TOO MUCH Hype? What Killed Project Velocity w/Av3k & ins 

hey cody wanna play diabotical sometime

Thanks for everything, the maps you released are amazing.

thanks for putting somethin gout. it sucked to pay to patreon and not even get a last update of no more :(

@@ronniemillsap Hey Ronnie, official announcement was put out through the PV discord. Sorry for any impression of a lack of communication on our end! And again, thanks for your support on the Patreon :)

Appreciate sharing your point of view Cody ! I honestly wasnt aware of servers problems untill Ins told me that. kinda never was a problem when I was active in QL but as I said it was legit 12 years ago last time I played this game. Av3k

A real shame :(

Unfortunately money talks :(

Gonna send this to him and make sure he does!

Quake 6 hopefully!

The CSGOLounge days :(

@@EndpointQuake Truly. I think that this was mostly caused by teams, players, and others who had the IPs, more than it was caused by hacks/attacks that led the servers to leak, especially with private/unlisted servers. I would anticipate that this same thing happened on PV.

I see theres a mod called Quake Champions Classic... might have to give it a try!

There was some info on a Quake game that would be superficially like Quake 1 with a female protagonist but I think that was just something someone said offhand that went way out of proportion and was reported as like, active, relatively late development. It would be cool if there was another slipgate-travelling Quake campaign though, I might be interested in playing that even if the MP isn't too good. It's almost not that important if Quake 6 is being made, the actual featureset of the game is insanely important. If Quake 6 comes out with missing modes, no player-owned servers, no custom maps, no demos, graphics that can't be lowered/raised to insane degrees, inconsistent player physics, bad engine, bad mouse input(really feels bad in QC), it almost doesn't matter if it does release.

Maybe a new Quake game can give the best of both worlds?

Pretty much agree, I played quite a bit during the testing phases and hoped that they'd accept some levels of feedback, but some of the problems are foundational, or borderline negligent. Basic things like there not being demos, custom maps, or proper private servers which I can host and dial into just aren't available. The fact the game uses very similar damage tables to Quake 3 despite player health and damage resistance being generally lower is a headscratcher, and pretty stupid. I get what they were trying for with Sacrifice, but the fact there's no CTF, Clan Arena took forever to come out, no Freeze Tag, bots populate dead servers etc makes it feel nothing like a full quake experience in the past. That's before things like the fact the engine is AWFUL, and does not poll the mouse properly which was not a prolbem to the same degree in Q3(locked 125), Q4 MAX, QL, or now Quake derrivatives like Reflex and Diabotical. This gets even worse because there aren't demos, so someone who streams is gonna get inconsistent FPS, maybe have to reduce graphics to have the game look like ass, and still get their mouse going all over the place without the option to play in one set of visuals and watch back in another. The champions are almost an afterthought, they're really a terrible addition to the game for sure, BUT compared to the other issues with the game, champions are pretty low on the list. Like if it was just Quake Life + champions in the duel mode, I think that could have been survivable, and I remember when ID was experimenting with this. I actually really like the idea of different starting weapons for being by choice, I think that might be the best naked spawn idea without making it too op or too useless, so it's not like every change is bad, just the majority of them. What happens in the next Quake(or ID duel game, even if that ends up being DOOM or something else) is entirely dependent on if they use a functional engine with mapping and demo support, that polls the mouse at a consistent rate, that runs properly, and where the damage tables make sense. In a worst case scenario, I don't see why it's not Quake 4 or Quake 3 engine, but I don't see why the current IDTech can't handle some hit cylinders and fast movers.

Ok, podcast with julbars incoming !

It has to be deeper than that. The idea that this is just a problem with Quake Live, and is unavoidable doesn't sound right. Normally this happens by players leaking IP, but there's things that can be done like putting the server behind a data centre, or not giving all players the IP, to minimize the number who have it. If one player causes a DDOS and the match somehow gets finished, the server IP can be reset, and that player won't be provided the next IP, so there shouldn't be a way to continue attacks without more legwork. This all seems super weird and poorly explained to me.