ARVIN while it’s definitely expensive (if I remember correctly it’s around $13 million an episode), it’s definitely not the “most expensive tv show in the history of mankind”.
ARVIN a two minute Google search can show you the fact that The Pacific cost $20 million an episode. Also, ER was around $13 million an episode as well (which is how much The Crown is).
I'm sensing a lot of blame (or credit) being placed on Gordonstoun's role in shaping how Charles became. That is only one piece of the puzzle. Looking at Dr. Hahn and that school's pedagogy, a lot is placed on self-discovery, outdoor activities, and personal responsibility for your actions. This seemed to have worked wonders for Prince Philip and positively developing the man he grew up to be. But you have to keep in mind that Prince Philip was never set to become a king in his lifetime. Prince Charles had a completely different temperament than most heirs apparent. The rigor of Gordonstoun may have instilled in him some great qualities, but Charles has also had to deal with the pressures of living up to the ideal of being a king-in-waiting. He couldn't express views (like sympathy for Wales) without getting admonished by the family. He couldn't marry his first choice at the time. I AM NOT excusing his treatment of Princess Diana. I'm just saying blaming all of Charles' faults on Gordonstoun is a stretch. Granted, you have to wonder how much differently he would have turned out going to Eton College, his first choice school.
We're getting closer to seeing Diana. Season 3 will show Camilla Parker Bowles when she and Charles were dating and at the end of season 3 will be Diana the People's Princess' grand entrance.
The idea was for the present cast to only be on screen for two seasons and then switch. If Olivia Coleman portrays Elizabeth for seasons 3-4, then another actress would portray her older self most likely for seasons 5-6.
This show is so good, so good. The attention to detail, the talented actors and actresses, and the history lessons. All at the same time giving us another perspective on historic events.
My favorite line, from the character Tommy Lascelles: "your sister's fiancé is conducting three affairs... and those are just the natural ones." Imagine your next job interview and you find yourself face to face with Lascelles; he might say, " This resume says you left Best Buy in 2003 on mutual good terms, but that wasn't the case. There was the slushee incident in the break room that forced your resignation. This post may sound inviting, but you're not going to take it."
Hahahahahaha!!! The Tommy Lascelles character cracks me up! He's like some mysterious know-it-all with a penchant for drama, like a "cleaner" in a gangster movie. It's probably true, too. :-)
I'm not 100% certain about the new casting. I realize they have to fast forward to make things work. Makeup can only do so much. However, no matter how wonderful the talents of the new cast, no actor will ever be able to hold a candle to Matt Smith's ass.
@@miguelcarlobarreda430 the Winston Churchill actor is none other than John Lithgow, of Twilight Zone the Movie, Big Foot and the Henderson's, Santa Clause the Movie and Third Rock from the Sun fame. If you grew up in the '80s and '90s you'll surely know him.
@@jamesmason8436 Because season 3 covers 13 years. The Queen and Prince Phillip were in the 40s and early 50s during season 3. So by the middle of the season the previous actors would be too young to play their counterpart roles. And it would be weird to change them midseason. Olivia Colman and Tobias Menzies were 45 at the time. So they're perfect for the roles, age-wise.
Eton College is one of the most prestigious colleges in the entire UK, hosting multiple UK PMs over the centuries while being very popular among the aristocracy.
Diana might have had some say about that - at least in William’s case. What the Crown doesn’t mention is Andrew and Edward also went to Gourdenston (however it’s spelled). At the time Princess Anne was in school they didn’t accept females but she sent both of her children there. Charles might have been bullied wherever he went. Not only was he a Prince and the heir to the throne, he was something of a dreamer and thanks to his grandmother (definitely not his parents) spoiled. Facts are facts- probably every child that ever went to any school has at least one person that bullied them and made their life hell.
I love that the video warns for spoilers and then starts of with a famous historical event, guys it’s all already happened, there’s no such thing as spoilers!
Obviously, the show may have taken creative license. But I thought the "Complicated" ones were also portrayed as complicated in the series. Take Phillip's infidelity. I interpreted it as extremely ambiguous. While I'll admit the picture is weird, I noticed it never actually showed any real inappropriate behaviour on Phillip's part, and no character outright confirms or denies it. The same applies to the Duke of Windsor's Nazi sympathies. Also, "Vergangenheit" may mean "past" in German, but not really "history". "Geschichte" is a more accurate translation for "history".
When I was in school in the 1960s, it was widely accepted that Prince Philip was unfaithful in the 1950s. However, the fact that no substantial evidence has come forth in over sixty years may lead to his innocence.
