I just purchased the Plug in Kia, Niro, because I was absolutely Spoiled by my Mercedes-Benz ML 250 Diesel. 30 MPG was great, and diesel engines last for over a million miles. I first thought about the KIA Sportage, but the price was way too much for what you get. I jumped on the Kia Niro Plug-In. WOW no gas yet because 90 percent of my driving is grocery getting and once in a blue moon, a long trip (over 800 Miles) I carry both 120 volt charger that takes 2 days to charge adn the 240 volt charger, that charges in just a few hours!. The Niro Plug-In has tons of features, outstanding warranty, and an ICE COLD Air conditioning that makes a man realize he has nipples too! I am VERY impressed with the Niro and will connect to your Android phone with Spotify, plus Google maps that are ALWAYS updated, (Not on the standard car maps that were usually installed last year) Thank you for your GREAT information! I am an absolute penny pincher, and am even trying to figure out how to double or triple the size of my lithium battery to go even further for free. Now to figure out a solar system to charge the KIA from the sun. :)
The entire underside of the 2023 is now shielded with removable panels to keep most contamination away. The 2023 electrical cable shroud has also been modified to allow any possible contaminants to freely drain off. Toyotas constant improvement company are why they are so trusted. They’re not perfect but they seem to always want to improve.
Not sure whether the 2023 Rav4 Prime is different tech, but mine arrived in mid-April, so one month of use in the moderate temperatures in southern England (5-15 degrees C typically during the day). Takes 5 hours to fully charge, although we have 240V in the UK so that may make a difference. My range has never been lower than 45 miles and on local in-town round-trip commuting, it'll do closer to 55-60 miles on a full battery. In fact, the "expected" range started at 42 miles when I first got the vehicle, and on full charge it now shows 51. Our fuel filling stations have minimum 5 litre rules, and I was shocked the first week to only need 3.9 litres before the fuel pump tripped out. I managed to nurse it up to 5l exactly, but clearly don't need to fill up every week. I have done a couple of longer runs, but my total fuel bill a month would have been (at current prices) £180 in my old Renault Scenic, £135 in my Rav4 Hybrid, but so far I have spent £59 on electricity and £32 on fuel, covering 786 miles. Pretty nice.
Yup. Mistake made so I now deplete to close to empty. Takes three months at this point! Went on holiday, did 1200 miles, filled up before I left, then a week after I got back!
It looks like Outlander is the best choose, it is more EV car than a hybrid, with no gearbox, no PTU, no rear axle, a good EV range, 7 seats, good acceleration, nice design, rich options, good price and Japan quality.
Great video, thanks. One omission... the new US tax rebate. They've reduced the battery size requirement (now it's just a minimum of 7 kwhr) and imposed restrictions on battery material sourcing and assembly locations. Kinda difficult to find good information on that rebate at the moment, and I'd love it if you chimed in. Also, unless I'm very much mistaken, the Ford Escape PHEV is the only vehicle from that list that is assembled in the US. I have no idea about the battery material sourcing. But if you can knock $7500 off your taxes for the year by buying an Escape instead of a Niro or Tucson, that makes a big difference on the budget outlook for one of these vehicles.
@@mcraven747 pretty much, from what I'm seeing too. "Market Adjustment Fees". Love corporate capitalism: heads we win, tails you lose. ETA: I don't know whether there's any correlation between rebate and fees actually. I don't have that dataset (or the expertise to analyze it anyway, lol)
@@pstimpert Market Adjustment Fees are quite simply just money grabs based on current supply and demand economics. Many people buy cars just to resell them at a profit for the same reason, although it is not allowed in some jurisdictions.
Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV outmatches Rav 4 Prime via 7 seat option, cargo space and the best part: fast charging availability, so if you drive longer distances, you can extend EV drive range and save more money on fuel while having snacks ..
