Tiny $200 lav mic for ANY camera: Tascam DR-10L Review

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This is a review of the Tascam DR-10L Digital Audio Lav System. You can buy it at sdp.io/dr10L. I have a cold so my voice sounds a little weird. Don't blame the mic.
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@smithcon 6 лет назад

Recording two levels of audio is a brilliant idea. Can't tell you how many times I was dealing with limited audio dynamic range on my old mics. Nice!

@4xoverland 6 лет назад

The WAV and USB-2.0 are a bit of a deal killers for me. But the multi-level audio level recordings look like a life saver. Thanks for posting.

@clarkkegley 5 лет назад

To the point! Thanks, man. You made my decision easy.

@krillansavillan 4 года назад

For people who care, they have MP3 option now

@renambot 6 лет назад

Curtis Judd just released a review of the new Zoom F1, which seems pretty similar to the Tascam in features and price. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3H2aF24oxao.html

@TonyAndChelsea 6 лет назад

Thanks for sharing that. It's really WAY bigger! It's definitely more versatile if you need a single recorder to do everything, but we have other field recorders for different purposes, and really do wear these things 16 hours a day when we're vlogging.

@cienciabit Год назад

Pushed the like button at 3:26

@Creced 2 года назад

I suppose I'm a dummy, but see how it records to the micro SD card, but how do you use it with a camcorder? Don't find any information on that.

@HassanDibani 6 лет назад

Why not first convert wav files on your computer before sending them out via WiFi. You can even do that with just vlc.

@TonyAndChelsea 6 лет назад

Yeah I mean I know how to transcode stuff. I like fewer steps... and the particular example I was talking about I didn't have any time at all; I had to leave to go do something else while the transfer was still taking place. Plus you still have to wait for the WAV files to transfer over the slow USB 2.0.

@HassanDibani 6 лет назад

Tony & Chelsea Northrup understood. Thanks for taking the time to reply.

@i.e.sergio 6 лет назад

Tony is a big boy with big boy pockets, so he doesn't care about mic size, I respect that. But wav file size? Man, throw it into audacity and compress it down to whatever mp3 species you want -- takes minutes, can save hours of file transfer from hotel wi-fi. It's an extra step, but video editing is a lot of steps no matter what, and if it saves time that can make the addition of discrete components to your workflow worth it. Especially when it also lets you save money!

@TonyAndChelsea 6 лет назад

Yeah I know how to transcode stuff but I like fewer steps who doesn't

@aaronjonellhall1937 6 лет назад

You completely miss the point. I just want to record in MP3 so I don't have to worry about file size when recording to an SD Card. No reason that just a simple voice over has to be in .wav

@HassanDibani 6 лет назад

Hardened Studios it's in wav to save on processing power. That's how it gets away with a single AAA for a whole day of recording. Smaller battery, smaller size....

@aaronjonellhall1937 6 лет назад

Zoom F-1 markets 10-hours on mp3. This feature should be optional with a disclaimer of lowered battery performance

@augustofretes 6 лет назад

It's not just about battery life, if it needs to transcode WAV to MP3 efficiently it might need different internal hardware.

@chrisfeatherstone9691 6 лет назад

Nice! Sounds good. I noticed it records 24 bit audio. Have you considered recording at -20dB to avoid clipping and then bring up the volume in post? I do this a lot so I don’t have to worry about clipping. You figure with 24 bits with each bit representing roughly 6dB of dynamic range you would be at a total of 144dB of dynamic range. If you record at a much lower volume where your peaks are hitting -20dB you still have enough resolution to capture good audio and you would be far enough away from the noise floor of the recorder to have a strong signal to noise ratio. Just something you might try out and see if it works for you. I use Universal Audio plugins like the sonnox limiter in post to bring the volume back up. They also have some nice pre amp plugins you could use before the limiter plugin. I’m interested in a lav mic myself so I’ll consider this one. Thanks for the video!

@Hangs4Fun 6 лет назад

Been using Zoom H1 with Rode Smart Lav+ for 2 years, never had a problem with the mic popping out. Plus ive needed ambience and/or sound effects, and just unplgged the lav and used the x/y mic builtin on the zoom.

