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Tobruk British Vs Italians starter set for Flames of War mid-war 1942 - unboxing and review 

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Kaiser & Jonny B unbox and review this fantastic value new starter set from Flames of War for those interested in recreating some iconic WW2 battles in the North African Desert. This box pitches a circa 1942 British Desert Rats 8th Army force of tanks against An Italian armoued formation of M14/41s and Semovente SPGs neatly backed up by some powerful 8.8cm German loaned guns.
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00:00 Intro
03:05 Crusader
11:25 Grant
18:33 Sherman
24:18 M14/41
31:31 Italian Sprue
32:00 Semovente
38:57 Flak 8.8cm
41:13 Crew
45:24 8 Million Bayonettes
49:36 Commentary & Review
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Комментарии : 48   
@head_rat
@head_rat 2 года назад
I made all my M14s and Semoventes interchangeable and it works really well
@ModellingforAdvantage
@ModellingforAdvantage 2 года назад
Nice one.
@thomaschase7097
@thomaschase7097 2 года назад
The riveting vs. rolled steel and cast steel was new info. for me. Thank you for sharing.
@ModellingforAdvantage
@ModellingforAdvantage 2 года назад
No problemo
@MikeLangan
@MikeLangan 2 года назад
How strange i've just seen this after seeing a documentary last night on Canadian TV about the war from 1940 to 1942 against the Britain and Italy
@ModellingforAdvantage
@ModellingforAdvantage 2 года назад
Nice, I do enjoy a documentary, even if I spend time screaming at the TV about what it gets wrong!
@ericcraig7800
@ericcraig7800 2 года назад
Awesome 👏 review gentleman… Ultra informative… I see 2 of these in my future
@ModellingforAdvantage
@ModellingforAdvantage 2 года назад
Why thank you
@mattcappelli5822
@mattcappelli5822 2 года назад
Always appreciate your reviews, even for games I don’t play. Especially like the history lessons. Thanks for that you guys do! Still wish you shipped to US so I can support you guys further. One day, perhaps
@ModellingforAdvantage
@ModellingforAdvantage 2 года назад
Thanks Matt - you are too kind. Sadly the shipping costs are prohibitive. You should be able to buy Merch in the US though. It is manufactured on demand via a 3rd party. I realise that is not miniatures. Maybe I should try and find larger 3rd party mini ditributors over there that have an affiliate programme.
@smoothbrush4722
@smoothbrush4722 2 года назад
Nice unboxing, i like the italians, and the crusaders, grants.
@ModellingforAdvantage
@ModellingforAdvantage 2 года назад
It is a belter of a set for what you get for your money.
@SaulKopfenjager
@SaulKopfenjager 2 года назад
Crusader Tanks were designated A15
@ModellingforAdvantage
@ModellingforAdvantage 2 года назад
Thanks for the tip.
@head_rat
@head_rat 2 года назад
The Tobruk link to your website is still showing the back of the Kasserine box instead of the Tobruk box. It also has the wrong tanks listed for the British. Thought I'd better mention it ;)
@ModellingforAdvantage
@ModellingforAdvantage 2 года назад
Thank you - we'll get that fixed!
@head_rat
@head_rat 2 года назад
Got my box today from you (Thanks Mrs K). I got 4 88s as well. I guess it's a misprint on the box or else they changed their mind after the boxes were printed. Looking forward to building all the models tomorrow.
@ModellingforAdvantage
@ModellingforAdvantage 2 года назад
Sweet!
@axanax2534
@axanax2534 2 года назад
Those Italian tanks might be outclassed and outnumbered, but my oh my they are sexy. I'm looking forward to getting my hands on this box.
@ModellingforAdvantage
@ModellingforAdvantage 2 года назад
Indeedy
@desertzombie
@desertzombie Год назад
These are great box sets.
@ModellingforAdvantage
@ModellingforAdvantage Год назад
They really are cracking sets.
@aledroberts6580
@aledroberts6580 2 года назад
Great video and some nice history :) There has been posts on the Flames of War FB page that some boxes have 4 88’s and others the 2 stated. Seems it has been a packing error so a bit of a lucky dip :)
@ModellingforAdvantage
@ModellingforAdvantage 2 года назад
Lucky for those of us that got the free ones then.
@michaelwain3198
@michaelwain3198 Год назад
The M14/41 makes a great allied formation for Afrika Korps. I did an Afrika Rifle formation, with 3 infantry platoons, a 5cm Anti Tank battery, with support from Marders, Dianas, 2 lots of Sdkfz 222 armoured cars. I had an Allied formation with 9 M14/41's. I got 2 wins and a draw at an event. The Italian tanks rip infantry apart, while the Marders and Diana's do the same to tanks
@ModellingforAdvantage
@ModellingforAdvantage Год назад
How did they come out in the new points balance for mid-war?