Another point they got wrong (but i still looove The Crown)... Kennedy died 3 1/2 month before the birth of Prince Edward ... but you dont see any signs of pregancy she sets the court on morning. On the other hand the Profumo affair was a few weeks earlier ... and you see a pregnant Queen in that part.
Love your bizarre scale: _Mostly Right - Not exactly Right - Half-Right - It's complicated..._ 😂👌 Eitherway, this was interesting, thanks for uploading!
i just finished this show in two days.. its actually amazing. the cast is brilliant, the story (lol i know most of it is fact) is incredible, its just pulled off so well and they make it so interesting, i fell in love. im so sad there will be a different cast next season, claire and matt are fabulous, i dont know how im gonna cope with new people. WHY CANT THEY JUST PUT MAKEUP ON THEM UGHH
Billy Graham was a great friend of QE2. He and his wife Ruth actually stayed at one of her residences and spoke at her local church whenever when they were in England. Which was several times not just in the late 50s and early 60s.
I usually care a great deal about how historically accurate a show based on historic events is. The Crown does a great job with this in the format, but even if it weren't that accurate I wouldn't care. Why? Because Prince Philip being petty is the best thing about this show.
@@sammiepittman3130 England is England. Britain includes Scotland and Ireland. The UK are all the other colonized countries and territories which still have legal attachments to Britain.
@@sammiepittman3130 England is a constituent state within the United Kingdom. The other three are Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland. And then there's all of the UK' Overseas Territories. It would be roughly equivalent to calling America "Texas".
@@cr293737 Scotland wasn't colonised lol. It was a Scottish King who united the crowns and Scotland whom sought Union with England, not the other way round. Wales and Ireland were colonised by the Norman's, just like England before them.
@@cr293737 Britain and England are interchangeable since England is part of Britain and makes up 90% of the population of the island. Wales and Scotland are also interchangeable with Britain since both belong to the island of Britain. It's geography rather than poltical. Northern Ireland isn't since it isn't part of Britain. The poltical entity is known as the United Kingdom of Britain and Northern Ireland (and once the whole of Ireland).
Hi there - I notice you keep referring to us as 'England' but we are Britain or the UK. You're missing out Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland 😉 It's like me referring to the US as California/ New York and ignoring the rest!
The show is fantastic, we catch ourselves (my wife and I) fact checking items throughout the show, and 90 percent of the time confirming things. The only negative i had, was the actors chosen to play the Kennedy's. They didn't even come close to looking like them at all.
My Son was part of the crew for S2 and the details on set were, I agree, pretty amazing, but I would say that wouldn't I? Not 'cus his name's in the credits! but what a fabulous piece of work by all the crew & actors, I was captivated & cannot wait for S3 -
Did the narrator chick just say, "the SWEZ crisis"? I know she's young but she's seriously never heard of the Suez Canal? I love how she mispronounces it with such confidence. This channel has a ton of subs, seriously, you can't be bothered to do a little research and make sure you're pronouncing things properly? The narrator is young but she's not a child. She should be familiar with the Suez Canal.
Hold on..just hold on..after I check out the cast it blew my mind! I didn't realize if it's Dexter and actress from my favorite show Quarry! LOL Thanks for the info btw.
I immediately recognized that it was the actor who played Dexter. He has a distinct face, the actress who played Jackie is prettier than the former FLOTUS herself!
I looooove the crown but as an Egyptian the most annoying thing is the actor who played Naser!!! God his accent is not Egyptian at all!! They should have hired Egyptian actor.. He talks so weirdly so not like abdel naser
You should hear people speak Dutch in some of the movies / series out there... It seems like some movies/series don't even do their research and just put some German accent on a to Dutch Google translated dialog.
I think that's the issue with all the movies where the actors play foreign. They almost never get the accent right. This takes a lot of time and I guess producers/directors just don't bother with this.
I think the most infuriating "creative" half-truth was implying that Prince Philip was in any way responsible for his sister's death. She was going to fly to her brother-in-law's wedding regardless of anything. Prince Philip was at school and wasn't going to be there any way. It must have been a shock to him to find out about his sister's death, along with her entire family and comes as bit cruel not only to blame him for it, but also to make up a scene where he confronted by his father about it.
Sara Araújo Marques I took the show's tskeway being that his father blamed him (his father already being established as "eh" at best) but that no one not grieving would take it that way. A child dealing with such a loss might surely blame themselves and those impressions in childhood (especially the sort of childhood Prince Phillip had) can weigh on an adult. At least, that's how I took it.
The show was not implying in any way that Phillip was actually to blame for his sister’s death. The show simply showed that Phillip may have put some blame onto himself due to grief.
Ariana, did you watch Season 2 yet? There is a scene at Philip's sister's funeral where his father explicitly blames him for causing his sister's death.
