doc steals the show in this movie.... and to have Micheal Beign play a bad guy for once too... hard to top this one. Bar scene where doc and ringo meet... WOW.
Great comeback indeed. I have this movie and watch it frequently. Makes you wonder though if Doc was really like that in real life. If he was then I would have been his friend instead of his enemy for sure.
Stone David Also if you watch closely, when he slings his guns, he slings one forwards and the other backwards just to show that he still has enough hand eye coordination to gun him down on the spot even if he is drunk.
When you realize: "There's no throne, there is no version of this where you come out on top. Maybe your army comes and maybe it's too much for us but it's all on you. Because if we can't protect the Earth, you can be damned well sure we'll avenge it!" was exactly the same thing Tony was saying to Loki as Wyatt said to Ike.
@David31567 Yeah, Doc instigated it all by winking at Billy, and as soon as Wyatt saw Billy's expression change... "Oh my God." And all hell broke loose! 😂
this whole scene is stupid, Earp carried a long barrel revolver and used it like a night stick. If you were wearing a gun he would grab your right hand and then draw his revolver with his right hand and whack you across the forehead with it.
@@DeBannanaKingOfAll Earp often had to deal with drunk cowboys and that's what he did. He would whack them across the forehead and stun them drag them off to jail. I wish people would do some research. but a lot of the story is missing as there just wasn't time to explain his relations with the cowboys etc.
Watch the way he spins the guns. He spins them in opposite directions. The fact that he could still do that when he's piss drunk makes him even more badass.
plincoln21 from what I'm given to understand the real character of Ike Clanton was as a "a real ornery dislikable fellow with no real courage or conviction" so the actor must have really studied him in depth.
The fact that most people never realized that Ike Clanton was played by Stephen Lang, just shows what a great character actor he is. I know Kurt Russell and Val Kilmer get the attention (rightly so), but I have always believed that Lang played one of the best parts of the show, especially considering his actual screen time in the movie itself.
Him and Billy Bob Thornton. I know both actors but i wouldn't have recognized them without Google. I knew that they are on this movie but the entire time I was like "when the fuck are they going to show up? "
Love that scene you can see all his courage drain from his body and that quiver in his voice. Brilliant supporting performance. This film imo has the most impressive cast with meaningful parts in any film I've seen
I was in college when this movie came out. Me and a few guys were supposed to meet up with some girls afterwards for dinner; but the movie was so freaking awesome that we ended up buying tickets for the next show and watched it again instead of meeting up with the ladies. This was pre cellphone days; so when we showed up on Monday for class, the girls were pissed that we ditched them. Our history professor thought we were exaggerating about how good the movie was. The next day he came into class and told everyone that he watched it the night before, and it was the best action movie he had watched in years. The girls still didn’t talk to us for a few more days.
How the heck did you notice he spun them in two directions? I went back and looks and by god you're right! You must have learned that on DVD extras or something. No way your eyes are naturally that sharp xD
Val is brilliant, but you gotta love Kurt's unique lines like "Skin that smoke wagon" and "Turn your head into a canoe". Those expressions really capture the way they spoke back then.
@@Lookin4LoveInAllTheWrongPlaces First of all. Calm down.No one said anything about being a historian. I wasn't even being rude. I was just saying, this movie takes place before 1898. No need to start giving attitude for nothing.
@@nova_raindrop1257 The big “Gunfight at the O K Corral was in 1881. The coin Earp turned and laid on the Faro table during the Ringo/Holliday exchange in the Oriental Saloon was a U.S. Morgan silver dollar. Nice coins. I have a few of them.
Doc Holiday.. with how careless he is.. is absolutely terrifying. He just does not give a fuck, and keeps performing visibly above others while drunk. I can't tell if he just does better drunk, or if he's handicapping himself.
Can we take a moment to appreciate that Kilmer, while holding his cup, spun both guns at the same time but in opposite directions? Dude did an amazing job from the dialect down to every last detail
Val Kilmer has been under rated as an actor for many years , awesome dude ! But this , i think is one of his greatest roles ! I know it's his sons favorite !
