDs.
Considering that it costs 1500 euros in Germany it’s actually cheap, others displays with 4K micro led cost double without beeing curved or having 240 hz
Being curved shouldn’t be a feature that costs more anyway. It’s just personal preference, I would rather have a flat panel but would be pissed to pay more for either one style of display. But damn those 240Hz Grüße auch aus Deutschland ✌🏻
@@Draenal Majority of VA panels are curved because they're easier to produce and are cheaper than their flat VA counterpart Edit: the main reason is VA has inferior viewing angles compared to IPS
@@RSUnicorn I personally can't stand the poor viewing angles of VA. Move your head a bit too much and that superior contrast goes out the window along with any color saturation. QD-OLED on the other hand was an eye opener. Looks exactly the same from even the most extreme angles. For LCD my preference is always IPS.
To me it seems like the selling point for this monitor is the 240hz. I'm a console gamer and I purchased the lg 42 c2 and I'm completely blown away by how the games look and play coming from a 32 curved benq monitor.
Got two of these units. First one had a black line/blemish in the matte finish. Looked like a scratch but wasn't. Distracting. The second one has a dead pixel right in the middle of the panel. The QC at the plant manufacturing these units is awful. I don't mind spending $1K on a nice piece of kit IF it's actually NICE. Get it together SAMSUNG!
@@prashantmishra9985 Thats a shame. I really hate that with my TV that I've been using as a monitor. I'm looking for a 32 inch 4k 120+hz monitor with G-sync that will be decent for PC and console gaming.
@@BionicSammich Plenty of 144 Hz 4k monitor variants including panel with IPS tech are available. Things only get crazy when you demand 4k 240 Hz. Give it some time to mature, 2-3 years should do it.
@@drunkhusband6257 21:9 is kinda the sweetspot for most things imo. But one day I'll have a stacked monitor setup with a 32:9 on the bottom and 21:9 on top.
@@GroteGlon I just couldn't go back to 21:9 it feels like you are missing so much space in games. Really the only problem with it is that the very edges of the screen slightly stretch the image.
@@Raivo_K Pretty sure the 2k nits is in a smaller portion of the screen, and probably for a limited amount of time. Fullscreen 1200 nits is already insane tho
Agreed, my Oddysey G7 is ghosting, unless you turn on dynamic dimming, but then the whole screens dims, when white object, like subtitles, appear. Also G7 sometimes restarts itself, very annoying. And no, firmware upgrades did not help, yet...
I just don’t get it why don’t samsung make a productivity monitor with a mini led and high refresh rate , color accurate with minimal design with type C that competes with pro display xdr and studio display?
@@CodeVenomSnakes Spoken like someone who has never gamed in a 21:9 screen. 16:9 vs 21:9 is like 4:3 vs 16:9. Wider FOV is just way better for gaming no matter what.
@@CodeVenomSnakes QD-OLED is superior to VA + Mini-LED because OLED is able to turn off individual pixels while Mini-LED has to turn off zones to mimic only a fraction of OLEDs power. I've used 21:9 monitors since 2017. Unsupported games are EXTREMELY rare, & able to be counted with a single hand. 21:9 actually gives an advantage as more information is displayed on-screen allowing for faster target acquisition compared to 16:9 monitors.
I instantly lose trust in a review that has been sponsored. Not only the video is sponsored but he needs to carefully choose his words in order to avoid deteriorating his relationship with Samsung for future reviews. VOIDED.
When next gen Nvidia gpus come out, I think they should do a video to see if they can make a workstation with enough power that would trip a standard NA circuit breaker.
I'm glad Linus had the same issue trying to get the display running at max refresh rate. I just bought a G7 and it took me about 10 minutes to figure out how to get it to appear as 240hz capable on windows.
PLEASE, for the love of all that is holy. Spend more time on the Coresync (Ambient Light) feature on any and all future videos! Did a bit of digging and found that it only works over an HDMI connection on this monitor. This is far and away the only reason RGB is worth having, and needs to become a standard feature on ALL displays. Max brightness of the Backlight, polling rate, and average response time would all be useful metrics. For example in a scene with color changing strobing having the backlight match what's on the display is critical to not be detracting.
The 1440p 240Hz G7 is the best monitor I've ever used in nearly any context. This looks like a worthy upgrade but I still don't see any reason to move to 4k over 1440p yet.
As a current owner of a 32" G7, I can say that the 1000R is definitely fine in person but I would much rather have a curve that's less dramatic. That being said, because the 34" Alienware dropped at $1,300...this price isn't very attractive.
I agree, but if you want 4k240hz and a bright asf monitor, this is the better buy. I prefer inky blacks and great color accuracy to peak brightness and resolution tho. Especially if you have a lower end gpu.
@@huttonberries768 resolution & brightness vs contrast as well as response time vs refresh rate is not an objective discussion tbh.. The alienware has a terrible panel coating that makes the blacks look grey in anything other than a pitch black room as well.