@fpdima 6 лет назад

Nice review Tony. The biggest drawback is obviously the fact that you can not monitor the sound. I’ve been using these units for about two years and shot hundreds of hours with them. In all that time I have not had one second of missed dialogue. They work great and are very flexible in how you can utilize them.

@zachherold8812 5 лет назад

Frank I just found out about these. In your opinion, if the camera is capable, is it better to have the wireless mic system go direct to the camera for easier editing? Or is it simple to overlay this audio onto the video track? I've only used lav mics that are recording directly into my video footage.

@DanceStarsNYC 6 лет назад

Good sound mixing! Can you do a tutorial of how you processed the mic audio? Also any reasonably priced mic suggestions to pair that with?

@BakeLikeAPro 6 лет назад

Hi Tony, would love to see you do this same thing with an iPhone and lav mic ( the Rode lav for iPhone ) I have often thought of purchasing that mic. How does it compare to this unit ? that much better ? etc .... Thanks for the review.

@TonyAndChelsea 6 лет назад

I keep one of those in my bag for emergencies but the mic doesn't screw in and I'm always using my phone so I couldn't just leave it connected all day.

@jonhermannsson9555 6 лет назад

so one needs to sync with video after

@Chystyle 5 лет назад

Question for you Tony, can the lav mic screw onto the Sony...? I have the Sony but i need a white lav mic for brides to wear.

@model3life 6 лет назад

Hey, this is great for young Kid’s producing videos! Small and light weight! I think we will get a couple. I noticed your audio (with the Tascam DR 10L) had better sound (clean & clear) than the Zoom F 1 that Curtis Judd reviewed. Curtis sounded like he was in a studio when he used the “lav” portion of the mic. However, it is all personal choice! Both mics will do a great job!

@KalynRobert 5 лет назад

That would be so nice to have someone edit all my videos. I would probably crank out tripple the amount of videos if I had a editor

@newyorknewyork1649 6 лет назад

What a great AD.....Tascam should definitely pay you for that ....just saying 😂

@TonyAndChelsea 6 лет назад

FWIW it's not sponsored. We have no relationship with Tascam. We bought the two mics ourselves from Amazon. #notanadijustlikeit

@Joe_VanCleave 6 лет назад

I like the Sony PCM-M10. It has great onboard mics, external mic jack, a wired remote and also records in a plethora of audio formats, including various MP3 formats. Yea, it's a bit bigger though.

@Kindersama 6 лет назад

And another problem is it's not sold anymore :)

@MichaelTapel 6 лет назад

I'm not sure what camera you were using to take the video with (perhaps the new a7III or A7R3) but it's funny how they can't handle the dynamic range in this video, still shows us our eyes are no match to any camera in the world.

@andrewberk4794 4 года назад

Can I record an aux line signal instead of using the mic?

@CraigRyan 6 лет назад

Thank you for the great commentary. All most folks would ever need for "on the go" vlogging is one of these and a Canon G7XII on a Monfrotto Pixie.

@michaelauknz 6 лет назад

Yes Yes - I am 100% frustrated and have one now on order --plus try using even the DJI OSMO m2 - it has no audio ability as it blocks the 3.5mm mic socket on most cell phone including the Samsung g8 and then try hooking up audio on the go pro black 6 plus ..nuts

@Keenonhang 5 лет назад

Bought one. I think it’s excellent. Sounds great. My only criticism is that the clip used for attaching it to a belt etc is very tight

@MichaelTapel 6 лет назад

I think it may be a useful tip: when you're using a lav mic it's better to face it down to avoid catching the air from our breath and the P's.

@Direct19681 6 лет назад

I’m new to the channel and I love your content! Keep up the good work!

@systemedmultimedia6526 6 лет назад

Looks nice. But if we can find something that is a discreet as the Rode combo (Smart Lav+Invisi lav) then we'll get a winner. Especially with something efficient like the invisilav.

