Great video, Ken. There are several aspects of your video that stand out and make it a great tutorial: 1. You explained and showed the symptom, the "before-state." This was very helpful for one of our back-up mechanics over a holiday weekened. It was the same symptom he is seeing. 2. You set up your camera in such a way that we could see what you were doing, and then used a flashlight when needed. 3. Your audio was clear and there was little background noise. 4. You explained details that may be taken for granted by someone experienced, but unknown to a novice. The explanation about the equalizer valve was good example of this. This is one of the primary reasons for leaving these comments. 5. You used the technical terms for the components on the valve system, instead of "thing-a-ma-bob", or some obtuse label. That is one of the things that set you apart as a professional in my mind. 5. You provided a close up of the replacement part. 6. You showed the repaired state, the "after-state." From your video, audio, and clear explanation of what you were doing, we were able to understand the symptom, cause, how to repair it, and how it should function properly. Good job on this, Ken. Thank you for taking the time to help the rest of us out! Peter T Manufacturing Engineering & Maintenance Manager Medallion Instrumentation Systems Spring Lake, MI
Very clear on how to do this repair. I’m a retired industrial tech with experience in high pressure systems and little to no knowledge of commercial plumbing. This video has been a great help. Thanks
Thanks for the video ken. I'm a custodian applying for a maintenance position within our school district. Looking forward to seeing your videos. I feel like a apprentice getting a lot of useful knowledge
Thanks. Like the fact that you had a real problem, isolated the cause and replaced the part with a quick test. Good ideas - grease and checking for leaks.
Have multiple buildings at work that are seasonal so they get disassembled every year for winterizing but never rebuilt unless they are broken. About half of them are running like this when I turned the water on. The building isn't open yet so I will be rebuilding valves this week. Thanks for the video!
This was extremely helpful. Plumbing is not a skill I possess and I was called at 9:00 at night that the mens urinal wouldn't stop flushing. I didn't even know how to shut the water off. But after watching this, I got the water turned off and I feel confident I will be able to go back out to the theatre and fix the urinal if I can find the correct part. Thank you!
Thanks for the video -- I have inherited responsibility for our church's building and grounds. This video helped me fix one of our misbehaving toilets.
Great post, just had a problem with a urinal where the same thing was happening but it was just running found your post and fixed the problem thank you very much it was a great help.
Thanks for the video comrade! I'm an Australian plumber, I've recently started work at a hospital, the place is ancient with concealed Sloan/Zurn brand flushometers throughout. We're forever having hassles with them either constantly running, or not flush. We changed each piece, bit by bit, flush them out, and they'll just keep playing up, seems to be no rhyme or reason to them! There are nowhere near enough videos on youtube, or detailed manuals online. This video is a major help!
We have a similar issue where I work. It is due to our water supply having sand/small gravel particles come through the system. The get under the diaphragm and cause it to stick.
you may have debris in the cavity around the diaphragm. use a flash light and do a close inspection. Flush out the valve really good without the diaphragm in place.
Great video. I like the tip about the equalizer tube going towards the shutoff. Also like the grease on the cap threads. That access panel on the left is funny! Impossible to open!
Cynthia I have had this before and it was rubber inside the valve just before the diaphragm. 1. remove the diaphragm and look down there with a flashlight and look for any debris. also make sure the seating surface is clean. if all that does not work you could replace the whole valve for about $150 or so. Ken
An exhaustive video on the finer points of Sloan automatic hand wash units like the EBF 650 and the like would be great. going beyond changing batteries and cleaning filters would be great. I have about 20 of them to take care of,Problems like consistant flow from one unit to the next, when do i really need to repair/replace solenoids, etc. I sometimes try to cannibalize old units rather than having to buy new ones, but this only goes so far.
One problem I have also had with a Sloan Flushometer that was causing a constant flushing toilet was due to the cracked plastic cap that covers the diaphragm. Sometimes the cracks can barley be seen which makes it tough to spot.
I did not think of that. Had one that I replace and it still runs about as long as it did before, can't dope it out, maybe cracked cap, but if not see crack, how know?
I would also suggest you replace the inner cover too. Just to make sure the inner cover seals with the diaphragm. I had one yesterday where the inner cover looked fine but it was allowing water to leak out of the chrome cover.
Thank you! My house has these kinds of toilets and they're all having this issue. It seems like having the water to the house turned off messed all of them up. Fingers crossed 🤞
Surprised you didn't run the diaphragm under water to see if there was dirt in there, not in the hole either. But also would tell if the rubber was in there a long time and chemicals wore don't the rubber. A black rubber would come off. if not it could have been rebuilt with a new disk and rubber diaphragm. cheaper then the kit. i like the grease on the cap but should never put a wrench on the cover it should be hand tight.