So because the line is SO GOOD, you think that it couldn't have been written? What? IBE, inference to the best explanation, it was written. Fucking, google it, most of the stuff on this movie says the best lines were historical quotes. And the REAL Doc Holliday was a bad ass. Jesus kids are getting fking dumb these days.
You can genuinely see fear in Ike's eyes and hear it in his voice when he gets that revolver pointed at his head, even moreso when Billy says "Let's rush him" and Ike begs him no. Awesome acting!
I’ve seen this scene at least 47,000 times, and one of the most underrated things is the total lack of hesitation by Ike in complying with Wyatt. What a great cowardly heel. “Now tell ‘em to get back.” Exactly 0.0025 seconds later “Go on now get back.”
MY NAME IS DOC "I'm your huckleberry." - This quote represents my unwavering confidence and willingness to take on any challenge or confrontation. I see myself as the perfect match for anyone who dares to oppose me. "Why, Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave." - With this statement, I am taunting Johnny Ringo, implying that he appears fearful and defeated. I revel in the psychological warfare of the moment, using my words to undermine and intimidate my opponent. "I have not yet begun to defile myself." - This quote showcases my rebellious and unapologetic nature. I refuse to conform to societal norms or expectations. I believe that true freedom comes from embracing one's own desires and indulging in life's pleasures. "You're a daisy if you do." - This remark is delivered with a mix of sarcasm and superiority. It suggests that the other person's actions or choices will ultimately lead to their downfall or demise. I find amusement in pointing out their potential mistakes or missteps. "I'm in my prime." - With this statement, I assert my self-assuredness and belief in my own abilities. I see myself as being at the height of my power and influence, ready to face any challenge or obstacle that comes my way. "I'll be damned." - This phrase reflects a sense of resignation or acceptance in the face of difficult circumstances. It conveys a recognition that sometimes life deals us unfavorable cards, but I am determined to face adversity head-on. "It seems poker's not your game, Ike. I know, let's have a spelling contest." - This quote reveals my sharp wit and enjoyment of banter. I use it to mock Ike, suggesting that his incompetence in poker renders him unfit for any intellectual challenge, offering a spelling contest as a sarcastic alternative. "It appears my hypocrisy knows no bounds." - This statement reflects my self-awareness of my own contradictions and inconsistencies. It acknowledges that I may preach one thing but act in a way that contradicts those principles, indicating a certain level of moral ambiguity. "You know, Ed, if I thought you weren't my friend, I just don't think I could bear it." - This quote reveals a vulnerable side to my character. Despite my rough exterior, I value friendship and loyalty. It expresses the significance of companionship and the emotional impact it has on me. "There's no normal life, Wyatt, it's just life. Get on with it." - This quote embodies my philosophy of embracing life as it comes, without seeking or expecting a conventional sense of normalcy. It encourages living in the present moment and embracing the unpredictability of existence.
I still think that the real Wyatt Earpe would have pulled the trigger the instant the barrel of his pistol made contact with Ike Clantons head and asked who's next it would have got rid of some of his problems later on
Damn Val Kilmer should have gotten an Oscar for this performance. I would rival it to the insanity of Heath Ledger's performance as the Joker. Not comparing the roles just the acting abilities they both have.
It's a fair comparison. Both men stole their respective movies! Although I'm with Aquapetloc Yapokankac, Val's performance here is just a little tiny bit more awesome.
@@harmonyjones8035 No, it is really not. Heaths performance was considerably superior and i am not talking about the Oscar which he earned, whereas this movie was not even nominated. Heath was one of the greatest actors of this generation. His talent was undeniable. He showed great charisma and great versatility in his roles. Val is good. That good? Certainly not. Even Marlon Brando dismissed his talent!