In an ideal world, I would be walking up to a Toyota dealership and driving away with a Toyota Rav4 Prime. But, Toyota has not really been up to the task with investing in an EV future. On top of that, the current supply chains are already straining supply. So, as a consumer who is eager to make the transition to a PHEV, I'm left with going to a dealership (in SoCal) and have the associates stare me straight in the face and ask for a $10k markup...with no federal rebates because of the new legislation. Crazy world. I have to consider #9 on the list as Ford (the one dealer I found) accepts custom orders with no dealer markups or add-ons. Great video BTW!!!
I bought a BMW x5 45e. It handles beautifully, can tow around 7000 lbs, has self driving mode, is AWD, it is the height of luxury with well thought out technology, and is an easy to use, plug in hybrid. Battery only mode is 30-37 miles.
In 2018 i bought a honda clarity PHEV in Canada $39999. Before tax and at the time a $14000. Gov incentive with 72km electric range and combined 500km. It is amazing I got 115000 km's on it now and only did brakes on it. It was discontinued in 2021...
Why on Earth would you need to replace THE BRAKES on a hybrid after 71k miles? Not even my regular gas car needed new brakes until about 80k to 85k miles.
I'm so sick of these types of videos. What's the point of talking about these SUVs if there are none for sale? If they are for sale, some dealers are raping customers. Make a video on which dealers to never ever buy from and upcoming inventory. That's what potential buyers care about.
Not sure about this video. In other one that he talks about, he does mention the Hyundai Tucson plug in hybrid as # 3 for best one. Also I wonder if he is paid to promote RAV4 Prime since it was the first on the list on pr ious video. Toyota Rav 4 hybride, at the moment have n Many issues in regard to the electric system under the car as for corrosion which is only guarantee for 3 years. There is a law suit at the moment with Toyota in regards to RAV4 hybride for this situation.
RAV4 Prime at local dealership is on a 2 year old waiting list of 13 people still. Made in Japan and they are producing very few for the market due to supply issues. Placed my name on a hybrid instead that is a 12 month waiting list. Crazy times.
I've also been trying to buy a Rav4 Prime for the last 18 months. It's hopeless, until the supply catches up with backlogged demand. I've been driving a Prius Prime since July 2019 and am thoroughly convinced that PHEV's are the way to go in the Western US and Canada, where inter-city driving distances are so much longer than on the East coast, that "range anxiety" with pure EV's is a serious problem.
It is too bad that the new Honda CR-V does not came as a plug-in hybrid. It is well built, bigger inside and I believe much quieter on the highway than the very, very good Toyota RAVA4 Prime.
When will we have a Diesel-electric (or Gasoline-electric) that uses a smaller 500cc (not a 2.5L or 2500cc) 10KW generator to recharge the battery pack and power the drive motors? You know, just like the current Diesel electric locomotives have been doing for decades (sans batteries). The generator constantly charges the battery pack (ex. an 8.8kWh battery in
Because that's a dumb and inefficient way of using gasoline for energy. Diesel-Electric trains are not charging a battery pack to drive the wheels, much like massive Earth mover trucks, they simply convert the power to electric to drive the electric motors because it's impractical to build a transmission directly linking the two. The E-CVT transmissions in many hybrids give a direct link between the engine and wheels and are much more efficient than generating electricity and converting it back again to drive the car. Range extender cars have already been produced and were mostly a flop.
@@jasono2139 Geeze , I wasn't applying for a patent. Just wondering why we needed 2.5L engines to drive cars when a .5L generator could supply the power comparable to that supplied by the batteries.
Hi Shari, Do you see any chance of new car prices gonna go down at some point in the future? or is it just continue going up. (We’re talking about 1 year period give or take) And what is the best time to buy a car, at the beginning, middle, or at the end of a year, and at the beginning, mid, or at the end of a month? Love your video by the way 👍
New car prices will go up but far more gradually than they did this past year. Unfortunately with the severe shortage of cars there is really no benefit to timing the market anymore. Buy/order when you need. It's really more now about shopping around.
