Yep Fiats used to rust badly, but they resolved the problem in the 90's. Completely different car today. They are currently building some really high quality cars.
I had a 2006 Mini Cooper. It was the biggest piece of crap I ever owned. Had trouble every month I had it. Got rid of it after 6 months of hell. I now have a 2013 Fiat Abarth. It is reliable and not one problem and fun to drive.
The scary thing about it, is that they're both related to Chrysler. I have a 2012 Fiat Pop. Bought it used, no problems so far, and it's a blast to drive!
I really like my 2013 Abarth. It's had a few issues here and there, but the dealership handled everything under warranty, without so much as a flinch. The car is a blast to drive, both on and off the track. Past Issues with the car: 1.) Needed a reflash of the PROM in the first 5000 mi. (Factory Advisory Bulletin). Took 30min in and out. Car ran even better afterwards. No charge.- Done. 2.) Window mechanism began clicking at the end of full open. That is warning that the cable pulley is going. If you hear it, get it fixed before the thing lets go and necessitates a whole new regulator. They know about the problem, and the dealership should take care of it. It's a quick fix if you catch it before it goes completely, it's fast and easy. 3.) Mine was one of very few that ate its turbo bearing within 5000mi. It was a defective batch of AR turbos. (That's not Fiat's fault.) Dealership handled whole thing- New turbo, intercoolers, and tubing. No charge. Three days, because one tube was back ordered from out of state. No problem since. 4.) Painted panel of sunroof assembly, above the windshield (you can see one being installed in the video above), chipped and peeled. Again, a known problem on the darker cars. Dealership repainted. No charge. Looks perfect. 5.) Chrome plating on some plastic emblems and one door handle bubbled and peeled. What can I say(?), Arizona sun is deadly. Dealership replaced. No charge. 6.) Rear windshield wiper refused to automatically "park" in the down position. Dealership fixed it. Worked for awhile, then resumed need to park it manually by timing the shut-off. I don't care. It almost never flippin' rains here anyway, and even when it does, I don't use the rear wiper. The car has no rattles. There is a small amount of torque steer only under hard acceleration, but it is very slight. As the cabin seals have dried slightly over time, there has been some mild increase in wind noise, but, as I said, AZ sun is deadly. Things that could be better(IMHO)- 1.) I wish that the car had a manual 6 speed option with a higher overdrive. AZ interstates are high-speed for loooong distances, and I hate doing 3500-3800 RPM continuously for hours on end when it's simply not necessary. 2.) The 10 gal gas tank is too small. The car should have a range of at least 350 miles. It gets ~28mpg at interstate speed. Would it have broken their hearts to have installed a 12.5 - 13 gal. tank, which would have provided that range? C'mon, Fiat! That little tank might work for the POP, but the Abarth is a bit hungrier. The package should've included a bigger plate for a larger meal. 3.) Yes. The Beats stereo kinda sucks. It's an overly bassy POS, with poor mid and high-range clarity and Dr. Dre should be ashamed of himself for putting his name on it. All of that said- It has always started and driven, even when the turbo went. Completely dependable and a really fun daily driver. Love the car.
Thanks for the run down, helps others a lot..besides the turbo and reflash looks like not much else could sit you on the side of the road yelling SHITBOX Lemon..so you have the Diesel model?
love my 500 turbo. fun car. destroyed the oil cooler somehow but it was -20 out lots of respect to the peeps making these along side the robots. much respect to the programmers of the robots.
An Italian car made in Mexico. The end of times is near. I like the car but it's not reliable. Not good to assemble there. I'm convinced that's part of the problem.