@@vardellsfolly5200 Nominations and awards mean nothing at all. Using our own eyes we can see that Ledger's only "famously good" work was in Batman. He did great! People loved his performance for a reason. But imagine that performance in your mind. Imagine his Joker and tell me if you think -- actually -- people are stupid and the performance was really nothing special. He died. That made a lot of people gush. I didn't gush. Dead or no dead, I look at the facts. Now imagine (or watch) Kilmer's performance in this film. His eyes, his voice, his mannerisms. They are AT LEAST as good as Ledger's overrated (but good) permormance as Joker. You'll argue with me now and say "Yeah but what about blah" but before you do, ask yourself if you'd be even talking about Ledger if he wasn't dead. He was talented (all actors are). But he was also dead. That made a lot of people delude themselves into thinking he was more than he was. Human nature! Nothing wrong in it! But it's unbalanced people like you and your opinon on great acting.
Lot of good lines: Earp's "head into a canoe", Doc H's " two guns...one for each of yuh". But I kind of like Ike's delivery of "No. He ain't bluffing". The lovely lilt in his quaking voice coupled with Ike's facial expression of panic - it's a winner.
Tombstone is the only movie that when I see it playing on tv, network or cable, I have to stop and watch it. I’ve seen this movie dozens of times and still love it. Every actor nailed the roles they were given.
preston palomo Or maybe he was so drunk he spun it two different directions? Or maybe he's so skilled he can spin it different directions while drunk? Who knows with Doc! :)
My dad grew up in the streets of New York in the late 60's-late 70's... I've seen a few people doubt his word/resolve, but he never bluffed in serious situations. It's important to know if one of these people are bluffing when a friend thinks it's smart to take them on. Ike saved them all.
How they were able to juggle so many characters so well is impressive but how they got them to be played by 20 plus complete frickin legends is beyond me
I would imagine it's most every boy's dream to be a cowboy in a western, at some point in their childhood. If you're an actor and someone asks you to be in a western, even as a side character with two lines, you'd probably do it if you had the time. These guys found time to be in Tombstone. Would you say no if Kurt Russell were the one asking?
Val Kilmer may not be the best actor out there but he was absolutely perfect and brilliant as Doc Holliday. This scene is a classic. "I got two guns, one for each of ya".
Haven't read a comment this unworthy in a long time. Kilmer was one of the best actors in his prime and pretty much made it impossible for anyone else to play Holiday.
Kilmer is incredible. He was even awesome in MacGruber. He typed and lip synced his few lines in Top Gun Maverick and made a highlight of an already great movie.
This is still one of my all-time favorite movie lines to this day. Kurt Russel's intense and genuine delivery of the perfectly-worded threat backed up by Ike's (Stephen Lang) true yellow-bellied provocateur colors being exposed at gunpoint is cinematic perfection that puts a smile on my face every time.
Jake Davis the late writer Kevin Jarre was writer for movie. Kilmer and Russell did help with lines and direct the movie original director Jarre was fired from directing and Director George Cosmatos was there more to keep things going smoothly while Russell helmed The Director chair as told by Russell himself. Actually Tombstone essentially had 3 Directors when Jarre was fired he took over writing.
Radrook it was because the preacher in the beginning said a pale white horse will come and riding him is death and when he sees him in the woods doc is super sick and pale just my take on it
@Urrcreavesh I always figured Doc did the cups because he didn't want to show Ringo has fast he was. Plus the cup scene was a great show of Doc's personality.
Good catch, I felt it seemed off, but now I know it was stylistically off by Kilmer. Actually more difficult then two simultaneous symmetrical spins. Playing the mindless drunk.
That is the type of line writers will call each other in 3 in the morning to half brag to their writing friends about their brilliant quip and half double check if it was lifted, since only good ideas get plagiarized.
This movie is one of best Westerns ever released, the cast had great chemistry and made each scene memorable. Val Kilmer should've taken home an Oscar for his Doc Holliday portrayal, robbed!
@@leftcoaster67 Wyatt was looking straight into Ike's eyes whe he said "You die first." As you said, Ike saw the determination. Yeah, and the gun as well.