@@jeremyg9305 yeah idk why tf they would try a more matte coating versus just full gloss. Oled needs gloss to look its best. Really hope Samsung and MSI’s monitors use a different coating. Don’t want them all to be copy and paste, even if they do use the same base panel.
Bought an Odyssey g7 about a year ago. Sold it after a month of usage. Couldn't stand that over curvature especially in browsing. Dont buy these trash curved Samsung monitors if you browse a lot also ghosting is real when you scroll down a web page so keep that in mind cuz its a VA panel never had this issue with IPS panels.
I keep throwing my money at the screen but nothing happens.... Oh please Samsung gods, hear my words, bless this on to thee! Now shut up and take my money 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
Linus, you GOTTA call Samsung out on their bogus 2000 nit claims. In regards to the Neo G7, Neo G9, and likely even the Neo G8. Hardware Unboxed (the RTINGS of RU-vid monitor reviews) found the full screen sustained brightness to be a measly 345 nits, barely a THIRD of the average 1000 nit PG32UQX full screen sustained, and a little over a FOURTH of his review sample's 1235 nits. Despite claiming a peak of 2000 nits, his sample of the Neo G7 came in at 1230 nits peak, which is obviously LOWER than ALL of his PG32UQX numbers and over 500 nits lower than his sample's peak of 1742 nits. This is borderline false advertising and NEEDS to be talked about.
I hate the way linus has gone in the last few years. It's now more an entertaining show than a real review. As soon as I saw. This video is sponsored by samsung I knew all he was gonna say is good thing about this monitor. Please go watch a real honest review of that monitor from Tim at hardware unboxed to have the real story. And you guys will see that this monitor is not that great and have a lot of issues. Just like every f*cking samsung G series. The quality control at samsung is none existent. Hard pass of that monitor. I am happy to have bought the aw3423wd and not waited for this.
Linus' last comment on the gpu and monitor affordability did bring up one good point.. Most budget builds on RU-vid only bring up the pricing for the pc tower and take out the monitor or kb and mouse.. Even the latest LTT 1000usd build video is guilty of it.. And I know I know people will say we'll reuse the old monitor and other stuff... But that's not always the case... And also isn't it better to suggest an monitor that's perfect for the current config at least and mention how much it will cost us in addition to the pc budget?? For eg. this build will include a 3070 and an i5... Now your best bet is to go for a 1440p monitor/4k monitor at 144hz or plan a 360hz fhd one if you want fps advantage...
sounds good on paper but has a ton of cons in reality check out hardware unboxed video on its identical little brother Neo G7 and see just how many cons this thing packs for such a premium price anyone with $1500 is far better off getting the Alienware QD Oled
But 21:9 is a deal breaker for some if not most people as ultrawide compatibility with games is okay at best with a lot of games (especially esport ones) zooming the game and then cutting top and bottom bars. Sidenote is that ultrawide is great for productivity thou definitely beats 16:9 in most cases
The G7/G8 are literally unmatched in their category tho. Even with the issues HUB mentioned. I ain't getting an ultrawide, I don't have space for it anyway.
I watched the Hardware Unboxed video, and the inpression I got was that, despite some nitpicks here and there, its a great monitor. As for the Alienware monitor, it being an ultrawide is a deal breaker, as I tend to play retro and console games. And I don't want to deal with OLED burn fears. That said, I thing the neo g7 is a lot more interesting than this, as I see no benefit from 240 hz that could joustfy the difference on price.
You would only gain variable overdrive but lose HDMI 2.1 ports because of it. Oh and dont forget the fan cooling the gsync module that gets noisy after a year or so.
True story: I was intoxicated last night and was trying to buy this, turns out I bought 3 and I’m trying to contact customer support to return 2 of them
To everyone who's considering buying this monitor: Sadly the Neo G8 has a very severe scanlines problem at 240Hz! I am a gamer at heart and for gaming this monitor really delivers, it's just amazing! But I'm also doing tons of image and video editing. So I was looking for a "jack of all traits" monitor and this video had me convinced the Neo G8 would be such a display. But the scanlines that are very visible, particularly in the blue tones, make it practically useless in Photoshop - at least at 240 Hz. When you disable adaptive sync and lower the refresh rate to 120 Hz, the problem *almost* goes away, but still it's not great. Also for most Adobe application, if you're running at 240Hz with adaptive sync on, you'll have to disable adaptive sync for the Adobe apps in your driver, or you'll get constant screen flashing. So unless you're okay with having to switch around a bunch of monitor settings between using this display for gaming or for creative work, this really isn't a jack of all traits monitor. But it's a damn fine gaming monitor! Hope this helps some of you. :)
I would really hope for DisplayPort 2.0 for the next gen graphics cards coming out. Since DP 1.4 only supports 4k 120hz I am assuming there is some fudging going on their. Would love some feedback.
correct, neither HDMI 2.1 or Displayport 1.4 can display 4k 120hz, they have stream compression to force going up to 240hz, so its not a genuine 4k 240hz experience. Might as well just run it at 4k 120hz. Also, it doesnt genuinely run at 4k 120hz as HDMI 2.1 but as glorified HDMI 2.0 currently (can change with a firmware update) but the PS5 and XBOX series X does not run 4k 120hz with this monitor currently. so yeah. I would just go with the LG C1 or C2 for the price. really cant beat an OLED
@@tymtrppr3 You said everything right, right up until you suggested a OLED LG c-series for gaming. OLED is inherently flawed for low-latecny activates. Huge pixel persistence and high pixel response times on OLED, even the most modern stuff, HDTVTest (who is also a big fan of the LG c-series) talks about this frequently. You want modern LED for gaming, and OLED for movies. I'd also argue against the c-series that is now getting a bit old when the Sony Bravia A95K exists and absolutely DUSTS anything LG has put out. Even Samsungs new S95B puts the C-series to shame now.