@ConnorBrawley 6 лет назад

Hey Tony and Chelsea, What settings do you adjust? would you mind listing them?

@systemedmultimedia6526 6 лет назад

@Tony & Chelsea Northrup Do you know if the lav that comes with the Tascam DR-10L can be used with the Rode Invisilav ?

@Veptis 6 лет назад

I am looking at different audio solutions, but I want something simple and cheap that works for every situation and has acceptable quality. And that is impossible to built. I will find out what I want to record first.

@adsertheblade 4 года назад

Can this be used as an audio interface with the usb?

@123andjump 4 года назад

thank U. Very impressing audio and picks up sound from audience at lecture in a room

@photoman5943 6 лет назад

Hi Tony, what do you think about the zoom f1 field mic compared to the Tascam DR-10L

@SeattleRingHunter 5 лет назад

I can see this being a really good audio solution for moto vlogers! Put the camera anywhere on their helmet and or bike and always have a clean audio track tucked safe inside of their suit with the lav mic routed close to the mouth and shielded from the wind noice! Sweet!

@davidfrisken1617 6 лет назад

Why didn't you convert the wav to compressed before sending to Justin?

@sheiladowner3776 4 года назад

Is this a good option to record an audio book?

@OnlyNature 6 лет назад

Oh wow! I've been looking for something like this for ages. This would be fantastic for vlogging with, I've never fancied using a shotgun mic for blog style videos as I'd be too embarrassed doing it in public.

@TonyAndChelsea 6 лет назад

This is a really good point, a lav mic is way more discreet than a big shotgun mic on top of your camera. No better way to announce to the world that you're vlogging than to use a shotgun mic.

@marlousv 6 лет назад

@michaelscaplis 6 лет назад

How does the quality and flexibility compare to say using a rode smartlav+ combined with an iPhone (and Rode app)?

@AdamTVi 5 лет назад

exactly!

@djlworldwide2012 6 лет назад

Hey Tony, when you have to send audio files to the editor via the internet, you can use a file conversion program (on a Mac) like XLD to convert the large .wav files to smaller .mp3 or .m4a first...hope that helps. Best regards

@Zack_Darce 6 лет назад

i have that same recorder.. love it.. max sdcard size is 32gb.. anything larger and the unit freaks out.. also the first one i bought was defective.. the lav wouldnt screw into the body and it was shutting off randomly.. sent it back, tascam told me the motherboard was cooked.. sent a replacement.. havent experiened any issues with this one.. also, I use an external power bank when I originally testing it that may have been the cause of the motherboard crapping out.. either way.. its a great unit and ran for 3+hours straight on my last camping trip and the battery still had one bar.. it comes with a nice little carrying case that you can use to store extra batteries in. I'm still not entirely sure about the screw in connector so I took some gafe tape and made a stress relief.. being an audiophile, I only record in wav format. So this device is perfect for me. That in combination with my rode videomic Pro Plus I'm completely set

@theastuteangler 6 лет назад

Nice review, I've been looking at mics. Maybe you said so and I missed it, but how many minutes was the 9GB audio file?

@patrickgilmour1221 6 лет назад

This is a good product I use it all the time. I'm surprised you guys just started reviewing this. B and H has sales on them alot.

@aaronleungphotography3510 6 лет назад

I've found using a iPod touch with a rode lav mic works pretty well.

@rodrigodiniz13 6 лет назад

Why you dont convert the audio to MP3 before sent thru 9GB thru hotel wifi?

@JeremyDeighan 5 лет назад

Do you have a link to the episode of the podcast you recorded with it?

@aritenti3613 6 лет назад

Hi Tony, I wanted to know if it was possible for you to do the Lumix G9 tutorial. thank you Ariel

@80-80. 6 лет назад

Great idea if you don't editing your own films. I hate having to sync hundreds of files in post.

@gregv2821 5 лет назад

I laughed out loud when you said your only gripe was that it records uncompressed WAV.

@BB-pe7vy 6 лет назад

It seems like you guys have been sharing some 'behind the scenes' stuff recently. This can be extremely helpful. What about using software automation to ease the workload ?