It's called the Oscars regressing into the same category as Nobel and Pulitzer. Once honored awards, now considered bad jokes among the civilizations of man. (I do 100% agree with you that Kilmer deserves an Oscar, though)
@@HK--nf1sc I think it was more than the competition. Michael Biehn said Val has an undeserved reputation as being hard to work with, but he just doesn't suffer fools gladly. Michael doesn't either.
Coming here and seeing all the good reviews of this movie has made my day, was my late fathers favourite and mine too, glad Doc/Val get the recognition he deserves 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
It's a matter of persective I figure. Earp's been in enough life-or-death situations at this point to know that if a fight starts, with him in the middle of several opponents armed with guns, there's no way he'll survive. But he also know 1) most people are not interested in dying, and 2) the one that moves first is usually the leader. So when Ike stepped forward, Earp's world narrowed down to just him and Ike, and the fact that if he saw or heard *anything* moving suddenly near him, he would pull the trigger, killing Ike, and then try to get the next closest guy in his line of sight. He knew he probably wouldn't get the rest of them, but Ike's death was guaranteed. Ike could see this in his eyes, and not wanting to die, he told the others to back off. Wyatt's willingness to die trumped Ike's desire to live in this situation. Simple as that. Look up "Hagakure" if you want to learn more about this mindset.
@@eurosalamander Wyatt actually did face down a mob in Tombstone. The mob had come to lynch a gambler named Johnnie Behind the Deuce. Earp confronted them alone & told them that he would kill the 1st man that stepped forward and as many more that he could before they got to him. The mob decided that backing off was the wiser decision. All you have to do, if you wonder if Earp would have done as he told the mob; is to look at his photo and at his eyes. They are ice cold! He did not bluff! In fact, to illustrate the cold purpose of the man you only need to know what Virgil Earp's wife once said about him. "I never saw Wyatt ever laugh".
Yeah Steven Lang is a great actor. He's also good in the Movie: Avatar as Col. Quarich,Gods and Generals as. General Stonewall Jackson, Gettysburg as General Pickett which he filmed at the same time as Tombstone was getting film. And a few other actors from Tombstone were also in Gettysburg including Sam Elliott who played General Buford.
Stephan lang did a lot of period movies, his depiction of General George Pickett in Gettysburg was incredible, his look of shock and grief when his troops were mowed down attacking the union center was spot on.
@@jtm726 I knew he was going to be the main antagonist in Avatar but that speech he made to the newbies was inspiring. It really set the stage for how invested he was in fighting and how tough an opponent he was going to be.
hughesfan100 Hey man, chill out. I heard ya, loud and clear, and agree. He was excellent as Stonewall Jackson in Gods and Generals (have it on DVD) and again in Avatar. He said he started lifting weights for a role on Broadway, and just took to it. Yeah, I'd say he did, haha.
hughesfan100 who r u mad at ? Im to old to be a yuppie. That was the 80s sorry if it was me ur mad at, no intention of making anyone angry. I can do that to my roommate LOL
"I almost thought you wouldnt show" "Im your huckleberry" "My fights not with you Holliday." "I beg to differ sir, we started a game we never quite got to finish. play for blood, remember?" "I was only foolin" "I wasn't"
@@Shiirow in an interview with Michael biehn (Ringo) he said that when Ringo agreed to duel Doc that he perceived it as genuine fun. Two truly badass characters, did not give a fuck about death.
Funny stuff, I like also in the casino, where Ike tells Wyatt, law don't go around here, then a second, Wyatt as only he could cuts him off in mid sentence with, I heard you the first time, Well check it out yourself it is funny. The guy playing Ike here ho is he?
I think he's my favorite in this film. The whole cast is wonderful but I really liked him. You probably know this but you can also see him in Avatar, Gangster Squad and Don't Breathe. I haven't seen DB yet.
"I have two guns; one for each of ya." Badass. Love, love, love Doc Holliday (Val Kilmer). One of the best performances to have been cheated out of an Oscar.
After Avatar, people started wanting him as Cable-because FFS-he IS Cable. He even put up some photos of himself at the gym during the casting once he heard people wanted him for the role.