So.....Top 4.... #1 - Rav 4 < You can't get it in Canada unless you wait 3-4 years plus they are marking it up 10 THOUSAND over MSRP #2 - Lexus RX - Half the price of a new house 15 years ago. No thank you ($90,000+) #3 - Lexus NX - Over priced and unaffordable for most people #4 - Mitsubishi - Affordable price AND it's available.... Guess which one I bought last week.....
Isn't this material a bit contradictory to another of your videos? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-SfzUSRoO9js.html in this video the Volvo XC60 Recharge seems recommended. however in the second video the XC60 appears in Top 10 worst hybrids with reliability at it's worst as per Consumer report. Can you please explain this?
Not impressed with the fuel economy of Hybrid Vehicles in general, given my 10 year old KIA gives me 6 to 7 litres per 100 km on mainly freeway driving! Not worth the hassle of the Hybrid $y$tem to be honest 😅
The best no1. will be: 2023 Honda CRV Hybrid # Bigger and Bold and Stronger No.2 2023 Hyundai Santa Fe Plug In No.3 2023 Lexus RXh No.4 2023 Honda Pilot Hybrid No.5 2023 Toyota Highlander Hybrid The bad one 2023 RAV4, rough drive, cheap plastic 2023 Kia, rough drive, not reliable, cheap made 2023 Volvo 2023 Ford Mustang EV 2023 ID4
One of Germany car expert magazine compares plug hybrid Toyota Lav4 with Kia Spotage. The magazine announced kia spotage is 1 generation better than Toyota lav4. Go to see very famous German magazine in Europe.
I can relate to that. Don’t get why they are so popular in the US. Infotainment is at least one generation behind almost any other phev,no matter what brand…
I will argue one of the hallmarks of an "suv" is all wheel drive..the ford escape and huyandi niro you feature are front drive only , therefore not suvs but raised hatchbacks
Bought a ford escape PHEV, Titanium. Very happy with it. 80% of electric power on 7Km so far. Urban travel mostly. took 7 month from ordrering to delevery
How can you recommend the rav4 prime and not mention the poor design of the rear high voltage cable that corrodes and cost $6000 to repair. Very misleading
Even with that risk I'd still buy one if I could. No car is perfect and other options have more drawbacks than this. This is easily preventable with simple oil spray rustproofing until Toyota solves it.
Another mention for the Lincoln Corsair GT. Its made in the US (Kentucky), is eligible for tax incentives, runs on Regular fuel (most others are Premium), and is a 2.5L Atkinson Cycle engine developed by Toyota. Close to 30 miles on pure electric, great mileage on pure ICE mode and even better as Hybrid, Best of all worlds.
I bite the bullet and brought the RAV4 Prime 2023. Just Wow. Love the vehicle. It has a comfortable ride, firm handling, quick acceleration, and luxurious interior. On a level 2 charger( Chargepoint), it takes about 2 hours 20 min from 0 to 100%. I am driving to and from work in city driving round trip in EV mode around 25 miles and I still have 1/2 battery power left. I have been driving a week in strictly EV mode and I still have a full tank of gas with a HV range of 560 miles. Insane!!! Just imagine if Toyota can some how improve the EV range to 100 miles in the future, this vehicle would be the top selling brand worldwide and will set the standard for all other PHEV. Now I wonder if I should start using HV mode to use some of the gas in the vehicle before it loses its fuel burning efficiency from staying too long in a tank.😮
As of now, my personal favorite PHEV is MY23 Outlander hands down. One of the most important factors missing in your review is the DC charging capability, that's a deal breaker for me personally. On a side note, the Lexus picks look soo ugly in their design(lost of interest immediately), and Toyota is kinda hyped up imo.
👍. You provide the reviews everyone is interested in. Nailed it on the top 2. Great job ✅ Folks, don’t get sucked into an auto purchase which takes 1/3 of your income. You’ll never get ahead and assume a lifetime of liability and debt is normal. (The objective of auto advertising). It’s not. If a deep recession or a depression hits the bank takes everything and you are left with nothing. If you’re doing it right the bank pays you money, you don’t pay the bank. Be an owner not a loaner.