@NaturalLovePhotography1 6 лет назад

Tony, If I wanted to record 2 people. Would you recommend 2 of these or a different setup?

@markonemusic 6 лет назад

You could always get MP3 by converting it on your computer before sending it over the interwebs. :) (If you REALLY, REALLY need to use MP3s)

@TonyAndChelsea 6 лет назад

Yeah, I know how to transcode stuff, but I'd prefer not to.

@martyhastings9347 6 лет назад

what you did not mention was, what you use to sync the voice with the video and do you ever find that at times the are out of sync. if you convert it to other formats will you ever be able to sync it to your videos??

@BruceRichardsonMusic 6 лет назад

Obviously I'm not Tony :) But, generally speaking, on a small production where you're running an on-cam shotgun, it's easy to line up the waveforms in post with no need to slate. At full zoom, you're at 1/48,000th of a second resolution, so any transient will suffice for perfect sync. The only thing you must check is clock drift (since the digital clocks are not sync'ed). This usually won't manifest to any significant degree in short takes. But, say you're doing a continuous hour-long interview, etc. When you conform the audio in the pre-editing stage, it's a good idea to sync-check visually (at full zoom) to determine the total drift. If it's within a handful of samples, chances are you won't notice it at all. If it's significant, you just make a few cuts in the wild track, and sync it up. Pretty trivial, once you've done it a few times. Now if you're doing an actual scripted narrative, you're shooting scenes anyway. Those, you'd slate and log like any production...and most of the time a take won't go on nearly long enough for clock drift to become an issue.

@chrisfeatherstone9691 6 лет назад

Bruce Richardson great explanation!

@TonyAndChelsea 6 лет назад

Most people just manually align it, but you can use PluralEyes.

@martyhastings9347 6 лет назад

Bruce Richardson thanks for responding to my questions. i have not tried this before so like you mentioned i might need to do it a bunch of times to get everything looking and sounding "smooth". as of this date, i do not own a lav type mic, but i do have some ideas where one would prove to be more than just useful. again thanks for your help.

@photoman5943 6 лет назад

Sorry, Just saw the same question asked by another curious person.

@satanstrilogy2288 3 года назад

W.O.W.

@EmoEmu 6 лет назад

I guess they have a few things to improve upon in a future edition. Nice product though.

@Holtenstein 6 лет назад

Yup. I own 2 of these and the XLR version. They're great. They also make a DR10CS a redundancy for the Sennheiser G3 mic. But, they don't sell it in the US!! Still a great option.

@Holtenstein 6 лет назад

Also works great when your subject is far from the camera or goes in and out of range of the RF signal.

@korgscrew2000 6 лет назад

Looks great Tony, but the fact I can't monitor the sound makes a nervous! I'd hate to be recording a client then find that the audio wasn't recording or had failed. I do however see the use for people who vlog etc. But, a rode smartlav into a phone will do the same thing. Thanks for the great content and info though, even though I'm not interested in a topic or the gear you talk about, I still find your videos engaging. Love your channel.

@Pikmeir 6 лет назад

You can monitor the sound while recording. They also updated the firmware that shows the volume while recording, and some other features (Mp3, adjusting the 2nd recording's gain amount manually).

@veemacks7255 6 лет назад

That looks like a pretty good lav[atory] mic. I can never get good sound recording audio in a toilet.

@syekbe 6 лет назад

I love it. I have a set of these as a back up to my regular wireless set up. Great sound quality.

@ronaldquint 6 лет назад

Anyone have any thoughts on using a phone with a wired mic and using a mp3 record app?

@TonyAndChelsea 6 лет назад

Yeah it can work. you can even just use the headphones that came with your smartphone and get decent sound. I don't like it, though, because I like to be able to just wear the lav all day (and still use my phone) and the headphone jack doesn't screw in, so it can come loose in your pocket and wreck your sound. But for casual, quick videos, one of those Rode smarthpone mics works fine.