Thanks for telling us how to fix it. I'd sure like to know why it was running. You mentioned that the air hole was open, so that wasn't it. What's the failure mode? At one point you were looking down the tube for... for what?
Looking for debris that would keep the valve open. Usually the black item gets clogged and just needs replacement. You could take it and with a stiff brush, try and clean and install to see if that will fix it but I have no time for that. I just replace with new.
Very informative. During a time of economic crisis we dont need plumbers coming in our homes scamming us out of more money than necessary. The job looks so simple and doesn't take 2 or more hours to fix.
Hi Ken, I have a urinal flushometer on the building that even after I have replaced the diaphragm with three different ones brand new ( I ordered 6 from Grainger) still won't stop also the body is not corroded, it only works with a toilet flushometer 1.6 Gal. but I have to disarm it very often because after some time stop working, it doesn't flush no more, only after a disarm it and reinstall it again, that's why I started to wash videos to see if I can see somebody with something similar, I think I'm going to have to replace the whole Flushometer. I forgot to mention one thing, I have to reduce the pressure from the angle stop because the water doesn't go as fast as is coming from the flushometer and it over flows, but I increase the pressure for a little bit just to see if that was the problem but, not still it wont stop. :(
Great video. Thanks. I have a weird squeak sound from the valve after replacing the diaphragm. The squeak is right at the end of the flush cycle just at the diaphragm is equalizing. Any ideas? Also have another toilet that has water coming out of the vacuum break area. I removed the breaker and it was all swelled up and deformed. I replaced the breaker kit. It is still leaking? Any ideas? Thanks again for taking the time to make this video. BTW, what brand and type is the wrench you use on top. I use the sloan super wrench but it can mark the cap sometimes.
+Scott D 1. I have had a squeak on another sloan in the past and did not find the fix and I am just living with the squeak. 2. Same thing with vacuum breaker leaking. I have taken apart and cleaned the metal good where the vacuum break goes and try to reduce the angle stop valve pressure. 3. the red wrench is an Ridgid 31305 1-1/8-Inch-to-2-5/8-Inch Capacity Offset Hex Wrench Amazon $33 www.amazon.com/Ridgid-31305-8-Inch--8-Inch-Capacity/dp/B0009W9BT0/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1456162729&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=8+inch+off+set+smooth+jaw+pipe
Thanks Ken. I am a pastor of a Texas church. I installed a sloan valve on a urinal in the men's room. We have been remodeling ourselves and we had a major water leak that we fixed. The water has been off in that section for a long time. Now we have trouble with the urinal, the camodes are old style (like in your home) and they are fine. Now the urinal keeps flushing as well. Had some dirt looking styff come out first. Do you think the equalizing hole is clogged, and is there any way to clean it. Before we had to turn off the water that valve was only about two months old. Had lots of main breaks up the street so that we have had to flush our lines many times before we turned the water back on that section as well.
texican287 yes, you can clean it with a brush and soap and water. If the diaphragm is old, it will need to be replaced or if cleaning does not solve your problem, try replacing diaphragm.
wow! this looks and works much better than my previous attempts hitting it lengthwise with a shovel handle. i didn't know what was going on inside (or that i could even turn it off!) and thought maybe there was a trapped air bubble i could disrupt and magically make it work again
Hi I just change the flushometer in a commercial toilet but it still running water for about 30 seconds vs 7 seconds in the other toilets. Do I need to adjust someting? Thanks great video
I just had my bathroom remodeled and since I have 3 men in the house, I NEEDED to have a urinal installed. It has only been used for 2 weeks and the valve keeps getting clogged with some sort of debris, causing it to run constantly! The handyman that did the job came last week, took the whole thing apart, blew on a few parts, put it back together and it was okay (for a week) Should I ask for a new part to be installed or is this something I have to suffer through for the duration of time that we live here??? VERY FRUSTRATING!
Sounds like a single family home? If you have steel pipe in your water supply system, there's a good chance you're getting rust chunks in it. If you're on a well, it might be sand. Find out what the contaminant in your water is, first.
ken just so that you know a little about me and my relation to the trade,first I'm out of Miami close to homestead Fla......I recently graduated from F.C.C. H.V.A.C. trade school. I guess you can say that I had to reinvent my self and so I choose this trade.I have been in the field for about year and half. I'm not working for anyone company yet.I been doing side jobs and trying to establish a customer base....... and getting buy. eventually I will need to find me a sponsor to applied for my journeymen's......any way I've learned allot by watching the H.V.A.C. videos on you tube from people like you and others alike.......thanks once again......
