I had the same problem at first when I put new tyres on my motorcycle. The combustion was great, but the effect was nought. I finally figured you have to aim the spray through the gap between the rim and the tyre. The spray has to be inside the tyre not on its outside flanks. It worked a treat after that. Hint: if you take the valve out beforehand you don't need to attach the tyre to a compressor. You can actually hear the air being sucked in after a successful combustion.
I had some bad experiences with this method so I finally bit the bullet and bought a 5-gallon bead seater blaster, that thing seats a bead like nobody's business.
Honestly. That’s all we got and we set any bead we need to do in our shop from semi to even lawnmowers that won’t seat with a quick blast of air from the tire machine.
I have been putting tires on rims for 50 years by hand and only tried this once, and then I couldn't get it to work. Majority of the time I use a hand tire pump to get them seated and inflated. In my book this is the ' wuss ' way.
Tractor tires, especially lawn tractors, tires are delivered deformed and often require a tube even though they are designed to be tubeless. This is a great way to get them done vs paying $20-30 tire at a shop. Which is almost the cost of a tire. Not to mention anyone who's tried to replace a tire in the winter knows its neigh on impossible if the tire isn't in perfect round. When you need a tire on NOW, and not a day or two later, this is worth considering as long as you're not the average dummy.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAS BEEN MENTION'D ANYWHERE IN THESE COMMENT ON THIS VIDEO BUT I WILL SAY IT . WHAT HE IS DOING CAN BE VERYYY DANGEROUS IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING DONT DO IT ..... AND SHOULD NOT BE DONE THE WAY YOU SEE HERE... . BUT IF YOU INSIST ON DOING IT MAKE SURE YOU USE A BUCKET ON THE UNDERSIDE OF THE RIM..... NEVERRR PUT THE WHEEL ON A FLAT SUFFACE..... IT CAN OR WILL POP UP AND HIT YOU IN THE FACE OR HEAD RESULTING IN MAJOR INJURY OR EVEN DEATH . ALWAYS MAKE SURE AND USE A BUCKET UNDERNEATH . SET THE WHEEL'S RIM ON TOP OF THE BUCKET SO THE WHEEL IS NOT TOUCHING THE GROUND . ALSO MAKE SURE SOMEONE IS THERE WITH YOU . MY ADVICE WITHOUT A PROPER... SAFETY CAGE AND TIRE CHAIN REISTRAINT I WOULD NOT DO IT . I JUST WANT TO KEEP YOU ALL SAFE . I DID THIS TYPE OF WORK ON BIG TRUCK TIRES FOR YEARS AND SEEN SOME THINGS YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE BE CAREFUL .
Very well spoken. Tires can.....take your head clean off. I've done tractor trailer tires for years,split rim(windo maker) ain't no joke to play around with death
Appreciate your insight, gonna replace my tire stem with a buddy and we’ve both done much harder tasks however I’d say this might be worth bringing into discount tire really quick if you don’t wanna risk it
@@thomasconway499 Yup, we have those split rims on certain models of aircraft some with tubes and some tubeless. I always kept the stories I heard about split rims in my mind when I would have to take them apart, that said I never had a issue. I really wonder how dangerous could it really be, let’s say someone f**ked up and started to take apart one fully pressurized, wouldn’t the rim pop the seal before all the bolts were all the way out? It would certainly make you deaf and need clean underwear but I don’t imagine someone would get all the hardware out before the air/nitrogen escaped, no? If they did somehow some way.... ouch! Lots of red paste to clean!
I did a set of tires over the weekend. This is how I always seat the beads. I had a partial can of Pyroil starting fluid. I used it on the first 3 tires and it worked 1st time on each. The can was empty for the 4th tire so I used Supertech starting fluid. A can and a half later and many attempts I finally got it. It seemed like it didn't have the super fast flash burn of the pyroil.
Once you failed the first attempt with the second tire, you needed to flush the smoke out of it with a blow gun since the air from the valve stem wasn't even getting into the tire. You have to have some fresh air inside with the ether for it to burn. Smoke won't work.
@@jeremybreeden4228 I certainly hope they do. They fill tires with nitrogen these days to cut back on oxidization but the fumes from the explosion would probably ADD to it.