To me, the selling point of this monitor is the mini-led. The 240hz is a marketing gimmick, but I’ll just run it at 120hz and be happy. That’s still plenty smooth unless your a competitive gamer. Oled is good too, but 42 inches is just too large for a desktop environment, which is the smallest currently available.
@@TheRelen222 I do agree with you that above 120hz is probably wasted on me. I just like the idea of 4k, 120hz+, 10 bit color, 4:4:4 chroma sub sampling, with no Display Stream Compression, HDR 2000, HDR10+, Dolby Vision, HLG . It would check all the boxes until long into the future. I am still using a Dell U2410f, so I am looking for a new monitor. If I am spending $1500 to $2500, I want something that will last me into the future like my current setup has.
I have the 32' G7, and ho boy, been waiting for this. I have a 3090 system to run it so I do very often see 240fps in games at 1440p, but I know I can push 4k 240fps in lots of the shooters I play. I am 100% ordering this right now.
100%, most prob they did it to keep the price somewhat approachable for sure.. but 1.5k for VA ? nooope ;) on the other hand same monitor IPS we talking easy double the money and a bit more... nooope again ;) soo y we not there yet :P
@@CodeVenomSnakes Why get "the best of both worlds"? The best of all worlds is available and it's OLED. edit: also VA gamma shift is the most distracting problem I've ever experienced on a monitor.
Samsung monitors have certainly gone a long way. I've got a CFG70 from like 2017 (I think?) and it's a good monitor apart from the fact that I've had to send it in for repairs three times. Sucks they're so expensive, but even still I feel like the $300 I spent on my 1080p144 monitor was more than worthwhile to the point where I'll probably keep it for several years to come
It is a bit of a parabolic curve I suppose. Around a decade before that in 2007 or so Samsung was also on of the solid choices when choosing a monitor. In fact my first flat monitor (coming from CRT) was a Samsung Syncmaster 2253BW with a resolution of 1680x1050 which coming from a 4:3 CRT monitor was a huge upgrade.
I have a 2021 qn95a mini led tv and the brightness is unreal, sometimes when watching something dark and moody at night for an hour two going back to the satellite menu that’s all bright actually makes you wince it’s so bright.
OLED also still has burn-in risk, which is amplified on a PC monitor that likely will be displaying static objects (ie menu bars, browser search bars, etc.) for long periods of time. LED monitors don't have this risk, so the mini LED tech used here is a big deal.
@@b-lou296e was testing out the “switching” functionality of the monitor. PS5 is connected via HDMI 2.1 and then he connected the PC’s DisplayPort cable so the switching functionality would appear on the Monitor’s menu (OSD).
@@OmarDaily what I’m saying like he connected the DisplayPort into the pc you can see that which means how did he get the DisplayPort into the ps5 because I know they accept a DisplayPort am I wrong or what because at the end he literally connects the DisplayPort and says it and than the ps5 turns on lol😂 right ??
Hey Linus! Does your monitor have HDMI 2.1? Or still 2.0? Received my unit 10 days ago, and it shows HDMI 2.0. No firmware update available yet, so want to warn other guys who want to purchase this monitor, consider that fact, if they about to purchase Odyssey Neo G8 for competitive gaming on PS5
@@tazboy1934 not sure what you mean here. Hardware Unboxed and Rtings reviewed the G7 and G9 and they're both excellent despite being VAs. And there are flat VA panels, so this is a weird stance. Linus also said it was IPS in the video I think, but I'd have to confirm.
I just placed my order for a Alienware QD OLED today and it was suppose to arrive in a little over 2 months.. yeah, best buy can get the G8 to me in 4 days, I'll go with this instead. Btw, these monitors already have a 200 markdown in price, so they 1300 now.
Just excitedly googled this, it appears it's the Original G7 that's around that price, which is QHD not UHD (which is still nice). So going from 1440p to 4k with those refresh rates is making the price tag make more sense haha. The Neo G7 is still over 1k
Its really cool companies send you stuff. I'm broke as hell and nothing seems to be getting better here in Ontario. Miss my nerd days..investing in video cards and gaming monitors
QD-OLED is still far superior, but at least people have more options for their gaming needs if they really need 4K HDR @ 240Hz. And Linus, you didn't mention the high amount of halo effects in darker games. This will always be an issue with mini-LED FALD displays.
