TNVC SuperGain Unfilmed White Phosphor Night Vision Comparison 

I appreciate the video and highlighting the differences. Noticeable, but I think I will keep my existing TNVC order of un-filmed WP tubes as is, and put that 3k towards an eventual thermal setup. Thanks again!

bothers me that TNVC doesn't list the specs or pics of any of their tubes, just minimums. prices are kind of high aswell

Just the video i was looking for, Thankyou. Ordered a supergain 14 day after they dropped. Going from an Elbit green phos thin filmed to this. Cant wait!!

Fantastic presentation as always. This is exactly what is needed to assess this offering. My conclusion for my needs is that I am staying with my high spec UFWP standard gain tubes, but will definitely purchase the super gain tubes for all new applications or upgrades. There is a definite performance advantage that I can see from your video in lower light settings with diminishing returns in more “normal” usages. Thanks again Will for everything you do.

I just received mine yesterday, truly outstanding. I’m not sure where the people saying it’s not worth it are using their nods, but in the dark woods of Appalachia they 100% are worth it. They’re slightly brighter to the eye than standard unfilmed tubes, but noticeably brighter in the sense of light amplification. Better contrast, better detail, look deeper into shadows. Just outstanding. Last night was no moon starlight only, and the image quality in low light is chefs kiss.

Good to see your comparisons again. :)

Thanks for putting out this information. I’d been on the fence about upgrading to binos for a few years. Then the SG’s dropped and I Pulled the trigger the day they were announced. Looking forward to March!

Ordered a PVS-14 the day this dropped. It should get here in 1 to 3 weeks now. Looking forward to it!

Appreciate the content, very good representation!

I'd like to see a low light comparison with elbit and photonis tubes also just to fully appreciate the difference

Awesome video as always Will!

RU-vid has been systematically unsubscribing me from channels like yours that I have already subscribed to. Thought you content creators should know if you didn’t already. Thank you for the video!

Definitely going to be looking into super gain in the future.

I don't think the performance increase was enough to justify the PVS-14 going from $4K to $5.2K. Really what I'd like to see (Fat chance, I know) is the price on standard gain unfilmed white tubes become closer to the inline price of standard thin filmed greens.

Thank you for the video!

Do SuperGain tubes in housings with manual gain control like PVS-14s and PVS-31s have the same minimum gain as their standard gain counterparts? I'm just wondering about their versatility and usability in urban environments.

I guess this means if one is using Tarsier Eclipses, then in any and every environment one could run the iris a lot tighter and enjoy better focus.

Hey NITEWALKER, quick question. Possible to order SuperGain tubes only? Also, possible to buy a PVS-14 without a battery unit so I can retrofit a NL914C? Or purchase one with it? Thanks!

Shooting star at the 2:00 to 2:01 mark

Do you know if the "supergain" tubes are just the newer requirements that the US Military will require for Omni IX i.e. require higher gain sensitivity and other various specs improvement over VIII?

Thank you for the video Will, is it possible to have a Supergain tube in a PVS14?

seems like you get a lot more noise with the super gain image, so much that in the video it almost negates the benefit of the higher gain. Is this something you noticed IRL or is it an artifact of filming/ youtube compression? It does seem like the supergain has less "vignette" around the edge of the image though so i would imagine it feels more open/less claustrophobic when wearing?

I just got a 3x magnifier from ATM or AGM whoever company that makes that Rattler scope ? For $250.00 it just made my PVS 14 thin filmed white phosphorus a super gain lol for $250.00 . Three day shipping from Amazon . I like the unfilmed and super gain and the nice new coatings TNVC is putting on these monoculars but I hate that 4 month wait period . I can get another PVS 14 or a AGM Rattler from Amazon in three days. But thanks for doing all these videos it does help me decide what to buy . I got the FLIR BREACH PTQ136 because of your videos and tacticle rifilman . With the Wilcox bridge . I modified a MOD ARMORY FLIR BREACH swing arm and made my own sort of K Clip M clip and it lines up the square screen from the Breach dead center in the middle of PVS screen. Maybe I should make a video on how to modify one of those MOD ARMORY swing arms since who knows when these K clips will become available? On five waiting list right now .

Holy scintillation!

So in your opinion it’s worth the extra $2500?

What is the relationship between "Gain" and "PS" when generating image in extreme dark conditions, assuming equal EBI? Previously I thought "gain" was of minimal value within a range?

Trying to make the final decision on which. For my clarification, was the "standard" tube used in this video comparison the 2376+ min FOM tubes? Thanks.

Excellent video, although I would like to see more footage of nights or environments that are on the very threshold of no-light. It would be interesting to get a better idea of if, and how the Supergain tube performance works at the lowest possible light conditions. The indoor shots in this video were OK but it's like they were both "past" threshold where the light levels were too low for both tubes, and when the small indicator light was turned on, then it was more than bright enough. Still this is a good comparison, thanks for the video and information.