@CodakChris 6 лет назад

theres a update it does mp3

@inthenameofjustice8811 6 лет назад

Sounds great. I agree that MP3 is needed.

@FloNoTrail 6 лет назад

I love my Rode lav mic. This looks good too.

@DavidOastler 6 лет назад

Can you also use the mic as a mic on wireless units as well?

@DavidOastler 6 лет назад

Mako Sports thanks

@georgyporgy 6 лет назад

Always good to have options...

@Jacob_Roberts 6 лет назад

Tony, you said that the battery lasts all day. Are you saying that if a creator hypothetically films for 8 hours straight (I know this *doesn't* happen in reality), the battery will last 8 hours without running out of power? Does this unit have a standby?

@TonyAndChelsea 6 лет назад

I dunno I definitely recorded for like 4 hours and it was fine.

@Jacob_Roberts 6 лет назад

Thank you, Tony.

@brianminkc 6 лет назад

does it give you two channels of sound or one? (stereo or mono)

@brianminkc 6 лет назад

there are online conversion sites that will let you convert from .wav to .mp3

@terranborn56 6 лет назад

WEVA folks should love this.

@MichaelTapel 6 лет назад

rated 4 stars, nope

@tvlover81 6 лет назад

Yep it's cool!

@CorbyQ 6 лет назад

Great video very intuitive

@Ndrums2 6 лет назад

So you record to the micro SD and then you have to sync the audio with the video? I assume that's how this would work... Please confirm.

@Jdikmen 6 лет назад

Also curious. I assume you made this video and synced the audio to it later (especially since you had the RODE mike example inserted)? If so, how is the best way to sync and does it never get out of sync over time with the video?

@chrisfeatherstone9691 6 лет назад

Yeah, you would record to the SD card in the Tascam recorder and then sync that audio to the audio recorded in camera in post. Once you align the waveforms you will turn the camera recorded audio all the way down and use the higher quality audio from the recorder. Just a quick tip. I recommend snapping your fingers or clapping at the beginning of recording so that you have transients that are sharp and fast. Align those peaks together and then you can cut that section of the video out after everything is aligned. Hope that helps!

@chrisfeatherstone9691 6 лет назад

John Dikmen be sure to zoom in on the audio waveforms to align peaks as close as possible. Also check the video not only at the beginning but also at the end once you think it’s aligned. Adjust as needed. Typically you will align the peaks in the audio so it helps if you snap your fingers several times or clap your hands at the beginning. The peaks created from this will be sharp transient waveforms and make aligning much easier.

@ted_nemeth 5 лет назад

THANK YOU!!!

@sean-victoria 6 лет назад

Why is this any better than a Rode SmartLav on your iPhone?

@TonyAndChelsea 6 лет назад

The mic screws in and you can just wear it all day (while still using your phone).

@Broadus45 6 лет назад

It would be nice to see how this compares to using the Zoom H1 audio recorder. I can see the issue using a simple socket input rather than a screw input. However, the Zoom H1 seems to have more uses such as being a stereo shotgun mic, USB, and a few other ways to be utilized.

@TonyAndChelsea 6 лет назад

I do mention that. It's WAY smaller and has a screw-on mic. But the H1 is more versatile. I still keep an H1 in my bag as an emergency mic or handheld.

@TonyAndChelsea 6 лет назад

I do mention that. It's WAY smaller and has a screw-on mic. But the H1 is more versatile. I still keep an H1 in my bag as an emergency mic or handheld.

@Broadus45 6 лет назад

Tony & Chelsea Northrup Definitely! Although this is pretty awesome. I would probably stick with the H1 at first then get that if I did more talking. However, I don't make videos so I don't even have either.

@town3 6 лет назад

Zoom just came out with their new version of this Zoom F1-LP field recorder

@TonyAndChelsea 6 лет назад

Yeah I'd like to see a comparison. The F1 wasn't shipping when I bought mine. It looks bigger, but I'm not sure.

@jeffrey3205 6 лет назад

Tony & Chelsea Northrup i think the problem with the F1 is the rails makes it bulky. When you do the comparison as I know you will, try taking off the rails. From the pictures I've seen it looks like just 4 screws that needs to removed.