Nismo Kid ...and mine is the better version!!! My European Abarth Competizione 2017 Facelift ist the real deal, couse there are way more changes as by the US ( made in Mexico) version!!!
joe b ... Nonsense ! The Fiats was not reliable back in the 70_80_90s...but today they simple have no problems. I speak about the European version!!! Over here in Germany we have way more problems with the big names like Mercedes or Audi. Belive or not...but it's true. I experienced it!! So you are the topical person with stereotype ..who still believes that the Fiat is not realible. Come over her to Germany to collect some experience and knowledge about the cars who became,...and lost their reliability.
joe b ... Nonsense ! The Fiats was not reliable back in the 70_80_90s...but today they simple have no problems. I speak about the European version!!! Over here in Germany we have way more problems with the big names like Mercedes or Audi. Belive or not...but it's true. I experienced it!! So you are the topical person with stereotype ..who still believes that the Fiat is not realible. Come over her to Germany to collect some experience and knowledge about the cars who became,...and lost their reliability.
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Realmente es muy bello ver una linea de fabricación de autos. En particular, es imposible no admirar al chiquitin de FIAT. Es un muy lindo y buen modelo. Soy de Argentina, aqui no se fabrica lamentablemente, pero lo he probado y realmente me ha sorprendido. Es un auto compacto, fuerte pero comodo, se le nota robusto al andar, y al mismo tiempo muy confortable por el tamaño y peso que tiene. Felicitaciones a los amigos de Mejico. Tienen una muy buena planta allá. Saludos y muy buen material !
Notice, this is where they also make the Dodge Journey (also the Fiat Fremont). Can see them in many places in this film. They used to make the PT Cruiser here too.
Nací en Toluca, México, Estoy orgulloso de decir que la manufactura mexicana rebasa en calidad a muchas de europa y E.U. y México no esta en sudamerica, estamos en Norteamerica por aquellos que no han estudiado geografía. Soy orgullosamente Mexicano y Toluqueño, Saludos!
As Endi correctly said, Toluca produces also the Journey/Freemont. And yes, basically all the 500 versions with the American specs are made in Toluca, while for Europe they are made in Tychy, Poland.
09:27 - 09:47 PLANTA ENSAMBLE: Prueba de Carretera. Estas son las últimas pruebas que se realizan al vehículo, para revisar todo el funcionamiento y prestaciones del mismo; simulando las condiciones que se presentan en carretera. Si existe un demérito, se le crea un “HOLD“ al vehículo para su revisión total. Si el Vehículo, pasa todas las pruebas, se lleva a Patio de Ventas, y de ahí a su distribución Nacional e Internacional. Ing. Silverio Osorno
Late to the party but I've had my used 2013 500 turbo for only a few months now and loving it. One of the best cars I've ever bought. It is sooo fun to drive with it's turbo and 5-speed manual. A 6-speed would have been nice though. Too bad Fiat decided to stop making these fun little cars.
¡ Hooolaaa uriel morales !, - Es correcto -, a pesar que en este mismo video, no tuvieron acceso a Planta Pintura, - Quizá por las políticas de contaminación, ya que ahí si son muy estrictas - . Te comento: 1.- Después de haber salido al unidad VIN ( por su siglas en Inglés : Vehicle Identification Number ), del área de carrocerias, pasa por las tinas de tratamiento de metal ( no recuerdo el nombre la sustancia química ). 2.- De ahí se hace un proceso de Electro-Pintura o bien por electrólisis, aun la unidad sumergida, para que ésta, adquiera los iones negativos, para cuando pase por las campanas ( robots de pintura ), se adhieran de negativos a positivos los iones , - de esta manera esta garantizada la pintura de los 7 años que te da FIAT-Chrysler -. De aqui se va a los hornos de pintura. Después de este proceso, baja a Planta Ensamble. 3.- Desde luego antes de las " Campanas ", pasa por varios procesos de adherencia de E-colant, Primer o Pintura Base, Color o pintura Secundaria, Pintura transparente. La pintura generalmente era PPG para tratamiento en hornos de pintura. Nota : * Los procesos están en continuo cambio, - Esto es mejora continua -, así que es posiblemente hayan cambiado algunos puntos o incluso muchos de ellos. * Si has o estés trabajando ahí es posible que sepas el proceso del WCM. * si no, en breve haré una web del proceso WCM, aplicado en la industria de la Transformación. ¡ Excelente día, y gracias por preguntar ! Silverio Osorno Disciplina : Orden. Limpieza y Puntualidad.