I more appreciated how Wyatt was standing alone in that street to dispense justice while nobody else stepped up, not even the sheriff who was merely rubbernecking. And then comes in Wyatt's best friend to back him up. It's not about stealing the show, it's about being there for your friend when he is being a suicidal maniac doing the right thing. That's what made Doc awesome.
If you look carefully when Doc says "I have two guns, one for each of ya" he spins both guns, one backwards one forwards with the cup still on his finger. When the guns stop one is aimed at the mans head and one at his heart. Doc Holiday is truly a one of a kind bad ass!
This scene really shows two sides of Wyatt. When he tells everyone to stand back, you can hear it in his voice he is sincere about not wanting someone else to get hurt nor the situation to escalate. When Ike approaches him and says turn him loose and the rest of the Cowboys walk up towards him; his voice has a tone of certainty, facial expression changes, and you can see the devil in his eyes.
It was one of Wyatt's greatest strengths was knowing who the real cowards are and calling their bluff. You won't kill me, I'll kill you first, and if your friends get me then first round's on me in hell. Of course, the best part is Wyatt always offers them an out. "Tell 'em to get back". Now it's like Wyatt has an "ally" because neither want to die that night.
And he had NO IDEA that Doc was going show up and back him up. That's what makes Doc and Wyatt brothers. By the time Virgil shows up, the situation was already well in hand. Ike knew he was dead, and knew Doc would kill at least 2-3 more of em, giving Wyatt a chance to wheel around using Ike as cover to peg the rest.
The new one honestly just doesn't have that soulful feel that the original one with Yul Brenner and Steve McQueen did. That movie, Rio Bravo, Tombstone, and of course The Good The Bad And The Ugly hands down are the best westerns ever made. EVER O.O
@@MrNowayjose1 the new true grit or the John Wayne version? I prefer the John Wayne version purely for.the scene at the horse trader n the somewhat optimistic but open ending. The new one is fine but the ending is a bit of a downer.
You look into a man's eyes, a real man. You see the fearlessness, behind the corneas. The reflection of a man who's killed before and has no objections of doing it again. It's a scary thing.
Never noticed it before: at :51 right side you can see Val Kilmer (Doc Holiday) come slowly walking into the scene so full of confidence he is finishing his drink as he walks...
Damn it all to hell, the Val Kilmer Tombstone clips are enough reason for a time machine to be invented so it can be used to right the injustice of him being robbed of an Oscar for supporting actor.
One of my favorite things about this movie has got to be all of the fantastic quotes. They kind of remind me of some of Clint Eastwood's lines in his classic movies. This movie is full of them and they just stick with you.
"You die first. Get it? Your friends might get me in a rush, but not before I make your head into a canoe. Do you understand me?" Probably one of the best lines in the whole damn movie, aside from all of Doc's catchphrases lol!
The sad part was that before this Curly Bill looked genuinely concerned about accidentally shooting Fred due to him being drunk. Like basically an "Aw shit, what have I done?" moment.
Because he was. Fred didn't die right away, and was able to give a statement that it WAS a accident. So Bill got off. He honestly liked the guy apparently, if I remember correctly. And Bill wasn't drunk-he was high as hell. Opium.
the way doc delivers his lines is priceless and his character is just epic. I know Wyatt Earp was badass but doc just gets to my core as if hes the kinda guy who can see into your soul and debate whether to kill you or not at the drop of a hat. also shows just how good val kilmer can be
In my opinion, Doc was more dangerous than even Wyatt was. You can tell because Doc just didn't have as much moral baggage as Wyatt. Doc would kill you without a second thought. Wyatt would probably let you live once he saw you beat.
+Syphon Filter Doc was not one who wanted to kill. However, he was very good at it. Wyatt said he was the fastest and deadliest man with a pistol he knew. That was saying something considering who said it.
I have a new appreciation for the actor that played Ike. He did a great job of portraying somebody that was so unpleasant and beneath contempt. Very believable, a performance that basically flies under the radar.