@town3 6 лет назад

Yes it is a little bigger, I have a few of the DR-10L and if you do weddings they come in White as well for Brides :) I also have the Zoom H6 & F8 so the F1 works with the different mics and accessories for the zoom systems. The F1 is a little bigger but it's also seems more durable. Keep up the great work Tony have a great one.

@montanasojourn 6 лет назад

Good review.

@curt248 6 лет назад

Is this the least expensive way to get professional quality sound?

@rythie 6 лет назад

Probably, if you need the talent needs to move around and further from the camera. Otherwise a lav mic connected to the camera or a on camera mic like the Rode VideoMicro would be cheaper.

@TonyAndChelsea 6 лет назад

It's the cheapest I've found that I'd recommend. Wired lavs SUCK. At some point someone is going to trip or drag down the entire rig when they walk away. They make mics for your smartphone but they don't screw it so the mic can unplug and you don't notice.

@legendp2011 6 лет назад

wonder how does it compare to the new zoom f1

@TonyAndChelsea 6 лет назад

Yeah I'd also like to see a comparison. The F1 wasn't shipping when I bought mine. It looks bigger, but I'm not sure.

@MichaelScrip 6 лет назад

Yes Tony... the F1 is bigger. But it also has benefits like a better screen, more recording options, and the ability to add accessory shotgun or X/Y mics. The F1 can basically be a mini handheld recorder like the H4n... while also being a small lavalier recorder. Will you be reviewing it? It seems like a one-of-a-kind jack-of-all-trades device! I need one for a shoot in mid-April... but no one has the F1 in stock.

@TonyAndChelsea 6 лет назад

We probably won't review the F1 just for the sake of reviewing it... We have a couple of different field recorders for different situations, and even a shotgun mic that records to flash. So I don't really need the extra versatility but the smaller size really does make it easier for us to just wear them all day so we're ready to record.

@TriCountySunTimes 6 лет назад

The one downside of the F1 is it has no safety track.

@thatsaloadofcrap 6 лет назад

Shots From The Bench... and the tascam does?

@MrtinVarela 6 лет назад

MP3 has the job done but it has poor compression efficiency compared to ogg/vorbis or acc/m4a, and I think those should be prioritized instead. MP3 just wouldn't cut it for me in a professional video production workflow.

@jamesnajimy7067 6 лет назад

You're not very bright. Why in the world would you be using a shotgun mic from 20 feet away in the most echoing room you could possibly find?

@TonyAndChelsea 6 лет назад

"Your" not very nice. I'm demonstrating to the large portion of my audience who doesn't understand scenarios where a lav mic is beneficial. Everyone's in a different stage of learning, James.

@jagerardi 6 лет назад

Look at Goldwave. Shareware Audio editor, analyzer, and converter that you can open the file and then just save it as an MP3. Been using it as a professional musician for well over a decade. Has tons of other features for final mixdown capability, but it will take your files and make them MUCH smaller. Goldwave.com. ..Joe

@spakeschannel 6 лет назад

Or Audacuty. Because Open Source.

@jagerardi 6 лет назад

Yeah, but Audacity's primary purpose is as a recorder. Goldwave is a final mixdown product, so conversion is as easy as loading the file, then Save As, making it an MP3. ..Joe

@cyrille8693 6 лет назад

lol, obv, you don't seem bother to don't be able to check the balance of your sound to be sure if your voice is saturated or not, lol .... hmmmmkkk #sponsopizedvideo

@TonyAndChelsea 6 лет назад

This isn't sponsored. We bought both mics and we clearly disclose all sponsorships. Please be more polite in the future; accusing us of fraud is rude.

@cyrille8693 6 лет назад

I'm sorry if my comment sounded to be rude to you, it was really not my intend. Really, I like your videos and the energy you put on it, so please allow me to re-start this conversation : what this product offers more than just a good lav mic plugged to a smartphone ? Is the fact that you can't monitor the balance your sound isn't a really big issue ? If it's not, why ?