Anyone who accepts a movie or TV series as a reliable, accurate portrayal of history is naïve, intellectually lazy, or at worst, feeble-minded. "The Crown" is an exceptionally enjoyable dramatic series based on history, but it is NOT a documentary.
I think it's because the actor playing JFK didn't capture him very well and the one playing Jackie was pretty bad. In real life both had charisma but it never came through in The Crown. Very good series otherwise.
So the Prime Minister's wife really had a side dude??? And he not only knew about it, but supported it? WOW!!!! Definitely going to research that.. If you don't pay attention to the episode you almost miss what she said... Fascinating.
No wonder they sing “God save the Queen”. Queen Elizabeth has had a very challenging reign, the show portrays her as being maneuvered most of the time. I hope she had not felt that way. But if she was manipulated so often, no wonder she expected Charles and Diana to do what they did later on... protocol, always protocol. I still believe Diana did what she had to and helped the monarchy come into modern times. One thing I will say, prince Phillip is a horse’s patoot! I didn’t like his character in “theQueen” either. Spoilt snot nose. Queen Elizabeth is truly a survivor and I say God bless her.
Well, I'm not British or even in the Commonwealth, but I can tell you from an outsider's viewpoint that the late Diana, Princess of Wales did about as much damage to the monarchy as the much maligned Wallis, Duchess of Windsor did in her day. It is yet to be seen whether Prince Charles will get to be king. There are so many devotees of the late PoW that it is an iffy matter. Some people seem to be incapable of forgiving him because of her statement (and this is a paraphrase) "there were three in the marriage and it was overcrowded". Time will tell if the late Diana, Princess of Wales, brought the monarchy "into modern times" or if she actually hastened its demise.
I certainly hope that their portrayal of Philip is not entirely accurate because I can't stand his character, especially in the last episode of Season 2.
not to take anything away from Claire Foy, who did a marvelous job....but by the 2nd episode of the 3rd season, I have already forgotten her...that's how good Olivia Colman is.....
An error they missed: in DEAR MRS, KENNEDY, Elizabeth is seen coming into the room to hear news of the JFK assassination in daylight. It was late November, and 12:30 in Dallas, therefore it 18:30 in London (it would have been dark). More, it seems as if a lot of time passed between the Queen learning of the shooting, and she is next scene in her night clothes learning of his death. In fact, JFK was dead by 19:30 London time, and it seems unlikely that she would already be in her jim-jams. More, it shows JFK drinking hard liquor. JFK has a terrible stomach for almost his entire life; while he did drink a bit, and mixed drinks, he was hardly a drinker of bourbon or scotch or whiskey. (In fact, neither JFK nor RFK were drinkers. Teddy, however, made up for both of them.)
I watched all four seasons so far and agree with Phillip at the end of season 4 when he says to Lady Diana that we are all outsiders looking in except for the one. 👍
The one who really comes off bad in The Crown is the Queen Mother. Petty, snobbish and anti-democratic. In the Altrincham episode, she says a line that bad mouths the Magna Carta -- considered one of the key documents in the history of Anglo-Saxon political history and democracy.
She was a monarch OF COURSE she would be “anti-democratic” when democratic ideas have been what has stripped the power from the British monarchy. Seeing as she’s part of that family, we see her perspective rather than the one we’re used to
The Queen mother was kind of a bitch, she spent a lot of money on parties and when she died she had still 8 Million dollars in debt, even with the Queen paying her extra bills
In the scene, she called Phillip's mother a "hun nun." She showed up to the wedding as a nun, and she was of German origin. In WWI, the Germans were called Huns by the British. (The scene is ironic. Because Queen Mary, to whom the Queen Mother was speaking, was herself German, and in real life spoke with a thick German accent.)
Elizabeth II isn't just Queen of England, she's the Queen of the entire United Kingdom and many commonwealth nations. Americans have got a lot to learn.
I don't think JFK was quite as gauche as portrayed. He was educated at Choate and Harvard College. His father was US Ambassador to the Court of St. James from 1938-1940 so he was no stranger to court life. And his sister was the Marquess of Hartlington. He may not have been quite as sycophantic and obsequious as the British courtiers may have liked, but he was the President of the United States, the head of state, and very much the equal of the Queen.