If you put a ratchet strap around the tire and tighten it, the bead will come close to the rim. Always remove the valve core and do not hook up a hose to the rim. Sometimes you can use an air nozzle to force the tire onto the bead if it has contact with the rim. You were spraying way too much ether in the tire. A one second burst is enough, any more than that an the results might not be what you expected.
Yeah I had a spare tire do this to me. I ended up having to spray starter fluid in it and light it on fire with a cigarette lighter. Jesus did I spray too much. It exploded and my ears were ringing. But at least I was able to get back home safely in the morning.
You can still do them without explosives. You might need air compressor for those but you get one side pushed on as good as you can with your foot stepping on it then stand it up carefully , apply air and gently push the rim to get other side of tire to contact rim without it coming off the side you got bead stuck on. It may take a few tries. Helps if you have another person to apply air.
you have to get the Starter Fluid inside the tire and set tire so gap is smaller.... And make sure the fire is out before respraying starter fluid... burnt my eyebrows off a few times as a kid doing Dads big truck tires ;)
@@compa_choo Right On :) welcome to the club..... next step is Losing your eye brows to gas on a camp fire... Lighting Propane or natural gas burners... Playing with Black Powder.... All's fun just Drop N Roll
You can get them screwed, glued or tatooed back on. You could also pencil them back in. Do it right though, otherwise people will comment on your demeanor.
Thanks for sharing this video. It works great without the air and I removed valve and sprayed inside tire and put torch tip inside tire to ignite it. Kaboom !
You should have left the valve core out, and the air hose off. The 2nd tire needed to have both beads close to the rim edge to seat with the fire. After bead pops on, and fumes are out of tire, install valve core and inflate.
Support the wheel with a block so the tire drops down on the inner bead. That will direct the explosion upward. Until the o2 is depleted. Lying a wheel on a flat surface is unsafe.
I have done probably well over 1000. When the tire is so far away from that outer bead it cannot contain the fire. Set some blocks underneath to split the difference in gap. Then anytime it does not go you must air out inside of the tire of all the burnt gasses. Watch your video you spray way too much onto the sidewall of the tire also. I only spray about halfway around completely within the rim . I like your way of lighting.
Deja lo divertido es peligroso no sabes como explotara yo me dedico a reparar llantas y e visto muchas veces a colegas fallar y tener accidentes solo tener precaución saludos
Not really! It took him 4 tries to figure that he needs to spray inside(!) the tire. ...tbh, I don't think he figured it out, he just got lucky without understandingthe concept. Or why would he try it so many times the exact same way but expecting a different result.
Use to do that all the time. Be ready and if it just burns kick the tire the surge of air will make it explode. The tire bead is below the stem not circulating the air to combust. Worked for me, we cannot do that anymore against company policy!
ive been having trouble with almost seated tires. ive lost two can straws in the tire. i think i spray too much and there’s not enough air to let it explode. i push on the tire to get my straw in and do a few sprays around it. it ignites, but won’t explode. works like a charm when it does though. maybe ill stand on it or something. i was using mass air flow sensor spray and brake cleaner.
I wouldn’t stand on it, if it’s exploded while u r on top of it it will have enough force to hurt u and lift I off the ground, people have been killed when the whole wheel pops off the ground and hit them in the face and nose. Iv never tried this method but Iv seen people say when they have trouble like u do kick the side wall I slightly or hit it with a small hammer to force into it through the gaps to feed it the air I talking about. But if u do use the hammer watch out it will smack it back at u if the bead sets fast sending it to u
Many times you can just put a heavy duty car ratchet strap around the tire and after a couple of clicks it will bow the bead out to make enough contact with the rim that you can just use air (no starting fluid) to initially get it to take. Just make sure that as soon as the air stops leaking between the rim and tire that you stop and then loosen the strap. This way it doesn't break and get ya. Then you can continue to fill and if you wd-40 the bead on the tire and rim then usually by the time you hit 40 psi or so it will pop on in my experience. I have used the starter fluid trick before but its definitely a bit dangerous. Especially if you have to hit it with a sledge to pop and the explosion transfers some energy back into the sledge.
Second tire burned up oxygen is why wouldn't seat after first try. If first try unsuccessful, press tire with your foot all the way around and release, then try again.