@michaelwain3198
@michaelwain3198 Год назад
@@ModellingforAdvantage I know Marders and Dianas have gone up a lot, which makes it difficult for the Germans to deal with things like Shermans and even more so, KV + Churchills. I've not looked at the Italian stuff in any detail. I have played using just Italians and did OK. having those 4 88's does help
@michaelwain3198
@michaelwain3198 Год назад
The Death or Glory formation for the Mid War British can have a HQ platoon of 3 Lee's so there is a use for the spare Lee turrets, although they were still in their US paint jobs. Not sure who would be bothered by that in game. If you bought 2 of these box sets, you could run a Sherman formation, with 2 Shermans as a HQ and 2 platoon's of 2 Shermans and 1 Grant, then another platoon using 3 Crusaders.
@ModellingforAdvantage
@ModellingforAdvantage Год назад
Yeah, there is flexibility in the set for sure, definitely expandability.
@militarywargaming7840
@militarywargaming7840 2 года назад
Gentlemen the dress code is slipping. A good review and I think quite cheap but as we all know it’s far too tank heavy and infantry should be included I think especially if you are advocating a critical siege . Personally the much older sets provided far more balanced starters for combined arms etc
@ModellingforAdvantage
@ModellingforAdvantage 2 года назад
As much as I agree infantry is critical in any WW2 game - for a starter set for rookies I think keeping it simple to learn the basics is a pretty good idea. Gives you a feel for a game without the complexity slower less powerful units bring. As a taster set I think it is pretty good.
@Kevin.Mitchell
@Kevin.Mitchell 2 года назад
Riveting! No really, very interesting stuff, I enjoyed that a lot. Nice wee models and a bunch of history thrown in - what's not to like?
@ModellingforAdvantage
@ModellingforAdvantage 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it - I worry sometimes I waffle too much about the history - then I remember - take that out and I am just doing the same crap as everyone else...
@Kevin.Mitchell
@Kevin.Mitchell 2 года назад
@@ModellingforAdvantage Oh no good sir, don't go changing!
@PincherPlaysPoorly
@PincherPlaysPoorly 2 года назад
Is it possible to magnetise the Crusaders, so their type can be swapped between battles?
@ModellingforAdvantage
@ModellingforAdvantage 2 года назад
You can magnetise the turrets - many people do that.
@t4nkys
@t4nkys Год назад
Just a quick question, whats the total point cost per army in the box
@Kingsland7
@Kingsland7 2 года назад
Which year of Tobruk is this based? Not sure those allied tanks were present.
@SaulKopfenjager
@SaulKopfenjager 2 года назад
Operation Crusader Nov-Dec 1941, so the 2pdr, Grant/Lee & CS Howitzer yes, the 6pdr I think not, as they only entered service & used on converted tanks from mid 1942
@ModellingforAdvantage
@ModellingforAdvantage 2 года назад
Yeah this is a 1942 army for sure. Tobruk falls in June 1942.
@SaulKopfenjager
@SaulKopfenjager 2 года назад
@@ModellingforAdvantage Teah, it's fall was the finale to the battle of Gazala, AIUI the 6pdr only started in production in May '42, not sure about any tank-gun conversions, but I'd seriously doubt much if any was done even by 1st El Alemaim. I had a game set at Stalingrad that had the German 6th Panzer Divion appear as reinforement with an organic Tiger Company - they had it on paper it spent months training in Germany! (BBCM)
@ModellingforAdvantage
@ModellingforAdvantage 2 года назад
@@SaulKopfenjager It is a tricky one - as gamers we are very much in the what if category so it is nice to have those options - sadly it is not often clear to the player that this is an a-hostorical option that they may not want to play knowing that...
@julianwarren7770
@julianwarren7770 Год назад
I’m frustrated. I want to play Flames if War… in the desert… but I want 8th Army vs Afrika Korps! Which would you get if you could get one… Tobruk or Kasserine?
@ModellingforAdvantage
@ModellingforAdvantage Год назад
Go for the Tobruk one first. Those Italian tanks you can use as allied units with your German force and they are really cheap in points.
@OneofInfinity.
@OneofInfinity. Год назад
British tanks attack.... 88's be having a field day.
@ModellingforAdvantage
@ModellingforAdvantage Год назад
No doubt...
@e-4airman124
@e-4airman124 Год назад
I bought his but too bad no italian infantry can be found anywhere I have been let down by flames of war
@ModellingforAdvantage
@ModellingforAdvantage Год назад
They are having real problems supplying infantry.
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