08:38 - 08:51 PLANTA ENSAMBLE: Instalación de asientos, montados por herramientas diseñadas para la operación. Se encuentra en línea final de Planta Ensamble.
Un sujeto del trabajo nos presumia de su fiat 500 cuando se lo entregaron y no me creyó que los ensamblaban aquí en México, creía que era 100% importado de Italia como un Ferrari o algo así.
Los primeros si eran traidos de Italia yo tenia uno y tenia una insignia que decia hecho en italia. La diferencia que tienen los de este video es que son de mejor calidad los fabricados en Toluca. ;)
Eggman ese modelo acá en Chile los traen desde Italia... hasta el modelo es italiano.. los que fabrican en Toluca son para México, USA y Canadá.. saludos
09:16 - 09:26 PLANTA ENSAMBLE: Área de auditorías. Aquí se pegan las etiquetas de Seguridad: Inflado de las llantas, Del uso de los cinturones de seguridad, Si el vehículo será Doméstico o de Exportación, así como varias etiquetas de aduanas. Después de esta operación se va a Prueba de Carretera.
07:32 - 08:02 PLANTA ENSAMBLE: Área de rodillos, para la calibración de todo el sistema eléctrico y electrónico del vehículo. Sin esta prueba el carro no puede salir de planta. Esta operación se encuentra a en línea final.
It's around 7,000 people all over Mexico. Unfortunately (or luckily) automotive plants are now always below a maximum of 4-5k workers. A 6,000 plant is considered huge nowadays
I have the fiat sport 500 2015 and I love it ... the only problem I have is the antenna and a part that is mounted on the bodywork but is part of the drawing of the window ... the rubber falls apart ... I have already had than change it twice ...😔
I have my Abarth for a year. The interior has a lot of rattles. Almost everyone experiences driver side window rattles. Dealer helps us fix it by adding lubricant at weather seal. Problem comes back in one week. My blower fan motor whining very noisy starting 7k miles. I will recommend the car to friends is don't like.
nsmsam , all cars will develop rattles but they are very easy to fix. I had a camry before and within six months was creaking and rattling. Because friction between plastics and between metal and plastic cause these perceived rattles. They are very easy to fix. Just get yourself a can of spray that the use for motorhomes to remove friction from sliding parts like sliding doors or windows. It works great. Spray some on the door seals, hinges, window channels, door panels where thr panels come in contact with the door. You dont have to use a lot. You will be amazed how quiet the car becomes when you eliminate creaks and rattles.
I didn't know that there is such a diference between production standarsds for us and eu market. There is also footage of Fiat 500 assemby line in europe (tichy, poland) on you tube. Check it out and find out why (vissualy) same cars cost a lot more in europe then in us.
No I live in the US...Houston....I guess I need to change my status...I did use to live in Poland....but Im buying my Abarth 500 from Northside Fiat in the Woodlands, Texas. After all is said and done it'll be around $28K...then Im having some aftermarket stuff done to it
@70noipmahc Wait, this is Factory Plant just for North American market. To lower costs production is in the Chrysler Factory in Mexico. But if you buy a Fiat 500 in Europe it is Made in Italy.
That's curious, because, in reality, here we spend 50% of the time trying to solve electronic problems on Thema and Freemont ;-). Anyway, you are right all 500 versions (including Abarth) are made in Poland for EU and in Mexico for NA
Hola a todos, tengo una duda que ojalá puedan aclarar; en este video noté que el FIAT 500 ensamblado en Toluca, tiene una "lupa" en los faros, sin embargo, al preguntar en la agencia me informan que todas las versiones cuentan con faros de halógeno sencillos sin la "lupa", esto a pesar de que en sus catalogos y pag. Web las fotos del vehículo aparecen con la "lupa"; mi pregunta es: porqué en méxico no venden la unidad con las lupas en los faros??? Gracias.
maldito carro...cada vez lo veo lo quiero...y ahora que lo veo desde su concepción lo quiero mas! fucking car....always see i want it....and now i saw from the bigginig i want it more!