Eeeh... wrong!! The guy is obviously sharper than you are lol. Did you not see him hook up the compressor hose? Are you deaf and missed the compressor running too? He was pumping air straight into the tire without the valve core at least half the video lol. You thought you were clever and figured out the issue only to find out you're really the school dunce 😂😂 I bet you feel real clever now huh lol? Dont get butthurt though k. It was just a rush to judgement on your part... happens to the best of us.
De haber levantado un poco el hombro del neumático desde el suelo , hubieso ayudado a acercar más la pestaña del neumático a la llanta!!..y así se evitaría recalentar innecesariamente 4 veces el caucho....mi opinión desde la ventana de la humildad y el respeto! Saludos desde Lican Ray novena región de Chile
hola tenes idea que es el aerosol con el que rocea el interior de la llanta? hoy quisieron en la gomeria poner unas 205 65 15 dentro de una llanta 15x10 y no pudieron...tenes idea si se puede?
Put the air on first before igniting it. Then after the tire has sufficient air in it let some back out then fill to appropriate level. I've had truck tires explode and do some serious damage by not doing that procedure.
Yeah I been doing that trick for years on my endump trailer only when it’s emergency and it blew up in my face because I usually light it with a lighter kind of being in a hurry and careless you can say and lost 50% of my facial hair. It can be dangerous..!
When your on the job site you don’t have time to call someone to do it for you..! You have to do what you have to do to keep that money rolling in biatch..!
Can of starting fluid and a BBQ Grill lighter... Do not ever ever do this on a truck tire with a snap ring the snap ring will leave that dump truck rim at about 100 miles per hour... My friend died that way, the snap ring hit him in the head and lodged itself into the 14ft ceiling
look at the gap from tire to rim... if you can close that gap somehow then using air is no problem.. this method using combustion to seat the bead is way more common than you would think..
Instead of this extremely dangerous method.....and you are using about 10 times the amount of starting fluid at that, try putting a ratchet strap around the diameter of the tire and crank it down. That will bring the bead right up to the rim, so you need no explosion at all, just air pressure. If you can't get the bead close enough and need the explosion, use a tiny bit of starter fluid, in the gap.
If you’ll kick it or hit the tread with a hammer if it don’t blow on the bead with the light the extra force while it’s burning will usually be enough to pop it up in bead
A safer solution (because I just did it) is put on the new tire. Get a bicycle tube that will fit inside the rim. Fill bike tube with air. It seals the space. Slowly add air to vehicle tire, and remove air from bike tire Worked flawlessly on all four for me
Correct, sir. The ' fuel ' must of necessity, be INSIDE the tire - and rim for this method to ' werk '...er work. Good, job. i know a mechanic, uses propane.....i don't .......yet. What're you using ? WD 40 or something else ?....
here I am using "starer fluid of your choice" however, last time I had trouble setting a tire on a wide rim I put that mega unused "MAP sensor cleaner" to use. it worked good an I don't think it is as harsh to the rubber. WD may be even better. thanks n safety first LOL
I use 1/4 cup gasoline on my hd fatboy tires its enough to seat the bead doesn't cause a vacuume because not enough fuel to keep burning the oxygen in the tire This is the easiest way without buying equipment I first seen it done on a monster truck tire they had to use a lot of fuel
Yeah, uh, don't spray the ether ON the tire bead, especially several times. You burn a puddle of ether on a bead several times like this and - bead failure and boom.
I tried this and my tire completely exploded. It was an explosion. I'm pretty sure it's possible for the fire to get sucked back into the air compressor...
@@PCFLQTLF - Yeah. What he's doing seems dangerous. I just ordered a tire bead sealer product called "Xtra Seal", to try on difficult tires, like my lawnmowers. www.walmart.com/ip/31-Incorporated-14-101-32-oz-Flammable-Bead-Sealer/34042389?comm-msg-vehicle=EMAIL&comm-msg-id=0980b570-955f-40a9-b4cf-344a78e00a5a
This was OK when tires had 3-4 sidewall plies now it's 2 in most. Too much ether can damage them and cause failure. I've used ether in the past but not on today's rubber bands they call tires.