I have to laugh when I hear a 'no spoilers' warning on a historical drama. I mean.... it would totally ruin the season for me if I found out whether or not the UK and France was able to retain sovereignty over the Suez Canal. Now don't spoil this for me, anyone!!!!! Plus I'm just DYING to find out if Princess Margaret's marriage to Tony is a success! I have a good feeling about it!!!! PS: Did anyone else notice how Christine Keeler died like the beginning of December.... like a few days before I saw the final episode. I'm kinda hoping she was able to see herself portrayed on screen one last time before she died :-)
I liked Season 2 overall, but I hated the depiction of the Kennedys as a couple of uncouth hillbillies, so dazzled by the Queen that they can't even get her and her husband's titles straight. "Duh, howdy, your Queenness. How's tricks, Phil old boy?"
Dr. Livingstone I. Presume I know. JFK’s father was the Ambassador to the Court of St. James. JFK spent a lot of time in London and would be well-versed in Royal protocol and titles. As well, Jackie was sent to cover the coronation by the Washington Times Herald. Being educated at the Sorbonne and a graduate of Miss Porter’s Finishing School, she would have Royal titles and society etiquette in her back pocket. Shame The Crown got this so wrong.
I believe that the Duke of Windsor had a pretty fair idea of what Hitler was up to. If he had stayed King, he would have handed Great Britain to Hitler on a silver tray.
I'm searching for a comment saying Nkurumah's accent was not authenticity Ghanaian... but I think they got his dressing right... I'm Kenyan and when we learnt about him I'm school I remember I picture of him in the African dress
Not everybody is familiar with the UK royal especially younger viewers ( less than 40) from outside the UK & so to them the crown series is just another netflix show. If a person is new to this show - yes there are spoilers :)
Tbh as a Brit and Royalist I was quite offended by the amount of misinformation throughout all 3 seasons, so far. At times I found it downright upsetting. Especially the scene where our Queen makes an awfully insensitive speech to auto workers at a Jaguar Factory in ‘56. It simply never happened and there is no way our Queen would exercise such a degree of misjudgement. Brilliant show, very entertaining and I will watch every season still to be released, however there should be a disclaimer at the beginning which states about 50% of the show is either guess work or put there for dramatic effect. I did like the episode in season 3 about the Aberfan mining disaster in Wales. It was very accurate and done sensitively, with actual relatives of victims and survivors included in the production and even offered counselling after production.
Watching this I think I can understand why Philip acts like as he does.I still don't get why King Edward (David) could NOT marry Wallace.If Henry 8 could get away with divorce , beheadings,and had 6 wives. This was changed in the 1700;s. Perhaps Elizabeth 2 could have re-written the act and encouraged Parliament with it's stuffy rules and regs, could have been brought up to date.After all three of her four children divorced and Camilla will one day be Queen, as Wallace would have been.What is the difference ? I think they changed no act so why did Charles get away with it?? It most definitely a horrible existence. They Reign in name only, they do NOT rule.Elizabeth 2 was put in so many predicaments, a lesser woman may have walked away. BUT here is to your Queen and May God Bless her, she didn't stand a chance. King Edward (David) would not have been a good King. He was on Hitler's side which would have been disastrous for the British, as they would have had the Communists running Britain, instantly analianating America and they needed us. George was the Best King, at the time for the job. The Queen has come a long way !!!!
Do some research MsMojo billy Graham’s visit to GLASGOW SCOTLAND in 1961 and also MANCHESTER in 1961 also do some real research this alone would have got the establishments attention
The Parker divorce was great. It's amazing how other people's lives can impact yours. The whole thing with Jackie Kennedy was fun as well. Reminds me how petty women can be.
Great show. But Ms Mojo gets some things wrong. Prince Philip did cheat, many times, as the Royal family predicted he would, that’s why they attempted to break up the couple (with the tour), because they thought he was too worldly & unstable for the innocent Elizabeth. Anthony Armstrong Jones was definitely sexually involved with both of the Fry’s, he has a daughter from that relationship who has taken a genetic test and has given many interviews. Don’t know about Lord Altrincham. Prince Charles himself said that Gordonston was a nightmare and since he didn’t send his own kids there, that’s proof that he didn’t think much of their methods. President Kennedy was definitely on a cocktail of drugs and had been known to drug women (read the memoir of his former intern, it’s disturbing and enlightening). He had Addison’s disease and was put on hormonal therapy, testosterone, which also revved up his libido. Jackie Kennedy did make some remarks about the Royals and their dilapidated palace but, as far as I know, she never apologized for that. She was a very forward thinking modern woman and found England to be backward, stuck in outdated tradition and generally stale, musty & pathetic. The duke & Duchess of Windsor did visit Nazi Germany and hung out with Hitler, but not because they were Nazi sympathazers, but because they were so very very stupid and so full of themselves and Hitler gave them attention & recognition, which they so desperately craved. And since we’re going back to Philip’s infidelity, yes he cheated many times but the palace definitely denies it ever happened. I mean, what did you expect them to do?