Sorry Todd, but where did you read this? The 500 is already produced in Poland, but the two cars have different specs. Why should Fiat make them in Poland and then ship them across the atlantic ocean? I mean, we would be very happy here in Europe, but it doesn't make much sense
un trabajo admirable amigos de fiat sobretodo por dar trabajo a hermanos mexicanos tristemente todo esto lo echan a perder nuestros gobiernos llenos de corrupción y porquerías en los gobiernos mexicanos los admiro amigos de fiat
tell me about it....I have a 91 Dodge Shadow Convertible that Ive restored with a 2.5 turbo which was the last car that I bought new and prices have really jumped...no wonder loans are for 5 years or more now
Having been a Fiat parts manager in 1979 and seeing first hand how the D.O.T. forced Fiat to buy back all of the 850's sold in the USA and the laughable way Fiat N.A. handled their warranty claims (they didn't). I would like to see some re-assurance regarding rust & warranty issues as to how they are addressing this concern to those of us with long memories. What techniques are they using and what recalls have been issued so far.
Engine is 1.4 Turbo...160hp from the factory....as far as it being worth buying...that's an individual thing...I don't need a large vehicle and so I wanted something to whip around town in....its a great car and really peppy. It one of the fast 0-60 cars in and out of its class. stupid ass you tube wont let me post the link to the 0-60 comparisons
Do you know how many Fiat 500 are assembled per day ??? This ones comes to Brazil ad I just bought one ... the interesting part of this story is that my car was promissed to 120 days after ordering it. yep ... 120 days !!! Please let me know how many Fiat 500 are assembled per day or month. Tks in advance
Looking at how much they're driven in the plant I'm beginning to think I was the only one to test drive my Abarth. Odometer had 4 miles on it when I drove it off the lot.
Interesting you say that when you bought it did it still have the h next to the mileometer if it didn't then it had been put back to zero before you had it The car can do 99 miles on the h and still be returned to zero with the menu function on the right stalk as long as it hasn't gone over 100
Concordo nettamente con le tue considerazioni. Aggiungerei: Toluca nemmeno è un impianto su cui si è dovuto intervenire con investimenti elevatissimi. La fabbrica esiste dal 78, ed era in perfetto ordine quando è entrata nell'orbita Fiat con Chrysler
Fiat is moving Fiat 500 production to Poland from Mexico. I forgot what vehicle will replace the 500 in Mexico but there are supposed to be no job cuts.
@mrtecno99 i am thinkin about the same thing!!!! u weren't conveinced that the production's methods used in this vid below isenough!!!This is a link for the production of the Europenean version.
Guarda che proprio la 500 non è fabbricata in Italia, ma in Polonia (a Tychy). Questa è la fabbrica di Toluca, Messico, per i modelli venduti nelle Americhe.
Get rid of the fiat 500 sport if u have one now! In less two years I’ve spent over 6k in parts, labor! More than car is worth! I’ve replaced literally everything under the hood now almost! Down to wheel bearings now. This is insane !
Since I own one now (used '12 Sport), I've read up on 'em. The North American version gets its parts from 80% different vendors vs. the Poland version. We know where the engine comes from but I always wondered about the five speed transmission ? Assembled in Toluca at the plant ? Shipped from Poland ? Shipped from Italy ?
yep the old Lada sedan was a copy of the Fiat 124 sedan to a tee .but it cost much less .I tink that version was a really good car .reliable and simple . New cars are loaded with profit adding gadgets . If you need GPS in your car stay home or buy a $5 map idiots . You see the option cost of one of those in-dash GPS system . I priced out a base Fiat 500 then added automatic and air conditioning . total price was over twenty grand .give me a break that car should cost 1o grand fully loaded .
Ascolta caro Luca, qui non si tratta di fare il gioco dell'indovinello. Il Sig. Fiat ha gia' rilasciato che se non riesce a vendere queste Fiat 500 negli Stati Uniti, chiudera' 3-4 posti in Italia.