I think ill stick with my "standard" tube, from the video shown it looks like you loose some detail and contrast. Seems like were hitting the point of demising returns for the tech like semiconductor chips.

For astronomy usage I’m not sure it would add much benefit unless you have a tube with very low EBI and very high SNR in a low light setting where the higher gain is more beneficial. Seems like the higher gain is going to be capped mostly by SNR depending on how noise/scintillation free the view is.

If super gaun is the new standard for milspec tubes wouldn't that mean that pvs31a's will come with them?

You should see what the dual MCP Photonis tubes do 100,000 to 200,000 :) Nice comparo BTW.

Unfortunately video encoders don't handle dark video as well as brighter video. So no matter what the one on the left will look worse unless it got to a certain brightness.

How is this achieved in the intensifier? Are there any downsides? I.e. less service life?

New to night vision, will a thermal clip-on work just as well on the SG units? Specifically the JerryCE5 :)

It should be noted, that Carson can use Fujinon or Qiopitq glass. Objective with single knurling is Fujinon.

does this burn the tube out faster?

Having gotten lasik, i need manual gain on my tubes… the super gain seems to increase contrast which will likely not boast well with my eyes. I keep my computer monitor less than half way on brightness as it is. Great vid though

At 5:14 there is a noticeable difference how much one can see into the tree on the left.

For the price of Super Gain your money is better spent adding Thermal Imaging which is what l did and l can see in all the shadows😊

That’s freaking crazy

Will tnvc. Ever get access to or sell. Iray 1280 core thermal. What’s your thoughts on iray compared to trijicon/ nox. Late night night vision show. Says trijicon is falling behind

Got my TNVC DTNVS with 72 res/ 38snr/ 67,000 gain in the mail a week before these came out . Can't justify the extra 3k. If I was in the sandbox vs enemies with NV, definitely.

Only 11k subs on this channel is messed up.

Noticeable increase in brightness but also noticeable increase in scintillation. Worth the trade off though.

What’s the guaranteed run time till half life ? It’s slightly lower then unfilm white phosphor ?

I have a question: if you shone a pure UV torch at a 100 yard geared person, it's extremely likely that numerous plastic components will fluoresce, giving him away. Are IITs, of both gens, sensitive to say, 365 nm UV? If they aren't sensitive, a UV source could give away the target while concealing the observer!

Will these be available in clip on units?

Question is, is it worth the extra $1200? You can get an illuminator with that money. In no light conditions it does well outside. Inside looked the same.

Why are NVGs like the PVS-31a and GPNVG available for purchase but Harris gen 3 pinnacle only available to Mil/LE?

How is a tube made to super gain? Is there anyway to increase the top gain on a normal PVS14?

What’s the life span of the high gain tubes vs normal gain tubed?

wow, a new power supply!

I just got mine. They are nice and all I'm not sure its worth the extra $2000 from the little extra gain. I wish I had just bought a lower end set and picked up an extra set for a family member.

This reminds me of the difference between generation 3 vs generation 2.

I'm just sitting here with my poor elbit feeling like I need to eat more carrots

Shooting star just after 2 minutes!

The only thing I got from this video is go thermal. Edit: I'm looking at the new AGM StingIR 640.

What think of these specs PVS31A No Spots FOM L 2750 R 2988 Halo .73, .69 SNR 38.2, 41.5 EBI 0.7, 2.3

The best thing on this vid is that you can have a 3d-effect by crosseyeing the two tuberepresentations to an overlay of one. Will, try to produce such two-tube represenations more often and please place tube#1 and #2 in the correct eye- or pupillary-distance, because it helps judging a tube or the capabilities of a special tube-tech a lot when watching the videoresult with an additional real depth of field than in a standard way just as a flat-screen representation.

TNVC said no one needs manual gain, couldn't be further from the truth. There are a number of tactical reasons to have manual gain.

2:18 >as you can see, there's not excessive scintillation the excessive scintillation: 👁️👄👁️

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Well, guess I'll start looking for pop cans 😒 * got an ad for $200 night vision coming into this vid 🤣🖕

Hey, far be it from me to tell you in what way to flex on the poors.

Supergain is definitely worth it. I was torn between Supergain and standard gain but i am definitely happy i forked out the extra beans for a high spec Supergain. My neighbor has a high spec standard gain device (2700 ish FOM with a SNR of 38 and EBI of .3) and even though my has a FOM of only 2502 (39.1 SNR .3 EBI 64 RES) it preforms better in low light and looks extraordinarily sharp. I think his gain is like 66k and mine is like 108k. I dont really understand how a brighter output effects the light input but all i can think of is that they are both taking in the same amount of light but the higher gain just means you can see it better. 🫶