The RAV4 Prime gets terrible reviews. Poor steering wheel feedback, and terrible handling. Do your homework. The Ford Escape plug-in hybrid costs less and has a 37 mile range in electric mode only. A little less but it’s made in the USA and handles so much better than the RAV4. And you can get a trailer towing package with the Escape!
don't by the Volvo XC recharge! It has a Propulsion system problem. i had a lemon and got a second one which is having the same problem as before. lasts 2-4 months before it just bombs!
I have an XC recharge and also a lemon. enging light keeps coming on. same issue every 2-4 months same problem. mine issue is with the on board charger. Avoid volvo.
Where are BMW X5e or Mercedes GLE350e or EclassPHEV or JLR Range Rover Sport EV or Porsche Cayenne PHEV ? They all have better EV range then any car in the video, better quality and better looking.
All of the Toyota hybrids driven in areas that use road salt suffer from main power wire corrosion after two or three years . After 3 years or 60,000 km Toyota won't cover the $7000 repair to replace the power cable . Mine has 57,450 km but is four months pass 3 years and now needs a new cable . After owning 6 Toyota suvs I won't be be buying another once this one goes . Cablegate applies to all wheel drive products but not front wheel drive . Lexus , Highlander , Rav4 ect. . No long term fix is available other than a new cable with a redesigned end that still corrodes because of galvanic corrosion . Then there's the broken hatch hinges , roof leaks , cracked lower control arms . Tin can junk .
I have the BMW 45E as well, it’s amazing! The new 50E appears to be even better. Different price point I know, but put up against these cars it would be far superior so definitely belongs in the line up. I bought mine used for about what the top of the line Lexus Hybred costs.
If you have problems even when under warranty, KIA will just make a dozen excuses for why the problem is your fault! (like your brand new battery GOING DEAD in 3 days without being driven!)
@@jasono2139 that's unbelievable. Brand new battery dying needs replacement, no questions should be asked. The reasons don't even matter . Very poor customer service there .
@@moezpadani8088 yup... I was told it was my fault for letting it SIT FOR TOO LONG!! 3 WHOLE DAYS!! THEN it was "oh, well... If it's going to sit for a while, you should use this switch under your dash to disconnect power to most of your fuses... tried it... Same thing! I had an 15 year old Buick in grad school that I'd let sit for WEEKS and it never failed to start.
Nothing here comes close to being practical for rural use. I need an SUV with 4wheel drive that has an electric range of around 200km (trip to town and back) then a gas engine for longer trips. Ideally this would be like the old BMW that had a 2 stroke charger in the back as a 'range extender' 50hp would be plenty as the gas engine is only a charger with the electric side providing the performance.
I have the Rav4 Prime 2023 and this vehicle is a beast!!! Super Fast the only thing that they need to upgrade is the battery. It's too small, 40 miles per charge (in sport mode) will drain in a blink on an eye. But in general the car is an A+.
Of course I would like more range, but I have been pleasantly surprised by my Pacifica's 30-ish miles EV range combined with a level 2 charger. I've driven ~60% of my 109,000 miles on electricity, and I live in a low-density suburban - almost rural - area in Florida (>25 minutes to any Target or Walmart). Being able to charge fully every time you come home (hence need for level 2 charger), means that 30 miles of every trip you take are electric. As long as most of your trips are 60 miles or less, you are halfway to an EV with a relatively small battery and you still have the gas backup. I like PHEVs as a bridge to a full EV future.
@@CJ-gs2uf I've had similar results with my family's Pacifica, although it rarely gets more than 20 miles on the battery until spring/summer/fall due to cold weather. Most of our trips are less than 30 miles and about 50% to 60% have been solely on the battery.
Ford does NOT use Toyota's hybrid drive train. Yes, Ford and Toyota designs are similar, and they cross-licensed their designs to avoid any patent infringement litigation. Ford's planetary gear transaxle was developed in house. Please stop perpetuating this fallacy.
Why don’t you talk about the heat pumps ? That’s the critical differentiator especially for people living in cold weather. You should provide some technical info.
Great video! I would like to mention that i believe the outlander will beat the rav4 based on the numbers coming out of korea and australia is seems to get 80km ev range and maybe 5.5l/100km
The problem with the Outlander is that Mitsubishi has only 350 dealerships in the US, making them by far the smallest Asia-based car company. The closest dealer to where I live is 200 miles away. The Outlander PHEV has a lot going for it, and if they had a dealership in my city, I'd maybe consider one, but Toyota, Nissan, Kia, Hyundai, and Honda each have like 20 dealerships for every One Mitsubishi dealership, and that's just not a comfortable thought when you start to consider "how would I get this car fixed if it broke down on a long road trip?"
@@laura-ann.0726 I can only tell you that my 2014 Outlander PHEV has had exactly one issue from new. The cruise control switch needed replacing under warranty. Still I understand your reticence. In Australia we have franchises that do more than one brand eg The Mitsubish dealership is also a Toyota dealership. The one across the road does MG, Suzuki and Hyundai. Don't sell enough cars to survive on a single brand.
@@mondotv4216 - Lots of dealerships here in the States do this too, especially in smaller towns. Like combination Ford/Volvo, or Kia/Hyundai. Auto Malls are a big thing here, too, where 10 or more dealerships all co-exist together on a single large parcel of land. Ford, Chevrolet, GM Truck, Toyota, Nissan, Volkswagen, Kia, Hyundai, Dodge/Chrysler, and Jeep all have lots in a mall about 10 km south of where I live (in Elk Grove, California). They're owned by 5 or 6 different people, but this is only one of three such auto malls in the Sacramento Metro area, and it's the smallest of the three. Besides these three malls, there are several other independent Ford, Toyota, Chevy, Nissan, and Mercedes-Benz, Audi, and BMW dealerships scattered around town that aren't located in multi-dealer malls. There's 2.5 million population in the 5-County Sacramento Metro Area, and probably at least 50 car dealerships total. But no Mitsubishi dealership closer than the San Francisco Bay Area, southwest of me about 250 miles (400 km) round-trip.
@@laura-ann.0726 I agree with you. I was quite interested in the Outlander but the closest Mitsubishi dealer is an hour and a half drive away. If I needed to get something fixed that would be a big problem.
If you live in a cold climate, then a heat pump is a real good idea, I know the RAV4 has one. If you buy, say a Tuscon which I believe does not have a heat pump, then you will find the gas engine is cutting in a lot more and negates the whole purpose of having a PHEV & you'd be better off with a standard hybrid (we drive a Tucson Blue). I think this was a glaring omission in what was otherwise, a good presentation.
Ford hybrid technology was NOT borrowed from Toyota, they were both working on the same approach and Toyota patented first. Ford traded some of their diesel patents with Toyota so they could use the system that they, Ford, had developed independently of Toyota.
Hi Shari, I follow your youtube page for a while and I really like your videos. Can you also make a video on 5 seater SUVs which are good in rear seat space. One of the challenge with Lexus RX or Audi Q5 is that the rear seat doesnt have much room and looks tight. Any recommendations would really help. Thanks Srini
Imo more info such as the height for driver view also wading depth, ppl like me simply prefer higher view point as nowadays with too much tall transport on the road as well as annoying led light. Wading depth info help determine safety since floods is getting more & more common lol.
PHEVs are a terrible idea. The inconvenience of finding a free charger and then having to move it after it is done charging at home and at work seems like the stupidest idea I have ever heard of. They should be giving tax breaks on regular hybrids. Cali infrastructure cant even handle powering the current infrastructure without black outs and fires every year. So clogging the chargers for 35 miles when fully electric cards need the chargers makes no sense.
I need some suggestions to buy or choose hybrid SUV - which one is better? Honda CRV or KIA Sportage or Hyundai Tucson or any other suggestions please? I am looking for reliability and less maintenance
